this is my second model from the original jedi knight, the first being Maw.
and like Maw, Jerec is a modified kyle.
the mesh is done, at least in my opinion, but i want to hear from others first before i begin uvwmapping him.
so here he is:
www.geocities.com/madpostal2002/jerec2.txt)
www.geocities.com/madpostal2002/jerec4.txt)
and these are what i used for references, just incase no one knows what he looks like:
www.geocities.com/madpostal2002/jerec1.txt)
www.geocities.com/madpostal2002/jerec3.txt)
www.geocities.com/madpostal2002/jerec5.txt)
(files are .txt so you wont have to copy/paste into address bar, just click)
any comments welcome.
Very nice. I played Jk1 a lot. About 2 years. So I know what I am talking about.
It is looking great. I love using the Maw model, and I will totally enjoy using this model. I hope you start making all the JK:DF2 Characters. Awesome Job!
:D
I meant Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II. I forgot about the smiley so thats why it has a smiley in the middle of that.
Very nice. I wouldn't be afraid to make him a little more imposing(broader shoulders, stronger build). I'm guessing the writers and artists for jedi knight intended for Jerec to look like the concept art, but had to take what they got when it came to finding an actor. Otherwise it looks fine, and the face is pretty much dead on.
http://www.awardwinningdesign.net/uploads/Image2.jpg)
That was my Jerec I was doing, I stop though to do the MGS2 models. I could not find all the textures. I only found the face, head and blindfold. Damn... I think there on CD.
Looking good, really good.
Damn you....now I have another model I have to wait for :D
Wow awesome work!
Can't wait to see this one, Jerec was a much better enemy than Desann ever was. Plus, it will be great to see him in the great detail both you and the JK2 engine can provide.
I'm one of the people working on the JK Remake, and I'm sure we'd all love it if we were able to use your models in our remake. You will be given full credit and all.
My prayers have been answered that is all.
Nice job Madjai. Maybe you can make the shoulderpads a little more defined though.
it looks good. here's another version (imo, the best) of jerec.
http://clan-cd.tripod.com/jk2/jerec.txt)
It's perfectly fine to make jerec look a bit different to the actor. Cos the actor is a bit on the chubby side.
Hey,
you going to the left hand floating saber bug on Maw for JediMod?
yea ive already fixed that bug, but im going to make a legged Maw and his saber before i release it.
the face is looking good, and yea i'd add a little more to the shoulders.
Originally posted by Madjai
yea ive already fixed that bug, but im going to make a legged Maw and his saber before i release it.
can you give his tubes a shader, too? :D
Originally posted by t3rr0r
can you give his tubes a shader, too? :D
thats not my department :P
and if i dont hear from inbredyokel im gonna need someone to skin him for me.
Why do so many people have trouble with shaders? They are SO easy.
dont just say its easy, either say how or give links that explain how easy it is.
Madjai,
Your model is looking very nice. I have made a Jerec skin and I have no idea if it will help or if you even care but it may help to look at my skin to see how I interpreted him to be. Here's the link:
http://www.massassi.net/levels/files/2361.shtml)
Also, I'd be glad to skin this baby for you once you're done with the model.
Hope I've helped somewhat.
Emon, if you can do the shaders on the updated Maw skin, you are MORE than welcome to, and I'd gladly give you credit. Modifying an existing shader is one thing(one thing I can do), but making an entirely new one and getting it to work in a convincing way is completely another.
Madjai contacted me, so it looks like I'll be skinning Jerec (the many faces of Corran Horn will have to be put on hold). This should be much easier than Maw, whose lumpy head and enormous exposed muscles made for a texturing nightmare.
Keep the reference pics coming!
You open up ShaderEd, add a texture, select a blend mode (usually GL_ONE/GL_ONE for solid textures), check any kind of features you want, etc.
Consult the Q3 shader manual. I had a bookmark, but I just reformatted, use google.
can someone provide me with the jerec sounds from JK1?
Originally posted by Madjai
can someone provide me with the jerec sounds from JK1?
who was nice enough to supply them for you for maw? try and contact him again ...
jerec's looking great, madjai! keep up the great work! :D
ok i emailed him, thanks for the idea.
im currently working on weighting Jerec, which will be easier than Maw was because his body fits the skeleton much better, so this should take a couple of days, although i havent done legs before so maybe longer.
then the only thing left after that will be a little testing, the skin and sounds.
things move much faster after youve gotten over the first model.
Got the UV maps from Madjai last night, and I've got the basic facial features in. The mouth tatoos are only a stand-in for now, and the color looks washed out because I'm skinning in greyscale and have placed a layer of color over everything for reference.
http://www.geocities.com/inbredyokel2000/jerec1.txt)
I haven't heard this brought up yet, so anyone have ideas for taunts? I don't know if Madjai has anything planned, but it seems there are 12 slots open at the moment.
looks good so far, although the tatoos at the mouth could stand to be longer.
Yea, from what i remember the tattoos near the mouth came nearly down to his chin, so if you add a little more length you will have it, but overall, the face looks awesome! keep up the good work... JK1 is makign a comeback!!! YES!!!(does the Happy :bdroid2: dance..)
You could use the thing from the beginning when he is talking to Rahn the Jedi and he says "I have no further use for you" or something like that...
Like I said, they're stand-ins:) The actual tatoos are much thinner and longer, and point almost straight down.
Btw, I need a little help on one part of the skin. Was Jerec blind or did he have no eyes at all? I remember reading or hearing somewhere that he just had empty sockets. In the Jedi Knight cutscenes you can clearly see the actor's eyes through the visor thing, but I'm guessing that's because of a low cutscene budget so it doesn't count(couldn't afford black contacts).
he had empty eye sockets, but used the force to "See", and he used the force to penetrate people's minds to read them
Here are a bunch of Jerec reference pics, the model looks great, hope these help you with some final touches.
Jerec.jpg – 192 KB
http://www.reandev.com/Jerec.jpg)
Originally posted by Andy867
You could use the thing from the beginning when he is talking to Rahn the Jedi and he says "I have no further use for you" or something like that...
I'm not too sure that would be a good taunt cause he whispers it in Rahns ear, doesn't sound menacing enough. However right after he says that and raises his saber to cut Rahn down he lets out an evil laugh that i think would be perfect as a taunt.
Madjai if you want i can get some sounds for you, i have JK installed and i know which gobs the sounds are located in, let me know. :)
EDIT: well i was bored so i grabbed some Jerec sounds whether you wanted me to or not hehe, i got that evil laugh and a couple other good taunts too. I know theres more sounds from the cutscenes somewhere but i haven't found them yet, this is a good start though. :)
copy/paste the links into a new window.
http://www.geocities.com/deetox1900/i00je01z.mp3)
http://www.geocities.com/deetox1900/i00je02z.mp3)
http://www.geocities.com/deetox1900/i00je03z.mp3)
http://www.geocities.com/deetox1900/i00je04z.mp3)
http://www.geocities.com/deetox1900/i00je05z.mp3)
good as a taunt ...
www.geocities.com/deetox1900/i00je01z.mp3)
another good taunt ...
www.geocities.com/deetox1900/i00je02z.mp3)
awesome for a pain sound ...
www.geocities.com/deetox1900/i00je03z.mp3)
kinda long, but great for a death sound ...
www.geocities.com/deetox1900/i00je04z.mp3)
and probably the best taunt of them all ...
www.geocities.com/deetox1900/i00je05z.mp3)
:D GOOD WORK FINDING THESE DEETOX!! :D
Thanx yes they are all very useful sounds, i was thinking that long one could even be chopped up into some decent pain sounds, just an idea.. Anyways i have looked through all the wav files in the game and thats all there is of Jerec, so i assume the rest of his audio is embedded in the cutscenes. I tried using a sound recorder to grab the audio from one of them but the quality didn't come out too good, probably due to the crappy onboard soundcard i have. :(
Ah cool, the dream-team strikes again. I have no doubts that your Jerec model will be a complete success :D
I love you Madjaj and Inbred :D
Great Indeed! I love JK (perhaps more than JK2 due to the many found memories ;) )
Ive often thought the old JK and MOTS maps would be amazing for JK2, I think Ill go to the mapping section and do some enquiring :p
Nicely done
don't supose you could send me the mesh madjai? my mail is arco2002@hotmail.com. Could i get it in .glm or a 3ds and this is only if you have indeed uvmapped it.
Arco
why do you want the mesh?
Madjai jerec's look good cant wait to see him finished:cool:
Madjai I think arco wants to skin it and he is asking you to send him the model and the skinmaps...
I must say that this is looking awesome. hopefully you guys create all of the dark jedi from JK1. Boc would be sweet next
well i already have a skinner, and id like to keep it at one per model. but if you want to skin any of my future models please say so, ill be making Boc, Pic & Gorc, 8t88, Rahn and possibly Sariss if shes not being done by another person.
Awesome, good to hear you're doing so many Jedi Knight characters, when you get around to those let me know and i'll provide sounds for all of them. :)
Here's update #2
http://www.geocities.com/inbredyokel2000/jerec2.txt)
The face itself is pretty much complete(some nose texture alignment remains), and the head is nearing completion. I've got a good start on the clothing, but I'm not going to show anything yet until I'm at least satisfied with how it looks. Let's just say it will be a hell of a lot more detailed than Maw. Now all I need is some actual time to work on it...
Totally awesome. Keep it up.
Will Jerec have his cape? He always had it in the cutscenes, but not in-game.
It looks fantastic and great to hear that you are doing all the 7 dark jedi and Rahn.
humph!:mad: I wanted to skin it... i can't bemoggle why you turned me down! I was gonna do CTF since the default was already taken. I am so not used to one skinner per pack... madness!
Arco:deathii:
well if you want to do ctf skins talk to inbredyokel, i dont mind if you guys split the work up, just dont want two people working on the default skin.
pretty well done will his blind fold thing be 3d or just pained on?