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Ebon Hawk versus Another Ship

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 Shrub91
10-19-2005, 8:00 PM
#51
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Yes, that would rock.
 Shrub91
10-19-2005, 8:21 PM
#52
:eyeraise: Why yes I have!


Far more compitient that Sepratist Battle Droid fodder!

I think it is you who needs to go back and view the classic Battlestar Galactica series... heck the Cylons were brighter than some of the humans... and in the new BS Galactica they are definately smarter than Battle Droids. ;)
BSG '78 Cylons are helluva lot smarter than Battledroids, On another note though.... The new BSG '04-'05 Cylons are more manipulative and sinister, rather than just seemingly limitless supply of machines of doom.

Whereas SW droids are simple robots controlled by remote (with exceptions of C3P0, HK-47, T3 and Artoo who all seem to be sentient)
 Shrub91
10-19-2005, 8:28 PM
#53
But if it comes down to it... BSG '78 and SW are equals.

L1 Series Cylon Droids = C3P0, HK-47, T3 and Artoo.

Cylon Centurion Sergeant (ones with the gold colored armor) = Battledroid Commander.

Cylon Centurion (silver) = Regular "Roger Roger" Battledroid.

Their weapons are equal too, but They both would surely kick the snot out of those Redshirts.
 jedi3112
10-23-2005, 8:11 AM
#54
Terminator droids are probably better, but I doubt they're much better as we've never really seen them in a big battle (unless they're in Terminator 3, I've never seen that one).

Anyway I think By your command beats roger roger anyday of the week. Perhaps Destroyer Droids might beat them, but that is purely firepower.

I think the Hawk should stay, I don't like the idea of sneaking from planet to planet on a big ship. I also don't want to be the one landing the damn thing on a small landing platform.
 Samurai DD
10-29-2005, 8:35 PM
#55
Voted "Ok if we get another ship, but prefer the Hawk." The Hawk rocks, but we have had it for 2 games. A new ship would also be cool.
 vader815
11-01-2005, 4:57 PM
#56
Blast the stupid Hawk out of known space!!! We need somthing new other than characters. The new ship should be bigger, stronger, and faster. It sshould be at least 2 stories high and have its own sub., swoop bike, and landspeeder. It should also have a mini-practice arena for dueling and YOU can fly it.
 RobQel-Droma
11-01-2005, 5:39 PM
#57
^^^
Another Hawk and T3 hater. How about we get something different for HK. He should be new, shouldn't he? I like HK, but if you are saying that we need something new for the Hawk, and T3 is outdated, then why keep HK?
 †Saint_Killa†
11-01-2005, 10:51 PM
#58
Without the hawk, where's the Star Wars essence in that?

Without T3 and HK, where's the Star Wars smell of fart in that?

I say keep em. They wouldn't call it Star Wars for nothing.

But.... For DS character. Make it a capital ship and rule the galaxy. But as RedHawke typed... IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY. But one thing.... I played KOTOR 2 again and in darth nihilus' ravager i saw npc's called Nihilus Slave.
Maybe you can mind contol your crewmen if you become more powerful. Well... just my two 2 centavo's to ya' bre'. :)

and 2 the moderators(again): just tell me if my avatar is bad i would gladly change it :)
 DarkExcalibur42
11-04-2005, 12:56 PM
#59
That would be very cool if you could upgrade your ship! that would add alot to the game!

If piloting the Hawk were a bigger part of the game, maybe some side-quests involving the ship... ooo that would be fun.

Then be able to buy new equipment for you ship... install better shields or armor, install upgrades on the weapons and engines... :D

As far as the Ebon Hawk vs a new ship... NO WAY I want a new ship!!! The Hawk is a character in and of itself. You can't just kill it off. That ship is my favorite vessel from the ENTIRE Star Wars Universe!!! Slave 1, Millenium Falcom, Dash Rendar's ship, etc. Hawk beats them all in my opinion.
 Anathema78
11-08-2005, 7:12 PM
#60
It depends on who the PC is, for me. If you're gonna be Revan or the Exile (which seems unlikely) then I guess it would be ok.
But if you're a new character it would be a bit silly that you just happen to get control of the Ebon Hawk. Even in TSL it was stretching the coincidence threshold a bit.
It would be getting a bit like pass the parcel.
*PC gets the Ebon Hawk*
"Damn, guess this means I'm gonna have to save the galaxy" *sigh*.
 RobQel-Droma
11-08-2005, 8:04 PM
#61
Well, they could lose it again. Maybe not that original, but it would work, and it would be ok. It could be crashed somewher perhaps in the Uknown Regions, you know- you don't have to get it immediately. Or it could just be found already, and you could find T3 or somebody in it. I don't know, but it doesn't really pose that much problem. It just needs to be there, especially at the end, even more especially if this is going to be the finisher of the series.
 Anathema78
11-08-2005, 8:11 PM
#62
It deserves a cameo appearance, ofcourse. Perhaps late in the game it could be introduced with a cut scene of it landing on a planet or docking with a station, complete with dramatic music and everyone goes 'ahhhh, the Hawk!'.
Guess we could have one last mooch around inside it for old times sake, and use it to go to the final destination for the big boss fight.
 H2O_dk
11-10-2005, 7:09 AM
#63
I voted "Stick with the Hawk", but if they have the time I'm ok with a new ship. That's after they have made the game work, incl. all the quests etc.
 Cygnus Q'ol
11-10-2005, 10:40 AM
#64
Yes, the Hawk was a great ship for K1. It was my baby for so long.
(I actually had dreams about it)

I was pleasantly surprised when she was back for K2.
But, the focus of the ship was slightly diminished. Still, it was OK.
Midway through the game though, my mind wandered and I imagined layouts of other ships. "Cargo hold here... Cockpit there..."

OK, if we're in the Hawk in K3 then, so be it.
But, personally I'd like a little novelty and imagination.

It's time for a new ship.
 Joe©
11-10-2005, 11:25 AM
#65
about the hawk....
Gotta keep it, I love that ship.
but it does not matter to much I guess since I spend very little time on it ::)
 RobQel-Droma
11-10-2005, 12:31 PM
#66
But, personally I'd like a little novelty and imagination.

It's time for a new ship

But if this is going to be the last Revan & Exile KotOR game, then why do we need a new ship? They should stick with it. We don't really need new ideas for a ship, it needs to be in there. Maybe to make you guys all happy you can ditch the Hawk if you want, but it needs to be there, especially if this is going to be the close of the series. Having new ideas is good and all, but to change a major part of the game that has been in K1 and K2? I just don't think it is a good idea.

However, if they do make more KotORish games after this one, which I am praying they will (If they do it right, these games could pwn every other game :D), we should get a new ship. New characters, no Revan Exile stuff so that it can start fresh. A new ship wouldn't be bad, it might be nice to have a bit different type of ship, but not for this KotOR series.
 Amor
11-11-2005, 7:19 AM
#67
Ebon Hawk forevah :)
 UrchSr
11-12-2005, 11:30 PM
#68
Keep it!! Why not? I feel that the Hawk is like an other npc in your party. It has that homey familiarity(sp). I'd like to see other ships, but the Hawk has made a name for it's self. I'd be just as disapinted to not see it in the game as if Hk and T3 were gone, too.
 ilwugoalie
11-16-2005, 7:11 PM
#69
I say keep the Hawk, but a different ship mght be cool for lets say a side mission.... something to the effects of when you had the Hawk Stolen in TSL... but this time you actually use another ship in your search for the hawk...

Not saying that specifically (dont want anymore recycled plotts in the games) just an idea

:x-wing: :tie: :tied: :vsd:
:x-wing:
 OptimalOptimus
11-16-2005, 10:50 PM
#70
I love the internal space of the Hawk.. But i sumtimes get lost. I know that sounds stupid. but i do. they should keep the Out side shape BUt upgrade the ship's paint job. cause it's Ugly. I know it's a Cargo ship ,But in the Game we use it As "Your" personal ship. The Ship is too Boxy looking on the front .. it looks like its' flying backwards .. I'm just used to seeing Star Trek ships. Star Trek Ships have Design in mind when built. Because the Star Trek is more peacefull the Star Wars. Where they have be in Countless wars... will millions of races..Over time . resources would be har dto come buy.. & ships would be OVEr worked & under repaired. SO i Guess it makes sence that the Hawk looks the way she does. Include the fact she's a Cargo ship. NOt a personal ship. The Bridge & two boxy parts one on the Left & right of the ship need to be smoothed down .. SO to give a more areodynamic look. I would like to see rooms for the Crew. not bunks & an open space. & i would like to see the engine room doing Sumthing... i'm used to the warm glow & hum of a Warp Drive :O) i'm spoiled.

remember that Big table in the center of the Hawk.. looked like it was used for holo grams.. WEll Put the Space map there .. Always showing so the ship looks more busy. Or a 3d hologram of the Ebon Hawk & damage status or sumthing.

Whats the room behind the Bridge for ???? Why not put someone in there looking busy .. That's just wasted space.

my paint job for the Hawk would be, Flat White for the hull. Silver on the guns & Trim , Tinted mirror finish on the windows. so you can't look inside the ship.

OH & a Low rider landing gear system. SO when the ship lands. it can lower all the way to the Ground. SO the Ship could be a Moble HOme.
 Engma48
11-19-2005, 3:42 PM
#71
as i said in a different thread about not having revan or the exile....if neither of these are pc's then i would have to say have a different ship, because the chances of a third person recieving the same ship and this story being about them are really far fetched
 OptimalOptimus
11-20-2005, 5:42 PM
#72
I have Made the Ebon Hawk 2.. with upgrades. But i can't post it here. Can How do i post it ?
 Darth Moeller
11-20-2005, 5:48 PM
#73
Keep the Hawk.
 OptimalOptimus
11-20-2005, 6:22 PM
#74
Here's my Ebon Hawk 2 :O)


Prime EDIT: Link removed. You should know better. This is your warning.
 JediMaster12
11-21-2005, 6:04 PM
#75
The Hawk sucks.

Blasphemer!!
The Ebon Hawk is like the Milennium Falcon. IT'S THE BOMB!!
That ship is a tough one and I hope to have it again, maybe with some more options to do stuff on it. :lightning
 Hallucination
11-21-2005, 7:55 PM
#76
Here's my Ebon Hawk 2 :O)


Link removed due to content
Why did you post a gay porn site? And the page its on is members...thankfully...
 OptimalOptimus
11-21-2005, 11:02 PM
#77
Uhm, well i am Gay. & i used my gallery there to show my Ebon Hawk 2 Ship.. Was you able to see the ship ?
 Hallucination
11-21-2005, 11:07 PM
#78
No, but I did see a lot of porn links....
Since I couldn't see that gallery I guess that you posted porn as a sick joke. Remember you could use freewebs or imageshack and they'll let other people see it.
 OptimalOptimus
11-22-2005, 12:02 AM
#79
shoot , that sux. Oh well
 pokejedi123
11-22-2005, 8:24 AM
#80
i think it should stay but the game should let you do some changes

like a new color,som blin bling :king1:

and let it have that everybody gets their own rooms!
 JediMaster12
11-22-2005, 2:47 PM
#81
Good suggestion and while they're at let's see if the Hawk can have hydraulic lifts and bounce around with the bling bling.
 Nuitari_28
12-04-2005, 10:41 AM
#82
New ship, with spinning hydrothruster rims, purple furry seats, tinted windows, cool black/purple paint job, Neon lights, Hydrolics (for a bumpy ride). Basically pimp my wheelchair but pimp my starship.
 RobQel-Droma
12-04-2005, 10:52 AM
#83
Hydrolics? You would be in space. And purple? I'm sorry, I just can't imagine that for a galaxy saving/conquering person. :D

Besides, what kind of a starship would that be? Your person isn't a galaxy famous celebrity; half of the players wouldn't be female, either (I couldn't imagine a male flying this).

No offense, of course. But somehow I don't see that happening... :)
 ilwugoalie
12-04-2005, 11:12 AM
#84
Lets just stick with the Ebon Hawk. taking out the Hawk would be like replacing the Milenium falcon after ESB and bringing in a new ship for ROTJ
 JediMaster12
12-05-2005, 11:09 AM
#85
Ditto. Oh and Rob, I was being sarcastic. To change the Ebon Hawk like that is like desecrating a church.
 RobQel-Droma
12-05-2005, 10:18 PM
#86
Actually I was talking to Nuitari or whatever the name is, but thanks for letting me know too JediMaster12. Yeah, mega dittos on all that you have said. Ilwugoalie's right, I've said it before; getting rid of the Ebon Hawk would be like getting rid of the Millenium Falcon in RotJ, with no appearence of it. You could say the same for T3 and HK, actually; What would RotJ be if 3PO and R2 dissappeared or got killed in the beginning?
 JediMaster12
12-06-2005, 1:38 PM
#87
Got a point there. I saw the droids as comic relief. Without them, another boring flick in spite of all the action.
 Darth Windu
12-07-2005, 8:43 PM
#88
I say definately stick with the [IHawk[/I]. What I would like to see though are ship improvements that you can buy at some point.

If things work like in KotOR with the random chance of being intercepted by Sith fighters, you could have upgrades for Armour, Guns, Engines etc. Maybe as a gift for you helping out, someone could give you some fluffy dice for the dash as well?
 CaptainWhyNot
12-08-2005, 12:12 AM
#89
I voted for the "Ok if we get another ship, but prefer the Hawk" option.

But, I definitely think the Hawk should be used at least some in the next game. It would make sense to me, if you weren't playing Revan or The Exile, that you start out in some other ship, but later join up with the Exile and/or Revan who are/is using the Ebon Hawk.
 JediMaster12
12-10-2005, 10:53 AM
#90
I say definately stick with the [IHawk[/I]. What I would like to see though are ship improvements that you can buy at some point.

If things work like in KotOR with the random chance of being intercepted by Sith fighters, you could have upgrades for Armour, Guns, Engines etc. Maybe as a gift for you helping out, someone could give you some fluffy dice for the dash as well?

That could be an option but what of the turrets? THe supposed original owner of the Hawk said that it was sluggish when it came to fast moving fighters. Improvements on the hyperdrive could help, give it a bit more power. As for the fluffy dice, put those in a pimped out ride on four wheels.
 Jae Onasi
12-10-2005, 11:49 AM
#91
I could live with a new ship, too, but prefer the Hawk. The new ship would have to have a higher Cool Factor (tm) than the Hawk, though. Hey, if you're going to get a new ship, it may as well look and run better....
I'm with DarkExcalibur42--If keeping the Hawk, I think it'd be fun to go on a (side) quest for some new parts ("You need to go find a Raniskran for the Hyperdrive before you can go to the Unknown Regions--the only place I know to find a Raniskran is on Corellia. Erlin Solo smuggles one out every now and then. Watch out for the Hutts...."). Then have those parts make a real improvement on the ship's performance (outrunning fighters? Mow through them faster? Making it through the asteroid field easier? that kind of stuff).
Or you could just get some new curtains to match those fluffy dice in the dash.... :noel:
 Nuitari_28
12-11-2005, 3:49 AM
#92
Wassamatter with a purple space ship, every badass dude has a purple spaceship if Mr T was in Starwars hed have a purple spaceship with gold rims and what do you mean no hydrolics. Yea i like the thought of fluffy dice though pink ones with a ink tree airfreshner very cool.
 JediMaster12
12-12-2005, 11:55 AM
#93
Wassamatter with a purple space ship, every badass dude has a purple spaceship if Mr T was in Starwars hed have a purple spaceship with gold rims and what do you mean no hydrolics. Yea i like the thought of fluffy dice though pink ones with a ink tree airfreshner very cool.

Because we like the Hawk the way it is. Your ship is actually a space pimp's dream ship.
 Nuitari_28
12-12-2005, 12:54 PM
#94
it is the hawk a new and improved hawk. Like action man everyone likes action man but every time he needs something new like a torpedo gun or a space buggy. So the hawk needs something new about it...
 RobQel-Droma
12-12-2005, 1:31 PM
#95
^It does not need that as something new about it.

Come on, Nuitari, I'm sorry, but that idea... Just think about the phrase "shaming the KotOR series". You are a Jedi Knight/Sith Knight trying to save/conquer the galaxy; You aren't a galactic celebrity. :xp:

What you are talking about would make the Hawk some frilly little toy ship- not quite what the poor Hawk should be turned into, it would ruin KotOR. Even if you do think it looks cool.
 JediMaster12
12-12-2005, 5:28 PM
#96
Come on, Nuitari, I'm sorry, but that idea... Just think about the phrase "shaming the KotOR series". You are a Jedi Knight/Sith Knight trying to save/conquer the galaxy; You aren't a galactic celebrity. :xp:

That's true. You don't see a copy of Who's Who's in the Republic with a picture of a Jedi.


What you are talking about would make the Hawk some frilly little toy ship- not quite what the poor Hawk should be turned into, it would ruin KotOR. Even if you do think it looks cool.

Mega dittos
 Char Ell
12-12-2005, 6:39 PM
#97
I like the Ebon Hawk and think it's a cool ship. I'm not opposed to seeing it again in a future KotOR game. However I would like a better explanation of how the EH made it through the crash on Malachor V and was able to escape M5's destruction. I just don't buy the EH crash landing on the planet and then being able to fly off before M5 explodes. If the devs can't come up with something (and I think that would be tough to do) then it's time to come up with a new ship.
 harwai
12-15-2005, 1:09 PM
#98
has anyone ever played skies of arcadia?

well having a ship upgrade system like that would be good

and it would be even better to get hold of your own space port!

Or maybe the ability to choose your ship?
like some have different attributes like speed and bulk

PS. is KoToR official yet?
if it is, can i have a link?
 Kain
12-15-2005, 3:22 PM
#99
The Hawk sucks.
 Bob Lion54
12-15-2005, 3:37 PM
#100
has anyone ever played skies of arcadia?

well having a ship upgrade system like that would be good

and it would be even better to get hold of your own space port!

Or maybe the ability to choose your ship?
like some have different attributes like speed and bulk
The Hawks in only in the game to get you where you need to go. The Turrent game is just there to add a bit of fun to the ship. The turrent mini-game is enough. I don't want to turn K3 into a flight sim anymore than I would want to turn it into a first person shooter or a hack 'n slash. (as some have sujested.)

PS. is KoToR official yet?
if it is, can i have a link?
No, its not official yet, but the prevailing assumption is that it will be made. When? No one knows for sure. (I think its probable unofficial, "behind the scenes" talks are going on between LA and Obsidian, or another developer, but nothing has been announced yet.)

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