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What would be the beggining of your version of the KOTOR 3 story? [MAJOR SPOILER]

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 Vladimir-Vlada
08-24-2005, 7:16 PM
#1
Since no one posted on this thread yet, I'll start first: ;)

The story starts 2 years after the events from TSL. The Senate on Coruscant doesn't exist anymore, the Jedi don't exist anymore... It is unknown how the Senate stopped existing, most believe that it was due to the instability of the Republic, some do to the lack of credits and some to the mysterious event at Telos which led to the downfall of the Restoration Project and the Senate. But most agree that it is all these things. The Jedi and the Jedi Order don't exist anymore, and they were wipped out in the recent events... A few people fled to the Unknown Regions to make new life their and to live independently from other worlds.

In the beginning the main character is either a soldier, scout, scoundrel or some other lesser non-Force class. The heads can be either those from KOTOR 1 or the newly made ones. The main character has a voice (Male: Rino Ramano; Female: Whoever)... He (or she) wakes up in a cave with amnesia. He (she) encountered a village of refugees from known space, and he (she) found out that these are the unknown regions. Then there is only one thought in his (her) head: Get off of this planet and find out what has happened in the Galaxy. He (she) discusses what has happened in known space 2 years ago, and he (she) finds out that there was a Jedi who travelled to many worlds, he (she) believes that that Jedi saved lives (or that the Jedi was evil), and then concludes that the Jedi was either Male (or Female). He (she) helps around the village a bit (or kills everyone, whatever :rolleyes: ), and then finds out that there is an old man on the nearby mountain in a cave. He (she) goes to the cave and finds the old Obi-Wan type of person, who is acctuely a Jedi. The old mans name is Dorian (voiced by Alec Guiness), they talk a little and deciede to try and leave the planet. They exit the cave and go down the mountain and encounter young Force-user fighting some beasts.

If the main character said that the Jedi was a male (lightside), the young Force-user would look like Pierce Brosnan, be voiced by Pierce Brosnan and be called Ryan Pano. His class would be determined through conversation. If it was female (lightside), the Force-user would be a blond woman (voiced by... whoever. :rolleyes: ) called Allana Fayden. Darkside: whatever :rolleyes:

Ryan (or Allana) says that he hasn't found anything on the planet and that they could somehow make a comunications array and contact T3-M4 in the Ebon Hawk. After assisting (or killing) several villages, they construct the comm. array and contact T3. But the message was detected by greedy Mandalorians. Dorian dicsussed the main characters (let's just say Luke Saben [Don't ask]), about his good (evil) actions and told him that he (she) must do his (her) best to do good acts. Ryan (even though lighside) doesn't sometimes agree with Luke's good deeds. Dorian tells a bit about his past and so does Ryan, who reveals that he is the:

EXILE! :D

The Ebon Hawk arrives and they go, but 2 hours later the planet is destoryed by Mandalorians. In the Ebon Hawk, Dorian explains to Luke that he is Revan. Luke asked why doesn't he remember anything, but Dorian said that the answer was confusing to hims as much as to Luke. They land at a small space station to refuel and find out that the Galaxy is now the Sith Empire and that there is a Sith Order (Dark Jedi).


I'm not telling anything else, and neither should you please. Just say the beginning... :D
 Vladimir-Vlada
08-24-2005, 7:38 PM
#2
What's the problem? No ideas? ;) Come on, don't be shy...
 Emperor Devon
08-24-2005, 8:06 PM
#3
Why'd you include a spoiler in the title?

Anyhow, I think over the course of the whole game, the Exile will journey to the Unknown Regions, fight the True Sith, who will put their plans into motion, and attack the Republic and the false Sith. Coruscant will be sieged, and eventually, Revan and the Exile will take the fight back to heart of the True Sith Empire, kill the Dark Lord, take his place, and rule the galaxy! There'll also be a couple plot twists and major character deaths.
 JediWatchman
08-24-2005, 9:24 PM
#4
I had an idea that I've posted in two threads already, but no one has commented on it. Maybe someone will this time. You should start out as a young (wo)man raised by Sith training to become one. Since Sith raised you, you know nothing of the Light Side. The only things you know of the Jedi are negative. Then, one day, you meet a Jedi. According to what you've been taught, you should kill him. You're curious though, so you don't kill him and talk to him. You eventually choose whether to stay loyal to the Sith or to come to the Light and be saved by the Jedi. I really don't give a rip about Revan and the Exile. Sorry, Revan and Exile fans. I like change. It will be boring to be the same people you were the last game. Besides, it would be hard to fit them into the game since they're different depending on how they were in your game. They can allude to Revan and the Exile; they just shouldn't be characters.
 THE MANDALORE
08-24-2005, 9:54 PM
#5
Interesting Thread.

I would have to say that the events take place 5 years after TSL. Your PC starts off on Coruscant with no recollection of the events that have just happened since he was in carbonite. The PC finds him/herself on the dark streets of the planet and wander in to a cantina. There, he/she goes to the bartender asking around for work. He/She is approached later, by a droid that is known as HK47 who says that his master wanted him to track him down. After that, the ebon hawk arrives and we are taken into the ship by mandalorians. The PC meets with Mandalore and finds out that they are heading for the Unknown Regions to fight the True Sith.

That's the beginning.

@ Vladimir-Vlada
How on earth can mandalorians destroy a planet???
They have barely no technology for crying out loud!
Besides, Mandalorians are on your side no matter if you are sith or jedi...
 Vladimir-Vlada
08-24-2005, 10:08 PM
#6
"How on earth can mandalorians destroy a planet???
They have barely no technology for crying out loud!
Besides, Mandalorians are on your side no matter if you are sith or jedi...
"

The plot explains it... Besides these are only beginnings of the stories ;) .
 lukeiamyourdad
08-24-2005, 10:17 PM
#7
I just have to mention something. Alec Guiness died in 2001.
 THE MANDALORE
08-24-2005, 10:23 PM
#8
@Vladimir

LOL
This is why I hate suspense.

@LIAYD

They could use Ewan Mcgregor but I don't think he will be able to pull it off.
:(
 lukeiamyourdad
08-24-2005, 10:37 PM
#9
Ewan McGregor doesn't seem capable of playing an old wise-man. He's way too young.
 stingerhs
08-24-2005, 11:07 PM
#10
Ewan McGregor doesn't seem capable of playing an old wise-man. He's way too young.easy answer: Ian McKellan or Christopher Lee. ;)
 lukeiamyourdad
08-24-2005, 11:15 PM
#11
easy answer: Ian McKellan

I'll probably picture Gandalf all the time x_x

or Christopher Lee. ;)

He's Dooku already.


I'd love to go with Leonard Nimoy but Trekkies will probably hang his dead body if he ever did that.
 stingerhs
08-24-2005, 11:18 PM
#12
I'll probably picture Gandalf all the time x_xhmm, i guess i gotta ask: what did you do when you watched the X-Men movies???
 starmark2k
08-25-2005, 4:25 AM
#13
I think before the actual game starts you should have choose if you join the siths (seacret) academy or the Jedi Academy, This decission also says how you played as the Exile in K2 (basically if you destroyed malachor and started the new jedi order with your companios as LS or did the DS).

If you choose sith...
You have been trained as a sith for the past 5 years under the Exile on malachor, Unfortunetly you are betrayed by them, so you go searching for revan and the true sith to help destroy the exiles sith

If you choose Jedi...
You have been trained as a Jedi for the past 5 years under the Exile on Coruscant. You are given an order of importants to find revan and bring him back to the Known terrortorries. You don't know why but the exile is most adement you can not fail.
 RedHawke
08-25-2005, 4:37 AM
#14
I'll probably picture Gandalf all the time x_x
hmm, i guess i gotta ask: what did you do when you watched the X-Men movies???
Yeah, I had a problem not picturing Eric "Magneto" Lenscher when watching the LOTR Trilogy and seeing Gandalf! :D

"That's really smart... shoot a bolt of lightning into a huge copper conductor... I thought you lived at a school?" -Magneto to Cyclops in X-1

I'd love to go with Leonard Nimoy but Trekkies will probably hang his dead body if he ever did that.
:lol: But Spock would make the "ultimate" Jedi Master! :xp:
 Ztalker
08-25-2005, 4:55 AM
#15
One more thing...
You said the Mandalorians had no technologie at all.
That explains off course why every dead Mandalorian costed 10 lives of republic soldiers. It must have been there wooden arrows that made the madalorians so strong...
Also, we ignore the fact they had the srongest assault vessel in the galaxy *Basilisk War droid*.....

If i read your post, it seems you didn't even bother to listen to the dialogues of KOTOR 2.

I'm sorry of beiing such a pain in the ass, but the Mandalorians where much more adavnces then the Republic. They used Stealth Generators, high-dmg guns, and don't forget, ther where financilally supported by the Sith.
 THE MANDALORE
08-25-2005, 6:33 AM
#16
^^^^

True, true, all true.

However, every dead mandalorian cost 10 republic soldiers in the PAST. After Malachor, there were very few mandalorians in the galaxy and they used an old worn out base on DXUN. By the time of KOTOR 2, there was only one basilisk war droid, a handful of recruits, and only some experienced warriors.

That doesn't sound too advanced to me. Although the mandalorians in TSL would have beat the republic in military combat, they just didn't have enough technology to "destroy a planet". All of thier resources were used up or destroyed in the Mandalorian Wars.
 THE MANDALORE
08-25-2005, 6:55 AM
#17
@Ztalker

Supported by the sith? How can you even say that after what Darth Revan and Darth Malak did to them? Although Mandalorians supported the sith in the past, they don't support them now. They didn't seem to support the Sith when they attacked the Ravager did they? Anyways, the Mandalore isn't interested in supporting the Sith or the Jedi in the events of TSL. He is just concerned about rebuilding his clan.
 Vladimir-Vlada
08-25-2005, 8:46 AM
#18
"I just have to mention something. Alec Guiness died in 2001.
"
:( *Takes his hat off to pay tribute to the great actor...*

"He is just concerned about rebuilding his clan.
"

@Mandalore

Have you at least thought that maybe the Dark Lord of the Sith blackmailed the Mandalorians? The Mandalorian Wars weren't meant just to be raged because of honor... So it seems to me that the Mandalorians were forced to do his bidding. Or maybe some people also...

Plus, the Sith gave them weapons.
 Bob Lion54
08-25-2005, 10:41 AM
#19
:lol: But Spock would make the "ultimate" Jedi Master! :xp:

YES!!!

Vulcans are very Jedi-like in many ways.

But just imagine the power of an Dark Lord Vulcan........
 Bastila
08-25-2005, 11:06 AM
#20
I just hope your Revan or the exile and you have a remeber everything no ''oh i don't know who i am'' thing.
 THE MANDALORE
08-25-2005, 11:11 AM
#21
@Mandalore

Have you at least thought that maybe the Dark Lord of the Sith blackmailed the Mandalorians? The Mandalorian Wars weren't meant just to be raged because of honor... So it seems to me that the Mandalorians were forced to do his bidding. Or maybe some people also...

Plus, the Sith gave them weapons.

Which "Dark Lord of the Sith" are you talking about?
Revan? He couldn't have forced the Mandalorians to do his bidding. How would that have looked; Revan meeting with Mandalore the Ultimate and forcing him to do something? Anyways, The Mandalorian Wars were just begun by Mandalore the Ultimate to conquer more territory. The "weapons" you are talking about are probably from the Exar Kun era since the Mandalorians followed Exar into battle, but other than that they were never wtih the Sith. We know this because during the attack on DXUN by sith assassins, the mandalorians fought back and beat them.

Anyways, lets just agree that the Mandalorians were great fighters in the Mandalorian Wars and after Malachor, they went into decline and are currently slowly rebuilding thier lifestyle.

Anyhow, lets get back on topic of the thread.
 Palpatine_dc
08-25-2005, 12:34 PM
#22
... Anyways, The Mandalorian Wars were just begun by Mandalore the Ultimate to conquer more territory....

Not true, in KotOR 1 Canderous says "the Sith" lured them into a war with the Republic. I don't remember the exact lines though. Whom he is referring to as Sith is never explained. (maybe the "True Sith"?)
 ForceFightWMe12
08-25-2005, 12:39 PM
#23
I just hope your Revan or the exile and you have a remeber everything no ''oh i don't know who i am'' thing.

I totally agree. After two games, the 'who am i? What's happening?' thing gets a little old. I think that in the third game, you stay as the Exile. It gets a little annoying having three stories going on with not a single one of them finished. I mean, all you would really have to do to encorperate the other two games is just in the beginning, when you're creating your character or w/e, you either upload your previous game info or they could just ask you a series of questions of what happened. So, it would actually be pretty easy. What I'd like to see is the Exile and crew meet up with Revan and Revan's crew is gathered up again, then they attack and destroy the Sith. Ta da. Of course we'd have to find out what Revan was up to ect., but....
 Emperor Devon
08-25-2005, 1:42 PM
#24
Which "Dark Lord of the Sith" are you talking about?
Revan? He couldn't have forced the Mandalorians to do his bidding. How would that have looked; Revan meeting with Mandalore the Ultimate and forcing him to do something? Anyways, The Mandalorian Wars were just begun by Mandalore the Ultimate to conquer more territory. The "weapons" you are talking about are probably from the Exar Kun era since the Mandalorians followed Exar into battle, but other than that they were never wtih the Sith. We know this because during the attack on DXUN by sith assassins, the mandalorians fought back and beat them .

Not true. The Mandalorians did not choose to attack the Republic. They were forced to by the True Sith (not Revan), and their people were sacrificed as pawns. Even Mandalore admits this.

If the Sith had really wanted to destroy Clan Ordo, the Mandalorians would have been slaughtered.

Anyways, lets just agree that the Mandalorians were great fighters in the Mandalorian Wars and after Malachor, they went into decline and are currently slowly rebuilding thier lifestyle.

They never recovered from that battle. They continued to decline over the centuries, till ALMOST all that was left was a single army - which the Jedi wiped out. Jango Fett was the only survivior, and he was killed by Mace Windu. During the war with the Yhuuzan Vhong, Boba Fett gathered all that was left of the Mandalorians - probably a few dozen - and acted as supercommandos for the Galactic Alliance.

I highly doubt that the Mandalorians who survived the war with the Yhuuzan Vhong were capable of building the Mandalorians into a major faction in the galaxy.
 THE MANDALORE
08-25-2005, 2:26 PM
#25
Not true. The Mandalorians did not choose to attack the Republic. They were forced to by the True Sith (not Revan), and their people were sacrificed as pawns. Even Mandalore admits this.

If the Sith had really wanted to destroy Clan Ordo, the Mandalorians would have been slaughtered.

^^^^
True Sith makes sense.



They never recovered from that battle. They continued to decline over the centuries, till ALMOST all that was left was a single army - which the Jedi wiped out. Jango Fett was the only survivior, and he was killed by Mace Windu. During the war with the Yhuuzan Vhong, Boba Fett gathered all that was left of the Mandalorians - probably a few dozen - and acted as supercommandos for the Galactic Alliance.

I highly doubt that the Mandalorians who survived the war with the Yhuuzan Vhong were capable of building the Mandalorians into a major faction in the galaxy.

I know. I only said that they are rebuilding because I don't know what the devs are going to say in KOTOR 3.
 Vladimir-Vlada
08-25-2005, 4:57 PM
#26
"I just hope your Revan or the exile and you have a remeber everything no ''oh i don't know who i am'' thing.
"

The Exile doesn't have amnesia. ;)

I see that you are mentioning that the Mandalorians were forced to attack. YIPEE! I'm right! Anyway:

Changing the story: The Mandalorians and the Sith destroyed the planet.
 lukeiamyourdad
08-25-2005, 5:10 PM
#27
hmm, i guess i gotta ask: what did you do when you watched the X-Men movies???

I pictured Gandalf fighting the X-Men x_x
 Killwithhonor
08-25-2005, 5:15 PM
#28
um, a thought though, i mean instead of the Mandalorians blowing the planet to shreds, have them do something like take over the planet, not blow it up, that totally kills it, but by not blowing it up it opens lots of paths, you can take it from there idc just thoughts, and also, i just thought of this, i cant remember the planet it was by, but in kotor1 there was a space station where the guy wanted to play pazzak, maybe that could play into your story
 Vladimir-Vlada
08-25-2005, 6:09 PM
#29
"um, a thought though, i mean instead of the Mandalorians blowing the planet to shreds, have them do something like take over the planet, not blow it up, that totally kills it, but by not blowing it up it opens lots of paths, you can take it from there idc just thoughts, and also, i just thought of this, i cant remember the planet it was by, but in kotor1 there was a space station where the guy wanted to play pazzak, maybe that could play into your story
"

You mean Yavin IV? Believe me that planet is one of the key planets in the entire story...
 _Phaedrus_
08-26-2005, 11:38 AM
#30
Yep, what with that thing that Exar Kun and Ulic Qel-Droma did against the Republic fifty years before K1's storyline...
 Killwithhonor
08-26-2005, 3:54 PM
#31
ya yavin 4 i cant remember all the planets gotta catch up with all this stuff
 Fortnox
08-29-2005, 11:47 AM
#32
I dont think you should be the Exile, I think you should be a new charicter, and the Exile could be your master :D he could have burnt his face some how, and depending on what his alligence is (you could choose at the start) he could have a hood like sidious or a mask
 jblue789
08-29-2005, 2:14 PM
#33
If the Exile had burnt his/her face, he/she could wear Nihilus' mask :D

Anyways, I'd like to know how far apart TSL and Kotor 3 are going to be apart in terms of years. That might make it easier to make up a beginning .-.
 Vladimir-Vlada
08-29-2005, 3:37 PM
#34
^^^^^

Like I said in the beginning, 2 years...
 The_Maker
08-29-2005, 5:44 PM
#35
No offense, but your main pots doesn't really sound all that great... some non-sensitive force person who wakes up in a cave and does stuff in a village? Bleagck :snear:

Sounds more like K2 all over again :nut:
 Vladimir-Vlada
08-29-2005, 5:58 PM
#36
^^^^

Oh, but that's where you are wrong! :dozey: This is just the beginning. ;) :D
 jblue789
08-29-2005, 7:15 PM
#37
And I wasn't talking about your plot, I was speaking of when the official plot will take place. Which would make it much more easier to explain some of my ideas .-.
 Soogz
08-29-2005, 9:29 PM
#38
hmmm, toughie. Well I am going to say a few years after the events in TSL, you play as Revan, in search of the Old SIth Emipre, and it goes from there, you visit, planets, meet new NPC's, meet new NPC's, and it just goes from there.
 Vladimir-Vlada
08-30-2005, 7:00 AM
#39
"And I wasn't talking about your plot, I was speaking of when the official plot will take place. Which would make it much more easier to explain some of my ideas .-."

Oh! You mean that 14 year plot. Right, bummer... :disaprove
 ExileRevan
01-17-2006, 8:17 PM
#40
I think that it should be like you start out in the republic military academy on Coricant(sorry for the spelling) and you are pulled by Admiril Carth Onasi and told that youve been called to duty and to go talk to Bastila Shaan. You controll Carth and someone asks you if youve seen Revan and what he/she looked like you deside what he/she looks like on a creation screen, then the exile. Then you go back and Bastila tells you to go to the jedi council for evaluation. You see Jedi master Atton Rand and he tells you that youre force sensative and before he finishes something is blown up and you have to move to the hanger were bau-dur and atton are waiting you get on the ship and an intimidating Sith Lord comes in and engages bau-dur and atton
Bau Dur is slain and Atton gets to the ship just in time to escape. You run to corellia to find the Ebon hawk and Atton recognizes it and the droid thats with it(T3M4) you have to win it in a swoop race.
 Revan Skywalker
01-17-2006, 8:38 PM
#41
I have a plot. You start off simply deciding the genders, looks, and allignments of Revan and the Exile. You then choose their names. Revan's voice can be the same voice from KOTOR 1, the voice when you switch characters. The Exile's voice can be a voice that the developers pick. When you select a response, your char says it with his voice. Next you pick Revan and the Exile's skills and FP. If you are a new player, the game randomizes everything. Now you play. You start off as Bastila in a house on Corellia, this way it does not matter weather Revan went light or dark. You go through a training level on the way to the cantina, fighting a few muggers along the way. You reach the cantina and learn the whereabouts of Revan and the Exile.
 JediMaster12
01-18-2006, 10:14 AM
#42
Starting as Bastilla though? I would opt for a new Padawan, preferably trained by one of the Lost Jedi like Atton or Mira.
 Revan Skywalker
01-18-2006, 6:03 PM
#43
You would just start off as Bastila. Or somebody else. lol. You would then be Revan and have Exile in party for the other nine tenths of the game.
 RobQel-Droma
01-18-2006, 7:58 PM
#44
As Redhawke said in another thread, I'd like some big booming John Williams music, then a title crawl, and then a view shift to a ship in space! Classic!

I'm too lazy to type right now, I'll post my real beginning idea later.
 Alkonium
01-18-2006, 8:04 PM
#45
Well, what I'd like to see is either panning to a huge space battle, or panning to the Ebon Hawk plummetting towards some planet affiliated with the Sith and it crashes, killing the Exile.
 RobQel-Droma
01-18-2006, 8:15 PM
#46
^Boy- you sure killed him off fast. :)
 Alkonium
01-18-2006, 8:20 PM
#47
^Boy- you sure killed him off fast. :)Hey, would you rather he be around to unwillingly destroy the Force? And besides, Revan was much better.
 RobQel-Droma
01-18-2006, 8:25 PM
#48
Are you talking about what the Jedi Masters said about the Jedi Exile? I don't think he is going to unwittingly destroy it, I thought that was just the Council misunderstanding. If you remember, Visas says to a male PC something like this:

"I do not see the death of the Force in you. In you, I see the hope for all life."

Or something like that, can't quite remember how it went. And Revan was a cool character, but I dunno- I'm kind of fond of the Jedi Exile, I thought it was a good idea too. :)
 JediMaster12
01-19-2006, 10:21 AM
#49
You are right and I sense that the Exile has another role to play in this battle.
 Sabretooth
01-19-2006, 10:42 AM
#50
Watch the master at work:

My story starts off some five years after TSL. After years of war, the Republic is finally recovering and the Jedi Order is being rebuilt. The Council has been restored and several planets are under recovery efforts. You play as a young padawan near the completion of his training. You have been sent on an important mission with your master, to find the source of Force distrubance in (insert random planet here). You find that the true troublemaker is a proficient Dark Jedi, who kills your Master a la Qui-Gon. The Council graduates you and while following the Council's missions, you search for the Dark Jedi. The DJ leads you on a chase where you gain a few party members and visit a couple of planets. THe Ebon Hawk, repaired and renewed is the ship of the DJ. Stranded on a planet, you are forced to use the Hawk, after agreeing to do what the DJ says. The rest is twisting, winding story, but since Vlad has told me not to speak of it, I shall keep my mouth shut.
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