jcb1bea,
Can you tell me more about what used to be you freezing problem? I have a sound blaster live and JKII crashes!
Everything locked up when I played online. Game would last about 1 minute before that sound loop would happen then I would have to hit the reset button.
Hmm.... I may have to get a new soundcard, graphics card, or motherboard. or a combo or all of the above :(
Here is what I have. But I do still get freezing every now and then. But nothing like before.
Windows Xp Pro
AMD Athlon 1.2/Dragon Orb 3 Fan (7000rpm)
CPU Temperature Average 107F
1 Gig Ram PC-133
ATI Radeon 7000 64DDR
Maxtor Hard Drive 20 gig 7200 (Running at ATA 100)
Ultra ATA133 Round IDE Cables
Ensoniq Pci Sound Card
Internet: Cox Cable
OK, after many months, I have made some progress, but not to completion (the game still freezes now and again.)
I bought a new Power Supply and tried it out several weeks ago. The game crashed again, so I put it away.
I got to thinking this weekend that it was power related, so I started pulling the cable out of some of my components. First the second HD, then the CDRW. Then I looked into my Device Manager to see that one of my two NICs (I use Internet connection sharing) was using the same IRQ as the GeForce 2Ti.
So I disabled both NICs too.
I then loaded up JKII and played for over an hour with no crashes!!!
Great, I thought. So I started powering up some devices - crash!
Time to get the trusty 300W P/S again (it doesn't fit in my Micro ATX case BTW! :)
Another long session later, I'm thinking "problem solved".
However, as we all know by now, this problem isn't a simple one.
A couple of tips -
If your game crashes at startup (or often), delete the JK2 config.cfg file before loading the game. (This will mean you have to apply your preferences again. Make as few changes as possible in the config menu - there are suspicions that this can cause instability in the game.)
Look for IRQ conflicts in your hardware settings.
Don't Quicksave/quickload - go through the save and load menus.
Keep well clear of EAX sound!
OK, to put it this way most people have MP crashes, right? well, The MP program is not written very well. Therefore, a combonation of drivers(Sound, Graphics and motherboard) do not work right together on some programs. I have one of the combos that makes some programs freeze. those programs are JKII, Ski resort tycoon and when I play games online (especially 3d ones) they crash, too. If someone asks me, I will go more into detail
My problem is somewhat different, I have freezes and soundloops. Mine are completely random. Anywhere from 5 minutes to 2 hours. The difference in mine though, is that after I started having jk2 freezing problems, the computer started doing that even when I'm not in jk2. not as frequent but still...
I have 2 computers, I use this one more. the other one is my dad's and that's the one I play jk2 on. (this one doesn't have a 3d accelerator) anyway, I know I have a pentium 3 processer and windows 98 plus.
I think my problem will be fixed by putting in a sound blaster audigy, or a different graphics card!
If this is a sound card issue can I get a few ideas on the best sound to get. Thanks
Windows Xp Pro
AMD Athlon 1.4 Thunderbird/Dragon Orb 3 Fan (7000rpm)
CPU Temperature Average 110F
1 Gig Ram PC-133
ATI Radeon 7000 64DDR
Abit KT7A-RAID Motherboard
Maxtor Hard Drive 20 gig 7200 (Running at ATA 100)
Ultra ATA133 Round IDE Cables
Ensoniq Pci Sound Card (Standard 20 dollar card)
Internet: Cox Cable
So I've been frustrated for some time now about all the problems I've been having with JKII and lock-ups.
After wading through reams of info on various forums, talking to friends etc., I got to thinking that my video card was sucking too much power through the AGP slot, causing it to crash (despite having a 300W supply feeding plenty of juice to the PC). The card has an onboard fan. In a thought which seemed to defy logic, I wondered if disconnecting the fan would reduce the power consumption on the card.
So sure enough, in a last ditch attempt of desperation, I UNPLUGGED THE FAN!
:eek:
To my amazement I had a three hour game playing session on several games (especially Q3-based games) with no crashes!!!
:lsduel:
Many people think their cards overheat, but in my case the cooling device was causing an unwanted power surge! I am a little worried that my card may be getting a bit hot, but I'm sure that my PIII 600 isn't taxing it too much.
I also tried to connect the fan to a different power lead by buying an adapter for the power lead, but this only caused the system to crash again. I am going to contact the manufacturer to find out if the card (or at least the fan) is somehow faulty.
I don't know how many of you are having similar power and/or interference problems like mine, but it's definitely one to try.
Yahoo - I'm playing JKII again!!
:rddance:
well , I still have freezes ---not just with jK2 but other 3d games as well. I Just patched windows xp with the new service pack (SP1) and seems like the problem has gotten worse!
I sure would love to know what the solution is..Seems to me its a combination of Windows Xp, nvidia video card, and a sound card issue..Any one have a solution? Please??/lol
its not your nvidia video card, exact same thing with my matrox G400.
P4 1.8
512DDR
Sound Blaster Live
Win XP
Maybe it’s the CPU getting too hot. I did notice that my CPU runs a lot hotter while I’m playing JKII. I just bought a water cooler system for my CPU. It dropped from 130 degrees to 85. Played last night and no freeze ups.
Windows Xp Pro
AMD Athlon 1.4 Thunderbird/Senfu Sf-WR111 II Water Cooler
CPU Temperature Average 107F
1 Gig Ram PC-133
ATI Radeon 7000 64DDR
Abit KT7A-RAID Motherboard
Maxtor Hard Drive 20 gig 7200 (Running at ATA 100)
Ultra ATA133 Round IDE Cables
Ensoniq Pci Sound Card (Standard 20 dollar card)
Internet: Cox Cable
My Homepage (
http://www.michaelmccannjr.com)
I'm getting the freezing/looping problem as well, but only when I try to start a server(just seconds after it finishes loading). I was getting the problem after joining a server, but I turned the option for "wait until death to update" thingy to off, and now I can play online without problems.
This thread was started in March, and although I haven't read every single post, I have read quite a few, and nothing has worked for me as of yet besides the "wait until death" thing. I have all the latest drivers for my hardware as well. It's too bad I can't start up a server. SP on my machine kicks major ass, but I've finished the game.
wow its been awhile since ive posted in this part of the forums. im still getting frezzes all the time. it stopped for awhile though but now its back. i d/l the unreal2k3 demo and it frezzes in the first 2 minutes:( im going to get a new video card soon though. atleast i hope
unreal tournament 2003 demo work fine on my g400 pc, and jk2 freezes in multiplayer
Wow this thread is still around? I haven't played JKII in the longest time, but I'm starting to think it's my computer because other stuff freezes and crashes for me from time to time. Do we all just have messed up computers or something? :(
alright, im getting really ******* angry here.
i just reinstalled jkII cause i heard they finally trashed 1.3 (finally:() and fixed some of the MP probs.
so i reinstall the game (ive formatted since than) and about a minute after entering an MP server with my own bots to practice and check out the new version, i get the freeze w/ sound loop.
i run an IRC server and an FTP server off this box, and fold, while playing 4 hour + sessions of bf1942 and various assorted games. this system is stability tested harcore and has proven itself various times to be stable. i havent had a problem with it in almost 6 months.
now after 1 min of starting jkII i get this freeze. so i cold reboot it, and try again with every process shut off, and no other proggies at all running. BOOM it just finished loading the map and i got the freeze w/sound loop. i have since than tried most of the attempted fixes in this thread to no avail. 15 pages and no word from lucasarts/raven? wtf is this?
specs:
400w Antec truepower PSU
XP 1600+ @1.68ghz
Abit KX7-333
512mb Crucial pc2100
gf3 TI200@+TI500 speeds w/WHQL 30.82 det's
SB Audigy with a clean install of the newest drivers and none of the CD stuffs
120gb WD 8mb cache/60gb Maxtor D740X
Leadtek TV tuner
Intel pro 10/100 NIC
STILL LOCKS AT STOCK SPEEDS!!
thats all that seems relavent. system is modded and has lots and lots of well balanced cooling on the CPU, memory, and video card, and runs every other game, OGL and d3d just fine.
if i dont get a response for how to fix this in a few days ill email raven (or Lucasarts) and tell them i want a refund, end of story
TIA for anyone that can help
is this were some problem in another proggie i would isolate it to be a software error or a hardware error, than pinpoint the software causing it. the system logs show no record of an error with anything prior to the crash, and im totally unable to reproduce it with any other program or game. im not going to change my vid drivers, they are WHQL, and if the authors of the game cant get it to work with the official drivers, than it shouldnt be on the shelves.
its not your video card, mine soundloop crashes and i use a matrox g400
ok, i uninstalled and reinstalled the drivers, and it still didnt work, it would freeze with sound loop as soon as it started.
so i disabled EAX.....
and just played an hour online:)
no probs with EAX disabled. my audigy has the newest drivers.
how many people with the problems have a creative sound card?
i have problems when it freezes every time it loads a second map ot loads the first one ok but when it gets to the second map it freezes during loading of the second map even when the progress bar is completed it just wont activate the next map i have installed new drivers and put on DX 8.1 Again to try to make it work but to no avail i have limited games to play now the only way i can get to the next level is if i restart the computer and type the map name into the console and that is annoying
DISABLE EAX i did and it fixed the freezing for me in both SP and MP modes:)
WinXP home
Gf3 with 30.82 (original)
AMD Athlon 1.4
SB Audigy
512ddr
Originally posted by AticXes
DISABLE EAX i did and it fixed the freezing for me in both SP and MP modes:)
nope didnt work still does that for some weird reason never happened to me before (i got this game on day of release and it worked perfectly then)
so what else could it be?
I've owned JKii ever since release and never had a problem.
My system consisted of the following:
Abit KT7A (ver1.3) - Latest BIOS
1.8GHz XP
Leadtek GeForce 3 - used 23.11, 28.32, 29.42 & 30.82 (all OK)
SB Live (value) - Latest drivers
1GB SDRAM
Windows XP (Prof) - all relevant updates except SP1
JKii - patched to 1.04
I managed to complete the game several times on various difficulty settings. In fact, my 3yr old son loves to come home from nursery and have a blast on MP (honestly). He's not very good, but @ 3yrs, I don't think you guys will need to worry quite yet!
Recently upgraded to GF4 Ti46 and installed 40.71 (beta) and still no problems.
Monday I bought a SB Audigy to add a little more depth to my gaming experience. Removed SB live drivers and rebooted. Installed new Audigy card and installed latest drivers from SB's website. So far so good. Changed the sound options to enable EAX support and away we go!!!
!!!DS was desperate to have a go, wanted to try out his latest trick (crouching - LOL)
NOW WE HIT A SLIGHT PROBLEM – FREEZING WITH SOUND LOOP
hmm - Logic dictates that the last thing changed must be causing the problem. Disabled EAX and away we go - NO FREEZING and one very happy son.
Strange thing is - Single player doesn't suffer with the same fault. I'm no expert on games so I can't figure out why MP freezes while SP doesn't. I'll leave that up to you guys. But at least you've got another story to add to this ever-increasing thread
Hope it helps
I finally got this game, wanted for a while but never had the moeny to spare.
Great game, but Multiplayer, I found, would freeze every ten minuites. Finally found this thread and the EAX tip worked, thanks a lot for telling me. ::Misses the sound, but enjoys the game enough not to care::
Plus this thread needs a bump, should be a sticky if you ask me.
Holy f***!
This thread is still going? :D
I was the first one to post the EAX fix, w00t :D
the EAX disable fix DOES NOT work for me. Why wont they fix this game ?!?! bloody tip rats .
ok, everyone still having this problem, try this.
delete the jk2mpconfig.cfg from your base directory. then try it. i havn't had a freeze yet.
( jk2mpconfig.cfg is for MP, delete the jk2config.cfg file if u have problems with SP )
AHHGHH forget that, i still have the sound loop error. :mad:
this bites.
i have tried:
- deleteing the jk2mpconfig.cfg file
- installing the original divers that came with my sound card (SB Live)
- disabling EAX
- reinstalling
- disabling my sound card and using onboard sound
nothing works, sometimes the game just exits for no reason, and now i get screen corruption occasionally as well, but it's usually the Sound Loop.
every other game works flawlessly, my computer runs purrrfectly (for once in my life), and this game blows out every time.
what garbage.
It seems there may be more than one cause to the looping problem. After several months of frustration and trying every suggestion on this thread, here's what finally fixed it for me.
New power supply for my PC.
It seems that my cheap power supply that came with my cheap case (I had built my own computer) wasn't up to the job even though it was rated at 300W. The last 3 games I got had similar problems to Jedi II; hangups, usually with sound looping. I began to suspect power supply problems when troubleshooting the same looping issue with Return to Castle Wolfenstein. I bought a 430W Antec power supply, and every game I was having trouble with now works flawlessly, including Jedi II.
Worked for me, YMMV.
Chris
Hmm. I have the latest dets, latest DirectX. Everything's updated. Windows 2000 SP 3. No updates left at WindowsUpdate. Bios is up2date.
The game even worked before..
Now it locks up, and the sound loops.
When JK2 starts up, it does the Lock'n'Loop during the intro movie. Pressing Escape or starting in Safe-Mode skips that. Then, when starting a new game it's back. LnL. After skipping THAT, the 'in-game' intro of Kyle and Jan works fine.. Until Mon-Motha appears.
The game works fine from that point, until I try to load the quicksave (which it doesnt, because of the LnL bug). Oh, it's also quite odd that it LnLs in the Load screen. It constantly LnLs when you turn off GL Extensions.
It's just.. weird.
I did all the 'fixes', and more. Nothing works. JKII is the only game that bugs, everything else just runs stable and all. EAX is turned off..
yep, this game was rushed. all i can hope for now is that they take the time to perfect a starwars game that is based during the OT and lets you play luke from ANH to ROTJ and lets you choose if you are good or evil.
the new starwars game from the E3 video looks FAB.
damnit, i was just about to goto bed and i read this...now ima have to install the damn game and test it out...
ok, this is it, you know, if THIS doesent work i'm done, you hear me, DONE !
:mad:
it took about 20 minutes to freeze, which is quite a while for me.
so i suggest everyone does try this out. just because it didn't work for me doesnt mean it wont for you :)
my SP has always worked fine, its just MP
oh well, thanks for the info anyways, i want to know ALL the ways people have solved this problem.
keep up the good work.
:cool:
Glad I could help - hope you get it fixed forever ^_^
I bought a 430W Antec power supply, and every game I was having trouble with now works flawlessly
Excellent move! So few people understand the need for a powerful, quality power supply and for top-quality memory.
I know alot of people are suffering from problems related to the JK2 software but I'm sure there are just as many having problems due to the generic crap they have inside their case. A couple of guidelines from a part-time systems integrator:
- Memory - go to the Crucial web site, find your system or mainboard and buy the memory for it from Crucial. Don't buy generic or PNY memory or anything they sell at Best Buy or CompUSA.
- Power Supplies - just make your decision and life easy by buying an Antec power supply of AT LEAST 350W, preferably 400W.
Yes, there are much cheaper parts but you really need a quality PSU and memory. There are many other brands but if you're not an experienced system builder, then going with Crucial and Antec is most likely your best move.
Infinite sound loop freeze-ups can occur on any system playing any graphically intense 3d game. As such, it doesn't make sense to blame the "typical" sound loop problem on the game. The best solution I've found is to get a beefy, high-quality power supply.
I haven't been here in since God only knows how long but I pulled JK2 off my shelf as I just got a Radeon 8500LE to sort of replace my GF3 Ti 200. On this card, just as it did on the GF3, the game runs flawlessly. I just wish the damn guns would shoot straight!
I HAVE FIXED IT :) :) :) :)
all i had to do was upgrade to a GIG of RAM and purchase a brand new 80gig HDD. now ity runs fine....ecept i cant increase or decrease the brightness :confused: other than that i have solved my freezing problem, the biggest downside was the $340AU it cost for the upgrade.
(and no i didn't upgrade JUST to play JK2 my old hdd died)
I also freeze! BUT I found out when i freeze. Whenever someone besides me thrwos their saber and then i freezes right when the saber comes bask to them. when i do it nothing happens! it also happens when i dont see the saber being receved. oddly enough i also have the geforce audigy sound card and win xp
tried everything above didn't help me.. game runs normally for a while.. how long seems completely random, at times it starts continually freezing as soon as I start, and sometimes I can play like 20 mins before it begins.. wierdest thing is, once it starts, the freezing stops when I pull down the console, but when I put it up again it immediatelly starts freezing again.
What memory do you guys have assigned to JKII?
com_hunkmegs in the console.
I personally have 180MB for JKII, while I have 512MB system RAM.
figured out the game runs fine in windowed mode aswell :p oh well it'll do :)
"com_hunkmegs" is: "64" default: "64"
i have a GIG of RAM and it doesnt freeze
when i had 512 of RAM it DID freeze (i also had a different HDD but all else was the same)
are you suggesting that we can alter this number and thus prevent a freeze?
seta bot_nochat "1"
seta cg_noVoiceChats "1"
seta cg_noVoiceText "1"
I haven't had a freeze in botmatch since I started using these cvars. Add these to your autoexec.cfg.
*bump* for all the new kids
Make this thread longer? anyway i have 1 question for everyone who freezes, This is DO YOU FREEZE WHEN SOMEONE ELSE DOES A SABER THROW. the freezing on my comp happens right when the saber hits the hand and it doesnt freeze when i do saber throw. and if this happpens to all the freezing people then we might be able to figure someting out by knowing what causes it. Bub i dont know im just wondering!