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Bush...... My President

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 TheHobGoblin
03-12-2003, 10:10 PM
#1
First this isn't "Bash the president central!" I'm supporting him, so this is for the Bush supporters. I'm making my stand. War is here already. We're to deep in this situation. It's gonna happen You know it. Now I don't have enough credits for attachments so I'll just make it with the words.



Bush Is Our President
The supporters keep America going

Cry babies don't

Take a hike cry baby

America home of the BRAVE

I will support him for he has brought security to the Land. Where I was born and where I will die. It's too late to complain and argue war is coming and is near. I know Bush will bring us through. Becuase he is my president.
 obi
03-12-2003, 10:14 PM
#2
Whats this? A supporter for Bush?


A rare site these days, though I'm one myself.


However, I don't view the other side's opinions as making them crybabies. I just think they have a purpose as well as we do, and no one knows who is right and who is wrong.
 Father Torque
03-12-2003, 10:16 PM
#3
i too am a Bush suporter:D
 Boba Rhett
03-13-2003, 12:28 AM
#4
I too like G-Bu.
 ET Warrior
03-13-2003, 12:36 AM
#5
While I think that George Bush is quite unintelligent, and probably not the best president we've ever had, he still is doing what he feels is necessary, and I quite frankly don't think he's a war monger.....i'll bet the public doesn't know 1/100th of the stuff that G.W. knows about the situation in Iraq, all they get is what they can find in the media.
 Vestril
03-13-2003, 12:52 AM
#6
I was just going to post one thing...but I couldn't resist, what with all the people I knew in this thread...

Ok, so Bush isn't as bad as I thought he would be at first...my initial opinions were formed when I was in a fairly...Democratic environment (AKA a University known for its parties :p), he's easy to make fun of since he is a pretty mediocre public speaker...he gets points for passion, but loses major points for technical ability ;).

However, he chose pretty good people to support and advise him, which is a lot more than I can say for Overlord CLIN-TON, so I can't really bash him much. As for the war, I pretty much agree that it would be best for it to just get over with, I mean, it's pretty clear that it's going to happen, so what the heck...

I was talking to an old friend of mine, however, and he persuaded me that North Korea should be Bush's focus...

Ok, I understand that Iraq is a much more clear enemy, and what's more it's in the middle east, which is where the enemy who masterminded one of this country's grander tragedies hails from, so it makes for a more poigniant target, however, Iraq isn't as dangerous a threat!! North Korea quite probably has missiles capable of reaching the West Coast already, and speaking as someone who lives in San Diego, a ripe target as you should know, I would rather them contained than Iraq.

While I don't think that the UN inspectors will really do much to disarm Iraq, I think that that public pressure is enough to harry them, and the time and enery that has been spent into war with Iraq really would have been better spent preparing for war with Korea.

This is really more of an opening line...I'm curious to see if anyone else has any opinions on the matter...

To summarize...I think Bush is OK, but pointing his gun at the wrong target...
 Loki GM
03-13-2003, 12:59 AM
#7
I really dont like bush for getting us into this mess but now that it is unavoidable I will support the war and the people that I know that are over there.
 Weapon X
03-13-2003, 1:07 AM
#8
Originally posted by TheHobGoblin
First this isn't "Bash the president central!" I'm supporting him, so this is for the Bush supporters. I'm making my stand. War is here already. We're to deep in this situation. It's gonna happen You know it. Now I don't have enough credits for attachments so I'll just make it with the words.



Bush Is Our President
The supporters keep America going

Cry babies don't

Take a hike cry baby

America home of the BRAVE

I will support him for he has brought security to the Land. Where I was born and where I will die. It's too late to complain and argue war is coming and is near. I know Bush will bring us through. Becuase he is my president.

i have two of my best childhood friends in kuwait and baghdad right now, 2-3 more are going to marine boot camp this summer, my brother was lucky enough to get out on medical (they reinjured his knee) or he'd be over there too, i also have a friend in virginia who might go over if it gets too bad. bush is a bad man, i never wanted him as president and now that he's ****in w/a hornet's nest we'll see what happens, many people will die, and you support that? do you have anyone close to you in the military? in the frontlines? i do, and i do NOT want this war to happen, it's a VERY bad idea and i have no idea why you want it, how old are you? cuz i used to be like "yeah lets go kill some bad guys!" but now that i'm older i THINK about what i say, if you DO have someone close to you in the frontlines i feel sorry for them cuz YOU are a bad person and wish to send some of your FELLOW COUNTRYMEN to their deaths so bush can "rid the world of evil" i'll bet someone makes an attempt on bush's life, they should and miss on purpose so he thinks about that **** more thoroughly, i hope YOU go over there and see what it's like, sure we'll win, but not w/o the cost of young lives


EDIT: there's a fine line between bravery and stupidity, bush crossed that line, our MILITARY is brave for actually putting up w/those orders, not the people who sit on their asses at home saying "LET'S GO TO WAR I'M READY!" and you're safely at home eating chips or sandwiches or something like that while you watch "your" countrymen put their lives on the line so you can go on w/your life

also, if bush is so smart and great, why is he gonna fund iraq troops for rebuilding when oil is so high and he could make prices lower for us, help out his own country or the one we just beat the hell out of, that's also one of my problems w/him

now i will leave this thread and not come back to read what you have to say, so you know my opinion and since you support war i dont' care to hear yours




Real mature, Anakin. Real mature. :rolleyes: -rhett
 Rogue15
03-13-2003, 1:10 AM
#9
I think NK is next after Iraq. Wouldn't it kindof be a waste of money to have to send the troops and stuff back home when the job is only half done?
 Rogue Nine
03-13-2003, 1:14 AM
#10
I support Bush in pretty much every aspect of his adminstration, save for his foreign policy. This whole situation doesn't score him any points from me.
 ET Warrior
03-13-2003, 1:16 AM
#11
Ummmm, isn't it kind of silly to be pissed that they are in a military situation when they JOINED the military in the first place? I mean seriously, what do you think the military is for?:confused:

And i'll tell you mr ep2 anakin, NONE OF US WANT WAR. BUSH doesn't want war. But it's GOING TO HAPPEN.

No, I suppose you're right, let's just sit back, and let Saddam Hussein murder countless innocents with his horrible chemical weapons, and then I say let North Korea start nuking people. What the hell, just so long as our MILITARY doesn't have to do any MILITARY activities.....sounds like a good plan.:rolleyes:
 Boba Rhett
03-13-2003, 1:28 AM
#12
Exactly, ET. Those men and women joined the military for a reason. They volunteered to defend my country. They weren't pulled form there homes at gunpoint and shipped over there.

You're talking as if anybody who supports the war is either immature or hasn't stopped to think this out. Which is, ironically, not well thought out. I'm sure there are people like that but many of us are not that way.

And I don't care if you have very strong opinions about these matters. Many of us do but we don't get immature about it. You will respect your fellow members of this forum or your opinion is not going to be heard here at all.
 Father Torque
03-13-2003, 1:45 AM
#13
Originally posted by ep2 Anakin
i have two of my best childhood friends in kuwait and baghdad right now, 2-3 more are going to marine boot camp this summer, my brother was lucky enough to get out on medical (they reinjured his knee) or he'd be over there too, i also have a friend in virginia who might go over if it gets too bad. bush is a bad man, i never wanted him as president and now that he's ****in w/a hornet's nest we'll see what happens, many people will die, and you support that? do you have anyone close to you in the military? in the frontlines? i do, and i do NOT want this war to happen, it's a VERY bad idea and i have no idea why you want it, how old are you? cuz i used to be like "yeah lets go kill some bad guys!" but now that i'm older i THINK about what i say, if you DO have someone close to you in the frontlines i feel sorry for them cuz YOU are a bad person and wish to send some of your FELLOW COUNTRYMEN to their deaths so bush can "rid the world of evil" i'll bet someone makes an attempt on bush's life, they should and miss on purpose so he thinks about that **** more thoroughly, i hope YOU go over there and see what it's like, sure we'll win, but not w/o the cost of young lives


EDIT: there's a fine line between bravery and stupidity, bush crossed that line, our MILITARY is brave for actually putting up w/those orders, not the people who sit on their asses at home saying "LET'S GO TO WAR I'M READY!" and you're safely at home eating chips or sandwiches or something like that while you watch "your" countrymen put their lives on the line so you can go on w/your life

also, if bush is so smart and great, why is he gonna fund iraq troops for rebuilding when oil is so high and he could make prices lower for us, help out his own country or the one we just beat the hell out of, that's also one of my problems w/him

now i will leave this thread and not come back to read what you have to say, so you know my opinion and since you support war i dont' care to hear yours




Real mature, Anakin. Real mature. :rolleyes: -rhett

What do you mean they are brave because they follow his orders. You have to realize that He has to think not only about America but the whole world. Its quite obvisious judging the evidence of crulty that Sadhamm Hussen has done to people over the past century. he has slaughtered and massacared hundreds of people. What do people mean when they say "There is no evidence on any weapons in Iraq. 17 empty nuclear warheads found. Ring a bell in yo ear people. You cant sit here and tell me that some idiots from who nows where found empty warheads and his them in Iraq. You and I both know its bologna. Back to bush. Who cares if he cant say a few words or prounounce a couple. Look at you guys you sit at your computer all day at a forum which will never have you succed to anything. You have no responsiblity. He has to handle Millions of people. Do you think he wants war. NO of course not, but its the only way out of this terrorism mess. And on 9/11. What does this crap mean. Oh he doesnt care about anything woe is me, he is a horrible president because he cant say, "w". Ahhhhhhhh he hates america. That is just crap crap crap crap crap. Now ET couldnt be more clear he is right on. People sometimes join the military because of courage. bravery and the honor to hold and fight for the US and some are drafted. But when ya think about it, how did we become a nation. Britan didnt just say ok sure that cool. There was WAR. And now is not the time to win with words because words dont work in the real world. You have to go through pain sometimes to get what you want. Also would you rather have the USA die and have your 2 friends live or have America 600+ million people live and have 2 friends risk there lives. Do the math i hope you get the right answer. ALSO all you non-bush people who cares if he cant say stuff or pronounce words. He is an impecable president and i dont think ANYONE can give me an INTELEGENT reason on why he is a bad president.

Oooooh and Anakin if your so mature and grown up why is a 12 year old telling you this stuff. Not all kids ar WAR freaks. And also if youre so intelegent and old and mature why cant you face up to the fact that just because your friends are on the frontline and were sending them to Iraq to save a WHOLE other people are BAD. Why dont you just leave LF because were all BAD PEOPLE. If i had a dear friend on the frontline i would be supporting him, not moaning about YOU. Thats all it is its about YOU and YOUR fellings noby elses. People like you make me disgusted.

Also Anakin its people like you who sit on your but and cry about your problems on a fun and opinionated forum. Why dont you get off you're but enroll and save a country. Your friends and others have a better chance of dying if we go to war. If no war. Sadam will nuke us all kill 6 billion people and the earth will be no more. Are you willing to distor gods great creation for your benefit i hope not. Also im underaged, but i sure as hell would support my country in these horrible times. I would rather die than see 6 billion people die.

-Father Torque
 Pedantic
03-13-2003, 2:04 AM
#14
Wow, I didn't know so many people liked Bush here. :) Well, I would be one of his supporters here, and come the next presidental election, he's getting my vote. :)
 Father Torque
03-13-2003, 2:07 AM
#15
I vote YES for bush in 2004:D

Hei s a great president and i will hope to see him as President come next election. I hope Al doesnt run. Now he is a bonehead.
 RoguePhotonic
03-13-2003, 2:22 AM
#16
America home of the BRAVE

I'm not gonna start any fight but I have to say that this statement is probably the worst I have ever heard.......
 Pedantic
03-13-2003, 2:26 AM
#17
Originally posted by RoguePhotonic
I'm not gonna start any fight but I have to say that this statement is probably the worst I have ever heard.......

It might help if you could elaborate as to why you feel that way. :)
 Luc Solar
03-13-2003, 3:30 AM
#18
Oh FFS!

You Americans really need to stop talking about stuff like Bravery, Honor, Freedom etc.

We all got that. Every country has the bravest most honourable soldiers. We all got "freedom".

Just please stop already. It sounds so silly.

America is a country filled with normal people. You are not more handsome, more beautiful, more talented, wiser or intelligent than the rest of the civilized world.

And if you talk about "honor", why not visit...Japan for instance and then talk about your superhuman "honor" with or without the "u".

News flash: While you bask in the glory of the greatness of your people and country, the rest of the world thinks of Americans as nothing but Arrogant, Dumb and Fat.

Don't get me wrong: that's not an insult, that is the stereotype.


EDIT: quoting ET Warrior: (hope you don't mind..)

I personally think that a LOT of the world's problems today are direct results of nationalism. People are too proud of their country and their country is more important than other countries.
 RoguePhotonic
03-13-2003, 4:28 AM
#19
Originally posted by Pedantic
It might help if you could elaborate as to why you feel that way. :)

Because America has proven that it's full of nothing but pathetic cowards...and most other country's are brave as ****...
 Darth Groovy
03-13-2003, 4:47 AM
#20
Frankly the boy scares me. I had a bad vibe about him from the beginning, which is why I voted against him. He got elected, and he was willing to work with the democrats, so I decided to give him a fair chance. After all, being a veteran, I tend to respect our chief in charge regardless of who or what he is. I do however feel sorry for him having to deal with waiting for months to find out if he was elected and then the shortly after... 9/11. No leader should ever have to endure that, ever...

It seems rather comical that we found more fault in Bill Clinton's sex life, than that of Bush, who has been convicted of DUI's. I guess sex in the oval office is considered worse than getting behind the wheel under the influence... ahh, standards.... Yet the media just can't seem to dig up any dirt on GeeDubya, it fanct they make him look like the modern day John Wayne. This just goes to emphasize that the media itself is a tool to the republican party. I have experienced this first hand.

His solutions to the economy, leave much left to be desired. Here, have $300 of the $3000 you gave us last year and go out and buy something.... what? Gasoline?!?! All he has done is shuffle funds around and make avarage person think they are getting something.... when all we are really getting is a climbing unemployment rate. And when the unemployment rate increases, so does crime. The real war folks is on American soil, but noooooooo let's have a go at those Iraqis which brings me to my next point:

His foreign policy is horrible, he treats the middle east as if it was a right wing protest. The middle east has been killing each other for years, I GUARENTEE they are ready for us, and I am certain that Saddam Has a surprise for us.

I really don't see how going after Saddam Hussein is going to solve anything. Iraq is a country full of young people who fire an AK-47 before they learn to ride a bicycle. I agree the guy should be removed, but then what? Do we decide who the next leader is? Do we take it upon ourselves to correct years worth of economic and social damage the country has evolved into? I try to look at this from the long term aspect. The way I see it, we should not go at Iraq alone. Also, the more he challanges allied countries with this "with me or against me" attitude of his, the more respect I loose for him.

Please do not insult me for my opinions, but I do not support Bush, I still feel deep down he is wanting to finish what his father started, and I don't feel he is working to avoid war, he believes that war is the only solution, and in my opinion, war is never a solution, only a tragic ending. But then again, how can the former governor of the death penalty capitol of the US possibley be concerned about the loss of civillian lives?

Oh yeah and ladies and gentlemen.... I give you our president:

http://chadsux.com/binocs_bc.jpg)

Now you really want this man to lead us to war? Not me, but I bet he would make a great talk show host.

_DG
 swphreak
03-13-2003, 7:00 AM
#21
DG, I heard that photo was fake, but not sure. And I've seen that before a looong time ago.

I guess he's ok. I don't know if I support support him, but he's our president. You people who voted put him there. If you don't like him, why don't you vote him out of office or something?

And like Luc says. Too much nationalism is bad. We weren't the only ones hurt in 9/11. Other countries were hurt too. their people were killed too. Why are we still making a fuss over it? The other countries have stopped making a fuss over it. We should still go after Osama and kick his ass for what he did, but let it go.

And I agree that Japan could argue that's "honor" is better than ours, and I'd believe them.....

but Bush is our president, and may god be wth us all......
 ckcsaber
03-13-2003, 7:26 AM
#22
Originally posted by Luc Solar

News flash: While you bask in the glory of the greatness of your people and country, the rest of the world thinks of Americans as nothing but Arrogant, Dumb and Fat.



They are jealous. Our country is better off than theirs, plain and simple. And if they think Americans as a whole are dumb, they are in for a suprise!
 greedo626
03-13-2003, 7:35 AM
#23
first of all, I support my country and its government. I have no special affection for Bush but he is my president. and while I may disagree with some of the things he did/is doing/will do, I still support him more than I don't.

secondly: Originally posted by Darth Groovy
http://chadsux.com/binocs_bc.jpg)

I wish people would stop showing this picture and saying "there, you see? Bush is a idiot and he doesn't know the difference between having the lense caps on or off." well I've got news for you, Bush has x-ray vision. and he used that vision to look into Saddam's soul. and Saddam's soul is... evil:devscare:

seriously though, he put the binoculars up to his eye's, realized the lense caps were on, and took them off. someone just snapped a photo just as they got to his eyes.
 Luc Solar
03-13-2003, 7:51 AM
#24
Originally posted by ckcsaber
They are jealous. Our country is better off than theirs, plain and simple.

Ermm... yeah...ok...whatever. :rolleyes:

I happen to live in a country where health care is free, schools are free and the social security system is top of the world.

The world economic forum just chose Finland as the most advanced information society. (USA is second, Singapore and Sweden 3rd and 4th.)

We don't have ridiculous lawsuits. We don't have crime. We don't have drugs. We don't have terrorists. We don't have corruption. (the same goes pretty much for the whole Scandinavia)

I can not think of a single reason why I'd be jealous of Americans. (apart from the fact that as a lawyer I would surely make tons of money there :D )

But since you were surely only kidding, I have no need to rant on. ;)

Btw. The "dumb fat and arrogant"-stereotype is something that will not likely fade away as long as Mr. Bush is president.

Oh-oh! Can I add one more? --> Arrogant, Dumb, Fat and Superficial! :D

Please do not think I'm insulting anyone. Think of my post as if it was just another blonde-joke.


Ps. How do you get an one-armed blonde down from a tree?
Answer: By waving to her. :D
 Mex
03-13-2003, 8:33 AM
#25
Originally posted by TheHobGoblin
America home of the BRAVE

Sorry, but that is so untrue.
I live in the UK and I don't post threads about Tony Blair and that I think that the UK is the best country in the world do I? So why should you.
 Mex
03-13-2003, 8:39 AM
#26
Originally posted by ckcsaber
They are jealous. Our country is better off than theirs, plain and simple. And if they think Americans as a whole are dumb, they are in for a suprise!

That is not true, I don't know why some of you Americans think you are special for living in America, I could go move over there if I wanted, and I wouldnt like I can flame any person here.

By the way, I said some, that means not all of you.
 griff38
03-13-2003, 9:11 AM
#27
Grrrrrrrr

George bush is at best the most un-elected president this nation has ever had. At worst he is an illegal president handed the most powerful position ever held by a single human being by appointed officals. The truth is likely somewhere in between.

I do no not support bush, he makes me ashamed to be a U.S. citizen. He does not represent U.S. citizens, he represents the rich and powerful buisnesses that he is part of.
I could go on & on about how his low brow, provencial, black & white "yer with us or against us!" attititude is demeaning to the office he holds but i won't here 2day.

It never ceases to amaze me how armchair warriors like him (he never servered in the military) are ready to send us to fight for their personal interest. It is in the interest of weapons manufactures & oil companies that we are going to Iraq.
If you think it has anything to do with WMD you really are misinformed. Back before the Gulf war, Bush Sr. said Iraq was the 4th most powerful military in the world, and we smacked them down without even trying. They have yet to get back on their feet. Iraq has never been a threat to the United States. Its's a pathetic joke to pretend they are.

LUC SOLAR, please let me apologize for the insults some of my fellow U.S. citizens have hurled your way. Trust me, their are tons of us who know the countless contributions France has given the human race, and glad they are resisting bushes tyranny.
OK, just getting warmed up. But i have a busy day so I will let some REAL Presidents tell you like it is.

Washington, Jefferson, Madison & Monroe are rolling in their graves.

QUOTES FROM REAL PRESIDENTS

The essence of Government is power; and power, lodged as it must be in human hands, will ever be liable to abuse.
James Madison


The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home.
James Madison


The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted.
James Madison

Preparation for war is a constant stimulus to suspicion and ill will.
James Monroe

All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to = remain silent.
Thomas Jefferson


War is an instrument entirely inefficient toward redressing wrong; and multiplies, instead of indemnifying losses.
Thomas Jefferson
 ckcsaber
03-13-2003, 9:23 AM
#28
Jeez, I don't want this to turn into a flame war, so i'll just say this.

I love America, and all of you badmouthing it are just looking at if from the outside.
 griff38
03-13-2003, 9:39 AM
#29
Originally posted by ckcsaber
Jeez, I don't want this to turn into a flame war, so i'll just say this.

I love America, and all of you badmouthing it are just looking at if from the outside.



I live in Florida dude, last time i checked that was part of the U.S.

and I do not consider anything i said as a flame, but instead a heat shield against unfair U.S. bullies.
 swphreak
03-13-2003, 9:43 AM
#30
I agree with saber on that.
 Breton
03-13-2003, 10:32 AM
#31
Originally posted by Father Torque
You have to realize that He has to think not only about America but the whole world.

He doesn't give a damn about the rest of the world, just listen to his speeches.

What do people mean when they say "There is no evidence on any weapons in Iraq. 17 empty nuclear warheads found.

Riiiight...hasn't been found any nuclear warheads in Iraq as far as I or anyone except you can recall. If you rather belive your silly little president than the weapon inspectors who says themselves that they haven't found any WoMDs in Iraq, then that's your problem.

. Look at you guys you sit at your computer all day at a forum which will never have you succed to anything. You have no responsiblity. He has to handle Millions of people.

1. I do have some responsiblity.
2. Who cares if he has to handle millions of people as long as he stinks at it?

Do you think he wants war. NO of course not,

:rofl: He has been pushing for war all the time, and shows himself as not the slightest interested in peace.

but its the only way out of this terrorism mess

Terrorists cannot be fought with bombs, bombs will only make them more angry and more people.

Ahhhhhhhh he hates america.

A lot of people does, because of people like Bush.

But when ya think about it, how did we become a nation. Britan didnt just say ok sure that cool. There was WAR.

And does that make you braver than the 150+ other countries that had to fight to be a nation? And you would've been slaughtered without the French at your side anyway.

You have to go through pain sometimes to get what you want.

But a war with Iraq will only cause more pain, I am suprised how few have managed to see this.

Also would you rather have the USA die and have your 2 friends live or have America 600+ million people live and have 2 friends risk there lives

Right now Saddam is not a direct threat against US. He's not dumb enough to attack you. You are assuming too much and you're defidently overestimating Saddam.

or have America 600+ million people live

Slept through the geography classes, di yeh? There are only about 280 million people in US. I'm suprised you didn't know that...well, not that suprised.

He is an impecable president and i dont think ANYONE can give me an INTELEGENT reason on why he is a bad president.

Perhaps because you won't listen to them. I can give you some:

-He uses bribes and threats to get votes in the security council

-He still belives in good and evil

-He threathens France and UN for not agreeing with him 100%

-He doesn't like gun control, even though the lack of it is killing over 11,000 people each year.

-He belives Americans are more worth than other people.

-Saddam offers to debate with him, but Bush refuses. There you see how "brave" your president is.

-Bush also doesn't bother to try debating with France.

-He says "Iraq has WoMDs" even though there is no proof they have.

-"War on terrorism"

Now I've given you lots of reasons on why he's a bad president, so perhaps you might give me a few on why he is a good president...if you can, that is.

And also if youre so intelegent and old and mature why cant you face up to the fact that just because your friends are on the frontline and were sending them to Iraq to save a WHOLE other people are BAD.

You are truly overestimating Saddam.

If i had a dear friend on the frontline i would be supporting him, not moaning about YOU. Thats all it is its about YOU and YOUR fellings noby elses. People like you make me disgusted.


Do you care anything about other countries than your own? I just don't get why we would have to go to war now anyway, I mean, Saddam is disarming after all, isn't he? It can take some months to disarm him fully, but that's worth it.

Why dont you get off you're but enroll and save a country. Your friends and others have a better chance of dying if we go to war. If no war. Sadam will nuke us all kill 6 billion people and the earth will be no more. Are you willing to distor gods great creation for your benefit i hope not. Also im underaged, but i sure as hell would support my country in these horrible times. I would rather die than see 6 billion people die.

If I were you, I'd put more attention to this conflict, it does not seem you know very much about it. Saddam does not have nukes, and even if he had, he wouldn't be dumb enough to use them, unless you make him do it, wich you can simply do by going to war with him. You seem to think Saddam is going to be the end of the world if we don't stop him, and that's, soory to say it, BS.

i'll bet the public doesn't know 1/100th of the stuff that G.W. knows about the situation in Iraq,

But if so, why doesn't he tell about this to UN? To the security council? To the weapon inspectors?

And i'll tell you mr ep2 anakin, NONE OF US WANT WAR. BUSH doesn't want war. But it's GOING TO HAPPEN.

Bush is one of the few who actually wants war. He says he doesn't, and that's probably why you belive him. But I beg you not to look at his words, but to look at his actions. He didn't like weapon inspectors in the first place, and has alway been obsessed with telling everyone how evil Saddam is and that the only way to disarm him is through war.

Exactly, ET. Those men and women joined the military for a reason. They volunteered to defend my country. They weren't pulled form there homes at gunpoint and shipped over there.

What has this to do with defending your country? If you didn't know it, they are going to attack, not defend.

You're talking as if anybody who supports the war is either immature or hasn't stopped to think this out. Which is, ironically, not well thought out. I'm sure there are people like that but many of us are not that way.

There are dumb people at both sides.

And I don't care if you have very strong opinions about these matters. Many of us do but we don't get immature about it. You will respect your fellow members of this forum or your opinion is not going to be heard here at all.

I do notice that you haven't commented the imatureness or certain other posts, wich suspiciously are supporting Bush...though Anakin's post was slightly immature too.

They are jealous. Our country is better off than theirs, plain and simple.

Ok....:rolleyes:

I love America, and all of you badmouthing it are just looking at if from the outside.

But what you fail to realise is that we're not badmouthing the country, but the goverment. And don't say that's the same thing, because it isn't, far from it.

America home of the BRAVE

:lol: Funny. Not saying more than that.
 Nitro
03-13-2003, 11:04 AM
#32
I'm a Canadian Army Reservist. My unit was activated and put on alert, meaning my ass will most likely be on the line when we go in. I don't have a death wish, but I support this war with every bone in my body. Saddam needs gone. His party needs gone. I don't care if he does disarm... The bastard kills more civillians in a day than we ever would if we invaded.

Iraq needs a new government, and no amount of destroyed weapons will change that, and I'm proud as hell to be a part of making Iraq a better place to live.
 greedo626
03-13-2003, 11:24 AM
#33
Originally posted by Nitro
I'm a Canadian Army Reservist. My unit was activated and put on alert, meaning my ass will most likely be on the line when we go in. I don't have a death wish, but I support this war with every bone in my body. Saddam needs gone. His party needs gone. I don't care if he does disarm... The bastard kills more civillians in a day than we ever would if we invaded.

Iraq needs a new government, and no amount of destroyed weapons will change that, and I'm proud as hell to be a part of making Iraq a better place to live.

holy crap:eek: , a Canadian that supports a war with Iraq :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: . now I really have seen everything:D.
 Bob Gnarly
03-13-2003, 11:34 AM
#34
i dont support any of this, because firsy of all my grand parents live in syria which is right beside iraq and second because George Bush has a stuped idea in his head that America owns the whole world, if you've ever seen the music video in a world called catastrophe then thats excactly what i feel, if you support him today for oil! tomorrow he'll be after china for........sushi!?!
 El Sitherino
03-13-2003, 11:41 AM
#35
Originally posted by ckcsaber
Jeez, I don't want this to turn into a flame war, so i'll just say this.

I love America, and all of you badmouthing it are just looking at if from the outside. im an american citizen and i dislike america just as much as the others so.... BLEAH! and that image that groovy showed isnt a fake it was in the newspapers a few weeks ago here in my city(i guess they didnt notice) i dislike all of bush's plans, hes screwing up the economy by doing his shuffling of money and his foreign policy is CRAP.
 -s/<itzo-
03-13-2003, 12:02 PM
#36
The elimination of the "evil-doers" is a must.
 swphreak
03-13-2003, 12:07 PM
#37
If you thinkk Bush is a bad President, Why don't you vote him out or whatever crap voters can do?
 -s/<itzo-
03-13-2003, 12:17 PM
#38
Originally posted by StarWarsPhreak
If you thinkk Bush is a bad President, Why don't you vote him out or whatever crap voters can do?

Who are you refering to...?
 TK-99
03-13-2003, 12:27 PM
#39
all this war crap is sounding alot like that movie called ''Hot Shots 2'' lol, still im not supportinganyone here because ill ask this ''Douse anybody want World War III to happen?'' and if america douse attack iraq who knows they might attack america back too
 KOTOR*KAMA
03-13-2003, 12:31 PM
#40
man america isnt gona be along much longer cuz we are matched this time but i guess i will have to step in wiht my light saber hahahaa
 ckcsaber
03-13-2003, 12:33 PM
#41
America plans to take Iraq out completly. They will not leave Iraq behind with any form of retaliation.
 swphreak
03-13-2003, 12:34 PM
#42
Originally posted by -s/<itzo-
Who are you refering to...?

I was referring to all the US voters that oppose Bush
 Darth Groovy
03-13-2003, 1:50 PM
#43
Originally posted by greedo626
first of all, I support my country and its government. I have no special affection for Bush but he is my president. and while I may disagree with some of the things he did/is doing/will do, I still support him more than I don't.

secondly:
I wish people would stop showing this picture and saying "there, you see? Bush is a idiot and he doesn't know the difference between having the lense caps on or off." well I've got news for you, Bush has x-ray vision. and he used that vision to look into Saddam's soul. and Saddam's soul is... evil:devscare:

seriously though, he put the binoculars up to his eye's, realized the lense caps were on, and took them off. someone just snapped a photo just as they got to his eyes.

Riiiiiiiiiight, and I surpose he's going to use his spider senses to win one for the good old red white and blue.....

I never said he was an idiot, but he is wreckless. A loose cannon if you will, and his blatent disregaurd for countries who oppose his plans for war, cannot and simply will not be ignored.

About the pic....hey they picked apart Bill Clinton's life with an electron microscope, wether it was a mistake or not, all is fair in love and war. When your president, you are in the lime light, candidates know this when they run for office. But I am not as concerned about the pic, as I am about his cowboy attitude towards the middle east.America plans to take Iraq out completly. They will not leave Iraq behind with any form of retaliation.

And judging how my country has acted in the past, we will probably also leave them with no leadership, government or supplies of any kind. We will just go in with guns a blazin' bomb the bejeezus out of them and let them pic through the cinders and put their own lifes back together in the name of freedom. The civillians in Iraq will suffer as well......

war....

*shakes head and walks away*
 ckcsaber
03-13-2003, 2:23 PM
#44
Originally posted by Darth Groovy
And judging how my country has acted in the past, we will probably also leave them with no leadership, government or supplies of any kind. We will just go in with guns a blazin' bomb the bejeezus out of them and let them pic through the cinders and put their own lifes back together in the name of freedom. The civillians in Iraq will suffer as well......


The UN is trying to figure that part out, but the US is just disarming
 Breton
03-13-2003, 2:28 PM
#45
Originally posted by StarWarsPhreak
If you thinkk Bush is a bad President, Why don't you vote him out or whatever crap voters can do?

If I could, I would. But I'm neither an US citizen nor old enough to vote.
 SupremePain
03-13-2003, 3:49 PM
#46
Originally posted by ckcsaber
They are jealous. Our country is better off than theirs, plain and simple. And if they think Americans as a whole are dumb, they are in for a suprise!
LMAO:eek: you think America is a rich country? i dont have any problem with Americans but i do with the american system... and as for Bush: the apple dosent fall far from the tree, his father made the people of Iraq rebel againts Saddam, he promised to back them up, but what did he do? he bailed on them and Saddam Hussein slaugthered them for betraying him, Bush is in my opinion not fit as a preisedent at all... i agree with that Saddam needs to be stopped but launching a war is not the awnser, WAR IS NEVER THE AWNSER.... many innocent civilience will die, i am proud of Germany and France and other countrys that says no to help Bush out in the war, my own country (Denmark) supports Bush in the war
 obi
03-13-2003, 4:23 PM
#47
I've read some posts in here that I didn't really care for, but let me say this as a general statement:

America is a world power, like it or not. We have been for over 100 years.

America sure has had somethings in it's past, put we are not the only ones. Want to critisize someone's past? Go to Britain, they are full of it. (past events, that is)

I myself, choose not to look at the past to critisize, but instead to learn from.

Now, I love being in America, because here, I have many opporotunities (sp?) to do things that in other countries I could not. Go read a Bible over in some middle-eastern country. Read it in public. I dare you.

If you want to say something bad about AMERICA, then you are dead wrong. Saying something about the government is different. Don't bash the country, or else you are just bashing the people that live in it.

There, I feel better now. :)
 ckcsaber
03-13-2003, 4:30 PM
#48
Originally posted by obi-wan13
I've read some posts in here that I didn't really care for, but let me say this as a general statement:

America is a world power, like it or not. We have been for over 100 years.

America sure has had somethings in it's past, put we are not the only ones. Want to critisize someone's past? Go to Britain, they are full of it. (past events, that is)

I myself, choose not to look at the past to critisize, but instead to learn from.

Now, I love being in America, because here, I have many opporotunities (sp?) to do things that in other countries I could not. Go read a Bible over in some middle-eastern country. Read it in public. I dare you.

If you want to say something bad about AMERICA, then you are dead wrong. Saying something about the government is different. Don't bash the country, or else you are just bashing the people that live in it.

There, I feel better now. :)


:clap2:

Bravo. I feel the same way Obi
 SupremePain
03-13-2003, 4:33 PM
#49
Originally posted by obi-wan13
I've read some posts in here that I didn't really care for, but let me say this as a general statement:

America is a world power, like it or not. We have been for over 100 years.

America sure has had somethings in it's past, put we are not the only ones. Want to critisize someone's past? Go to Britain, they are full of it. (past events, that is)

I myself, choose not to look at the past to critisize, but instead to learn from.

Now, I love being in America, because here, I have many opporotunities (sp?) to do things that in other countries I could not. Go read a Bible over in some middle-eastern country. Read it in public. I dare you.

If you want to say something bad about AMERICA, then you are dead wrong. Saying something about the government is different. Don't bash the country, or else you are just bashing the people that live in it.

There, I feel better now. :)
ARRGGHHH! this is anoying i REALY dont hope this the typical americans opinion.... is it?
 obi
03-13-2003, 4:38 PM
#50
Originally posted by SupremePain
ARRGGHHH! this is anoying i REALY dont hope this the typical americans opinion.... is it?

How in the wide world of sports is that annoying?

Ok, I'm going to bash everyone that lives in your country.


I hope you idiots go and have fun doing idiotic things. I hope you idiots jump off of a cliff and die.

THAT is annoying, and THAT is like stuff I have read, and I was directing my message to people who were bashing America as a whole.

Tell me how my message was annoying.
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