In just one day of playing JA I've been kicked from 4 servers for "laming". Come on dude, we're in the middle of a duel and I do a butterfly, he practically jumps in front of it, puts his saber away and brings up the chatbox. There was no way to stop it and I killed him. The crybaby got his admin friend to kick me before I could even say sorry.
Dear Lord, in Episode 1 of star wars, did darth maul say "noob" as his last word when obiwan chopped him in two? Whenever I win a fair fight, most people whine and complain about me "cheating" and/or "laming".
Earlier I was playing on a server that belonged to the clan CT. I was fighting a CT member and I was winning, so he ran away and I heard the sound of a heal. I'm not a whiner so it didn't phase me much because it's just a game. Later in the duel, I landed a kata and cut his head off. He screamed LAMER before I could even say gf. Seriously, before I could even squeeze in two letters this guy typed in caps "LAMER". So I get into a fight with the entire CT clan, I duel them all one by one, winning almost all and only losing once due to lag. There these guys are throwing everything they got at me and I'm still winning. Whenever I beat one in a duel someone would try to attack me after and lame me as I said gf. I came back and slashed open his skull casing and his brain splattered all over the sand.
I was going to fight the guy that started with me to begin with in a duel (this was ffa). He said no duels just ffa duel, as if I didn't know he was going to heal when he was losing. Sad stuff, they call me a lamer, then they heal in duels, try to kill me while I say good fight, ect. Once they even tried to spawn a mutant rancor to kill me, but I escaped. Eventually they just kicked me because I was beating all their little "lackeys" they were sending off to fight me. 2v1 3v1 you name it they tried it on me to no avail.
Another time, I'm on some public dueling server with saber throw enabled. I'm kicking serious booty with my saber throw. I'm fighting a guy he does a backflip and I hit him in mid air with the saber killing him. "CHEATER" he screamed, "THROW SPAMMER" screamed his little clan buddy that was with him. I think the clan name was JOTR. Eventually I kept owning them, I won 30 consecutive duels. By now they were cursing and screaming and crying like my 3 year old cousin (well the screaming and crying part anyway). Every time I tried to say gf or bow before duel they tried to attack me, I still owned them. One guy even accused me of hacking. I mean, how hypocritical do you get? You call someone a lamer then proceed to attack them when they are defensless? So H0N0RZ only applies for you and not against your opponent right?
Well, sorry for the rant, but some of these players are just sad. I don't see how it's even humanly possible to whine that much. I also don't mean to brag about my skill either, but good God, stop the hypocrosy in honorz or don't use it at all. Some people are just sore losers it seems.
Of coruse the whining will never stop, jk2 has been around for a year and people are still whining as we speak.
As for the topic, im a Pro-Honorz :cool:
Right now someone is calling someone a hacker/cheater/lamer.
Wow you're right.
I don't really care... if someone wants to be anti-honor or pro-honor it doesn't matter.
I don't care. I only go to a few servers on a regular basis that suit my gaming wants. (Chop Shop servers and any and all Duel servers.)
bla bla get used to it, we hear this everyday
I think that someone needs to sticky a thread that's entitled, "Express Frustration Here!" or something, because a lot of people make this type of thread continuously. We know all about the "whiners"/"lamers"/"noobs"/"immature admins"/etc already. No need to clutter up the forum with new threads on a topic that will never be resolved.
I find it funny in an FFA, you kill someone and they scream LAME! I don't get it, its a frickin FFA for crying out loud!
No, it will never stop... ever..
I played JA on a public server about a week after it came out - there was whining.
Stopped playing the game shortly thereafter. I'm sick of the whining, so I've moved on to games that don't have honor codes.
Anti-"h0n0rz".
:rolleyes: Get used to it folks. Or join a clan whose server does not enforce that stuff. Either way It shan't leave us alone.
"I don't Care"
:)
People whine in any game. Go on a CS sever, people will complain about Camping, about hacking, about their gun not aiming right....some people just complain a lot. It's probabaly their age. I used to complain a lot when I was 8 too.
Your best bet is just to find a cool server where their is a core of people who basically play fair, for a good time and don't constant whinge. Then when any morons do log on and start winding everyone up, they'll just get kicked off.
Originally posted by Kengo
I used to complain a lot when I was 8 too. LOL. So true.
Sadly, judging by the fact that older games than JA still contain vast numbers of whiners, I say that whining will never completely go away from the JA community. ; p
That said, I think we should still spread our Gospel of anti-Honor and anti-Whining to as many new players as possible in order to safeguard the majority of the community from the damage caused by the minority of whiners and h0n0r d00dz.
Eventually though, in order to have a good time you have to host your own server and/or patronize servers that support your views against the irrational and silly honor codes while ignoring (and educating where possible) the zealots on the other side.
Lead by example...
Immaturity has a lot to do with it. Computer games have a large "mature" audience (the 18-35 set) but there will always be a significant population of children in games, and with the age difference comes immaturity. Likewise the anonymity of the internet leads to many people abusing it ("I can be a jerk because I can get away with it" philosophy). This can't be changed either, except again trying to teach people.
Kids especially succumb to peer pressure. They desire acceptance by their peers (except for the few "rebels" but even these tend to wish to find other "rebels" because there is strength in numbers, ie: cliques, gangs, clubs, clans...). So we should use this in a positive way to pressure new players and kids not to join the whiner factions but rather to embrace competative gameplay and cheerful gaming (rather than sore loser-ship).
The core reason for whining (other than negative peer pressure to become whiners) is that people have big egos and HATE to lose. Rather than taking the time and effort to learn and become better players they'd rather blame their lack of skill or the reason they didn't win that last game or got fragged on something else, like lag or the map or their team or claim their opponent was a cheater or a scripter a "lamer" (a meaninglessly vague term if there ever was one in gaming). Any excuse but to admit they themselves lack skill or that they goofed up and made a mistake.
These folks need to learn to lose (and win) gracefully. What I don't get is how they can have fun in a game if their goals are so narrow (win and if you don't win make up excuses and blame other people). How can they be happy? Isn't the goal of gaming to have fun?
Excuses like that don't fly in real sports, so why should they fly in games? "Laming" is too generic to account for anything and in most cases even if the so-called "lame" never happened (ie: the one kill they got on you while you were typing and the one kill they got on you while you had your saber down while you were standing there taunting) you would still have lost.
If say I beat somebody 20 to 2, I highly doubt the fact that I killed them twice while they were typing made any difference at all in the long run and yet these very people will use that as a reason to kick me from their game and claim that all of my kills shouldn't count.
Pro Honorz Here. Anyway I agree alot a people do whine or complain that your cheating when your not. Its just sad you can't even play a game anymore without being accused of cheating.
Eh, I am either or.
If I want to duel some people(such as friends and etc) I will dual in a FFA game, but when I want some good ol fashioned free for all, then I want a good ol fashioned free for all
Many need to learn...
FFA=FREE FOR ALL=KILL WHOEVER/HOWEVER
When the game is "live" everyone is a legitimate target.
Just keep killing the whiners while they are typing until they leave the server.
:D
Originally posted by Darth Kaan
When the game is "live" everyone is a legitimate target.
Just keep killing the whiners while they are typing until they leave the server.
:D
I know it's so funny. They threaten to "own" you sometimes but when they duel you and you own them, they just shut up OR call you a lamer and demand a rematch.
...Welcome to online gaming.
Originally posted by Blue_Lightsaber:
In just one day of playing JA I've been kicked from 4 servers for "laming". Come on dude, we're in the middle of a duel and I do a butterfly, he practically jumps in front of it, puts his saber away and brings up the chatbox. There was no way to stop it and I killed him. The crybaby got his admin friend to kick me before I could even say sorry.
Sadly, some honorz people are like that... they're merely too immature. I myself am an 'honor' player, but I can't stand those 'honor' people whining. Whenever I see someone bitching, I told them to stfu.
Earlier I was playing on a server that belonged to the clan CT. I was fighting a CT member and I was winning, so he ran away and I heard the sound of a heal. I'm not a whiner so it didn't phase me much because it's just a game. Later in the duel, I landed a kata and cut his head off. He screamed LAMER before I could even say gf. Seriously, before I could even squeeze in two letters this guy typed in caps "LAMER". So I get into a fight with the entire CT clan, I duel them all one by one, winning almost all and only losing once due to lag. There these guys are throwing everything they got at me and I'm still winning. Whenever I beat one in a duel someone would try to attack me after and lame me as I said gf. I came back and slashed open his skull casing and his brain splattered all over the sand.
I was going to fight the guy that started with me to begin with in a duel (this was ffa). He said no duels just ffa duel, as if I didn't know he was going to heal when he was losing. Sad stuff, they call me a lamer, then they heal in duels, try to kill me while I say good fight, ect. Once they even tried to spawn a mutant rancor to kill me, but I escaped. Eventually they just kicked me because I was beating all their little "lackeys" they were sending off to fight me. 2v1 3v1 you name it they tried it on me to no avail.
Yup, CT clan sucks indeed, IMO. I went to their server once, and wtf, all the 4-5 admins there were like spawning and riding tauntauns everywhere, and one or two of them went around laming people. I was disgusted by this and took it upon myself to lame one of them. I got slept, eventually, of course. And it definitely didn't increase my respect for that server.
Another time, I'm on some public dueling server with saber throw enabled. I'm kicking serious booty with my saber throw. I'm fighting a guy he does a backflip and I hit him in mid air with the saber killing him. "CHEATER" he screamed, "THROW SPAMMER" screamed his little clan buddy that was with him. I think the clan name was JOTR. Eventually I kept owning them, I won 30 consecutive duels. By now they were cursing and screaming and crying like my 3 year old cousin (well the screaming and crying part anyway). Every time I tried to say gf or bow before duel they tried to attack me, I still owned them. One guy even accused me of hacking.
Merely those whining 'honor' players again. Oh, and did you mention JotR? I'm surprised... I personally knew Jygonshen, the leader, to be a frank and nice person. He's a really good leader and always got the members present in the server to unite whenever he wants them to do so. I thought that it's a good clan, but I'm not so sure now.
I mean, how hypocritical do you get? You call someone a lamer then proceed to attack them when they are defensless? So H0N0RZ only applies for you and not against your opponent right?
The 'honor' players that I know lame back when they get lamed. Unfortunately it's your bad luck to get lamed by people just because you're owning them in a duel. I'm just lucky not to have met them yet. ;)
Originally posted by Druid Allanon
Sadly, some honorz people are like that... they're merely too immature. I myself am an 'honor' player, but I can't stand those 'honor' people whining. Whenever I see someone bitching, I told them to stfu.
Yup, CT clan sucks indeed, IMO. I went to their server once, and wtf, all the 4-5 admins there were like spawning and riding tauntauns everywhere, and one or two of them went around laming people. I was disgusted by this and took it upon myself to lame one of them. I got slept, eventually, of course. And it definitely didn't increase my respect for that server.
Merely those whining 'honor' players again. Oh, and did you mention JotR? I'm surprised... I personally knew Jygonshen, the leader, to be a frank and nice person. He's a really good leader and always got the members present in the server to unite whenever he wants them to do so. I thought that it's a good clan, but I'm not so sure now.
The 'honor' players that I know lame back when they get lamed. Unfortunately it's your bad luck to get lamed by people just because you're owning them in a duel. I'm just lucky not to have met them yet. ;)
I think we should still spread our Gospel of anti-Honor and anti-Whining to as many new players as possible in order to safeguard the majority of the community from the damage caused by the minority of whiners and h0n0r d00dz.
Sorry, man, but that can never happen. I'm sure you're not the first person who have thought of that. Up till now most servers are 'honor' ones.
exactly why, once ja came out i stopped playing jo. Cause all the admin abusers whiners etc in jo. Sadly Chosen One comes back with another admin mod with all the little crap to make sucky players feel better when they die. I know i'm not the best player, but i still do say something when die. Not lamer or really a whine, i just say something like "crap my seeing wore off LOL" when sniped, since i'm virtually never suprised and always have seeing on. or "started to get a bit laggy for me there, can we rematch?" which happens alot cause i got 56k, even though i still manage to kill people with cable and dsl. i think you all are good to be angry at the people, but this is something we see every day, and it might be that we see something and immediatly think WHINER without giving too much thought. I try to stay away from any sides and just attack who attacks me, and people i just plain don't like. i'm decent to follow the bow when in a duel, saying good fight, and not chat killing (for the most part) but i stay away from clan servers other rules since they are pretty stupid. if they want to kick me then so be it. i'll find a more tasteful server, and forget it happened. If i keep up with my hate for the guys, i wont have too many friends online at all. one time i was at a server, with a clan member named Supahfly i think, and for some reason, probably that he was pissed off with me being proud of my skill, started to yell at me, cuss at me, lame me when he could and the whole like. threatened to ban me even though he wasn't an admin, getting the entire server to attack me, though i could easily kill them with any gun or melee. Eventually he left after he killed me in a saber duel. hey what can i say? i use melee and when i do use the saber, i fight a constant battle between my preference of red blue or yellow, and am only really good against dual saber users. so once he left i eventually left cause i was tired and the next day i went there, and he arrived and i saved him from some lamers and eventually he was on my side. even said to some guy i was a great duelist. even though i suck and the guy beat us both... basically its not good to keep on hating the guys cause theres still good in em. always that small bit a hope. just remeber force absorb can't save ya from empowered grip...
Sorry, man, but that can never happen. I'm sure you're not the first person who have thought of that. Up till now most servers are 'honor' ones.
Doubtful, since JK2 is dominated by sabers only, force disabled mostly running Jedi Academy mod servers.
JA is dominated by all weapons, all force and no mods servers.
This gives a hint that they're not honor dominated.
Why would honor servers enable guns and all force powers and avoid using admin mods if they were bound and determined to emulate that sort of gameplay (ie: honor)?
I've kind of lost intrest in JA now, whining and that honor garbage are partly to blame for it. And so is KotOR ! :D
I think im going to be a more RPGing gamer now, so after i complete KotOR 20 times, i'll start NWN again. :)
No kidding - KotOR is the ultimate lure. :)
The only thing I can say about the whining is don't listen to it, and if that doesn't work, join a different server. There's no shutting whiners up.
Easy, if they keep kicking you. Then DONT LAME. Simple as that. :rolleyes:
Originally posted by Tesla
I've kind of lost intrest in JA now, whining and that honor garbage are partly to blame for it. And so is KotOR ! :D
I think im going to be a more RPGing gamer now, so after i complete KotOR 20 times, i'll start NWN again. :)
WOW ! I did that ! Im playing HoU right now...hmm will I ever reach the lv 40 cap ??!!!
MTFBWYA
Originally posted by Druid Allanon
Sadly, some honorz people are like that... they're merely too immature. I myself am an 'honor' player, but I can't stand those 'honor' people whining. Whenever I see someone bitching, I told them to stfu.
Yup, CT clan sucks indeed, IMO. I went to their server once, and wtf, all the 4-5 admins there were like spawning and riding tauntauns everywhere, and one or two of them went around laming people. I was disgusted by this and took it upon myself to lame one of them. I got slept, eventually, of course. And it definitely didn't increase my respect for that server.
Merely those whining 'honor' players again. Oh, and did you mention JotR? I'm surprised... I personally knew Jygonshen, the leader, to be a frank and nice person. He's a really good leader and always got the members present in the server to unite whenever he wants them to do so. I thought that it's a good clan, but I'm not so sure now.
The 'honor' players that I know lame back when they get lamed. Unfortunately it's your bad luck to get lamed by people just because you're owning them in a duel. I'm just lucky not to have met them yet. ;)
On JotR, I don't remember the main whiner's name but the other guy was named Assassin. Don't know if u know this guy but he is definitly a crybaby. And the main whiner was even worse, but I can't remember his name.
On the CT server, I saw one admin go into the bar and spawn a rancor (small one) in a room full of RPers. As I watched the rancor eat the poor, roleplaying people, I said to myself, "I know it's their server and they can do whatever they want, but if I were them, I'd treat everyone the way I want to be treated". I think CT should rename to HAAWOTW (Hypocritical Admins and Whiners of the World). They can sit there and lame you all game, but the second you defend yourself and completly own them, they cry and all their little lackeys (CT clan members) go after you thinking they can teach u a lesson about "laming". Hah.
In my opinion, I dont care about HONORZ or anything like that. Sure, in Jedi Outcast I would bow before a DUEL, but there is a reason it the other mode I play is called FREE FOR ALL. It should have been called DEATHMATCH where if you are in it, you are hunted, regardless of your HONOR. In the servers I play, you get honor by trying to live against me in good old space combat. Just ask Kurgan or Manquesa. I know that there are those who think they must have the saber-off=peace and all that, and I must agree with those who attack them, especially if its in FFA/DeathMatch... In DUEL mode, I could understand it. And then there are those that try to make the anti-honorz and the pro-honorz both happy by making Admin mods, but then the rest of the community feels neglected because instead of making all these great features, they make stuff like invincible shield while saber off, and all that. I must say I am against Admin mods, regardless if they have "abusive admin" commands or not. I feel that no server should have the power to AMSLAP or AMSLEEP ANYBODY. If you want to deal with them. deal with them, dont pull some command out of your ass.
Anti-honorz and fun supporter. My perfect idea of server would be Amidala Chop Shop without the uber-sabers. That is, a plain kill-kill-kill FFA server. That is, what every FFA server should be. It's sad to think that normal FFA servers without crappy RPGing and lame rules are so rare :(
P.S. is there any Chop Shop alike server in Europe? :confused:
P.P.S. saber down = peace is for losers, if you are away just go spectator.
Originally posted by Giddamon
Anti-honorz and fun supporter. My perfect idea of server would be Amidala Chop Shop without the uber-sabers. That is, a plain kill-kill-kill FFA server. That is, what every FFA server should be. It's sad to think that normal FFA servers without crappy RPGing and lame rules are so rare :(
P.S. is there any Chop Shop alike server in Europe? :confused:
Yes there is, in the UK:
gam3rz.co.uk - ^4Jedi ^5Academy ^4Deathmatch|213.228.215.50:29076|xMod v2.1.0
In answer to the thread question, no. I don't care and never will. JA is the only game that I play with this kind of behaviour. So I just stick to normal shooters. Now you should all start playing KOTOR.
Honor nubs are indeed whiners, I can vouch for that.
Today I was playing at -|TDS|- clan server, again. My favourite move's the Grip+Backslash. It worked wonders and I got lots of kills in just a few minutes. One guy called Revan(who's in the -|TDS|- clan) accused me of being a spammer, a nub. I told him I use it only when I'm ffaing. He didn't believe me, so I proposed a duel with single. He agreed, and I beat him with 6hp remaining. I said my usual 'gf's. Guess what he said? 'You're still a nub because you spammed the moves over and over'. I retorted back by saying I use both red and yellow and I wasn't spamming. He slapped and silenced me for that. He even renamed me to 'i f*** boys'. How despicable is that? I expressed myself by changing my nicks to '-|TDS|- are bad sports', 'Revan's an abuser and a sore loser'.
In the end? I got banned, all because he was furious with me for beating him. In this respect lamers are more honorable than those honor nubs.
3 Words: I Dont Care
I rarely get annoyed by the ignorance of others whilst plaing JA online.
As for myself, I usually just go with the flow, maybe find a few duels. I always play FFA and I chat just about like i'm talking now, I follow the rules and don't mind
if something annoys me, which is usually a continuos line of killing me, i just leave and fnd my way into another server
*off topic* Heyo, IG-64! This is Neo, from AJE server. ;) Remember me?
Originally posted by ExcelsioN
Now you should all start playing KOTOR. I'm way ahead of you... :)
Originally posted by Druid Allanon
Today I was playing at -|TDS|- clan server, again. My favourite move's the Grip+Backslash. It worked wonders and I got lots of kills in just a few minutes. One guy called Revan(who's in the -|TDS|- clan) accused me of being a spammer, a nub...[/B]
LOL, I can confirm what the druid said. I met that whining kid on the same server, well it was a really fun experience:
I killed him with a single saber triple combo (in FFA, go figure...)
"<Revan>: you cheater!"
Then I gripped and trew him down a bottomless pit
"<Revan>: grip whores = n00bs"
Then I killed him with lightning (usually I pick drain and grip only, but I just got the dark side power up so why not use it? :) )
"<Revan>: lightning = n00bs"
Then he tries to set up a "trap" behind a door, a quick kata and the dude is dead again
"<Revan>: fast kata = n00bs"
Trust me, I couldn't stop laughing! I killed that dude in 6 or 7 different ways before he disconnected and everytime he whined and said I was a n00b :D
LOL! Good for you, my friend. Was he admin at that time? I'm surprised he didn't abuse ya... oh well... I didn't have the satisfaction of laming him. :( I got abused the moment I beat him.... and eventually banned.
Hehe... my favorite move (on flipkick servers) is throw + pull + flipkick. Start doing that in an FFA, it really brings out the whiners. :D
Probably, but not as 'whiner-triggerish' as Grip+Backslash. It's normally a 1 hit kill. Force whiners and people who hate to lose will whine about this if you do it for like 3 times.
Originally posted by Druid Allanon
*off topic* Heyo, IG-64! This is Neo, from AJE server. ;) Remember me?
The IG that goes on JA MP is my brother, I go by the name of Prosk Neftis, confusing, huh? Anyways, I was in that server as well and I do recall my brother telling me "stay away from stupid people like Neo" but hi anyway :p
Funny title of this thread considering the guy posting it is whining himself. Surprised no one's pointed that out.
Honor killed the JK series. End of story.
Originally posted by IG-64
The IG that goes on JA MP is my brother, I go by the name of Prosk Neftis, confusing, huh? Anyways, I was in that server as well and I do recall my brother telling me "stay away from stupid people like Neo" but hi anyway :p
*recalls* LOL, I do remember laming you loads of times :P Oh, and did your bro tell ya that in real life? I don't remember him saying that in the game.
My 4 year old likes playing the game. and for fun i put him in a FFA server. he knows how to use the force and swing the saber. and that to score he has to get the other players. yet he was kicked for laming hahaha 4 years old and the admin kicked him for laming lol
I so wished i recorded it.
Originally posted by Tosh_UK
My 4 year old likes playing the game. and for fun i put him in a FFA server. he knows how to use the force and swing the saber. and that to score he has to get the other players. yet he was kicked for laming hahaha 4 years old and the admin kicked him for laming lol
I so wished i recorded it. I'd pay to see that...
Originally posted by vS:Mr.Joshua
Funny title of this thread considering the guy posting it is whining himself. Surprised no one's pointed that out. So true...
Man, that must be one talented four year old!
Originally posted by vS:Mr.Joshua
Funny title of this thread considering the guy posting it is whining himself. Surprised no one's pointed that out.
Excuse me, I didn't ask for your faggot opinion.
The only reason no one "pointed it out" was because it is simply not true. Please think before you hit the submit reply button next time, cretin.
Well, i just think that in JO there wasnt people like in JA, people in JO was much better than JA ones and in JA the "noobs" are always laming just because the special moves are hipereasy to do; to tell you the truth i only care JA because i can make ships and/or ride them ingame, but talking about people personality i prefer JO ones, they dont kick people just for chatkilling somebody once and are more respectfull.
To answer your question; NO.
Thus, why I've uninstalled this P.O.S. & moved on to the far superior magic sp of KoTOR.:deathii: