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WIP: Count Dooku model (with cape ;) )

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 EmperorJello
06-17-2002, 4:57 AM
#151
Actually, Jocasta Nu was supposed to explain to Obi-Wan about Dooku and the Lost Twenty, but the scene was cut in interests of time.

So many informative scenes were cut... it's sad, really.
 nucular_jedi_14
06-17-2002, 5:27 AM
#152
dang why did they have to cut them!LoL
 SirYawnalot
06-17-2002, 5:44 AM
#153
Well like the Yokel, I only saw the film, didn't read the novels or anything. However it was quite clear to me that Sifo Dyas was not Dooku. For a start, Kenobi obviously recognised who Dooku was, but in his report he never stated that Dooku was Sifo Dyas. For another thing... you say Dooku faked his death so he could leave the Jedi Order and start a life as a Dark Jedi. Then WHY exactly would Dooku have rejoined the Jedi, only to leave again?? There's obviously something screwy about Sifo Dyas though, maybe he's actually Palpatine/Sidious. That would explain how he first met Dooku, and how Sidious developed his Force powers.
 nucular_jedi_14
06-17-2002, 5:47 AM
#154
check it out at www.jediknightii.net) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Pnut_Man
06-17-2002, 9:56 AM
#155
Like i said before, hows the ep2 dooku model coming along....hehe..
 Grafox
06-17-2002, 2:55 PM
#156
Originally posted by Pnut_Master
Like i said before, hows the ep2 dooku model coming along....hehe..
Yeah, I want to know too, but we'll have to wait for Kman, I guess.
 Grafox
06-17-2002, 3:07 PM
#157
Anyways, I was wondering, how far are you guys in making a working glm?
 BradFu
06-17-2002, 3:27 PM
#158
Sifo-Dyas was a seperate Jedi Master, formerly on the council. After he died, Palpatine and/or Dooku ordered the clone army in his name. Dooku is not Sifo-Dyas.

It's pretty clear if you pay close attention. EARLY in the film, they're discussing Dooku. They know him, and they know him AS Dooku. Remember Windu's line about how Dooku can't be involved in the assassination attempt because he was a Jedi? Later, Obi-Wan clearly knows who Sifo-Dyas is, and knows he died over 10 years ago. Dooku's alternate name is Darth Tyrannus.

So essentially, you're all right, though some are only half-right. Sifo-Dyas's name was used by either Dooku or Palpatine, so after a fashion, one of them was Sifo-Dyas.
 Grafox
06-17-2002, 4:18 PM
#159
 nucular_jedi_14
06-17-2002, 4:40 PM
#160
they still look like he shiit him self.....
 Grafox
06-17-2002, 4:42 PM
#161
Well, come with a suggestion on how to improve them then.
 Luuke
06-17-2002, 5:29 PM
#162
looking very good, i like the clothes very much!!!
for the eyes i have a suggestion, although i don't know if that will do it...
yours look like < ( ) > i mean the brown iris is covered by the eyelids at the top AND at the bottom. if you have a closer look at the pic i sent you the iris is only covered by the upper eyelid a bit, but you can see it fully at the bottom like this < U >
and i think your iris (that of your skin ofcourse) should be a little smaller.
 Grafox
06-17-2002, 5:34 PM
#163
 Luuke
06-17-2002, 5:36 PM
#164
better, but the whole iris is still a bit too large

edit: i sent you a mail, to show you what i mean...
pictures say more than 1000 words
 Grafox
06-17-2002, 5:42 PM
#165
But look, this is what you get when the iris is smaller:
http://home.quicknet.nl/qn/prive/j.hagmeijer/irissmall.jpg)
 Luuke
06-17-2002, 5:44 PM
#166
well, just make him look down a bit, should work
 Grafox
06-17-2002, 5:46 PM
#167
 Luuke
06-17-2002, 5:47 PM
#168
U GOT IT!!! looking good now





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you're welcome!
 Grafox
06-17-2002, 5:48 PM
#169
Good, thanks for the help.
 Sinister1
06-17-2002, 5:53 PM
#170
Impressive work!
 SirYawnalot
06-17-2002, 6:26 PM
#171
Ohh man!!! The skin is *perfect*!! Exactly what I imagine a younger version of Dooku would look like. Just make sure you get the animations right-- he's a very lordly character so he's got to have a noble, powerful stance. None of this slouchiness we see with the in-game JK2 models. And I'm getting this horrible feeling that I'm kind of dictating what to do, so I'll shut up now before it gets any worse. :p
 Grafox
06-17-2002, 6:41 PM
#172
Originally posted by SirYawnalot
Ohh man!!! The skin is *perfect*!! Exactly what I imagine a younger version of Dooku would look like. Just make sure you get the animations right-- he's a very lordly character so he's got to have a noble, powerful stance. None of this slouchiness we see with the in-game JK2 models. And I'm getting this horrible feeling that I'm kind of dictating what to do, so I'll shut up now before it gets any worse. :p
Thanks!

About the animations: We cannot give the model other animations then the default JK2 ones. Simply because of the fact that it is impossible unless you have SoftImage, a kind of high priced piece of software ($ 4000 wasn't it??)
 remark 666
06-17-2002, 11:18 PM
#173
Originally posted by Grafox

Thanks!

About the animations: We cannot give the model other animations then the default JK2 ones. Simply because of the fact that it is impossible unless you have SoftImage, a kind of high priced piece of software ($ 4000 wasn't it??)

*cough*KaZaA*cough*


and it does look very good (bot hthe model and the skin) but the lips (on the skin) look really weird, makes him look gay (yes, the gay you're thinking off right now) ;)
 morphius_doh
06-17-2002, 11:23 PM
#174
Why not use a refereance photo and apply it to the model.
 Grafox
06-17-2002, 11:32 PM
#175
Originally posted by remark 666


*cough*KaZaA*cough*



*cough*Still, I won't know how to use it*cough*


Originally posted by remark 666


but the lips (on the skin) look really weird, makes him look gay (yes, the gay you're thinking off right now) ;)

And LOL, exactly the gay I am thinking of right now :D
 nucular_jedi_14
06-18-2002, 2:07 AM
#176
looks scared but it defintly looks way better and i'll download it!
 DarthDarth
06-18-2002, 2:20 AM
#177
You have done it, he no longer looks like he crapped himself....he still gives me that high watching birds feeling though, oh well. Maybe if you look at anyone that close in the force they look high. I'm gonna get in peoples face for the next hour to test this, I hope no one beats me up.....

DarthDarth
 Luuke
06-18-2002, 2:26 AM
#178
well, that he's looking up a bit can be easily explained. first it's the perspective of the model, second, when you put the skeleton on the model he will stand like all the other models, which means slightly leaning forward. so with him looking up you will look directly into his "evil" eyes

edit: BTW, i hope Kman will come up with his skin for the OLD familiar dooku soon, but i know he is a really busy man as he is/was working on yoda, maul and aayla, as far as i know. and i'm quite sure he is doing much more.
 SithBrakiss
06-18-2002, 3:17 AM
#179
Originally posted by Grafox


*cough*Still, I won't know how to use it*cough*




i have a instruction manual somewhere.
My cousin owns it and let me read how to use it.
 KMan
06-18-2002, 5:51 AM
#180
 pud1
06-18-2002, 5:59 AM
#181
woooooooooooooow!
that looks great
nothing i see wrong with it, good job ;)
 BradFu
06-18-2002, 6:11 AM
#182
Looks great Kman!!
 Delmar
06-18-2002, 6:57 AM
#183
wow. as far as i can tell that skin is RIGHT on the money
 Luuke
06-18-2002, 7:22 AM
#184
WOW. outstanding work!!! looking very good.
seeing the model skined, i just changed a little bit on my model, only two vertextes. it makes the jawbone a little smaller and so it looks even a bit better! sending it to you right now!
 morphius_doh
06-18-2002, 7:51 AM
#185
All I gotta say is Holy $hit!! This is a kick a$$ model!!
 Darth Crotch
06-18-2002, 8:15 AM
#186
he needs more of a beer belly! =)

still looks awesome though
 FuNiSuK
06-18-2002, 9:03 AM
#187
wow.... didn't think anyone can make him look like the movie one.
 Cookz
06-18-2002, 9:10 AM
#188
When will it be up for d/l?
 peloquin
06-18-2002, 9:15 AM
#189
full on! that rocks great work man :)
 Rory_Vetack
06-18-2002, 9:25 AM
#190
I must say that that is indeed a Great looking model, all we would need to complete it would be a Dooku/Tyranus Sbaer hilt that does not clip....
 Grafox
06-18-2002, 1:04 PM
#191
Looking great kman!
 masterofmayhem
06-18-2002, 1:28 PM
#192
How much longer until this episode 2 Count Dooku (Old looking) is out? It is looking fantastic! Great likeness in that lastest update, excpet i reckon his chain that holds his cape on is silver in the movie, not gold.

Coming packaged with the Dooku lightsaber?

It just hasn't been satisfying using a capeless dooku, even with the right saber!

Looks like i'll get my fix when this comes out!

Now if only someone would do a sweet Emperor Plapatine so i can have Maul, Vader, Dooku and Palps!

I guess it would be a pretty hard model to make though!
 ReIIiK
06-18-2002, 1:37 PM
#193
Wow Kman thats looking awsome, with some alterations to the model it will be like looking at a photo :)
 Grafox
06-18-2002, 3:36 PM
#194
Kman, I have a problem with rendering my model. Perhaps you have solved it already, or perhaps Luuke knows an answer.
When I render the back of my cape, it uses the texture for the inside of the cape (inside=red at yours).

edit:
I think I've found out what is wrong. The basic map is wrong, can you send me the one you used? grafox@quicknet.nl
 Luuke
06-18-2002, 4:03 PM
#195
@ ReIIiK: like i said i already changed the jawbone, because in my opinion that was the clearest difference between my model and the real dooku.

@ Grafox: well, you must wait for an answer by KMan, that's a UVMapping problem and i know nearly nothing anout it.

@ masterofmayhem: the chain is more golden than silver, on some pics it doesn't seem so but that's because of the light. on one promo-pic i have you can see clearly that it is gold

@ Darth Crotch: beer belly?! hehe, you should see him from the side, he HAS a beer belly:D

@ all: thank you for all the kind words. i won't tell you anything about release dates, because a few hours before the date, this thread would be full of "hey it's time" and "gimme gimme", i don't want that. the current status is, that the bot-files are ready, also the taunts. as far as i know we are allowed to include the saber-hilt into our .pk3, the hardest thing will be to get the model into the game, that will come next
 nucular_jedi_14
06-18-2002, 5:06 PM
#196
it's cool to know that we will be geting both an old and young model of dooku!!
 T-Dogg
06-18-2002, 6:17 PM
#197
Dizzam that looks good! Off tha hizzle fo' shizzle!
 Pnut_Man
06-18-2002, 9:03 PM
#198
Updated Picture kicks ass, so accurate to Count Dooku

Impressive, MOst impressive..
 Grafox
06-18-2002, 10:09 PM
#199
For the fans:
http://home.quicknet.nl/qn/prive/j.hagmeijer/dooku.html)

It's a fully 3d view of young Dooku. You can circle around him 360 degrees.

You have to have viewpoint installed, if you don't, the link is on the page.

Ow, and it's still a WIP, the cape is all wrong.
 Lucko Mabri
06-18-2002, 11:31 PM
#200
wow. :eek:
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