Originally posted by Amidala from Chop Shop
AIVAS, you raise a very interesting philisophical question. You are saying that "honor" people can distort and mutilate the game beyond all recognition because they have the "right" and "freedom" to play the game they want to, and, to quote you:
So apparently, these people have an unlimited right to "play" the game the way they want to, correct?
OK, I can see you nodding your head yes. So let me give you some hypothetical cases (my apologies in advance to anyone who is offended by these hypothetical examples):
CASE 1: some people make a server called the "Ku Klux Klan server". The MOTD is "White Power, death to all ni**ers and Jews". They have made skins that look like Ku Klux Klan robes, and have "klan" maps that feature burning crosses. They spawn unarmed bots that have the African American Human Male Jedi skin and chase them around shooting them, hacking them with lightsabers, and using Grip to strangle them to death. They attack and ampunish anyone who disagrees with or argues with them, and they require you to say something racist before beginning a duel with them. Under your theory of "they can play the game any way they want to, even though it wasn't designed to be played that way", there is nothing wrong with this, correct?
CASE 2: some other people (maybe in Poland or Germany) make an "Auschwitz" or "Dachau" server. The MOTD is "Arbeit mach frei" ("Work will make you free"). The members of the clan that runs the server use either this skin:
http://www.jk2files.com/screenshots/38/files2/22435_1.jpg)
or this skin:
http://www.jk2files.com/screenshots/38/files2/22319_1.jpg)
The clan map looks like a concentration camp, and, well, I think I'll leave a description of what goes on there to your imagination. Under your theory of unlimited freedom to "play the game as you choose to, and F*** people who try to stop you", there is nothing wrong with this either, correct?
Now, I'm not saying "honor" players are racists or sometimes behave like Nazis or anything, I am asking you if your philosophy would support those types of servers. If you say yes, then you are intellectually consistent. If you say no, in those cases that behavior goes over the line, then who gets to decide when people have gone over the line and should be criticized? You? Me? Kurgan?
I don't see what the problem is. Why shouldn't they? If they want to act against jews, or other ethnic/racial/religeous groups, let 'em, it's not like it's doing any damage to anything/one. But if they try to force that on other people NOT on their server, then that's different, as it may be against the server's rules.
It may be wrong to be against any certain group of people, but if they are, hosting one server like that isn't going to change anything, other than keep them out of our servers. I mean, nobody is angry at christians for saying that us missing links don't exist do they? Hey, look! I GOT OVER IT.
In a nutshell: If they wanna discriminate against anything/one on their server, that's their choice.