^^^
Yeah I'd love to see the Ebon Hawk one last time, but I'd also like to see it finally destroyed at the end of KoTOR III.
things i don't want;
1. new PC and new story (finish 1 and 2's)
2. boring pointless quests and planets like Korriban (dantooine good in kotor bad in tsl)
3. GO TO, Visas, and an annoying meddling so called mentor i.e. kreia
4. soooooooo long to get a lightsabre
5. amnesia
AND THE MOST IMPORTANT
6. AN UNFINISHED GAME!!!!!!
I meant by my comment I DO NOT want a brand new new story with nothing to do with Revan and the Exile. I want to find out what happened to them, and I want to play doing that. I also don't want emotionally FUBAR'd Wookiees, emotionally damaged street urchins, getting involved in civil wars in which you are in ONE area all the time, and I do NOT want some uber-uber-uber-takes-itself-seriously plot.
All the "The Jedi are dying" crap.
an over used rhetoric indeed.
what i don't want is the ebon hawk
The one thing I do not want to see in KotOR 3 is the Ebon Hawk, unless it's being blown up and replaced by something that doesn't look like a stapler stuck to a folded paper plate.
I was wondering if you might consider making such a model, snapping a picture of it, and posting a link to it or something? That's the funniest thing I've read all day, and I'd love to see it.
The Ebon Hawk(I'm so set against that :p)
^^^^
You definitely are. I don't think there has been one discussion about KIII that you didn't say that you didn't want the EH. :Dd
Anyways, one of the things I would LIKE to see is swoop racing as in actually racing against other people like in that SW podracer game. That and more planets/stations like Yavin IV in KI, where you just buy cool items and it is not directly tied into the storyline.
No love triangles. Ever!
I think this guy just hit the friggin jackpot on ideas. Visas and Handmaiden could both suck a broom before they could...uh...right well.
Well, besides the Ebon Hawk, I'd really really really hate to see some mysterious past BS like we've had twice in a friggin row.
hey for the stuff about wanting to see yavin 4... was yavin 4 even discovered yet back then? besides by exar kun... the sith lord who brought the massassi there. his name is on the tip of my tongue... damnit. but you know who i'm talking about. i don't think the republic has been to yavin yet...
but for sure tehre's no academy there... that only happened after the fall of the empire
The Republic had to have known about Yavin IV. The Jedi brought a whole armada there to destroy Exar Kun. And besides, wasn't that space station that you visit built by the Republic? If they built it they had to know it was there.
Hey SW1, if you are talking about me, then I did not say that I wanted to see Yavin, I said I wanted to see places LIKE Yavin STATION. And yes, the Republic knew, there was a space station there and the Jedi brought an armada there like fresnosmokey said.
I you are not talking to me, then nevermind about the first thing, just yes- the republic did know :).
I think this guy just hit the friggin jackpot on ideas. Visas and Handmaiden could both suck a broom before they could...uh...right well.
Yes! Two of us against the "love triangle." Ugh! It seemed so hokey for Star Wars. Visas and the Handmaiden fighting over you. Or *shudder* Disciple and Atton fighting over you.
As soon as I realized they were jealous of each other over me, I was like "Damn." Did we even get to pick one? I mean in order to make Handmaiden a Jedi I have to two-time Visas. How can I be light-side if I'm a cheater? Least Revan was a one woman man.
Anyway, to keep on topic. Something else I don't want to see are missions that can't end. But since that's a tech problem, I'll leave it out.
Gameplay wise, I don't want to see any of the environments from either game. I don't mind going to the same planet. But I don't like going through the same or similar pathways. For example Dantooine. In K2 it was not the same as in K1, but it was all too familiar.
hey for the stuff about wanting to see yavin 4... was yavin 4 even discovered yet back then?
yes.
Things i dont want to see:
- Keria - I want somone who is you teacher to be lightside and preferably male like old ben.
- Dao-Bar - well i may not mind a Zabrak(i think his race is zabrak. right?) but not one with that anoying quiet voice and a slimer one like darth maul.
- Wookies with life depts
- Ithorians - ive never been a fan of this race
- A bad story
- Weak lightsabers - sabers should be WAY more powerfull and less of them in the game but you should have one in the game but you shouldent be able to get 20 or so sabers like i have but maby thats becuase i have hacked mechants.
- Badly made sithlords like sion and the other guy from K2.
- Limited party member selection - i mean like id like to see heaps of differant people in my party, main ones stay ofcource but some the leave and join at various points.
Things I'd like to see:
- A party member that fells the force but isnt DS nor LS and doesnt know he/she is even intouch with it. its just normal for them.
-If you turn a party member to DS maby they turn on you and your party and twist them against you without you known and this could be shown in cutsceens like they have in K2 when they are talking about you.
- at the start you can eather become a sith or a jedi but training under one at a Sith our jedi academy and its you choce where to study.
- more suttle racism throughout the story.
- once you finish the game the Kotor series is raped up ( assuming 3 is the last )
- The Ebon Hawk's previous owner has modded it - added some sweet rims. jks. yea so the ebon hawk have kinda like changed.... heres a crazy idea you find out the ebon hawk is the M Falcon. ( i dont know the Falcons history so dont flame me if that wouldent work )
- and finaly Links to the movies like how things evolved, characters ancestors
like maby Jaaba the Hutts :D and is a young yoda around at this time???? if not i finaly want yoda's race to be revealed
I'l tell you what I don't want to see:
Greedy, Lazy Dev's!!!
What I want-
Character choices, Im tired of being a human, how about an alien, imagine a Darth Maul type character.
Endor- because we need a cool Ewok, possibly force sensative
Jawa- a evil sinister JAWA that even tries to sell your ship when you land on some blackmarket type planet or space station.
An alternate ship we can fly with only 2 party members, Like a variation of an Xwing
MORE SPACE BATTLES
MORE PLANETS
MORE SIDE QUESTS FOR PARTY MEMBERS TO FURTHER DEVELOPE the characters
BAD ASS VILLIANS
Bring back the assasinators guilde
WHAT I DONT WANT--
No more Korriban or Dantooine
No wookies in party
no GO-TO
BAD AI
No Wookiees? Shame on you. We should have the choice at least.
The alien idea is intriging (sp) but we haven't done that, and I don't think they will in K3. Besides, it would add a whole nother variable to romance, or if there is a KotOR IV then it would mess up that.
I do want the Genoharadon back, they were one cool group. Could be a dangerous enemy. I think that Korriban should be in there, it is kind of a fixed planet. I hope they do some good on it, though, make it enjoyable and hard. As for Dantooine, I am suspicious that they might put it back, I don't really want it, there hasn't been much there to do.
I definitely want to be able to fly the Ebon Hawk. Oh, and Myster, I don't think it would work for the Ebon Hawk to morph into the MF. As I recall, they are two absolutely different types of ships, and the Ebon Hawk would probably be obselete even if it was upgraded. The MF was manafactured way past the time of the EH.
I can't resist...must respond to people saying not Revan!
Revan
Level 1 Jedi Knight
Vitality 150
Force 100
Tee hee!! *Puts up flame shield*
I'l tell you what I don't want to see:
Greedy, Lazy Dev's!!!
Don't think thats possible with LA as the publisher.... ;)
^Did you not hear of a game called "Knights of the Old Republic 2: The Sith Lords"?!?! That is a prime example of greedy, lazy devs.
^
Did you not hear of a company called LucasArts pushing the dev timetable up & leaving us with what we have to play...
This is a 'prime example' of lazy $$ driven suits pushing a game out the door that wasn't ready to be shipped, not the devs.. :rolleye1:
That is probably true. How much stuff came out in the press and on the internet late last year and early this year about how this game was rushed for the Christmas season? I heard a ton of rumors and after playing the game I think most are agreed that the devs, or LA, or both did rush the last one. Way too many bugs and some storylines that just ended too abruptly. Hopefully this time things will be different. :)
im sick of people bad mothing the devs the fact that obsidian got the license when they did and completely redesign an engine is friggin maraculous the reason they pushed it out quickly was lucasarts problem
^Did you not hear of a game called "Knights of the Old Republic 2: The Sith Lords"?!?! That is a prime example of greedy, lazy devs.Shoot first and ask questions later, right?
Ahem. As Fiend_138 points out, LA (as the distributor) did have a small part to play in the finished product. Yes, those heartless corporate bastards. Don't they understand that if they really try, they can run a business without worrying about profitability? I mean, if they just went out and got one of those trees that grows money, they wouldn't have to worry about how they are going to finance the other games that they want to make. Or maybe they can partner with a developer willing to work for no money, but gets the satisfaction of long hours doing something that they love. That has to be it right? I mean we're talking video games. Economics and business don't belong here. Sheesh. [/sarcasm]
Not that OE is off the hook either. They could have certainly chosen to blow off their gold date. A move that almost would have guaranteed that they would not have turned a profit for the 13 grueling months they spent developing the game. And don't forget labeling themselves "unreliable" on their maiden voyage. Silly profit hungry devs.
As for everyone that wants to bemoan the capitalist system set before us, face the facts: gaming is a business. In order for business to sustain itself, it has to be profitable. R&D that give us new console technology and new game engines is financed by profit. The more profitable a company is the more it can pay for high quality devs that make high quality games. We all hope that the people working in this industry feel passionate about what they do, but passion alone does not pay the bills. [/rant]
This might be a little off topic, buti've heard of another reason why K2 is so f*cked:
Bioware is a company that works for the fans, not for the Publishers.
What i've heared: Since kotor was a big succes, LA wanted a second one as soon as possible, so it they could cash. Bioware however, said the needed time to tweak things, and make a nice new game. LA then contracted the (relatively unknown) campany named Obsidian. A little and young company, easy to put pressure on, and blame for a bad game.
Bioware then started making games their way, what resulted in Jade Empire and soon to be Mass Effect. While these games where/are very good and original, and appreciated by all, Kotor 2 was written off like an ' Easy sequal, bad game, or lowsy cash-maker.'
All i want to say:
Dont blame Obsidian, blame LA!
PS: Obsidian is now working on Neverwinter Knights 2 under the supervision of Bioware. So Bioware trust them.
PPS: Since Obsidian isn't working on K3 (unless they split up the team)...who is?
PPPS: HK-47 will appear in the Add-on for Galaxies, another proof of LA's dollar-fetish
Bioware was offered first pass at TSL but declined due to the fact that they were working on Jade Empire. They recommended that OE take on TSL because the new company was comprised of many talented former Bioware employees. OE began working on TSL right before KotOR hit the shelves. Because they were getting a complete game engine and toolset they felt confident agreeing to an aggressive release schedule. Some of the more ambitious tweaks they wanted to make ended up not being as easy as anticipated and ate up more time and resources than they counted on.
This is based on press releases and published articles. While your post may also be true, it seems to be based off rumor and conjecture.
Sorry, I didn't realize it was LA's fault. I assumed they were sensible and would want to keep the target market with a complete game.
True Achilles...
my post was just about a rumour..
Thanks for still supporting the 'Hate LA' Club though :D
How about I just sum it all up?
NO MORE UNFINISHED GAMES!!!!
There :).
Seriously though, I wonder if Obsidian had had the time to finish KotOR II what it would have become.
^ It would have lived up to everything we heard about it. It would have been just as good as the first game, if not better.
Stupid corporate greed.
Hehe... Kind of reminds me of the countless quotes in movies, "...scared of what it may have become..."
Hmm I'd Like to See A Pet System Something Like In Dungeon Siege 2. Where I can Have One Of The Young Rancors From The Unknown World Or A Gizka, Hell I'd Like Any Of the Creatures From Kotor or TSL In My Party. Maybe Even Rideable Ones (Imagine Riding A Scathound Or a Teterank(notsureifspelledcorrectly) Into Battle!)
^Welcome to the Forums (I love saying that)
I think you mean a Tarantatek. I would love to have a pet Ton-Ton (I know I spelt it wrong).
True Achilles...
my post was just about a rumour..
Thanks for still supporting the 'Hate LA' Club though :DWhere did I insinuate that? I don't "hate" LA anymore than I "hate" OE. Any for-profit business has to take risks. OE and LA took a risk with TSL. Unfortunately, it didn't turn out as planned, but I've seen nothing to indicate that any one party is any more (or less) "to blame" than the other. Really...get over it.
Doctor, it is "Taun-taun." :)
@ Achilles: Sorry, just a stupid joke..i meant you still agrre with LA beiing the one responsable for K2
Why would you want a Mount system in Kotor? :s
You can travel with a ship, and the modules and levels aren't big enough to support mount, i think...
On the other hand, if the use a new engine..with bigger modules...
I would just frickin love to ride on a Utapau Lizzard like Boga in Episode 3, while swingin my lightsaber around to behead some Sith....
How would you work that out in an RPG, would it target the enemy and then the animal would run over and you would attack? Of course, you could ride it on you own when not in combat. The only thing is, if there were cliffs, unless they changed something then you wouldn't have much of a danger. In a game like JA, on the swoop bike level, if you went off the edge you would die. I would like to see that if it was just you and you could fall off the edge.
Well Depending On Creature It Could Wear Armor Or Have Weapon Upgrades like Synthetic organs and implants. Combat would be similar to normal combat but when it levels it could mature like a Scathound Would start as a pup then as it levels up it gets bigger Till it reaches full maturity with creature related feats and items. Also Dantooine In Kotor 1 Was Relatively large and if you didnt have force speed took a while to get around and then you find a few mandalorians and
:blast10: :snip2:
hehehe sorry that was a bit too hard to resist
But mounted combat would be a bit difficult=S so i guess i have to forget about that
I can even digest a horrible history in K3, if it has A REAL ENDING!!!!!! And no bugs please.
That's all. Everything else is superflous.
It would be a nice addition. Perhaps going off on another angle on the upgrading, have puppets like B-D's remote, except make them upgradeable. Nothing big, just perhaps some attribute bonuses, some little micro-armor for the remote, perhaps some leather covering for the beast. And then have some implants for the creature, and some things you could plug into the remote to assist them in some area.
what i don't like:
1. stupid cutscenes like G0-T0 and bao dur's remote sH!+!!!!
2. same storyline(if you are DS, "RULE THE WORLD!!!!!" and if you are LS "SAVE THE WORLD!!!!")
3. dantooine(it's so used up in k1)
4. repetitive animations(is't so boring to see ur PC attacking in the same style over and over again!!!)
5. repetitive alien voice overs(ever heard of a rodian sound like a droid?!!?)
6. game engine(if they wish to retain the current game engine "AT LEAST GIVE MORE SHADOWS AND LIGHTING AND MOST IMPORTANT MORE REALISTIC TEXTURE AND ENVIRONMENT!!!)
for the moderators: is my avatar obscene, if so just tell me :)
for the moderators: is my avatar obscene, if so just tell me :)yes, and so is your location.
You know,
Your is too....
I'm from Holland, and we have an 'other' type of coffee shop :p
Sorry, I didn't realize it was LA's fault. I assumed they were sensible and would want to keep the target market with a complete game.
You haven't followed Lucasarts very closely then. Atleast not in recent years. They've been the poster boy for "fast and crappy quality over slow and good quality".
I haven't payed any attention to anything LA has been doing since KotOR came out.You know,
Your is too....
I'm from Holland, and we have an 'other' type of coffee shop :p
HOLLAND RULES! Have you ever been into a "coffee shop?". It's not pretty. None of that stuff is.
First time poster...thought this would b as good a place 2 start as any...
DO NOT WANT TO SEE:
- same planets, if we must hit the same planets, fine, make it quick and ez, but pls keep most of the plot on entirely new planets and pls let's hit the core worlds..
- same party npc's as the old one, I get the importace of HK and T3, but there could be different droids on this one (and if they bring G0T0 back I think I might kill someone)
- about the ship, some1 said to start in one ship and end in the Ebon Hawk, that's a good idea...
- don't really care for a ton of jedi in the party, 3-4 tops, you and your padawan, mayb a couple more.
- starting as a jedi...the PC might as well start as a sith, and mayb come to turn to the light side
- human starting PC only, so many races out there, let us start with something else
DON'T CARE EITHER WAY, BUT...
- i do want the story to end, but forget the Exile and Revan, they're both gone, start 2 generations of jedi after the Exile, say all those jedi trained @ the hawk became the new council, they have since died, brand new council (trained by them) and that's where you come in to clean up
Welcome to the Forums! :D
Anyways, I agree with all your ideas except for two. The alien thing and the forgetting of Revan and the Exile. There were too many unfinished things and unanswered questions. And I don't like the idea of being a alien, Star Wars is all about a human hero. Besides, I am a human, so it is natural to play as one.
@ The Doctor: Do you really think Holland is one big Weed paradise? Believe me, it isn't. Although it is easily to get, it isn't accepted by the country.
I live in the North-East part of Holland, near Groningen (the footballteam Arjen Robben came from before Chelsea and PSV) and we don't have problems with junks etc. it's mainly a problem in the big cities.
And i just said it to provocate :p I know foreigners have a strange view on these things.
@ Topic
What i don't want in K3:
-Wookie: Find something more original! Use a Noghri (assasin species) or a Plo Koon or something like that.
-Same Engine: I play tons of games, and Kotor is surpassed by all. Fable came out for X-Box too, and really looks better. I have an Ati Radeaon X700 Pro Advantage (Good card) and i can;t play Kotor on highest. It's just a port of the X-Box :s
-The Amnesia proces: Seems that every Jedi of the Old republic is suffering from it....
-More heads: i can't identify myself with the character i play. It's to static, to emotionless.
-Customisbale stuff: I would like some customisable robes and saber...would enhance the connection with your pc.
PS: If you are dutch, Doctor, i appolagise....we Dutch just talk and typ English to well...i couldn't read if you where Dutch or not :p
You have go to at least let there be an option for a Wookiee, say you go dark side or if you just are able to choose by yourself, you can get a Noghri/Trandoshan/whatever, but there needs to be a Wookiee for the wookiee lovers out there (like me :D)