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Honor and jedi academy?

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 Rad Blackrose
08-12-2003, 5:40 PM
#151
Originally posted by Rumor
chicken. :eek:

Looking over at their forums, attempting to debate a point with them is like walking into the showers at a prison and intentionally dropping the soap.
 Obi-Wan X
08-12-2003, 6:15 PM
#152
I fear that this honor code will never be solved with JA/JO...and to be quite honest, it probably can't. People PLAY the way they play for a reason, and they obviously enjoy it.
 ryudom
08-12-2003, 6:25 PM
#153
i used to play like that. real games are much more entertaining
 Haemon
08-12-2003, 7:23 PM
#154
Originally posted by Chewie Bakker
Personally, when I played Multiplayer (I stick to map-making now) I'd abide by whatever rules the server dictates. If there isn't a server available that you like, how about making one of your own? Of course, you can stay here and whine like immature brats in the Jedi Academy forum if you'd prefer. Perhaps you could reasonably prove your point in logical debate as opposed to all this pointless mudslinging if you wish to continue this line of "discussion."

Well since you just admitted you haven't played JO in quite awhile how can you have any idea what we are talking about in the present community.

Week by week, day by day, hour by hour admins get more abusive, force is thought of as a tool of the "lamers", and guns turn into a weapon for the dishonorable.

At any given time I am willing to wager $100 that at least 80% of the people playing in FFA servers are emoting or in "press K" duels. The other 20% are slamming their "LOLOLOLOLZ" binds as an admin sleep/slaps/analy plugs a "lamer".

Originally posted by Chewie Bakker
This thread is both off-topic and a disgrace to the Jedi Knight dot Net forums. I came to the Jedi Academy forums to see what people thought of the upcoming game, not listen to people blather mindlessly about their JK2 multiplayer grudges. I should've known that this thread would be a complete waste of my time by the Subject Header.

A disgrace? You want to talk about disgraces. Look at a community that has been around for over a year that only accepts a fraction of the game as an acceptable way of playing.

Also this thread is far more relevent than you can imagine(and you might if you played more often).

JA is a sequel and, its coming out a little over a year after its predecessor. That means that most people playing JO today will be playing JA tomorrow (metaphorically speaking). All these abusive admins and fanboys that are conviced pull/throw is an unbeatable strategy will be in JA.

Its a problem(yes a problem) that needs to be dealt with. It mortally wounded the JO community and I don't want that to happen in JA.
 FK | unnamed
08-12-2003, 7:42 PM
#155
For Jedi Academy I think we should do like clan orb/FU! And have an official "honor noobie" of the week contest.

We all can compete to see who gets the best screens/demos of the saber = off peace don't lame meeeee!!! crowd.

Take a look at some of the recent gems they got:



http://yoshimi8.tripod.com/sc1)

http://yoshimi8.tripod.com/sc2)

http://yoshimi8.tripod.com/sc3)
 Rad Blackrose
08-12-2003, 7:52 PM
#156
Originally posted by FK | unnamed
For Jedi Academy I think we should do like clan orb/FU! And have an official "honor noobie" of the week contest.

We all can compete to see who gets the best screens/demos of the saber = off peace don't lame meeeee!!! crowd.

Take a look at some of the recent gems they got:



http://yoshimi8.tripod.com/sc1)

http://yoshimi8.tripod.com/sc2)

http://yoshimi8.tripod.com/sc3)

Amen... Amen...
 ryudom
08-12-2003, 8:35 PM
#157
hahahaha thats excellant
 Obi-Wan X
08-12-2003, 10:44 PM
#158
I used to that for the original jk! Of course there wasn't any honor code back then. We usually did it for those that claimed you "hacked", seeing as though the original JK was far to easy to edit. You had newbs with christmas sabers and newbs literally flying through levels as tie fighters :rolleyes: :D


Even if JA does bring in the honor code, the best we can do is simply try to deal with the rules and regulations used. Its no big deal to bow before a duel ( depends on the situation of course), or try not to kill people that are afk. Even if you do not want to do this, its no biggie, its better than being "lamed", "slapped", and everything else that admins do.
 Guardian Omega
08-13-2003, 2:30 AM
#159
............I aint touching that topic with a 10 ft pole.........
Bots do have poor timing, they swung their saber when I was no where near them........

And maybe you should make a demo on how to dodge pull+throw........
 FK | unnamed
08-13-2003, 2:51 AM
#160
Originally posted by Guardian Omega
............I aint touching that topic with a 10 ft pole.........
Bots do have poor timing, they swung their saber when I was no where near them........

And maybe you should make a demo on how to dodge pull+throw........


sorry about my language over there (if things like that offend you) for those of you who read that post on that other forum.

But being called an "idiot/moron/dumb ass" by people who didn't have the slightest clue what they were talking about then in turn after I proved they were wrong, still having to listen to their condescending remarks kind of ticked me off.

You look at the way they sat there and basically treated rumor like **** and insulted him at every opportunity but the second someone throws it back in their face, like a typical hypocrite they reach for the big red shiny ban button and censor what is being said.
 Guardian Omega
08-13-2003, 3:21 AM
#161
Er, I think you got my words wrong, I meant by that phrase that I'm not going to debate in there, since it's pretty much useless.

But yeah, you do have a point, he did get treated like a *****...
(On the topic of pull+throw, I found it very clever whoever found that combo.)
 FK | unnamed
08-13-2003, 6:24 AM
#162
yeah stuff like pt's & grip kicks are really clever, it's a shame more people don't share your attitude.

=\
 Side
08-13-2003, 6:41 AM
#163
i read sum of this thread and i thought i could share my point in this,

ive posted this a few days ago on strat shack so il just repeat myself,

oh yea and bout the lamer part....u guys r ridiculous this is the problem wich cause the death of this game...yea ok it already dead but still fun to me,let see it from a point of view of a newbah,"wow jk2 50$"
buy it,install it,patch it,get into a FFA server,Start attacking thinking his playing and not laming,15 second after killing 10-15 people,he get freezed,slapped,asleep and finaly kicked
"omg wtf"
throw his jk2 into garbage
and start playing CS again
 Chewie Bakker
08-13-2003, 7:00 AM
#164
It's funny how many people flamed me for commenting (rather severely, I'll concede) on this threads lack of purpose. I'm guessing this was done under the assumption that I'm pro-H0|\|0UR. Actually, as I mentioned in the [DJC]Undercover (http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=108202&goto=newpost) thread, I think the "saber down = peace" rule is a joke, and that bowing has no serious place in JK2 (or a certain other computer game coming out in a month or so ;)).

I see that good ol' Stormhammer addressed the issue a bit more elloquently than I did (and with a lot less venom). I'm glad to see that the focus is on a solution and not griping now. Now that I've done commending the thread on its newfound focus, I come to the second reason I've returned to this thread:

Someone described my posting here as being a "bitchy mother scolding a child." Well, that simile is fairly accurate. I still feel it needed saying, but it was still over the top. I apologize.

Originally posted by Haemon
Well since you just admitted you haven't played JO in quite awhile how can you have any idea what we are talking about in the present community.
Funnily enough, I left as the Saberist Code was getting popular. ;P

But seriously, guess why I left?

Originally posted by Rad Blackrose
And even in FFA duels, don't get me started. I accepted a duel today on the Grendel server, and immediately opened a can on the person. All I got was him putting his saber away and asking, "WTF, don't you know how to duel?" I mean, what do you want me to do, hold C to an ad infinitum point of time, then proceed to inch my mouse down very slow? I was called an ass afterwards, oh bloody well.
Whatcha need to do is bind a key to /say duel n. A struggle for domination between two contending persons, groups, or ideas. :animelol:

Originally posted by Luc Solar
I have no pity for the fools who get flamed by "Rad's" or "Rumors"... Fanbois have deserved it, and we've deserved the right to point out their retardedness after putting up with all the BS during the JO-times.
I resent that. A fanboy would know that Jedi and Sith don't bow before a duel (the closest being Dooku's salute to Yoda in Ep 2), and the only reason a Jedi/Sith would have his/her lightsaber down would be in an effort to make themselves less noticable (Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan creeping across the bridge to ambush the battle droids) or when it's pointless having it on (near the end of the final duel where the Jedi get stuck in the core shield thing).

Still, yeah: What Stormhammer said.

:gben: The Force will be with you, always.
 Side
08-13-2003, 7:08 AM
#165
Hey wait,what happen if both dueler are light force????
cuz u know...when im light force i dont bow either(yea sorry if im making up stupid reply but hey,it 5 am and im godam bored)
 Luc Solar
08-13-2003, 9:38 AM
#166
Originally posted by Chewie Bakker
I resent that. A fanboy would know that Jedi and Sith don't bow before a duel (the closest being Dooku's salute to Yoda in Ep 2), and the only reason a Jedi/Sith would have his/her lightsaber down would be in an effort to make themselves less noticable (Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan creeping across the bridge to ambush the battle droids) or when it's pointless having it on (near the end of the final duel where the Jedi get stuck in the core shield thing).
:gben: The Force will be with you, always.

Fanboi / rpg noob / saber noobie / whatever. It's all the same. :)
 Side
08-13-2003, 10:28 AM
#167
haha how did i miss that part
omg that just gimp
 Rockstar
08-14-2003, 8:19 AM
#168
darth vader attacked luke not because he had his guard down or was dishonourable!! he did it because luke was "provoking" darth vader's good side. luke began to talk with his saber down to try and get his father back, but vader throws his saber to: a)show luke that it wasn't working. b)stop luke from distracting him (which it was, it was taking vader of his focus of killing)
 [D]HermS
08-14-2003, 9:33 AM
#169
Honor? never heard of it..... do you mean HONOUR?!?! LOL

Anyways when my servers up, anyone who attacks a player that is bowing will be kicked in the first instance, and in the second they will be banned permanently.

If you wanna attack people that are showing a bit of common courtesy then that says a lot about your personality and i will not waste server bandwidth on people that have no manners.

Having said that, Bowing is not compulsory, good manners are though.

To sum up if the only way you can win a fight is by taking a cheap shot then who is the n00b?:rolleyes:
 Side
08-14-2003, 9:45 AM
#170
My goal is to win
someone that bowing=yay a kil
 SettingShadow
08-14-2003, 9:55 AM
#171
Originally posted by [D]HermS
To sum up if the only way you can win a fight is by taking a cheap shot then who is the n00b?:rolleyes:

I'm not for attacking when bowing but, who said that's the only way they can win a fight? :rolleyes:
 [D]HermS
08-14-2003, 9:59 AM
#172
well, the point is that if you are All that then why go for the cheap/easy kill?

If you cant understand the idea behind this so-called honour system or manners.... i pity you.
 ryudom
08-14-2003, 10:39 AM
#173
most people that attack bowing people probably don't do it for an easy kill. they do it because they hate bowing and all it represents (aka aol-chat servers).
 Jah Warrior
08-14-2003, 11:19 AM
#174
The way i see it is this:-

You dont like bowing? dont do it, but please let those of us who DO enjoy that aspect of the game have our couple of seconds to do our thing. If you can't show respect for your fellow gamers you may as well **** off.

If winning is all you are worried about why are playing online? Just make up a server full of bots and you can cheap shot all you like, but leave those of us with common decency, honor, manners and morals continue adhere to our principles.

Anyone that used to frequent my old server will know that i won't stand for rude ignorant players to spoil the fun for the others. LOL I'll think you will find that most admins agree with me too, so... It's your call, behave or be banned and above all dont be so damn childish.

Bowing is harmless and if you think you cant stand to lose a couple of seconds of your life so people can actually behave in a civilised manner then you are missing the point of online gaming entirely.

Winning is not everything, being a nice person counts for a lot more.

be warned, if you show up at teh -]H-P[- server and act like some of you above have stated you'll be banned and you wont be missed.
 SettingShadow
08-14-2003, 12:07 PM
#175
I do not bow anymore (unless the rules would say I have to), but neither do I kill those who do bow. I also always follow the rules of a server, and if you fail to follow these rules, of course you should be kicked. What I can't stand if when someone comes into a public server with no rules and start whining because someone kick, or is camping because it's not honourable and try to vote kick you off the server.
 Luc Solar
08-14-2003, 1:33 PM
#176
[D]HermS, please read this thread and you might understand what we're talking about.

It's not about whether or not it's cool to DFA someone who is bowing in the beginning of a duel. It about "honour". Read this thread and try to understand that THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS HONOUR IN JEDI OUTCAST.

"Good manners" is an entirely different thing. You shouldn't behave like an ass online, I agree. Most of us agree.
But that has NOTHING to do with this honour-crap. Acting nice has nothing to do with silly rules that someone THINKS everyone else should follow. It has nothing to do with the constant whining and kick votes and admin abuse and /amsit/-kiss servers.

Bowing is the tip of the iceberg. It represents the "you must play the way I want or else you're a lame fag and I'll ban you"-mentality.

Are you saying we should welcome that attitude? 'cause you know - I got a really mean set or honour-rules that I'll gladly impose on you.
For example Rule #1: red stance is gay and any lamer using red stance must be banned.

U like that? No? Well guess what - I DON'T LIKE YOUR RULES EITHER! :mad:

So why don't we all just act nice online, quit bitching about others "laming" and play the way we want? Sounds fair? Ok. It's a deal. :)
 Rad Blackrose
08-14-2003, 3:00 PM
#177
Originally posted by Jah Warrior
The way i see it is this:-

You dont like bowing? dont do it, but please let those of us who DO enjoy that aspect of the game have our couple of seconds to do our thing. If you can't show respect for your fellow gamers you may as well **** off.

If winning is all you are worried about why are playing online? Just make up a server full of bots and you can cheap shot all you like, but leave those of us with common decency, honor, manners and morals continue adhere to our principles.

Anyone that used to frequent my old server will know that i won't stand for rude ignorant players to spoil the fun for the others. LOL I'll think you will find that most admins agree with me too, so... It's your call, behave or be banned and above all dont be so damn childish.

Bowing is harmless and if you think you cant stand to lose a couple of seconds of your life so people can actually behave in a civilised manner then you are missing the point of online gaming entirely.

Winning is not everything, being a nice person counts for a lot more.

be warned, if you show up at teh -]H-P[- server and act like some of you above have stated you'll be banned and you wont be missed.

Which is why I always showed respect on your server Jah, you always had a good community. Is the server still up? Or are you preparing for JK3? ;)

well, the point is that if you are All that then why go for the cheap/easy kill?

If you cant understand the idea behind this so-called honour system or manners.... i pity you.

Another person that fails to read posts, jumps ahead, and posts whatever comes out of his ass first...
 Prime
08-14-2003, 4:01 PM
#178
Originally posted by Rockstar
darth vader attacked luke not because he had his guard down or was dishonourable!! he did it because luke was "provoking" darth vader's good side. luke began to talk with his saber down to try and get his father back, but vader throws his saber to: a)show luke that it wasn't working. b)stop luke from distracting him (which it was, it was taking vader of his focus of killing) Say what?

Darth attacked Luke when he had his saber down because he is eeevvviiilllll. Besides, Vader was right. It is unwise to lower your defenses, because if you do, someone is likely to put a lightsaber through you. And Luke attacked the Emperor when the evil one had no lightsaber. Oh no! Luke is a lamer! Better vote him off the server!

And Vader was not trying to kill Luke. He was trying to turn him to the Dark Side.

Originally posted by [D]HermS
well, the point is that if you are All that then why go for the cheap/easy kill?I don't attack people when they bow, but I have no problem with people who do. Whether you are "all that" or not, if your goal is just to win, why not take the opportunity when it is handed to you on a silver platter like that?

Originally posted by [D]HermS
If you cant understand the idea behind this so-called honour system or manners.... i pity you. But the "honour system" != manners (as Luc said). Having manners is being polite and not being verbally abusive. To me, bowing isn't the real issue. The whole saber down = peace and so on is more of a gameplay disruption. And that has nothing to do with manners.

Besides, the original goal of the honour system was a good one, to have people show respect to each other. But it has backfired horribly. It has done more to get people pissed off at each other than anything else in JO. This is why I don't think it should be adhered to, because it simply doesn't work.

Originally posted by Jah Warrior
You dont like bowing? dont do it, but please let those of us who DO enjoy that aspect of the game have our couple of seconds to do our thing. If you can't show respect for your fellow gamers you may as well **** off. Like I said, I don't mind bowing so much. I will bow if someone bows to me. But really, the respect needs to work both ways. Certainly I always try to be polite and complimentary when I am playing someone. Personally, I have have much more respect for someone who plays the game and is curteous afterwards.

But bowing isn't the issue. The issue is that those who want to RPG (by which I mean do things other than play the game as it was intended) are demanding respect for how they want to play. But they don't give respect to those that want to run around trying to kill people. I mean, that is how the game was designed to be played. Why is that goal less honourable than RPGing?

Originally posted by Jah Warrior
If winning is all you are worried about why are playing online? Uh, what? That is exactly the reason the vast majority of people who play online are playing. If you are not playing to win, you are in the minority. By playing to win, I don't mean just caring about frags. I play to have fun, and I don't get upset if I do poorly. But when I play, I am trying to kill my opponants, so in that sense, I care about winning.

Originally posted by Jah Warrior
Just make up a server full of bots and you can cheap shot all you like, but leave those of us with common decency, honor, manners and morals continue adhere to our principles. Sadly, for many people bots is the only answer for a game. Not so they can cheap shot, but it is the only way they can play an MP game where their opponants actually play the game and don't complain every time they do a move. They prefer to have their enemies try and kill them, as opposed to sitting around and using kissing animations.

Besides, do people who folow this honour code really have more "decency, honor, manners and morals" than others? Not from what I have seen (although there certainly are those who are respectful in this group). They tend to be the ones who call people "gay", "lame", and often use racial slurs when someone actually attacks them in a game about killing the other guy. It doesn't seem that those people are displaying manners and respect to me.

Again, showing respect and manners are a completely different from following an artifical honour system.

Originally posted by Jah Warrior
Anyone that used to frequent my old server will know that i won't stand for rude ignorant players to spoil the fun for the others. Rude and ignorant players should not be tolorated. But what is your definition of rude and ignorant? Someone who doesn't bow or attacks or attacks someone with their lightsaber down (actual question, as I have never played with you)?

Spoiling fun for others. That is what this whole thing is all about, isn't it? But, like respect, it is a two way street. What about those people who have fun by running around and racking up frags? Is their way of having fun less valid than RPGers? Don't you think that having people whine and complain about being attacked when their lightsaber is down ruins the fun of others? Why is your fun more important than other people's?

Originally posted by Jah Warrior
Winning is not everything, being a nice person counts for a lot more. But for many (most?) people who play JO and other online games, winning is everything. That is why there are lots of ladders and tournaments. That is why the game keeps kill stats. Winning may not be everything to you (it isn't to me either), which is fine, but playing for those competative reasons is certainly valid. So why, if you aren't competative, do you feel that everyone should play the way you want to play, and not the way they want to play. This is nothing to do with being polite and respectful. Ultimately, this is the problem that most of us have with the "RPGers" who come on public servers and demand we play the way they want to play. I think you will agree that this is unfair.


Originally posted by SettingShadow
I do not bow anymore (unless the rules would say I have to), but neither do I kill those who do bow. I also always follow the rules of a server, and if you fail to follow these rules, of course you should be kicked. What I can't stand if when someone comes into a public server with no rules and start whining because someone kick, or is camping because it's not honourable and try to vote kick you off the server. I couldn't have put it better, SettingShadow :)

Originally posted by Luc Solar
So why don't we all just act nice online, quit bitching about others "laming" and play the way we want? Sounds fair? Ok. It's a deal. Now that is an honour system that actual would have some merit!

Again, I am all for being polite and respectful to other people. I just don't feel demanding people follow an artificial set of rules and then verbally abusing them when they don't follow it is the way to do it. :D
 FK | unnamed
08-14-2003, 4:53 PM
#179
The best kills are the ones where they walk slowly across the map all dramatic and movie like.

Then when they go into this slow, long drawn out dramatic bow... pop, a DFA right to the ****ing head.



:hatchrun:
 GC256
08-14-2003, 5:34 PM
#180
think storm and, to some degree, bakker, have a point. maybe instead of flamming the fanboys we should think of possible ways to convert them.

here's mine:

first you'd go to differant servers, and own some people up. but make sure you follow the server rules, somewhat (maybe bind a key to /say ready instead of bowing heh). anyway after you pwn them up and maybe give them some advice on their game, tell them of an upcoming tourney or ladder happening.

i think the key is getting them involved in some competition. i think most people on those servers are competitive, but have been brain washed with the SC. anyway it would take some work, but i'd really like to see this community turned around
Hah, if you all didn't notice, you had me converted twice in this thread. I tried to see your points, and when I finally did, instead of debating it in a decent manner, you insulted me and called me names. After seeing how immature you (I'm sure you know who you are) acted, I went back to my old ways. I don't get it, you had me on your side, isn't that what you wanted? Oh well, I won't lose any sleep over it.

By the way, it's nice to see some more honor people here. I'll be looking foward to playing JA with all my fellow clan mates and players who play with a shred of decency.
 FK | unnamed
08-14-2003, 5:38 PM
#181
:hatchrun: :hatchrun: :hatchrun: :hatchrun: :hatchrun: :hatchrun:


sorry, I just can't get enough of those ^

actually it is good to see a lot of old jk2 people coming back, even if they are real life jedi role players.
;)


a lot of the old school ff duel big dogs have been popping up on our servers as of late as well.

Should make for a nice launch for the game, player base wise.
 Rumor
08-14-2003, 6:04 PM
#182
Originally posted by [D]HermS
well, the point is that if you are All that then why go for the cheap/easy kill?

If you cant understand the idea behind this so-called honour system or manners.... i pity you.

we got the idea a long time ago. the practice is what turned us off. aka the people who demand respect treat you like ****...etc.
 Rumor
08-14-2003, 6:07 PM
#183
Originally posted by Jah Warrior
The way i see it is this:-

You dont like bowing? dont do it, but please let those of us who DO enjoy that aspect of the game have our couple of seconds to do our thing. If you can't show respect for your fellow gamers you may as well **** off.

If winning is all you are worried about why are playing online? Just make up a server full of bots and you can cheap shot all you like, but leave those of us with common decency, honor, manners and morals continue adhere to our principles.
missed.

we play online so we can beat the **** out of HUMAN BEINGS, moron.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS HONOR IN A VIDEO GAME

want to show respect for a fellow gamer? be civil to them.
 Rumor
08-14-2003, 6:16 PM
#184
Originally posted by FK | unnamed
The best kills are the ones where they walk slowly across the map all dramatic and movie like.

Then when they go into this slow, long drawn out dramatic bow... pop, a DFA right to the ****ing head.



:hatchrun:


<3 they are the best <3
 FK | unnamed
08-14-2003, 6:17 PM
#185
Hmm here is an idea...

Instead of the *ASC* thing let's start a "Lamer Academy".

Not only can we teach people how to play a cheap as humanly possible but we can have classes on bugs/map exploits/how to camp and such.

We can even do classes teaching people the best chat macros/questions to bind to keys so as to elicit a long response from their opponent and guarantee an easy type kill.

That would so rule.
 ryudom
08-14-2003, 7:03 PM
#186
hahaha

"do you like star trek?"

hahah that was teh best
 Rumor
08-14-2003, 8:55 PM
#187
Originally posted by FK | unnamed
Hmm here is an idea...

Instead of the *ASC* thing let's start a "Lamer Academy".

Not only can we teach people how to play a cheap as humanly possible but we can have classes on bugs/map exploits/how to camp and such.

We can even do classes teaching people the best chat macros/questions to bind to keys so as to elicit a long response from their opponent and guarantee an easy type kill.

That would so rule.

lets do that. seriously.

Kaoticz ASC Academy.

irc = #kaoticz on irc.enterthegame.com

i can get plaz to do a site for it and we can put a section for it on the forums.
 FK | unnamed
08-14-2003, 10:13 PM
#188
We can also have classes like “how to kill an empowered admin” and courses on “how to bind several names to keys so as to confuse noobs trying to vote you off”.
 g//plaZma
08-14-2003, 10:59 PM
#189
The way I see it, if rumor doesn't show any honor to me, no secks.

No but seriously the honor system is stupid.

I remember my first time playing JK2. I came into a server and thought the game looked pretty cool. But then I noticed no one was doing anything so I pulled up the console, and realized that everyone was calling me a "lamer." In all other online games, lamer is a word used on people who play with annoying tactics. That got me confused. I didn't understand how I could be using such tactics if I just picked the game up a few minutes ago. Surely, these people who have probably been playing longer than me can beat me easily, right?

I shrugged all the shrieks of "lamer" off and thought maybe that people only played this way in the particular server I was in. So, I went to other servers and sure enough, I get the same response. I didn't really like this idea of not killing people with sabers down and bowing and all that nonsense. But I thought each game has its own set of rules so I started to abide by them.
(yeah, sad right?) Well, then after months of playing, and then quitting, I found myself in Grendel for PlanetSide beta. After browsing their forums, I saw that they take on a quake-style playing attitude in JK2. So then I re-installed JK2 and started playing with g// :)

BTW, Rumor I like your idea. I'll get started on the site ASAP (tomorrow probably)
 Rad Blackrose
08-14-2003, 11:50 PM
#190
Originally posted by GC256
Hah, if you all didn't notice, you had me converted twice in this thread. I tried to see your points, and when I finally did, instead of debating it in a decent manner, you insulted me and called me names. After seeing how immature you (I'm sure you know who you are) acted, I went back to my old ways. I don't get it, you had me on your side, isn't that what you wanted? Oh well, I won't lose any sleep over it.

By the way, it's nice to see some more honor people here. I'll be looking foward to playing JA with all my fellow clan mates and players who play with a shred of decency.

I need to find my "Here's the room for the people who care" crap...

StormHammer, as you can see above this is the flamebait I am talking about.
 Luc Solar
08-15-2003, 5:47 AM
#191
This is way off topic, but Rumor:

I installed JO again and happened to stumble on Grendels FFA-server.

I logged on and there were like 5 people playing. One of then was the typical "I had my saber down, that means you can't attack! (someone obviously did :D, not me though..) Saber down means I don't want to fight. You must bow before dueling! Please train me!!1 Press K and duel me!"

Harmless noob. :)

Anyways, I fought a some clan-dood. He missed a DFA and I kicked him once, he died. A second later I'm seeing the good old "Kick Luc Solar?" vote in progress. Vote failed.

Now here's the actual question: the guy said I had h@xorzModified my pk3-files and made my kicks do insane damage. He claimed he had 100/20 hp and I killed him with a single kick.

Naturally he didn't believe me when I said I have no idea wtf he is talking about. Is there an explanation to this? Some weird glitch or something? :confused:
 Rumor
08-15-2003, 5:53 AM
#192
did he use dark rage? because if he did and it ran out, then it would have killed him as it lowers his hp.

what was his name, btw.

/edit: you don't change damage by editing pk3 files. its all server-side. also point out that the server was set to sv_pure 1. that means all files have to be perfect matches for what they are on the server (assets pk3's, etc.) this excludes cfg's.
 FK | unnamed
08-15-2003, 6:02 AM
#193
the only bug even semi like that is the grip one.

dude grabs you, you are being gripped.

you press forward and mash jump really fast.

when grip breaks you shoot up in the air like a rocket and if you touch him you do between 60-100 damage (all depends on how fast you tap jump).

chances are it was just some noob who was not paying attention to his hp.

*god I hope that ^^ got fixed in JA...
 Luc Solar
08-15-2003, 6:34 AM
#194
Originally posted by Rumor
did he use dark rage? because if he did and it ran out, then it would have killed him as it lowers his hp.

what was his name, btw.

/edit: you don't change damage by editing pk3 files. its all server-side. also point out that the server was set to sv_pure 1. that means all files have to be perfect matches for what they are on the server (assets pk3's, etc.) this excludes cfg's.

Nope. No rage. Just a missed DFA and a normal kick in the butt while he was stuck with his saber in the ground.

Can't remember the name. I think he had a yellow tag. But it was no biggie. ;) Can't really think of a reason why he would lie about it though... I mean, why not just call me a lamer and get it over with?

It would be kinda weird if you could simply modify your pk3-files and suddenly become a one-hit-kill-kicking-machine. :eek:

BTW - do rage-kicks do more damage than normal kicks? (yeah, I'm a noob :D)
 Rumor
08-15-2003, 7:26 AM
#195
Originally posted by FK | unnamed
the only bug even semi like that is the grip one.

dude grabs you, you are being gripped.

you press forward and mash jump really fast.

when grip breaks you shoot up in the air like a rocket and if you touch him you do between 60-100 damage (all depends on how fast you tap jump).

chances are it was just some noob who was not paying attention to his hp.

*god I hope that ^^ got fixed in JA...

i dont :P

remember when i got crow and you with a single glitch? that was classic.

luc: no i don't think they do
 Darth Kaan
08-15-2003, 12:35 PM
#196
LOL. Been away for a while. I see some things never change.
 kusanagi
08-15-2003, 1:04 PM
#197
haha man i cant believe ppl are still talking about this honor-emote-loving-RPers vs play-da-damn-game-like-its-designed-to thing.... can we just all get along?? i dont ever bow but dont mean i wanna dis ppl who do...


Originally by luc solar

Do you see? See what you just said: "This 'n that ain't so important but OHMYGOD if you don't do the honourzable 3/1 pirouette before dueling me like everyone must do (according to MY RULES), you will suffer a terrible fate you LAMER!!"

Do you see the problem? You think bowing is not important at all. Others seem to think it's the single most important aspect of the game. See the problem? See why we need to destroy each and every single honour code-idiot when JA comes out?


hahaha cant U see?? ur flaming ppl for doing what they think is right but all the time ur forcing ur RULES on other ppl...cant we all just stop being so god damn righteous?? lol ppl like u already run the US government and religious organazations and look wat the worlds getting into now?? if JA is as good as it looks now surly there's gonna b enough servers for every1?? may be we should put a little tag at the end of servers names to tell ppl whether it is a honor-coded game or an all out kick-dirt-in-ur-eye-game or sumfing, but really dudes this topic is getting should b redantunt by now....
 BrainStorm
08-15-2003, 1:57 PM
#198
Its the classic thread that will never die!

LOL

I still get a kick out of it. Opposite sides of the same coin.

Stop it! Yer killing me! Yall have been killing me for a long time now.

Oh! My sides ache!
 g//plaZma
08-15-2003, 3:06 PM
#199
Originally posted by BrainStorm
Its the classic thread that will never die!

LOL

I still get a kick out of it. Opposite sides of the same coin.

Stop it! Yer killing me! Yall have been killing me for a long time now.

Oh! My sides ache!

:yoda: says you have no honor.
 FK | unnamed
08-15-2003, 3:55 PM
#200
This pretty much sums it all up...

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