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WIP Episode I Obi-Wan by Tex360, Arco, NeoMarz1, and Myself

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 Toonces
10-20-2002, 11:17 PM
#1
Tex made this very nice model a number of months ago and Arco and I are finishing him up.

The skin is very very early, and I'm still trying to get the geometry on his head right, any crits would be apprishated :)

http://www.drivingcatstudios.com/images/obia1.jpg)
http://www.drivingcatstudios.com/images/obia2.jpg)
 seks03
10-20-2002, 11:22 PM
#2
looks really good hopefully you'll add a robe
 Kranckor
10-21-2002, 1:07 AM
#3
Those eyes..............I will forever be haunted by those eyes...........
 skywalker19
10-21-2002, 2:15 AM
#4
eyes are kinda freaky lookin,i imagine they wont look that way once he's completly skinned though.
 Toonces
10-21-2002, 2:21 AM
#5
Yeah, they give me nightmares too ;)

I just slapped one of ravens textures on them for now, it'll look quite a bit different fully skinned
 ReIIiK
10-21-2002, 3:49 AM
#6
lol, about the eyes, awsome job none the less!
 12thMonkey
10-21-2002, 4:59 AM
#7
He looks a bit like the Incredible Hulk with those eyes :D.

Joke ;)
 _NinjaGaiden_
10-21-2002, 1:01 PM
#8
Hopefully the eyes will be fixed when you Skin that other than that it loks pretty good
 seks03
10-23-2002, 5:36 AM
#9
has there been any work done to this model toonces?

to everyone who wants to see all of this models pictures can visit

http://www.jedimoves.com/)

under the request page
 MysticSpade
10-23-2002, 6:24 AM
#10
has anyone taken up the task of finishin the Ep2 Obi wan model by Tex as well. i thought it looked rather nice.
 superdude201
10-23-2002, 7:27 AM
#11
Originally posted by MysticSpade
has anyone taken up the task of finishin the Ep2 Obi wan model by Tex as well. i thought it looked rather nice.

Yeah i thought that model looked cool too and i was wondering the other day what had happend to it.
 Kururin
10-23-2002, 8:19 AM
#12
Originally posted by seks03
has there been any work done to this model toonces?

to everyone who wants to see all of this models pictures can visit

http://www.jedimoves.com/)

under the request page


Quit talking about that site it's stupid anyways. or you can put it in your signature.
 -s/<itzo-
10-25-2002, 11:40 AM
#13
hey toonces i have an idea. make an anakin skin using tex's epI obi as the base.

just for now till' terc finishes his model.

and since you're busy skinning tex's models consider mars to skin it, he's pretty good. anybody seen his latest qui gon skin, very accurate i might add. and i think with his talent he can pull it off.

what do you think????
 Eldritch
10-25-2002, 11:52 AM
#14
Jolts has an excellent ep1 Obi wan model as well... I believe it needs UVmaps and a skin though. He's not going to have much time with it because he's with WLS and they're about to get busy, so he's looking for someone to hand it off to. Anyone interested should contact him.

I also think that his model would make a better base for an Anakin skin... it's not quite as bulky as Tex's Obi Wan is, which is perfect for Anakin because he's skinny.
 Phaedrus
10-25-2002, 2:01 PM
#15
His nose seems a little off, can't quite put my finger on how though. Maybe once color's been added it'll look different.
 Phaedrus
10-25-2002, 2:03 PM
#16
and his mouth, he's usually got a pissed off look, or when he's fighting he sometimes has that look as if he's rolling his tongue around in his mouth. I'm just glad this is being brought back to life, this and the Ep. II are the 2 models I've wanted more than anything.
 Toonces
10-25-2002, 2:19 PM
#17
Alright guys, gonna need some good crits :) Arco put down a very nice base skin but the geometry is quite a bit off :(
http://drivingcatstudios.com/images/obiearly.jpg)
 Professor Snape
10-25-2002, 3:28 PM
#18
whoa he went from freaky and scary to right on. Great job toon
 Toonces
10-25-2002, 3:34 PM
#19
heh, thanks, I'm not sure he's right on yet though, Arco's skin may be, but the geometry is still a bit off, we'll keep tweaking :)

Originally posted by NeoMarz1 in the Qui-Gon thread

I Agree the model looks pretty good. How bout the polygons under the eyes (Obi). Do you think that is good enough?

I haven't taken a look at it yet, I'll do so now
 keo718
10-25-2002, 7:24 PM
#20
-Nose position is too low. Raise it up so that the start of the bridge is between the eyes.

-Move up the mouth along with the nose. It should be closer to the nose than it is now.

-The chin needs to be moved up alot.

-The eyes are too far apart.

http://cgi.theforce.net/theforce/multimedia/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Images/Episode_1/Characters/Obi-Wan_Kenobi&image=owk-ig02.jpg&img=48&tt=)
 NeoMarz1
10-26-2002, 11:32 AM
#21
Ok, Good news here I am working the skin out! I should have a full rough in tonight! I'm sending Toonces some screenshots, so stay tuned. It's looking real good. I got to get some web space, so I can get some screenshots out!
 Toonces
10-26-2002, 2:42 PM
#22
Cool Mars, I look forward to seeing it :)

Made a few tweaks
http://drivingcatstudios.com/images/obiearly10.jpg)

I have a very good idea of what other changes I have to make to have it be more accurate, I'm going to wait until I get a new skin from Arco.
 12thMonkey
10-26-2002, 5:49 PM
#23
His chin in general looks far to fat and makes the face seem chubby.
 Eldritch
10-26-2002, 7:09 PM
#24
I have to agree... his face is definitely weird. And with the grey hair and sagging face, he reminds me of my grandmother...

And are those violet eyes? Freaky, Toonces...
 Toonces
10-26-2002, 9:34 PM
#25
heh, yeah, just a placeholder, his eyes will be a different color soon

An update from Mars, using the OLD head, I just sent him the tweaks. Head is Photosourced which Mars is exceptionally good at doing properly :)

http://www.drivingcatstudios.com/images/final1.jpg)
http://www.drivingcatstudios.com/images/final2.jpg)
http://www.drivingcatstudios.com/images/final3.jpg)
http://www.drivingcatstudios.com/images/final4.jpg)
 Hellfire Jedi
10-26-2002, 9:40 PM
#26
Topic says it all :D,
And Toonces a few things that skin mars did looks great
When do u plan on releasing mace, obi, and qui
and (sorry im going off topic =/) what server do u go on for promod?
 keo718
10-26-2002, 10:24 PM
#27
Those skins by Mars look good. Any head on shots? Good job with the tweaks as well. Just a few things.

-Raise his jawbone slightly. Right now the area between his jaw and chin sag downward.
-Try moving his eyes and eyebrows closer together, and down a bit.
-The chin and overall head(including the hair) should be a bit more narrow.
-Finally, his ears are too big.

edit: Eyes are also too big vertically.

http://www.geocities.com/eo718/owk-ig02.jpg)

copy & paste
 AlzWisHum
10-26-2002, 10:31 PM
#28
I usually do not make any remark posts, but... I'd like to say: Quite excellent; this model and Mace are amazing, indeed! Really great work!

May the Force be with ya! ;)
 NeoMarz1
10-27-2002, 12:10 AM
#29
Originally posted by JEDI_Anakin_S
Jolts has an excellent ep1 Obi wan model as well... I believe it needs UVmaps and a skin though. He's not going to have much time with it because he's with WLS and they're about to get busy, so he's looking for someone to hand it off to. Anyone interested should contact him.

I also think that his model would make a better base for an Anakin skin... it's not quite as bulky as Tex's Obi Wan is, which is perfect for Anakin because he's skinny.

I just finished an Anakin varient of the Obi Model. Toonces may post it soon! Mars out!
 Eldritch
10-27-2002, 12:43 AM
#30
Originally posted by Toonces
heh, yeah, just a placeholder, his eyes will be a different color soon

An update from Mars, using the OLD head, I just sent him the tweaks. Head is Photosourced which Mars is exceptionally good at doing properly :)

http://www.drivingcatstudios.com/images/final1.jpg)
http://www.drivingcatstudios.com/images/final2.jpg)
http://www.drivingcatstudios.com/images/final3.jpg)
http://www.drivingcatstudios.com/images/final4.jpg)

I figured it was a placeholder, Toonces. About Mars' Obi skin... all I can say is wow. I've never actually seen a photosourced face done well before (they've all just been primitive cut, paste & smear/blend jobs)... would like to see some close ups of that face. As for the nitpicking, Keo beat me to it, but it's amazing what a great skin will do.

And I would very much like to see that Anakin variant Mars said he finished, Toonces... so whenever you get around to posting pics again, post some of those please. :D
 Primrodo
10-27-2002, 1:59 AM
#31
The buckle looks wrong Toonces...Looks more anakin like
 NeoMarz1
10-27-2002, 10:49 AM
#32
I just got an excellent idea! Im gonna do a "Dark apprentice" Varient... With a Black robe. The robe seems to cause a lot of clipping, but if Obi's outfit was all black, it would be less apparent. Mars out!
 MysticSpade
10-27-2002, 11:24 AM
#33
so does this mean it will be out shortly. or are you still doing some tweaks.
 Arco
10-27-2002, 11:25 AM
#34
hey mars not bad but there is problems that come with photosourcing (which is why I don't do it) your hues are way off.... He needs to be more pasty faced and put some colour variation in there. Also it looks like he lacks texture on his face and the hair is wacky right now. Also seams appear to be everywhere on him. Nontheless... GREAT job.

Expect an update from me soon guys... just as soon as I finish mace windu.

Arco:deathii:
 NeoMarz1
10-27-2002, 1:04 PM
#35
Originally posted by Arco
hey mars not bad but there is problems that come with photosourcing (which is why I don't do it) your hues are way off.... He needs to be more pasty faced and put some colour variation in there. Also it looks like he lacks texture on his face and the hair is wacky right now. Also seams appear to be everywhere on him. Nontheless... GREAT job.

Expect an update from me soon guys... just as soon as I finish mace windu.

Arco:deathii:

I agree with your points, The hair looks pretty crazy up close (this I know), one problem I find when using characters with realistic (fine detailed hair) is that it looks like salt and pepper when being rendered in the game. Also colors (when being rendered in the game) tend to be way lighter than the actual textures. Example: Obi's tunic is cream colored, but in the game comes out to be way to white... I may adjust this not sure.

Yeah, I agree on the "lack of texture" as well. I tend to like a smooth look, which is my own flaw. I am going to work this out. Thanks, Arco. I really have hoped to here a critique from you. Thanks again. Mars out!
 Gen_Blade
10-27-2002, 1:09 PM
#36
will there be a version without the cloke ?
 t3rr0r
10-27-2002, 1:09 PM
#37
 Toonces
10-27-2002, 1:19 PM
#38
There will be a version without the robe, the default actually doesn't have a robe on :)

I just got a early pk3 from Mars, when I have a few seconds I'll pop him ingame and take some screenies for you guys
 AlzWisHum
10-27-2002, 9:12 PM
#39
Hey Toonces,

I had a crazy idea: What if you'd create a hooded version also?

I am not very knowledgeable about modelling, but what if you make a "detached hood", just like the robe is? That would be awesome!

Just a thought...

Again: May the Force be with you... :cool:
 NeoMarz1
10-28-2002, 3:03 PM
#40
Originally posted by t3rr0r
the tunic looks peach coloured... it's really off-white. http://www.theforce.net/multimedia/archive/Images/Episode_1/Characters/Obi-Wan_Kenobi/swig104.jpg)

You have quite a clean photo, a lot of my photo sources show a dirty tunic. I am going to re work the colors to find a good medium between the 2. Mars out!
 Jolts
10-28-2002, 3:22 PM
#41
http://www.kevinevans.com/pages/game_art_frame.htm)

has a good qui gon reference that can be used for all jedi, its old school but still have the nice fades and dirtyness.

http://geocities.com/joltsone/osb1.txt)

http://geocities.com/joltsone/osb3.txt)

http://geocities.com/joltsone/osb2.txt)

all ingame lower res textures, but might give you some ideas.
 fat_101
10-29-2002, 9:23 AM
#42
woah jolts what games that from (if its from a game that is)


FATTEH
 Arco
10-29-2002, 11:41 AM
#43
looks like the obi wan game for xbox... and it also looks rather odd. Not the best texture work ever... but the hues etc are indeed spot on... probly cos they had access to the props the gits. not to worry tho guys my skin will be just as good if not better... i gurantee it!

Arco:deathii:
 fat_101
10-29-2002, 5:27 PM
#44
eeewwwww u said x-box :barf:

arco i already new urs would be better they always are :D

FATTEH
 Darkchyld
10-29-2002, 11:44 PM
#45
VERY cool. Is there any way possible you can release this as a SP skin mod as well? I would absolutely love to tool around as Obi in SP.
 Deetox187
10-30-2002, 3:23 AM
#46
Just finished up the sounds for Obi-Wan, sorry it took so long i've been a little busy.

Originally i was going to include a bunch of taunts and stuff from Ep2 but i decided not to use very many cause i wanted it to sound at least somewhat Ep1'ish. So since i had all these sounds left over i also made an Ep2 Obi-Wan soundpack just for the hell of it, i don't know if Toonces is going to work on Tex's Ep2 Obi model or not but whoever is might like to use the sounds when the time comes.

hope you guys like. :)

http://www.geocities.com/deetox1900/Obi-Wan_Ep1.zip)

http://www.geocities.com/deetox1900/Obi-Wan_Ep2.zip)

(right click save target as)

btw the model looks GREAT with the Marz skin, can't wait to see Arco's work.
 NeoMarz1
10-30-2002, 2:28 PM
#47
Hey Deetox, Yeah we want sounds for this model, I just e-mailed Toonces. If your interested in doing the taunts set up, e-mail Toonces or post here. I dont know if we have anyone lined up, at any rate we would love to look over anything that you may have. Mars out!
 NeoMarz1
10-30-2002, 2:33 PM
#48
Originally posted by Deetox187
Just finished up the sounds for Obi-Wan, sorry it took so long i've been a little busy.

Originally i was going to include a bunch of taunts and stuff from Ep2 but i decided not to use very many cause i wanted it to sound at least somewhat Ep1'ish. So since i had all these sounds left over i also made an Ep2 Obi-Wan soundpack just for the hell of it, i don't know if Toonces is going to work on Tex's Ep2 Obi model or not but whoever is might like to use the sounds when the time comes.

hope you guys like. :)

http://www.geocities.com/deetox1900/Obi-Wan_Ep1.zip)

http://www.geocities.com/deetox1900/Obi-Wan_Ep2.zip)

(right click save target as)

btw the model looks GREAT with the Marz skin, can't wait to see Arco's work.
forgive me, but Toonces hasn't let me in on who is doing the taunts for the Obi-model. If your lined up for this, please let me know. Are you actually going to set up the pk3, when were in the finishing stages? Please post back, Mars out!
 Arco
10-30-2002, 3:57 PM
#49
well I think any sounds would be helpful. Anyway My skin is getting there and the tweaks toonces and me are doing are really halping the model pop.

I should have some screens of the body (which will be an edited mace windu texture) later on and new shots of teh face for crit also.

Arco:deathii:
 NeoMarz1
10-30-2002, 7:27 PM
#50
Originally posted by Arco
well I think any sounds would be helpful. Anyway My skin is getting there and the tweaks toonces and me are doing are really halping the model pop.

I should have some screens of the body (which will be an edited mace windu texture) later on and new shots of teh face for crit also.

Arco:deathii:

Hey Arco, are you aware if Toonces is working out clipping problems with the robe?
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