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Klorel's Mace Windu in progress

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 artik88
06-21-2002, 2:38 AM
#151
so far this model of Mr. Windu sounds and looks great!!!! Keep up the excellent work, and post updates :)
 Altimira
06-21-2002, 6:38 AM
#152
Looks great klorel...I guess this needs a little bump...bump
 NemoX
06-21-2002, 10:56 AM
#153
Very nice...keep up the good work.
 K.O
06-24-2002, 6:03 AM
#154
Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but will he have a custom lightsaber hilt? *cough*bump*cough*
 Klorel
06-24-2002, 10:53 AM
#155
1 or 2 people are working on a saber hilt for mace. but i have yet to see his gold plated hilt being made. maybe someone should give that a try. but i'm not going to include extra files with my mace, cause if people want a mace hilt, they'll find on and download it. i dont want my model to not be downloaded cause it forces extra addons that people dont want. but i'm sure there is a mace saber out there. uvws are being finished up and will start texturing soon.
 slimking
06-25-2002, 6:57 PM
#156
very veryu good - do you know when it might be finshed? i very egar for it!! what pic are you gonna use for when i'm winning!!;)
 slimking
06-25-2002, 8:12 PM
#157
aARRRRRRRRR has this thred dieD!!!!
 Klorel
06-25-2002, 9:01 PM
#158
Not anymore :evil3:

ok... this pic is really early - so dont expect too much. I still have a lot of work on the forehead (when I mirrored it the highlights look strange, so i'm gonna redo them) and other facial and head touchups:

http://www.geocities.com/crazyhamster03/macewindupreview13.txt)
hope you guys like what i've got so far. If anything looks weird shadow wise its because i'm rendering it in max, my preview pics will look a lot better when i get into modview and in-game.
 Grafox
06-25-2002, 9:06 PM
#159
Looking good, just one comment, don't make him stare up that much :)
 quigon1
06-25-2002, 9:37 PM
#160
Impressive !!!

quigon1
 t3rr0r
06-25-2002, 9:37 PM
#161
wow, klorel... for an early skin, that looks really great.
 Altimira
06-25-2002, 9:56 PM
#162
That is one bad motha F****er.
 Klorel
06-25-2002, 10:02 PM
#163
Ok, heres another update. I have no idea why theres greenish skin near the nose and why max is making wierd shadows and highlights in certain places, trust me, whe i get it to modview, it will look 1000 times better, but i moved the eyes down a smidgen and what have you. still needs work, any constructive criticism is welcome. :D

http://www.geocities.com/crazyhamster03/macewindupreview14.txt)
 morphius_doh
06-25-2002, 10:28 PM
#164
Excellent likeness!! If I may make a few observations and suggestions:

The eyes are a tad too big and round. If you could add some more flesh or bags, for lack of a better term, under the eyes it may look better.

Take a look at this pic and you should see what I'm talking about.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/macewindu/index_movie.html)
 Klorel
06-25-2002, 10:58 PM
#165
well in your pic he's squinting -- look at the mace on the left of that page, he has large, alert, ready to rough somebody up, dont f**k with a jedi look to him. thats the look i was going for when i modelled him. :cool:
 slimking
06-25-2002, 11:28 PM
#166
so when will be be ready for action,,,,,,, i have been watching this thred with green eyes!!:c3po:
 morphius_doh
06-25-2002, 11:43 PM
#167
If this has already been answered I apologise (There's too many pages to check.) Will this model come with his own light-sabre hilt?
 slimking
06-26-2002, 6:06 AM
#168
when do we get it!! it rocks!! knowing my luck no servers will have it for ages!!!!
 TEX360
06-26-2002, 6:51 AM
#169
hey, that skin is amazing, are you placing the photo on the model or is it by hand? if its by hand, you're a very good skinner man... i dont like the eyes though, they look all black, i dotn know what color samuel l jackson's eyeґs are though. very good job...
 striderx2048
06-26-2002, 8:09 AM
#170
mostly like brown
 Jango_Fett91
06-26-2002, 8:13 AM
#171
This is gonna be the best yet!:D
 Altimira
06-26-2002, 9:23 AM
#172
He is still one Bad Motha F****er
 slimking
06-26-2002, 4:31 PM
#173
it does look so good anymore pics mate?
 Uber Sith
06-26-2002, 4:53 PM
#174
Very nice..i like it klorel

ill give ya a little bit of tidbit advice though

his eybrows seem to me the problem. the kinda swoop from the center and curve over instead of out...they also fade a bit

he also has fint wrinkles and a very slight bulge from his forhead, just above the eyebrows..his eyebrows are a little darker as so are his lips apart form that he's perfect
 Pedantic
06-26-2002, 5:14 PM
#175
Originally posted by Klorel
well in your pic he's squinting -- look at the mace on the left of that page, he has large, alert, ready to rough somebody up, dont f**k with a jedi look to him. thats the look i was going for when i modelled him. :cool:

I think that the size isn't the problem. It just kinda looks like someone is pulling his lower eyelids down to uncover part of his eye, ya dig? Anyway, very good likeness overall. :D
 Tap[RR]
06-26-2002, 8:49 PM
#176
Originally posted by TEX360
hey, that skin is amazing, are you placing the photo on the model or is it by hand? if its by hand, you're a very good skinner man... i dont like the eyes though, they look all black, i dotn know what color samuel l jackson's eyeґs are though. very good job...


Most definitely from scratch, a photo wouldnt look THIS good, photos are always a bad idea for these kind of models, unless of course you photograph the actor (scan his face) but, we all know you couldnt do that ;P . Anyways, great job klorel, looks like he needs a heavier eyebrow, maybe adjust the model? (not eyebrow hair, like.. facial structure) Heh then again, its probally 3dsmax, we should wait for the modview images to judge..
 Altimira
06-26-2002, 8:56 PM
#177
he has already got past the part of editing the model
 Arco
06-26-2002, 9:23 PM
#178
the reason you are getting green bits is because you have photo sourced it (this may have already been mentioned) I think that photosourcing can work but what you really need to do is greyscale the bugger and then recolour from the beginning. looking nice indeed tho, I must say I couldn't do better myself.

Arco:atat:
 Klorel
06-26-2002, 10:20 PM
#179
no, the green is from Max, i re-did the coloring, and the eyebrows and made the eyes browner. but yey max still renders that area greenish, you'll see it better in modview, but for now, ignore the greenish blue area (just pretend his nose is broken. lol)
UPDATE:
http://www.geocities.com/crazyhamster03/macewindupreview15.txt)
 keo718
06-26-2002, 10:55 PM
#180
The skin looks good, but his eyes and headsize are a tad bit too large.
 iTeM
06-26-2002, 11:00 PM
#181
that looks good! but I think you should move his eyes closer to eachother. He might look more "normal" then.

Can't wait for the release
 morphius_doh
06-26-2002, 11:02 PM
#182
You might want to take one of the reflections, or whatever those white circles are, in the eyes.
 iTeM
06-26-2002, 11:04 PM
#183
I changed my mind! saw the pic higher up and I think it looks good. It was the spooky angle that was messing with my mind.
 Altimira
06-26-2002, 11:07 PM
#184
For all of those wanting him to change his Mace model, he cant. He has already past that stage. Plus you guys should have spoken up sooner.
I agree though with morphius_doh, you need to take out one of the eye reflections.
 ondraedan
06-26-2002, 11:08 PM
#185
Yeah, the eyes do look pretty far apart, other than that it looks awesome.
 Uber Sith
06-26-2002, 11:25 PM
#186
I really like it... but theres somthing about it that doesnt hit me and say " THIS PARTYS OVER"

i mean i love him n all.. the nose and cheeks are perfecet. maybe its the yes casue he looks like 10 years younger than he does...or maybe a little sharpe around the cheek area...i dunno.. and the black bbit around the lining of the eyes needs to go i think

Its almost perfect though.. just a little bit more touch upo.. and give the guy a pupil if it looks good :D
 Arco
06-26-2002, 11:47 PM
#187
oh ok dude. Anyhew the eyes do look al ittle scary, jus shade em up a bit round the bottom to make em look more round and less WHITE. maybe add some red in on the edge of the whites as well. Looking nice indeed!

Arco
 Sounds Risky
06-27-2002, 12:31 AM
#188
You sure you can't adjust his eyelids and eyebrows to make him look a bit more serious? He will be fighting a lot remember.
 slimking
06-27-2002, 12:52 AM
#189
Originally posted by Klorel
no, the green is from Max, i re-did the coloring, and the eyebrows and made the eyes browner. but yey max still renders that area greenish, you'll see it better in modview, but for now, ignore the greenish blue area (just pretend his nose is broken. lol)
UPDATE:
http://www.geocities.com/crazyhamster03/macewindupreview15.txt)

hey the skin is great - don't listen to the hole pickers who can't even finger paint!
 TEX360
06-27-2002, 1:19 AM
#190
altmira, he can still change the model... its not like when you start to skin you cant cahgne teh model at all.
 The Rel)ee(V)eR
06-27-2002, 1:23 AM
#191
Well, I seem to think what everyone else thinks...The skin itself is perfect...All you need work on is the eyes, make it less white and a more natural color and you're fine..
 Sounds Risky
06-27-2002, 1:38 AM
#192
To get my idea accross better, I made a picture.

http://www.pe.net/~shoemake/matt/images/windu.jpg)
 Jango_Fett91
06-27-2002, 1:52 AM
#193
Och i have sent you a PM....
 keo718
06-27-2002, 2:25 AM
#194
The picture that och posted is similair to what I mean. In the original, there is a little too much white under and on the sides of his eyes. The skin itself looks very good. The only other thing to me is the head shape. It's a little too big and his chin is less round. Just some constructive criticism. I think all in all its a very good effort though.

P.S.

I did not post this while you were making the model because I just got an account on these forums yesterday.
 Klorel
06-27-2002, 3:52 AM
#195
Well i can make the chin less round by altering the skin, but as for the eyes, sorry, but i'm done modelling. The only way to make the eyes smaller would be to texture on the eye itself. besides, i personally think it looks like his eyes, if you look at pictures of samuel L. Jackson with eyes wide open, you'll see that he has rather large eyes, most of you i think have looked at the picture ref. above where he's squinting. thanks for your input though. and also, i think the reason you guys think his head is too big is cause max does wierd things to the image when you render up close. the model is fine, trust me.

The Rel)ee(V)eR -- "All you need work on is the eyes, make it less white and a more natural color and you're fine"
you mean the white as in outside of the eyes? if so, i have taken the whitish-brown color directly from a photo of mace and surounded the pupil with it, pure white just looks stupid. you can see this in preview pic 15.
Also, did everyone want me to get rid of the lower right highlight on the pupil? or just fade it so its not as bright?
I really do appreciate all the constructive criticism. Thats the only way one can learn. thanks for everyones support. :)
 Sounds Risky
06-27-2002, 4:18 AM
#196
I don't mean to argue, but here's a picture of him not squinting and his eyes aren't as wide open as you have the model. Wouldn't this just involve moving some vertices up?

http://www.pe.net/~shoemake/matt/images/windu2.jpg)
 keo718
06-27-2002, 4:40 AM
#197
As far as the eyes go, I was just suggesting that you lift his lower eyelids. Would have to do with the skin itself or the model?
 Klorel
06-27-2002, 10:30 AM
#198
Its the model that would be changed. I tweeked the eyelids, so heres a pic of the progress i've made:
http://www.geocities.com/crazyhamster03/macewindupreview16.txt)
anyone object?
-and dont bother saying the head is too big, it isnt. yours is. lol. j/k. but seriously, 3d max has a happy way of distorting the head, plus i'm up close to it, and rotated a bit, so it just looks bigger cause its closer- thats what i'm focusing on right now is the head, the body will come soon, then you can tell me the heads too small. :D
 Sounds Risky
06-27-2002, 10:40 AM
#199
That looks much better Klorel. If you could move the sides of the mouth down a bit, I'd say it's perfect.
 Uber Sith
06-27-2002, 10:47 AM
#200
That looks much better now. looks almost exactly like him....brilliant job klorel
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