I'm waiting on the 200 members-mark, and by that time all procedures on voting / structure will be set. I'm gunning for a separate forum on this..
Originally posted by Paragon_Leon
I'm waiting on the 200 members-mark, and by that time all procedures on voting / structure will be set. I'm gunning for a separate forum on this..
Definitely make a new forum for it. You really think that early (2oo mark)? You'd want to set up the forum as soon as you can so people can talk about who to vote for and all that stuff
I'm going to run away in terror:eek:
People being attacked in the dark recesses of the forum by the evil black letters.:D
But seriously like I said ealier we can wait a while BUT NOT UNITL THE GAME COMES OUT. We want to have a stong unified senate by then one that works well together and knows what they are doing. By the time GB comes out our Senate SHOULD be ready not just being established. If it goes that way we would lose a little interest because people start coming with questions about the game and we don't have a clue. So I say we start maybe sometime this month. DarthFergie has spoken...
Dark stuff indeed, fergie...
now people, we want as many folks as possible to read about the Senate-thing so they'll vote... could we keep this thread clean now please ?
(that means not replying if you simply want to say 'yes' or something slightly more elaborate) Thank you..
Well like I said, I think starting the forum as soon as possible and then vote the day or day before the game comes out. That way
1. People get used to the forum and get to know the people who are running.
2. Voting, say, the day before it comes out gets people more exicted about the release. And gets them more involved.
You'd have to have SOME Senators in place already though.
So far i'm leaning towards having 5 senator posts and one chancellor / mod type person who are all (or partly ?!) voted on..
Then when the game comes out, we can expand to maybe 10, even 20 Senators.
I dont know why I didn't see this thread (even though it has very populor)
But in reply to this post:
Originally posted by edwardc87
why don't we have Paragon_Leon as the Supreme Chancellor. he was the one who though of it!
I'm sorry that cannot happen. Since I AM EVIL! :evil1: that should make me the automatic ruler of the senate. And then right after I'll destroy it and become the one and only ruler of the forums!
:evil5:
Originally posted by TheJackal
I dont know why I didn't see this thread (even though it has very populor)
But in reply to this post:
I'm sorry that cannot happen. Since I AM EVIL! (:evil1:) that should make me the automatic ruler of the senate. And then right after I'll destroy it and become the one and only ruler of the forums!
:evil5:humor... don't you love it..
Eh? I don't believe that I've had the "pleasure" of talking to you Jackal. Hiya!
Anyway, I think the Chan. should be voted on just like in the movies by the Senators.
Hey.
Yeah I've been busy lately.
And NOTE: I am a "Super Moderator" also know as an Admiral around these forums. So behave. But if anybody reports what I said. OFF WITH YOUR HEADS!
ta!
:D
THAT's evil, folks.
don't you love me more now ? :D :D :D
Leon.....he scares me....
Anyway, Leon you think that the Chan. should be a mod? Why? I think maybe he could only have power in the "senate chamber"?
Deffinatly. Like Leon has power on these forums only. Good thinking on that one. That means Leon gets 4 areas to run. Oh sorry said to much...:D
I wonder if the forum should be passworded. That way, only sentators could post, but everyone could read it. And, the chancellor should be whoever is voted the Chancellor, although i wouldn't doubt it if that was Leon.
Oh, and Leon, i always loved you :D (even when your wrong)
Originally posted by Tie Guy
I wonder if the forum should be passworded. That way, only sentators could post, but everyone could read it. And, the chancellor should be whoever is voted the Chancellor, although i wouldn't doubt it if that was Leon.
Oh, and Leon, i always loved you :D (even when your wrong)
I don't know, leon has a lot on his hands as it is. I think a person with not so much responsiblity already should be Chan.
Kissing up again tie? ;)
Originally posted by TheJackal
And NOTE: I am a "Super Moderator" also know as an Admiral around these forums. So behave. But if anybody reports what I said. OFF WITH YOUR HEADS! :D
AH! Then I guess that I'm a Super-Moderator too! Don't worry guys, I'll hold him off while Paragorn_Leon takes control of the Senate. Go!! :D
Now if I can be serious for a minute... (eheh)
I approve Tie Guy's idea. Regular forummers must not be able to post in the Senate Forum, but they can still view the topics. Great idea!
Now, what's the next step? Here we are, talking about how great this idea would be, but we're not advancing. Surely there's something we can do while waiting for the 200 member mark that Leon loves so much :D
EDIT: Fear the typos...
So, i'm all confused....what is the official rules of the Senate? Could one of you mods post whats officially going on?
BTW Who gave jackal mod powers?
Originally posted by Kvan
I don't know, leon has a lot on his hands as it is. I think a person with not so much responsiblity already should be Chan.
Kissing up again tie? ;)
Nope, i'm just joking with him coz we normally disagree on stuff.
Leo said that he was going to have an official proposal by Saturday. All we can do until then is just discuss the small issues.
Alos, i think we should be talking about what it is actually that we are going to do. Any ideas?
Originally posted by Darth_Rommel
Well, thank you! I in turn nominate Kvan and >my master, TIE guy< :D When you joined the Empire you accepted me as your master, Rommel.
Originally posted by Tie Guy
Nope, i'm just joking with him coz we normally disagree on stuff.
Leo said that he was going to have an official proposal by Saturday. All we can do until then is just discuss the small issues.
Alos, i think we should be talking about what it is actually that we are going to do. Any ideas?
No, we don't disagree :D
Do you think we *ahem* they will discuss when to host Tournaments?
Why would Rommel serve some one who is Bantha fodder?:D
Originally posted by Kvan
BTW Who gave jackal mod powers?
He's been in the staff longer than me, but AFAIK, he designed the forum graphics for this site.
Correct me if I'm wrong, Jackal.
Originally posted by Sherack Nhar
He's been in the staff longer than me, but AFAIK, he designed the forum graphics for this site.
Correct me if I'm wrong, Jackal.
Whats AFAIK?
Please don't bring him here.
Scary guy (;) ) and Vader, I serve TIE guy and TIE guy alone, understand? ;)
Originally posted by Darth_Rommel
Scary guy (;) ) and Vader, I serve TIE guy and TIE guy alone, understand? ;)
Gee rommel, how many people have you "served". i guess you get around :D
A Vader look alike if you ask me. BECAUSE I AM THE REAL LORD VADER!!!!:D
Well maybe not but I like to think I am. and no I am not insane.(before you write it)
Originally posted by Darth_Rommel
You are insane :D
Your three word sentences are coming back rommel. :D
Back on topic; do you think we are going to have "Clans" here (maybe call them Regions or Worlds), that maybe the Senate can handle? And maybe the "Regions or Worlds" can be have a different title name (that title would have a World name), Like the "World of Tatooine". And the Senator can represent there World. What do you think?
How would the senator decide on his world though? :confused:
Well *I* like the idea that the positions (ie Senator of Naboo) , would be filled by having the MODS put the people that we have selected into them, so if there is an argument on who wants what world we can blame the mods :D
Mods are good, good people who work hard at what they do. Shame on you Kvan! Support the mods don't work against them, help them to do there job better...
j/k
Right, now can we get back on topic?
We've had 1 good suggestion so far, and that was that the senate could set up matches and things.
Any others? and please stay on topic here, if not everywhere.
Just so people know I edited my above post so hopefully it makes more sense...go read it again :D
I think Kvan has the right Idea there about thoose clans exept for the Mods. We should set up like 10 or 15 clans. Each should have 10 people running on each so we have certain candidates for each region. And we will urge people not to vote for the same candidate in different areas.:cool:
I think that there will only be 5 or 10 senate chairs at the moment, and i don't think that there are more than 10 or 15 people that are regulars who could possibly hold a seat. We couldn't possibly have 150 people running, we don't even have that many! We only need like 10 or 15 running, and i just said why.
Yeah I agree that there should only be 10 or senators/clans (I'd prefer to call them Worlds :) ). We don't want to make it too big yet. For the same reasons that Tie said (We agreed on something :D )
just to let you people know; i'll be cleaning up this thread a bit here and there so that it feels like a discussion instead of a chat..:D
I just finished reading this whole thread and it sounds like a good idea.
I am already part of an AOE:TC clan called TS
TS = The Siths
We have about 40 members so maybe we could get a representative in the senate to put our clans view points forward.
http://www.thetsclan.cjb.net) :)
I don't think we are going to make this inot a clan. It is just a way to get things done on the message board and to organize matches and other chats and threads....maybe. (We're not completely sure yet :D)
I can just see our clan though, PP= Powerfull Politicians :D
The thing is. In our clans who are our folowers. Will they get in it. Unfortunatly I now think that we must have 5-8 senate seats because our following wouldn't be to greatly big at the start.:cool:
TIE Guy--powerful politicians
Me---Sith Lords
:vadar: :emperor: vader and the emporor back me:D
Kvan, AFAIK means As Far As I Know.
I'm not sure if I like this World idea... what purpose would it serves?
OK I read though this whole topic and i am totaly lost....
What will this senate really do.
I like the idea of the senate fourm being read only to the normal people.
Who will be voting on the senators... The mod's, the people, or will the people put up nomanations and then the mod's would cast the vote.
I have more ideas in my head, but before i put them down i think you have to figure out just what this senate is going to do. That is the most important thing before you form this senate.
hmmm it will solve debates. and basically be the info authority. You basically become what Leon is...a mod. I think they are saying the people vote on it so far. The Senate does all sorts of other stuff...what we're not interily sure yet...LEON!!!! Where are you when he people need you?:D
Oh yes and welcome Wraith 5 to the wanderous world of GB forums.
Sherack Nhar the purpose of worlds is...is...ask Kvan:D
I'm eating and getting on with my life, that's where i'm going from time to time... :D
My initial idea for a Senate (but it has changed over time in this thread) is, in a nutshell:
having a select group of Senators (nominated and voted upon by forum-members), with a Chancellor at the head (probably (?) a mod to ensure he can actually have practical 'steering powers').
This group meets in a separate forum once every week / every other week / every month / whatever-as-long-as-it's-regularly to discuss the following:
- discuss matches played between forum members
- write out tournaments
- discuss cheating-issues (a spin on 'taxation of trade routes, eh ? :D )
- discuss happenings in the other forums where certain members were involved.
Basically it's a gathering to put some official gaming-weight to these forums, keep people involved in it and even discuss things like cheating or certain below-the-belt-strategies in public without the endless word-arguments.
Plus, it's going to liven things up a lot in my mind. :D
A Senate-meeting would have a set agenda, voted upon beforehand, and Senators would only be allowed a certain number of posts per meeting to ensure that it actually makes sense.
I'm right now writing a complete fleshed out proposal with all the feedback from this thread in mind and will post that in the weekend. By that time i might know more about a separate forum / other possibilities.
Hmm, i posted this in another forum but i will put it here coz it has to do with this.
If you look at all the polls we only have about 15 or les votes each. Is that really enough to elect 5 or so different people. Also, 6 or so of those votes come from people that would be nominated, so thats' even less than 15. more like 9 or 10 unless you wan to let the condidates vote. U propse that wee have the people nominate the candidates and then the mods select them. This is their forum, and we're lucky that they are letting us do this (even though i don't see anything that would be objectionable). Don't you think that they should at least have some say in this?
i'd imagine mods have a veto-kind of vote in things like that.
in no way is the Senate designed to interfere with moderating the board. it's not like some internal coup d'etat.. o wait, that did happen in the movies... :D
I've stated time and time again that i wanted to wait until we had hit the 200 member-mark to even get a full proposal on the table, but some were too impatient.. :p
My guess is that we'd start out with 5 Senators. And maybe there's an option that can get a private message out to every single forum-member, pointing them to a vote. I'll have to talk to chris about that.
Almost anything is possible, folks.. i have a dream...
Originally posted by Paragon_Leon
I'm right now writing a complete fleshed out proposal with all the feedback from this thread in mind and will post that in the weekend. By that time i might know more about a separate forum / other possibilities.
Yup, get working on that document, Leon, because I've got good news. I've talked to Chris about this senate thing, and so far he says it sounds good. The separate forum will be possible (with the senator-only posting / everyone can view it). He's waiting on a official proposal from your part before we really get things moving. I told him that you wouldn't send it to him before we reach the 200-members mark, so no worries there.
hmmm... This dream is quickly becoming reality. A quick question: will all the mods automatically get a seat?
thanks Sherack.
so people; if you really want to speed this up, start recruiting forum members ! hehe... i already did in the heavengames aok forum..
So Leon, what do you think about my idea of "worlds/clans"?
Kvan,
i think clans would make a better thing to be represented. Clans are existing groups, already active in gaming and it might even help create some new ones exclusive to these boards or even beyond..
The problem with being 'world'-senators is the same as with Avatars.. once one is taken, someone else is upset. it shouldn't be 'first come, first served..'
Maybe in time will we give some official extensions to Senator-titles that incorporate idea's. Right now Senators for clans seems like a great idea. Look for it in the whole proposal..
thanks for the input !