Greer just contacted you w/ a location for you to meet up with the ship and trade the hostage, and, if it's still on, help with the assasin situation. And yes, I am doing this for the conflict it will result in with the new guild's price on Flax's head and Greer already having paid the Vilnovs to not kill him.

The Vilnovs have taken no contract yet, JM, and when they do it doesn't have to be Flax. :D

Plus, you don't really have to get thru Greer to kill Flax even if they had that contract ;)

Well, gee if they find out they're gonna be on the same ship, I think they'd try to take it. And you don't think greer's gonna let 2 assasins run wild on a ship with so many important people in it, do ya?

Oooooo.... this could get very interesting:) Me like:p

Grrrrrrrrrrr! POST EATEN

*Goes to happy place.*

*Comes back to thread.*

AS I posted before, there were lots of Dark Jedi under the Emperor.

The Emperor's Hands for one

Then there have bean numerous other EU references.

What about the seven Dark Jedi in JK. How do you think Sarris got that skull plate. ;)

Mmmmmm JK ^_^

nothing like playing THAT game at 1600x1200 ^_^

Calling all Deacs, calling all Deacs, the focus of the RPG is going to be shifting to Coruscant in the next few days, before Scar leaves on Monday...where are you? ;)

Originally posted by Redwing
RPG is going to be shifting to Coruscant in the next day

*Staggers back in*

Self: Half....Life...Two....greatest....game...ever

*Collapses*

[Sorry, will be getting back to it posthaste]

*toasts w/ deac*
TO HL2! TO THE GRAVITY GUN! TO THE ****ING AWESOME PHYSICS!

*Lurches through the door.*

Halo....2....Going....To....Kill me!

*Collapses due to exaustion.*

(I was playing for six straight hours, my feet fell to sleep.)

Right, my characters have previously been accused of being un-Jedi like. I would say that is accurate, all my characters have a floor of some kind and they lack the calm of prequel era Jedi.

Now to the case in point:

1. Flax has already stated that he does not follow the chivalric code, because it's fake. (I am working on my own honour code, which warriors are required to follow but every mercy will be counter balenced by an expediant.

2. Assassins are the lowest form of life.

3. The only reason Flax consented to a duel was because the alternative might be some dead Alliance soldiers, or the assassin's escape.

Oh, I'm sure that assassins aren't the lowest form, easily...

I'm sure you have that opinion on F. Irvine already. :)

No, assassins are the lowest form of life, they make a proffesion of cold blooded killing. FYI, they're closely followed by rapists and child murderers.

thats in your opinion imho


what you stated after would be my opinion lower

true its not the most perfectly honest thing

but the difference between a rapist and murders, assassins either believe it enough that they are doing it for a cuase or they're just doing it for sport OR just for money. child murders are just mentally unstable and what not. and Rapists are just too perverted and cant keep their cock in their damned pants

I'm surprised no one noticed BD using floor instead of flaw ;)


and I do have to agree with Scar, while assassins do kill for money, it doesn't make them the lowest life from around.

Looking purely at SW, there are many lower levels. For instance Palpatine, Tarkin, Vader.

They killed in cold blood on a massive scale, and more often then not the reason was to keep the populace terrified and under their control.

and there are plenty more...

Originally posted by BattleDog
No, assassins are the lowest form of life, they make a proffesion of cold blooded killing. FYI, they're closely followed by rapists and child murderers.

Flax is free to think this but it's patently ridiculous. Better to kill someone or a few someones for money then kill millions or horribly ruin lives.

Oh, as for what happened to Behemoth, wondering how that doesn't qualify as godmoding. (Although it sort of needed to happen, Scar has to leave tomorrow...)

yeah how does it not f***ing qualify as godmoding.

Also, BD, wondering what Flax meant by "a demon". Scar's demons aren't literally demons and they certainly aren't inherently evil. Even if they were literally demons they're not any demons Flax could've encountered, being from another universe.

Plus, B. called himself a dragon, not a demon. The two are in no way equivalent. And, red scales do not equal demon. And and, the so-called 'demons' previously seen in these RPGs are not invulnerable to blaster fire.

Okay, about what happened to Behemoth:

If that was a Force power, it's ridiculously over the top and is certainly godmoding. (Yoda couldn't have pulled that off!) Also, it was a patently cruel, patently Dark Side, no excuse, no two ways about it. If that was technology...well, going out on a limb I'd say it was completely impossible, first because it sounds ridiculous, and there's no purpose to having it in some random hallway if it really did exist.

And before you say that it was necessary to move the plot along, and Scar is overreacting, remember you threw a fit when I had a character who was temporarily ridiculously powerful, unique, the archvillain, and doomed to die in the RPG anyway, telekinetically throw Flax out of a skyscraper window. [Along with a bunch of other characters, including my own!] That seems extremely minor compared to this. :)

1. Had to happen, not even going to argue about that

2. The Force power is legit, all Flax did was create a force field and suck the air out through a hole, then block it up. Wurth Skidder did it in NJO. Thats where I got the idea from.

3. Demons are a concept Flax has, Behamoth used a key word Dragon. That's to Flax what WMD is to a world leader. To Flax Dragon and Demon are the same thing.

4. Never said the trick killed him.

5. I assumed Scar would just come up with a way out of it anyway. How's this, there's an air supply good for two days in there. If Behamoth respires like a human he has a good six hours to come up with something.

6. Had he not been immune to blaster fire I would have shot him with a stun bolt.

7. Reff assassins: I can accept that murderers and rapists are patently sick in the head and are basic wackos. Assassins are people who make a rational choice to enter a proffession which is centred around killing in cold blood.

Mass murderers, child rapists and megalomaniac evil warlords are not even forms of life.

dude it don't matter, something like that requires years of training anyway

and don't give me that 'oh he has been for several years'. One character can only train and do so much stuff (Ie rule over a race of people, isnt that what Flax's occupation is again?)

but seriously, i cant look at any of your agamarian (what ever you spell it) Jedi, as Jedi in ANY sense

they're too arrogant, you make em so that they have too much power when its not possible, even with a force boost from Soephae. the human body can only take so much, reguardless if its 'boundless'

if even that, just generaly that you have characters that seem to know powers with out training
use them in the manner definately not jedi-like

and with soephae give her 'revenge' on F. irvine by making him 'feel pain'

look, if someone's a jedi, no matter which race you look at it. they HAVE to be devoted to what they're doing. if their ont he light side, act it

there is one constant in theSW universe that i definately know that exsists in our little universe. is that the each side of the force isn't quite one or the other, in more then one ways it has shades of grey. but if you're light, you can't be acting arrogant and such. granted i don't know EU as much as anyone here, but f**k, if your entire 'agamarian' race acted like all of your characters are now, they wouldnt have been noble.


i dont care if that dont make sense to you or not. just stop and think about what your character is going to have before YOU MAKE IT

i know my characters have flaws
f**k, f. Irvine's personality has changed so meny times i have no idea what the count is. but that fits his character

Irvine he's way too emo-ish. but heck the whole trip itself has been stressful on him anyway, Ie from a possible soon-to-be-jedi to on cracken's ship en route to korriban. he made the mistake in his life that he uses the force too much that he relies on it. so when cracken had ysamari (correction pls) he fliped out, he went into a force depravision. (correction pls)

then of course being somewhat corrupted being on the very soil of korriban (which made cracken pleased anyway), with that the very dark power thats on that planet he struck out agenst cracken when he heard that he had a sister and cracken kept htat from him. but continueing on he got upset that he didnt know what to do on the executor during the trip to it, cus of his sister sititng right next to him, and he just remembered why didnt cracken tell him. it really ticked him off....

Sir-vin and cracern. earily on from what i heard from red and admiral, that i made the two characters have the same personality reguardless of what side of a conversation that eac would be on.
well i just let the characters grow a bit, change what they do in the long time skips, even a name change :rolleyes:

[edit]let's not forget one more thing. what is not Flax who dressed up in shards and robes, and whom used stealth and what not to kill F. Irvine on a moon of coruscant? Sure he may not have doen it for money, but he sure did use it in a very 'assassiny' method.

if you dont remember it, i sure as hell do. its after the aesir drop f. irvine and a few more people on coruscant's moon before he becomes all more evil-like

IE: his corpse becomes reanimated by the ghost of Vertmor, and there fore he turns it into his body.

forgot how i got back F. Irvine tho...

1. It could have been done simply in a different way. A gravity trap. A mind trick. Leading Behemoth into some sort of other trap. [That larger area he requested for example.]

2. I can't find details of this Force power online, so taking it at face value. Simply put, Jedi cannot make impenetrable force fields. Certainly they can make force fields, but can you imagine Protection lasting 5+ minutes when being presumably pounded on by near-superweapons. And, if Flax can actually do that, it's definitely godmoding.

3. No, because while WMDs exist dragons do not. Before you say "Mrear" and "Drago", no, at least some Mrear dragons aren't anything like, close to, or resembling demons. (Up to Deac for specifics obviously.)

Now look what 'dragon' actually means in the Star Wars universe context (http://www1.theforce.net/cuswe/search.asp?search=dragon).

I see lots and lots of dragons but no mention of demons.

4. We/I know. Not the issue.

5. *Shrug*

6. See above.

7. Neither murderers nor rapists are necessarily sick in the head. Many make rational choices to do what they do and for worse reasons than money. And they can cause alot more damage because it's often personal.

Mass murderers, child rapists and megalomaniac evil warlords are not even forms of life.

They are living so they are forms of life, which makes them lower than assassins. ;p

Anyway, I'm pretty much going to drop this last subject, because discussing it is both pointless and distasteful.

I just have a simple question.

How does the presence of Dragon Scales imply the person is a dragon/demon. In PTH Drago had a Dragon Scale shield. Behemoth could simply have dragon Scale armor.

and just for fun:

If assassins are low forms of life since they kill for money that means every soldier is on the same level since they get paid to kill the "enemies of the government." Snipers are assassins except they work for the military.

Since we are not considering anything other then getting paid to kill a person in determining their position among forms of life, Flax is worse then an assassin. Consider that he knowingly sends people to their deaths, gets paid to kill people and puts a lot of thought into it before hand, is seeking vengenance against others, and is about to wage a war to gain a title and more power.

Well when you strip Flax of his reason and motivations and look at him purely in this light he is no better then palpatine or Vader.
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A jedi should know that there may be mitigating circumstances to any actions and would not act so quickly. A Leader would know that and wouldn't if he was good and not evil would not condemn a person knowing only the most superficial and possible wrong information....

Well, its about an hour before i go.
i dont think deac's going to reply anytime soon, and i'm sure that BD's going to be too much of a douche to reply anytime soon, until i leave (remember you can flame all you want after this, but it wont make a lick of difference cus i wont be able to see it!!)

Red, you got my characters :)
you know what i want with F. Irvine ^_^

as for RH Irvine, let em get to his home planet :)

Right to explain the Dragon thing:

In the Lahara Sector, on the edge of the Cowl Crucible is a planet named Tarsis. Tarsis is a lush and verdant world, with a dark secret.

Any ships that remains on the surface for more than 30 minutes totally loses power, the same is true for anything that uses any kind of power cell. The same effect prevents orbital bombardment.

The cause of this phenomonon is unknown since it has never been studied. What is known is that the native population is a mix of extremly nasty sentient species.

The Agamarians take it apon themselves to fight these creatures on their home world because the beings once escaped causing catastrophic damage.

One of the creatures on the planet is an extremly vicious bipedal lizzard, commonly reffered to as "Dragons" along with several other aparently related species.

All the creatures on this planet are refered to as Demons.

I have to cut this short because I want to edit what Flax did, since everyone was so upset with it, hopefully Scar will see it before he leaves.

Right, to continue with the appologies and explanations.

I still feel Scar got himslef into this mess, all he had to do was capitulate to the two blasters, the truth is I over-reacted because I got angry and I just wanted to kill Behamoth and move on. That was out of character for Flax.

As to skill I would point out that Flax is very strong in the Force, has been trained from age five and is now just shy of 50.

As to another way of stopping Behamoth. Flax can't do any kind of mind trick beyond the basic "I hear a pebble over there" sort of thing.

He also can't read minds very well beyond a general sence of the person.

He is also still a little unbalenced for the moment.

I do feel that general attacks on my characters are unfair.

Flax may seem a bit arrogant, well okay. He is a little bit, his temper is his weakness, as I've stated before.

I can only plead stress on my own part and a frustration with Scar and this whole bussiness. I'm afraid I'm under some stress at the moment and it shows through my characters.

I drop the point about assassins. I just don't like to be proved wrong.

Alright, I understand.

Okay, so looks like I'm playing Fused Irvine and RH Irvine for the remainder of this RPG. Ack. Well, I wasn't planning on it, but Scar is right, I do know exactly what he wants to happen, having extensively discussed it on IM (and I helped design F. Irvine's Sleeper powers.)

But right now, I need to write, proofread, and rewrite a five-page paper in about 2 hours and 20 minutes, so I won't be replying until tonight. Unless I finish early. ;)

Originally posted by jokemaster
Well, gee if they find out they're gonna be on the same ship, I think they'd try to take it. And you don't think greer's gonna let 2 assasins run wild on a ship with so many important people in it, do ya?


It would help if you actually recognized that Nom and Tarila have arrived at the coordinates you specified...:D

I think JM's gone on vacation or something :D

So I guess I'm stuck till he gets back:(

Well, it is Thanksgiving. Was. Yesterday.

>.>

True... he'll probably be getting back soon then... my family has never gone out of town for Thanksgiving... yesterday was the first time in about 9 years that we've been able to celebrate as a family.

Figure i better repost this.... it's been awhile.....

Emperor Cracken Hideki Palpatine

Age:50? (Best Guestimate by NRI)
Race: Human
Sex: Male
Hair: Black
Eyes: Brown
Height: 5'10"?
Weight: Unknown
Weapon: Lightfoil

Background:

Emperor Cracken Hideki Palpatine was born at the beginning of the Clone War. Hidden from public eye, he was wisked away to Korriban, where he learned of the Dark Side of the Force, and began his studies in Sith Lore and Power. His father new that should the Jedi ever find out about his hier, he would be meet with death.

His training during the beginning was from Count Dooku, also known as Lord Tyrannus, who taught him his Lightfoil techniques. After the Clone War, his father and Lord Vader, once Anakin Skywalker, continued his trainning in Saber combat and Force wielding. Many consider him to be the most dangerous Sith Lord in Galactic History.

2 years before the Battle of Endor, Cracken was stationed on Corellia, where he meet a woman, whom he eventually married and had twins with. Despite Lord Vader's protests, this was allowed; however, Cracken was called away 2 months before his children were born.

When his father died 1 month later, 1 month before his children were to be born, Cracken took a portion of the fleet and fled to the Unknown Region, where he was instructed to wait until the completion of his fathers lastest project, the Crimson Star, being built in secret into one of Coruscant's moons. It would be a weapon so devastating it could alone claim victory for the Empire. Thus, Cracken's children grew up not knowing anythig about thier father. Alysara and Irvine were seperated at birth, to prevent any threat to the throne should thier heritage be found out, and have death marks placed on thier heads for relation to Emperor Palpatine.

Leading up to the Crimson Star War, Cracken encounterd Deac, and his band of fighters, whom he quickly befriended and eventually betrayed. His death was not his end however, as he used an ancient Sith Mind Transfer Technique upon his death to transfer to the one clone of his body that had existed. The physical now didn't match the mental, as it is believed Cracken's age of about 50 no longer meets the appearence of a 30 year old male.

Following the Crimson Star War, now Emperor Cracken took control of the Empire, and carved out a treaty with the New Republic and laid claim to a portion of the galaxy. Following this was the Imperial Civil War, an uprising amongs the Imperial Elite who wished to continue the fighting. This was easily won by the Emperor, who annihilated Ulna'Shardes in a massive weapons test that firebombed the entire planet. Reletha Darkstarr survived.

Cracken went missing sometime during the Vampiric Invasion of Coruscant, and until recently, his wear about have been unknown. He has resumed rule over the Empire, and named Alysara as his heir, and applty, the title of Princess.

((Alysara's profile will be posted later.))

I suppose I should post this.

Jammes Windrider

Age: 52 (ish)

Race: Human

Height: 6'2"

Build: Lean

Hair: Light brown

Eyes: Blue

Weapon: Sabre Staff/Light Rapier

Bio: Jammes windrider is the older brother of the twins Sophae and Sellenna Windrider. Like his siblings he grew up privilaged and became a Sword Brother at the age of 17, skilled with the longsword, rapier and staff he is a warrior virtually without compare.

When his two sisters left to join the Rebellion Jammes set out to find them, his sense of duty soon drew him into the conflict and he became a Jedi Knight under Master Tae Akaris, after Master Akaris' death Jammes sought out and exicuted his mentor's murderer, this was the first dark Jedi he killed, but not the last. In the final years of the Rebellion Jammes hunted and exicuted the servants the the Emperor, including an Eperor's Hand.

Jammes formed a friendship out of neseccity with Taklin Flax, lest he drive his beloved sister from him. However, Jammes never felt easy with Flax, the man raised on a farm became the most powerful Earl on Agamar and Jammes always resented this.

After Sophae was murdered by th derranged demon known as Ivrine Cracern Jammes blamed his brother in law for not protecting his sister.

"Lord Flax is the one responsible for Sophae's death and I will have his head on a spike!"

Cracken, Reletha Darkstar wasn't on Ulna Shardes when it was destroyed. It was Lokpihet Darkstar. Reletha had disappeared after the destruction of the old Imperial Council and didn't reappear until she became Chancellor of the New Republic.

*Wakes up from post-thanksgiving hibernation period*
*burps*
I'm baaaaaaaaaaack

About Jammes being disabled: if I had to make a judgement call, I'd say that power should last only as long as Cracken is concentrating on it, and it should be able to be broken with enough of a mental battle. I didn't say anything beforehand because I didn't notice that Cracken had the effect lasting after he teleported away.

Thoughts? (Especially from Cracken, since I haven't had the opportunity to discuss this with him on AIM and I usually do so with Sleeper stuff)

I don't like the fact that he's stuck there, its unnescessary and he's now basically dead, since once he breaks out he has to get through all those troops.

Ok, i'll edit it out.

Sorry for the inconvinience.

Somebody PM me when my characters have something to respond to again.

Sorry, my fault for not posting during thanksgiving.

If you were in a place that you could post, I growl at you... GRRRRRRRRRR!!! :D see? Said I'd do it and now you know I would.:p

If you weren't in a place that you could post, don't worry about it... thinking about bringing in another character anyway... not sure yet if I'll do that or not.

Just a little FYI. Since alot of us are going through finals, some of us, most importantly Cracken, won't be posting much/at all till next week. (Or longer. Not sure about Cracken since I didn't ask him for specifics :D)

In fact, I should be studying right now myself...;)

Just so no one thinks the RPG's dead before its time :)

I JUST FINISHED MY LAST FINAL!!!

Hooray for Jokemaster!

I don't suppose I should tell anybody that I'm done with high school... oops, I did! :p

So've I, but I'm talking about college finals here ;)

of course, you had to ruin my fun there, Redwing... but I don't have those yet either... I'm at the happy stage of being in between high school and college (unfortunately with a job that pays me next to nothing (still money though, right?):D

Eh, famous quotes from exam week. All of them real
My bud *shaking random student yelling hysterically *:WE'RE ALL GONNA FLUNK! FLUNK I TELL YOU!
Exam proctor: All right, you're going to take this test, you're gonna flunk, if you finish early just sit quietly and think happy thoughts. If you have a question raise your hand and I will do my utmost to confuse you.
*after final exam is over*
Bud: THUS ENDS THE FLUNKING DISASTER OF EPIC PROPORTIONS. ENJOY THE FIRST WEEK OF HOLIDAYS, 'CAUSE WHEN REPORT CARDS ARRIVE, WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!

HA! Crazy Americans have exams before christmas!

(I have mine in January, well some of them.)

No exam week BD?

FYI: Prepare your cliffhangers if so desired. Thread should end VERY soon (if there's no objections) :)