That bluish tone only appears on the new game menu when choosing the character stats, and the "info" menu in-game. It won't, or shouldn't appear on the models in the game.All vampires have a deathly pallor throughout the game though. It's usually a bluish-grey tone of some sort, although it is influenced by the area lighting.

You can gain humanity points back if you dance in a few clubs for about 5 minutes.While you are in the clubs, don't forget the blood dolls you can drain. Seduction comes in handy for them in the later levels, so you shouldn't have much trouble as a Toreador.

"That guy" is Jack. Also know as "Smilin' Jack." He is quite possibly the greatest NPC of all time. Indeed. He would be pretty hard to top in some sort of all time RPG NPC ranking methinks. Possibly he would have to fight it out with HK-47.

Indeed. He would be pretty hard to top in some sort of all time RPG NPC ranking methinks. Possibly he would have to fight it out with HK-47.

I dunno, Bender used Meatbag first.

Pilot episode in 1999
Fry: Wow, a real live robot! Or is that just some sort of cheesy New Year's costume?
Bender: Bite my shiny metal [posterior]!
Fry: Doesn't look so shiny to me.
Bender: Shinier than yours, meatbag!

Seeing as how Smilin Jack just happens to be voiced by the same actor.... I'd say Jack wins.

VTMB Camarilla Edition (http://camarillaedition.darkbb.com/community-news-media-downloads-f3/what-is-vtmb-camarilla-edition-t29.htm)

Looks like the most extensive remix of the game mechanics ever. I'll definitely be checking this out for my next playthrough.

I have long since been a fan of Bethesda's Open Ended Sandbox games so that is the feel I wanted to bring to Bloodlines.Urgh, Bloodlines: Oblivion Edition. Although, thankfully, I'm not seeing much there that reflects Bethesda's stuff.

I dunno why people feel the need to screw with the base mechanics so much. The only problem with it is the fact it turns into a FPS for the last 3rd of the game. Other than that the rest of the vanilla game is pretty good.

VTMB Camarilla Edition (http://camarillaedition.darkbb.com/community-news-media-downloads-f3/what-is-vtmb-camarilla-edition-t29.htm)

Looks like the most extensive remix of the game mechanics ever. I'll definitely be checking this out for my next playthrough.
I really like some of the changes in the Camarilla edition, but I'd have to figure out how to mod the blood loss/slowed regeneration back out. I like to look around and enjoy the area I"m playing in, not run to the nearest sewer opening every 10 seconds to find a rat to feed on.

Also, I like the music at the Asylum and Last Round! Granted, I can't play Genitorturer music with my kids around, but still. I don't want that messed with. :)

I really like some of the changes in the Camarilla edition, but I'd have to figure out how to mod the blood loss/slowed regeneration back out. I like to look around and enjoy the area I"m playing in, not run to the nearest sewer opening every 10 seconds to find a rat to feed on.


Most of the changes I can agree with, but I can't so much on the front of wanting to play what it says is a "real" vampire. Truthfully, making the game play like that gives the idea that all Vampires in VtM are raging monsters with the beast tugging at a thin wire, that doesn't have much give. I haven't seen any other game that the player character is a Vampire, have to keep feeding regularly, or have a health, blood pool, or rage bar that drains after a number of minutes.

The changes for the pc models I don't mind, nor the changes to the eyes in the game. That, along with the music can be added without the gameplay changes, though the eyes are also changed in the unoffical patches too.

Well i finally made it into the game last night for real, finished the tutorial section wtih some extra tries getting across that one lot with the wrecked cars :) i love the apartmenet and the visuals are just amazing, i really am going to enjoy this game for the detail put into the 3D world is just what I like, ...

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simply amazing.

one question..is there any hot key or control that allows us to see our own face or front? in Oblvion you can hold down the R key and other games have something like that too... just was curious to see how "I" look :)

thanks for all help and tips, i loaded up the latest unofficial patch with the full settings because i really wanted to see all the restored content.

I have all the graphics settings all the way up including the rain, which i really like and my card seems very happy with the game.

I had a buddy in rehab who looked and talked just like that guy in the tutorial, made me nostalgic, he was a Hells Angel, and that guy made it seem just like home. :)

Well i finally made it into the game last night for real, finished the tutorial section wtih some extra tries getting across that one lot with the wrecked cars :) i love the apartmenet and the visuals are just amazing, i really am going to enjoy this game for the detail put into the 3D world is just what I like, ...

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simply amazing.

one question..is there any hot key or control that allows us to see our own face or front? in Oblvion you can hold down the R key and other games have something like that too... just was curious to see how "I" look :)

thanks for all help and tips, i loaded up the latest unofficial patch with the full settings because i really wanted to see all the restored content.

I have all the graphics settings all the way up including the rain, which i really like and my card seems very happy with the game.

I had a buddy in rehab who looked and talked just like that guy in the tutorial, made me nostalgic, he was a Hells Angel, and that guy made it seem just like home. :)

The official patch doesn't let you do that, but the unoffical patches do add hotkeys to change the camera orientation around your player. Pressing 8 on the key pad gives you the front view, 2 sets you back to, well, the player's back, while 4 and 6 gives you the side views. Pressing minus or plus on the keypad lets you get a closer(+) or farther look(-).

wow, thanks, ys i have the unoffical Patch 6.7 so that will be a big help, thanks for that info.

^You're playing one of the top 5 games of the 2000's (IMO), so I know that you're going to enjoy it. Just try to keep from reading any spoilers and you'll have a blast.
I really like some of the changes in the Camarilla edition, but I'd have to figure out how to mod the blood loss/slowed regeneration back out.
I think that it's only 1 blood point every 5 minutes, so while it might get a little hairy in a few places (the warrens come to mind), I don't think that it wouldn't make too much of a difference overall, what with all of those juicy, two-legged bloodbags running around in the game.

The slowed regeneration is a different story entirely. The boss battles will be much harder and the Blood Heal discipline (which you can now spend points on to improve just like any other discipline) will become much more important. The point is to change the way you play the game so that it's fresh and new and challenging, even for those who have played through it several times, and I believe that this mod would go a long way towards doing just that.

I'll be using it during my next playthrough, and I'll be sure to post what I think of it, but first I have to wear out Dragon Age. :)
Also, I like the music at the Asylum and Last Round! Granted, I can't play Genitorturer music with my kids around, but still. I don't want that messed with. :)
People mess around with the music in Bloodlines A LOT, so I think that this could be changed back pretty easily.

It's been awhile since I've played Bloodlines, and I've only beaten the game once. I think I'll play again with this Camarilla Edition patch, and see how it goes.

I'm suprised a developer hasn't made a new vampire game with this current vampire craze going on.

Well, for one thing, I think that World of Darkness the RPG that VtM:B is based on, has been overhauled in recent years and no longer features Vampire the Masquerade.

Second, Troika went under shortly after releasing VtM:B, and I'm not sure if anyone could make a vampire RPS as cool as this one.

I continue to love the ambience and the feeling, the scene on the beach at night reminded me so much of California....and Santa Monica....

and the interiors are beautifully concieved and done...

Moving along into the game a bit, the scenes and interiors are amazing...so much ambience and mood, with alots of detail, and great depth to the story....the characters are very well done too, fully voiced and with lots of dark humour...

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there are even seedy nighclubs you can dance and otherwise play in ....

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and with an interesting twist of the game process, you can restore your humanity by dancing lol.....

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the scenes where you are on a beach by the Santa Monica Pier in a misty dark night are awesomly done...down to beach boys hanging out around a fire....

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and the interiors are realy fun too...

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plus those two sisters at the Assylum are great :)

Looks like you need to change your FOV to 90°. I think the default is 75° (as it seems to be in most games urgh).

Looks like you need to change your FOV to 90°. I think the default is 75° (as it seems to be in most games urgh).

????

It's been awhile since I've played Bloodlines, and I've only beaten the game once. I think I'll play again with this Camarilla Edition patch, and see how it goes.

I'm suprised a developer hasn't made a new vampire game with this current vampire craze going on.
I think White Wolf is working on an MMO based on their newest ruleset.

I confess i am having trouble picking locks on doors, trying to get into the Ocean Front HOtel, which is am amazing scene btw, beautifully done. I was not paying attention i guess in the tutorial level, what is the best way to add "energy" to the lockpicking? i wanted to see if anyone can give me a tip. I love the sewers too, they are beutifully done.

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Two words: Blood Buff.

It boosts all of your physical attributes, so it buffs dexterity and therefore lock-picking. Turn the lights off and enjoy the hotel hehehehehe... :devsmoke:

ah, i thought maybe that was it. I thought i tried it, and failed. Whatever I tried used up a lot of my blood supply. I have to go back to town and "resupply" i think i have some extra in my fridge if nothing else turns up...

k i will use BloodBuff thanks very much Evil. :)

You're going to have to invest some points in lock-picking as well. It's one of the most important skills.

Not to give away too much, but there's a skill book that can boost the skill. It can grant either Level 3 or 4. Of course, you're going to want to invest points in Level 3 and use the book for Level 4.

ah, i thought maybe that was it. I thought i tried it, and failed. Whatever I tried used up a lot of my blood supply. I have to go back to town and "resupply" i think i have some extra in my fridge if nothing else turns up...

k i will use BloodBuff thanks very much Evil. :)

Aside from lockpicking the Ocean House front door, there should be a key you can grab in the trailer(the pale blue one, with the door - just a bit to the left in your first pic).

I confess i am having trouble picking locks on doors, trying to get into the Ocean Front HOtel, which is am amazing scene btw, beautifully done. I was not paying attention i guess in the tutorial level, what is the best way to add "energy" to the lockpicking? i wanted to see if anyone can give me a tip. I love the sewers too, they are beutifully done.

Search the worker's shed in front of the Ocean House, it should contain the key to the front door. Once you get inside, search the place thoroughly, there is an occult item inside that provide you with a handy buff that can be easy to overlook if you just pursue your main goal.

As for blood (you seem a bit low on it in your screenshots :)), you can buy blood bags at the Blood Bank in the Santa Monica hospital unless you've pissed off Vandal. Otherwise you can loot bags in various locations throughout the game. But you should save those for when you're out on expeditions in areas without any humans or animals to feed on (like the Ocean House hotel). Feeding on rats in the sewers or random humans wandering through secluded back-alleys is otherwise a good, free source of blood (be sure to stop before draining them dry).

You can also feed on hostiles in combat areas if you find someone who's alone (or you've already taken down all their nearby buddies). Just be sure to drain them dry if you do since they won't be sedated after combat feeding. If you've got the Domination or Dementation disciplines this also works on pairs of enemies if you use Hysteria or Trance to incapacitate one of them while you feed on the other. :)

Once you get access to Downtown LA there are a few good feeding spots where you're unlikely to be spotted, like the bathrooms on the ground floor of the Empire hotel, and the long back-alley near Confession in the direction towards The Last Round. :)

THANK YOUI !!! that was very nice everyone..all that help, really helps! I am loving this game and sometimes i think i dont pay attention enough, i get distracted by all the wondeful scenery and fun things. thanks a lot. this will help greatly. :)

There are 2 girls inside the Asylum and another in the Confession and Vesuvius that you can seduce or persuade to use as your 'blood dolls'. You have to have a high enough persuade/seduce the first time you talk to them, however, or they may not give you the option later. It's the only time you can feed openly. As long as you don't drain them completely, they'll regenerate blood slowly over time.

There are 2 girls inside the Asylum and another in the Confession and Vesuvius that you can seduce or persuade to use as your 'blood dolls'. You have to have a high enough persuade/seduce the first time you talk to them, however, or they may not give you the option later. It's the only time you can feed openly. As long as you don't drain them completely, they'll regenerate blood slowly over time.

It seems to me they refill once you leave the map(as in, the next time you come back, you can feed from them again). Though with all of them, once you seduce them, you don't have to do it again, as their opening line usually alludes to them wanting to see you again. And they will give you the seduction like as soon as you have enough points to get it, though until you do, it will be constant rejection. :)

And just as note, I'd avoid feeding on homeless people downtown. Everytime I've done it, it proved useless.(Trust me, I know why It happens - just don't want to spoil it if a first time player doesn't want to know yet)

There are 2 girls inside the Asylum and another in the Confession and Vesuvius that you can seduce or persuade to use as your 'blood dolls'.
There's also another blood doll in Chinatown, in the Red Dragon restaurant. She's the hardest one to seduce.

It seems to me they refill once you leave the map(as in, the next time you come back, you can feed from them again). Yes, you only need to leave the map and come back. It isn't time-based (not in the vanilla game anyway).

Ah i did find that one girl upstairs at the assylum, i was ashamed to admit what happened, she was there and we were talking and i got a seduction line, and i guess it worked because some stuff happened and all of a sudden i was feeding on her...it was a bit of a surprise :) and i was worried someone would see me... but it is good to know that it is ok, i guess i/my avatar has a way with the ladies :) thanks for explaining that. I will go see her again. i have to learn to watch my blood supply :)

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Aw, look, everyone. The fledgling's getting his wings. Isn't he cute? :vamp1:

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hehe, well i was quite suprised...my in game self has some moves....i must say, i forget exactly what the girl said but my guy went into action before i even know what was up.... :):eek:

wow....all i can say is...WOW, what an amazing scene in that old hotel, i have not had so much fun and been so well scared in a long time.

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I am enjoying getting to know my in game self.... a bit pale but he is doing pretty well for a newbie... at least he is still 'dead' and moving...

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the hotel and the interior is just amazing, in ambience and detail..and the way things happen, i wont spoil it with details for other new players, but...it is amazing.. :)

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the feeling of an old abandoned hotel is awesome, by chance, i was a manager for a large 100 room hotel on a lake in colorado that was empty most of the time, and falling apart...and i lived on site, and spent many nights alone in there....so this was an amazing deja vu for me....

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the special effects, well what can i say but just fantastic!

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and on to my next quest.....

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HAHA! Somebody's been playing around with the money cheat. :xp:

That haunted hotel is legendary. It was awesome my first playthrough. I reached a dead end and turned around...

It's got to be one of the hair-raisingest settings in a video game, and there's no gore and very little danger. It's all atmosphere.

Indeed. Even after umpteen playthroughs where you know all the cues by heart, it never really loses that atmosphere. I think it's a good argument against all the people whining about clichéd settings in games. It takes a well worn old trope and makes fantastic use of it.

Indeed. Even after umpteen playthroughs where you know all the cues by heart, it never really loses that atmosphere. I think it's a good argument against all the people whining about clichéd settings in games. It takes a well worn old trope and makes fantastic use of it.

I've played through that area probably 5 or 6 times now, and I still cannot play that area at night--it creeps me out that badly. But man, it's so fun.

Anyone who wants to make a horror game should be required to playthrough that area. Its a fantastic piece of work.

it is sooooooo creepy!!!!! i was screaming and running forward and ducking at the same time...AND jumping to get outof the way of the damn pots and exploding lightbulbs, geez that hotel must go though boxes of bulbs in a day !

I still count "Ocean House" as my favourite area of any game of all time. It's that good.

I can play through it now and not jump at all, but my first and second playthroughs where quite nerve racking, but in a good way. lol

I literally, and no joke, fell out of my chair the first time the light popped on the front door! Nothing in any game ever startled me that much. THEN, just a few minutes later, the game outdid itself with just two words:

Beeeee caaaarefuuulll.

i never was able to pick any of the locks in there, i need to learn how to do that ..if i am to do it in future areas..... i tried clicking on the blood buff but it did not seem to help.

i never was able to pick any of the locks in there, i need to learn how to do that ..if i am to do it in future areas..... i tried clicking on the blood buff but it did not seem to help.

You mean it always fails, or it doesn't let you pick the lock at all? Some doors might be two high to pick at that point in the game, or requires a key.


Such as the front door of Gallery Noir, that requires a key, or a lockpicking skill of 10. The side door, needs either the key, or a skill of 1.

I think the ones i was trying needed a key that appeared later in the plot but there may have been one that was just too hard to pick in the hotel, not sure. The process did appear, where you see the hands picking the lock but i just did not succeed in any yet, since the tutorial level where you learn about it and that did indeed work.

Some of the locks will tell you that the are not 'pickable' because you have to find the key for them. I think one of the basement doors requires a very high lockpicking score to open (8 or 10?), which most of us can't get to typically that early in the game even with blood buff. If you make the attempt, it should tell you what level of lockpicking skill you need, or if a key is required.

@ Bob--I made the mistake of not saving when I heard the 'Beeee Carefulllll'. I've not made that mistake anytime after that. :D And yes, that part of the game still can make me jump, heh.

Well, not that I have much to do with it, but Wesp's 6.8 patch was released recently.
http://forumplanet.gamespy.com/bloodlines_tech_support/b50391/20196485/p1/?26)

Don't know exactly why I'm posting it, but this is generally my idea of Vampires(not so much the skin - that's just a literal view of "BlueBlood"), at least when eyes are concerned.


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i lost my previous computer and install of VtMB but now just got it re installed and began the tutorial. I had a werid bug crash freeze just before we went to see the guy in the alley who I have to sneak by, but i will try again. HOPefully i got things installed right.

Look forward to getting back in, had to start over as my saves did not make it, assuming they were supposed to be in the SAVE folder in the VtMB folder?

anyhoo, back to it soon i hope. I am posting here with the permisiosn of the thread creator in spite of it being a bit of time since the last post. :)

You lost your computer? Was it a hardware failure, or did you actually, physically lose it?

I had a cascade failure of the HD caused by starforce drivers and issues aroudn their removal...could not restart the HD in the system..so i saved the old HD and installed it as a slave drive (love that term) in new box with a new card and upgraded dual core system ..and all is well.

I am back in VTmB and loving it, made progress past where i was before finished the two sisters quest, wow, that was a surprising ending on that one! i must say! and i got to blow up the warehouse..that was fun too, and as a lover of old trains i loved the railyard, there is so much beatufiul detail in this game..the Diner is stunning, ....now i found Vampires can take cabs and i am downtown.....just cant say enough good things about this game and the care they took in building the world..and the characters! they are awesome.

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Yeah it's an excellent game - even after all this time. Just started playing it myself fairly recently, and it has completely taken over from Dragon Age etc. I've been consistently playing as Ventrue, can't seem to play as anything else.:xp:

The hotel has to be one of the most atmospheric levels in any game about - even after reading some of the hints about it here, I panic-shot one of the ghosts when it popped up behind my character with an axe!

It's such a shame that a sequel is so extraordinarily unlikely...:(

the hotel is amazingly creepy...those running and leaping ghosts are so real looking...the whole episode is simply fantastic. And very very scary :)

I picked up this game a few weeks ago, and WOW

I was extremely impressed by it. I played Deus Ex several dozen times in the past, and wasn't expecting gameplay that felt like it. Just how you could do potential ghost runthrew , the moral ambiguity and impressive story reminded me of it.

Very highly recommended game by me. I adored playing as different kinds of Vampire clans and noticing the gameplay style shift dramatically. (Playing a Nosferatu especially). It had a very satisfying endgame with multiple endings depending on certain choices you made in the game.

My love of Jeanette is well documented.

Best clan is the Malkavians. There are so many little touches when playing a Malkavian it's just awesome.

STOP!
NO! YOU STOP!

Anyway, refer to this thread - http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?t=176869)

Best clan is the Malkavians. There are so many little touches when playing a Malkavian it's just awesome.

QFE although to fully and better appreciate the "Malkavian Experience", I think it is best if it is not during the first play through.

"Shelley? Is that you? I'm so sorry I flushed you!" :rofl:

I agree with Darth333 completely--it's best to play a 'regular' class first so you have some idea of what's going on when you play as a Malkavian. Some of the comments become even more funny when you know what the 'normal' answer is and then you see the totally off-kilter responses the Malkavians have.

"Hey."
"TV man?!"

I recommend either Toreador or Brujah for a first playthrough, if only to get the desire to use the "I win" "bullet-time" discipline out of your system.
My love of Jeanette is well documented.
Therese was hotter. :p