Hey all, what do you think so far? Basically a mod of the storm trooper because thats what they basicly are.. Remodeled the head though and modified some of the other bodyparts..
I also created another model of the clonetroopers based off of the concept sketches, but they arent the offical look so i figured i would make it more authentic. BTW. I suck at skinning, i always have been a modeler not a painter/skinner. So maybe some one would like to skin this baby up. :P

Heres some shots..
Back (http://www.bridge-masters.com/cloneback.jpg)
Front (http://www.bridge-masters.com/clonefront.jpg)

Looks good I guess...

Oh and the helmet fin is flat towards the back, and it has a little red light on the end. (So in sh|tty conditions the other troopers know it's a friendly when shooting in clouds of dirt or fog...)


:jango:

even though i appreciate all the effort everyone puts into models and skins, i think your clone trooper model SURPASSES any clone trooper out there. i hope i'm not offending anyone, but a clone trooper's head painted over a shadow trooper's doesn't look authentic enough to me.

and supposedly the clone trooper's visor can see through any "sh|tty" condition, so i don't know exactly what the light would be for. HOWEVER, can you possibly do some kind of shader thing that could make it blink? it would be cool to see it on him. there's a darth mekanus (?) skin that has blinking lights, and i think the darth vader model does too. just my 2 cents.

i'm really psyched about your model ... keep up the great work!

I hate to be overly critical, but the fin is a little short and the head looks a wee bit fat. But the body looks great. Clonetroopers really do need to be done on a new model, not just stormtrooper or shadowtrooper. Looks good so far.

Looks quite good so far. A few notes from looking at the action figure:

1. Head is skinnier
2. shoulder armor is tapered slightly
3. seperate elbow and kneepads


Looks great though. I'd like to see this finished.

Hey thanks for all of the input guys, i'll get to work on all of your suggestions immediatly.. Please keep adding your suggestions, like i said i want to make this look as authentic as possible..

ok is this better? I will still continue to tweak this model, but i just wanted to let you guys see the new knee caps and arms. Plus i fixed the head, maybe it might need more tweaking so let me know..

Front (http://www.bridge-masters.com/newclonefront.jpg)
Side (http://www.bridge-masters.com/newcloneside.jpg)
Back (http://www.bridge-masters.com/newcloneback.jpg)

Thanks again!

Pretty good, well sort.. of.. work on modeling sme more, dont release this, since it is obviously your first model. Good start too, hheh work on the head then try to model a body of your own.

Originally posted by Tap[RR]
Pretty good, well sort.. of.. work on modeling sme more, dont release this, since it is obviously your first model. Good start too, hheh work on the head then try to model a body of your own.


Better than you could do, stop harassing the mans work. Or I'll shot you with my AT-AT:atat:

Quite good. Although I don't think the face is quite right. Here's a pic of it.

http://starwars.carrotnetwork.com/reviews/cloner01.jpg)

I'll try and figure out what's missing.

your helmet needs more angles in it, it looks a bit too rounded. Other than that, it's amazing.

ok ok ok, phew... 4 hours later i've got myself a new head.. And i think it looks much much better.. (took the advice to model my own head), and no this isnt my first model i have modeled before for quake3 and NOLF. But i just figured it being a clone trooper and it being related to the stormtrooper and all why should i go and reinvent the wheel so to speak.. So i figured i would use the resources i had.. Neways... let me know what you guys think now.. BTW. Thanks for the link to the image, it helped much much more.. Last time i hade to create the helmet from my memory of the movie, so this time i had the visual.. Hope i can finish this off soon, going to bed now, its late!! :P

Head (http://www.bridge-masters.com/newhead.jpg)

That's is very good. I would like to see it skinned, it's sometimes hard to tell with just a model. That's very close (if not perfect) to perfection. Great job.

Looks good, man. Dont' stop, and don't keep it to yourself!. :)

I agree with Strider. Looks dead-on so far but seeing a skin laid on top of it would really make it easier to judge.

I still think the fin is a bit too short...

But what do I know?

Whoo hoo! ok over excited i guess.. here's the helmet skinned... yeah i know its not the same color as the models armor.. (need to re-skin that) but looks good i think, give me your input.. and on the note of the light on the fin.. where exactly does that go, and do you have an image of it? I dont remember a light in the movie.. hmmm...



Skinned helmet (http://www.bridge-masters.com/newtrooper.jpg)

Looks great so far...Head is still a bit to thick though...

Yes the model is NEAR Perfect, I agree that the helmit is a tad to thick but other than that its fine. btw when ur done with the model DONT FORGET that the CTF skins should be like the red and blue colored armor is the moive

Yeah I got the red and blue skins down :) 10 steps ahead of ya :P

But is the head too think horizontaly or verticaly?or from front to back? My judgement is a little off... not many photo's to refrence from.. And what should i use for sounds? cause there arent any clonetrooper sounds yet... Are there any jango fett sounds yet? Cause i could apply a static filter like an intercom or CB radio sound... hmmm very tricky.. or i could just use the storm trooper sounds... i hope i can get a beta of this model working soon.. i'll keep you guys updated...

Here is a 3/4 view of the Clone Trooper's head. It is the best shot I could find. Its a little small, but it does show how "bullet shaped" the head is. Minus the cheeks and head fin of course...

http://www.theforce.net/multimedia/archive/Images/Episode_2/Characters/Clonetroopers/beacon54-clonetr.jpg)

The helmet is alot better, but still lacks the harder shapes it should have. The front of the armor in the stomach region is a bit off also.
http://www.theforce.net/episode2/newspics/CloneFig.jpg)
http://www.atomiccomics.com/pdg/clonetrooper.jpg)
http://stealthboy.dyndns.org/~msherman/images/clonetrooper_small.jpg)

Originally posted by Darth_spidey



Better than you could do, stop harassing the mans work. Or I'll shot you with my AT-AT:atat:

I dunno, more like motivation, i never harassed him or insulted. I encouraged him to keep trying, hell looks like it worked from the new head, great work, keep it up. Also i'd appreciate it if you'd well pardon my words but, grow up, there was no need to insult my skill. ;)

I STILL think the fin is too short...

I've only said it three times. I'm starting to sound like my mother with all this nagging!

I'm going to go jump off a bridge in light of my new revelation.

It doesn't have a fin thats why lol.

The body is too small. Raven didn't realise Stormies are big people.

Looks great so far. It's the only Clonetrooper with a fin for this that I've seen.

very good
but does the clone trooper carry a detonation pack like a stormtrooper on the back of his belt?

I think this picture:http://www.bridge-masters.com/newclonefront.jpg)
is more accurate then this one: http://www.bridge-masters.com/newtrooper.jpg)
except the black thing on the helmet is a little too wide in the first picture. Also the arms I think need to be thicker. other then that good work.

Looking good. It seems almost perfect to me. Keep up the good work.
:clone:

Yeah. Its almost perfect. Fin.

Looks great. Fin.

Starting to look more and more like a clonetrooper. Fin.

I have no suggestions. No, wait. Yes I do. Make the fin taller! Erm, oops.

Just an update so that you guys know that this model isnt dead...
I've been setting up the hiarchy and the bone skin, plus the texture maps and some more geometry... Saw EP II today (my 4th time) and i had a few images in my head, that werent on the model before... *yes the trooper does have a detpack) but his hip armor is slighty different and the fin sticks out with a point in the back, and doesnt round off like mine did... Plus... i added the light at the tip like someone recommended, i never noticed it before, and i will create a shader to make it blink :) And last I fixed the back controll pannel, it isnt inverted.. it is flat with indentations of the shapes in the second phase screenshots i posted...


I am planning on buying the 12" figurine to help me see how the trooper really looks, so i will probably be making drastic and more realistic changes in the next few days... I will keep you guys posted... :)

What I find amazing is that even though your Clone Trooper isn't finished, its clearly the best one I've seen yet. Its way better then the skinned versions that are available now. I can't wait until you release it to us. Keep up the good work! :)

Body looks a tad too small for the head, or vice versa.

There gonna be CTF versions of it with the red/blue stripes?

Originally posted by Niblem
Just an update so that you guys know that this model isnt dead...
I've been setting up the hiarchy and the bone skin, plus the texture maps and some more geometry... Saw EP II today (my 4th time) and i had a few images in my head, that werent on the model before... *yes the trooper does have a detpack) but his hip armor is slighty different and the fin sticks out with a point in the back, and doesnt round off like mine did... Plus... i added the light at the tip like someone recommended, i never noticed it before, and i will create a shader to make it blink :) And last I fixed the back controll pannel, it isnt inverted.. it is flat with indentations of the shapes in the second phase screenshots i posted...


I am planning on buying the 12" figurine to help me see how the trooper really looks, so i will probably be making drastic and more realistic changes in the next few days... I will keep you guys posted... :)


I was wondering if you forgot about the red light on the fin, glad you didn't! ;)



:jango:


Btw, when you do get a 12" Ultimate action figure, tell me where you get it; I'm looking for the Jango Fett one...

Nevermind, I remembered reading where to find the 12" action figures...

anyways, here are some ref pics of the 12" Clone Trooper. (Must say, its sh!t compared to the Ultimate Jango Fett one)

http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=swsaga/12clone_front2.jpg)
http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=swsaga/12clone_left.jpg)
http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=swsaga/12clone_right.jpg)
http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=swsaga/12clone_back.jpg) (I can't belive it's missing the red light on the fin)
http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=swsaga/12clone_headcu.jpg)


Hope these help you out! :)


:jango:

Hmmm...I would stick to using the other pictures--the 12" figure looks off to me. This model is definitely better than all those skins out there. Just make sure you get the angles on the helmet right--from the screenies, it looks too rounded. And make sure you get the colors the same--in that last screenshot, the helmet looked like more of an off-white.

Hmm. What a nice FIN he has on his head. Its TALLer than it is in the model. Too bad no one has mentioned it before now.

Ok now these are post completed shots... After many changes and skinning etc.. I think its almost about ready to be released... only have to create the shader now, and export + a few hirachy changes.. oh and finish the CTF skins...

Is the texture really that bad color wise? I kinda liked the off white, made it look like it was dirty, oh well its an easy fix, just have to adjust the hues.. No biggy... Let me know what you think now... so I can put in any final changes.. :)

Front (http://www.bridge-masters.com/front.jpg)
Back (http://www.bridge-masters.com/back.jpg)
Side (http://www.bridge-masters.com/side.jpg)
Godly :P (http://www.bridge-masters.com/omni.jpg)

WOW! this model is great.

my only criticism has to do with the helmet compared to the right-side image posted by [Dom_Pmd] ... it seems like in your model the "jaw" part of the helmet sticks out a little farther. on the toy it seems to be pretty straight all the way down. but that's my two cents.

any thoughts on taunts? what are your plans for team colors?

keep up the great work!

The mesh is looking good, I wasnt sure if I would like this model at first , since you where basing it off the raven stormtropper.xsi but you've done a bunch of work and have successfully converted it into a clone :)

The only thing I see wrong is the triangular indents in thew side of the helmet, and there is suppose to be, and the rim kinda part under it. the bottom of the helmet under the indent is supose to go all the way around the back. The part going up the middle of the side of the helmey comes out of it.

Here I did this little wacky thing in photoshop. It might help you see the helmet in more of a mesh sort of way.
http://www.x2studios.net/imagestore/SuperSVegetto/12clone_headcu) copy.jpg

Originally posted by Niblem
Ok now these are post completed shots... After many changes and skinning etc.. I think its almost about ready to be released... only have to create the shader now, and export + a few hirachy changes.. oh and finish the CTF skins...

Is the texture really that bad color wise? I kinda liked the off white, made it look like it was dirty, oh well its an easy fix, just have to adjust the hues.. No biggy... Let me know what you think now... so I can put in any final changes.. :)

Front (http://www.bridge-masters.com/front.jpg)
Back (http://www.bridge-masters.com/back.jpg)
Side (http://www.bridge-masters.com/side.jpg)
Godly :P (http://www.bridge-masters.com/omni.jpg)

WOW ! This model ROCKS !!!:clone: :clone:
I hope it`s not too long B4 it`s released :clone: :clone:

Well, I suppose the fin will have to do...

The model looks a lot better than the original... they grow up so fast...

Pretty nice. The helmet still seems too round, but its great in any case. My only problem with it is that the white armour sections dont have any depth.

Argh... Pissing me off, ok other modelers please look here and let me know what is wrong.. Quake 3 models were so much easier... Whats wrong with my hiarchy..? The right half seems to be linked correctly.. But the left is all screwed up... Linked all the meshes and tags in the right order according to Spacemonkey's tut. But this is what mine looks like, i've redone the hiarchy and skins 4 times... Let me know what i can do...

Hiarchy (http://www.bridge-masters.com/whyhirachy.jpg)

It's simply... BEAUTIFUL... like, a nice mountain morning with a crisp sunrise.. ah yes...... okay, maybe that was too corny, but anyway, that model is perfect man, i mean it, its identical to those pictures, nice work, really. :clone:

now i want this thread dont die...i simply want this kickass model :] commander skin would do miracles to :] :clone: :Wheres our Commander? :clone: Hmmm I dont know.. :clone: : Maybe because you cant see the commander because he doesnt have hes commander suit done yeat...hes waiting for hes order.

It seemed to me like everyone stopped cause i wrote something odd, oh well, ummm, hope you figure out whats wrong with the model or if you already have since its been a week without a reply.

Haven't seen anything for a while.. anything happening?

But the taunts might be hard... the only time they talk is at the cloning facility and to Padme near the end...