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Vagabond

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Posted in: Yet another religious discussion (well sorta)
  Vagabond
06-30-2000, 12:06 AM
#20
You know, even though I don't agree with you, Orbvs_Terrarvm, I do find your polite respect very refreshing. Some people, both of faith and not, are very millitant about it, which is not helpful for meaningful discussion. And you're right. Most of u...  [Read More]
Posted in: Yet another religious discussion (well sorta)
  Vagabond
06-29-2000, 8:24 PM
#17
Yes, we'll just have to respectfully disagree, which is cool. I disagree with most of the guys out here anyway http://www.jediknight.net/mboard/wink.gif Anyway, I wanted to comment on this: ...Unaltered by man and everything in it has... Well, a...  [Read More]
Posted in: Yet another religious discussion (well sorta)
  Vagabond
06-29-2000, 5:50 PM
#15
Well first off, in my opinion, the old testament has absolutely zip to do with Christianity. Second of all, most of the stuff in the old testament never happened, in my opinion. So, in my opinion, it's hard for me to see how you can get hung up on...  [Read More]
Posted in: Yet another religious discussion (well sorta)
  Vagabond
06-29-2000, 12:59 PM
#10
Conor, ...As for Dogma, I know all I need to know about it, and I have no wish to see it. Or Stigmata. I know how irrelevant both of them are... How can you know that which you have not seen? Sounds like you're being close-minded to me. Either th...  [Read More]
Posted in: Yet another religious discussion (well sorta)
  Vagabond
06-29-2000, 1:33 AM
#7
Agreed, Jedi Calypso. Those who would pass judgement as to what is the correct way to love their God are missing the point. It's not the mechanics of the love, but the love itself. (Jeez, listening to me, one might suspect I'm a religious person;...  [Read More]
Posted in: Are you here wizzywig?
  Vagabond
06-28-2000, 10:19 PM
#15
wiz, ya I bet so too. I'm not going to pay them $20 for something they broadcasted for free on television. ------------------ VagabondNomad on the Zone... All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players......  [Read More]
Posted in: Atheist Abortion Debate:
  Vagabond
07-07-2000, 3:07 AM
#68
Conor, your theatrics do your cause a grave disservice. An abortion is an operation, so in a technical sense there is a wound to the mother, but rarely does any long-term physical damage result. Further, I'm not disputing the fact that the fetus is...  [Read More]
Posted in: Atheist Abortion Debate:
  Vagabond
07-06-2000, 6:51 PM
#66
The doctor's opinion, that you referenced, is no more valid than mine. I'm not going to enter a discussion on my views of the validity of making stands for religious reasons. Suffice it to say that I am agnostic and place little value on beliefs fou...  [Read More]
Posted in: Atheist Abortion Debate:
  Vagabond
07-05-2000, 8:35 PM
#63
Kurgan, On your point #2, I disagree. The majority group that opposes abortion are conservative, christian, males. This is a fact. Just poll the people opposed to choice in this very thread. Granted, it's not scientific, but it shows my point. And...  [Read More]
Posted in: Atheist Abortion Debate:
  Vagabond
07-05-2000, 5:19 PM
#61
Yes, it's all in the presentation of the statement, and your rather dramatic misrepresentation of the issue is a perfect case-in-point. ------------------ VagabondNomad on the Zone... All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely playe...  [Read More]
Posted in: Atheist Abortion Debate:
  Vagabond
07-05-2000, 11:16 AM
#59
Off-Topic: Normally I'm pro-death penalty. However, lately too many innocent people have ended up on death row, hence I'm for a moratorium per the state of Illinois. Especially Texas. Something is seriously messed up with their judicial system. When...  [Read More]
Posted in: Atheist Abortion Debate:
  Vagabond
07-04-2000, 1:45 PM
#57
13th, I wasn't accusing you. Sometimes it seems like the debate starts heading that way, so I wanted to caution both you and I before either of us went there, unintentionally or otherwise http://www.jediknight.net/mboard/wink.gif -----------------...  [Read More]
Posted in: Atheist Abortion Debate:
  Vagabond
07-04-2000, 2:26 AM
#55
Kurgan, ...Human lives I place above freedom. If we can't live, we can't be free. Once we are allowed to live, then we can enjoy freedom... Can you see where herein lies the paradox? If the unwanted child is forced upon the unwilling mother, then...  [Read More]
Posted in: Atheist Abortion Debate:
  Vagabond
07-03-2000, 9:37 PM
#53
One more thing, 13th. Let me caution you to not take a holier-than-thou stance. Once you place yourself above others, you take on a self-righteous frame of mind, which blinds you to your own Humanity. We are all imperfect and no one should expect us...  [Read More]
Posted in: Atheist Abortion Debate:
  Vagabond
07-03-2000, 9:30 PM
#52
Well 13th, we are just going to have to disagree. It all comes down to having control over your own body. I'm very socially liberal, so I'm all for: * Self-Assisted Suicide * Right to Choose Abortion * Right to be Homosexual without fear of discrimi...  [Read More]
Posted in: Atheist Abortion Debate:
  Vagabond
07-03-2000, 1:22 PM
#48
13th, ...There a thousands of people who can not have children who would have been more than willing to adopt that child... This is not justification to force a woman to have an unwanted pregnancy. Hell, I love a good laugh. That doesn't give me...  [Read More]
Posted in: Atheist Abortion Debate:
  Vagabond
07-03-2000, 1:52 AM
#46
13th, ...When someone is careless enough to engage in a sexual activity with someone else, there should be a certain level of compitence and responsibility. If responsible behavior is not present, and the two fool around carelessly, Then they shoul...  [Read More]
Posted in: Atheist Abortion Debate:
  Vagabond
06-30-2000, 9:21 PM
#44
quite-gone gin, Welcome. And I'd urge you to read this entire thread, if you get the chance. Much of what you've stated has already been discussed, so I won't rehash it here. I will say that I strongly disagree with your opinion that the main reaso...  [Read More]
Posted in: Atheist Abortion Debate:
  Vagabond
06-29-2000, 9:42 PM
#41
...Somewhere along the line weren't you the one who said the only people who support abortion were "rich, white, Republican Christian men?"... Actually, I said soemthing more along the line that the majority of those who are anti-choice a...  [Read More]
Posted in: Atheist Abortion Debate:
  Vagabond
06-29-2000, 9:20 PM
#40
I never said a fetus wasn't alive. True, it has DNA, so technically it is Human. My hair and fingernails have Human DNA as well - none of you seem to get up in arms when you get a hair cut. That's not even the point. The mother's right to terminate...  [Read More]
Posted in: Atheist Abortion Debate:
  Vagabond
06-29-2000, 7:54 PM
#36
A woman's right to control her bodily functions is paramount. If she wants to have a baby, that is her choice. If she doesn't want to have a baby, that is also her choice. Ike, if I went up to you and held a gun to your head and said, "Damn it,...  [Read More]
Posted in: Atheist Abortion Debate:
  Vagabond
06-29-2000, 6:33 PM
#34
I love it how people think they can take away my rights because they think they know best. It absolutely disgusts me. ------------------ VagabondNomad on the Zone... All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players......  [Read More]
Posted in: Atheist Abortion Debate:
  Vagabond
06-29-2000, 6:00 PM
#32
No, the decision was made by the USA's founding fathers by their wording of the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights, as the aforementioned were interpreted by the U.S. Surpreme Court. Sure, religious people are all behind the USA when it comes...  [Read More]
Posted in: Atheist Abortion Debate:
  Vagabond
06-29-2000, 12:54 PM
#30
No one's asking you to support abortion, but I expect you to obey that laws and rights in our country. If you don't like them, then either try to convince a majority of people to agree with your view, or move to a country more to your liking. ------...  [Read More]
Posted in: Atheist Abortion Debate:
  Vagabond
06-28-2000, 11:45 PM
#28
Kurgan, ...I would argue that the fetus/unborn baby/zygote/whatever you want to call it/human being has no choice in the matter... I believe in a hierarchy of rights: 1. The rights of the living outweigh the rights of the unborn and the dead. 2...  [Read More]
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