Unless you're into pornstars with idiotic bewb jobs, anything over "money 1.2" looks ridiculous.
I tried it out one time just to see how big the devs thought they could get away with. I laughed at the first increase, and was rolling laughing by the time I got to the biggest version.
I tired to use the money cheat for... money.
I thought my vid card was going out when I saw the result. Actually took me a while to realize what was going on. I thought the cheat would give me money, dammnit.
I thought my vid card was going out when I saw the result. Actually took me a while to realize what was going on. I thought the cheat would give me money, dammnit.It does, though indirectly; Bigger bust, better job. :carms:
Seems like the only way to get easy money without doing a crapload of quests to get it, is spawning the rings, watches, car stereo's and such and then selling them. If your into using the cheats, however.
Kinda wish they were a little more creative with the player models, however. With some of them, like the Ventrue, I like each of the armors(why the call it armors when its clear that its mostly leather, cloth and likely polyester for most of the clothing I don't know) for it, but the textures lack a bit. I do wonder why each of the player models have the bluish tone when starting a new game, and on the info menu.
Can we find in somewhere Heather Poe after releasing her or she disappears?
Heather is gone for good if you release her (and so is your possibility to get the best armor in the game, in case you are an equipment whore). Not that I'd ever release her as she seems to be one of the few people whos' screwed enough to actually have a bether life as a ghoul.
Or would have had if it wheren't for those damned cowards. Still remember going after her as a genuinely pissed raving, warformed, wolf/bat summoning gangrel (modded so no batboy appearance, only the stage below)
With the unofficial patch, you can tell her to stay indoors and avoid her being kidnapped and killed. I think the option comes up after either the museum or the the debris outside of LaCroix's tower appears (but it will disappear if you enter the tower before talking to her).
They have some interesting questmods for the game now. I'll have to try them when I get tired of Dragon Age.
Where are the best places to find those mods?
Here, I believe:
http://www.moddb.com/games/vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines/mods)
Now if only it was possible to fix the animation problems with some of the models(mainly ones concerning long skirts or long jackets).
Just found out about VtMB, sounds great, I wondered if anyone plays Redemption as well? I will read the back posts here soon and am very glad to have found out about this classic, from the screenies it looks like a very interesting game. I read some references to some sort of release in 2008 but i think maybe that was a book, not sure yet.
thanks for the info about the console and the tweaks. Also for the link for mods. Do we have to activate the console with an ini fix? thanks again for all the great posts here.
Get the latest version of Wesp5's Unofficial Patch (Version 6.6, I think). You won't need the official patch as Wesp has integrated it into his patch. Wesp's patch fixes a lot of the bugs that the official patch missed.
Be sure to choose the "Basic" patch for your first playthrough(s), because while the "Plus" option restores a lot of cut content, it also includes a lot of revisionism so it's really only appropriate for subsequent playthroughs, IMO.
I would choose Clan Toreador for my first playthrough. Have fun! :)
I would choose Clan Toreador for my first playthrough. Have fun! :)I remember when I told a friend of mine that played the PnP version of Vampire that I played a Toreador. He told me that once in his PnP campaign his Tremere wore a Toreador as a hat for 3 weeks.
Just found out about VtMB, sounds great, I wondered if anyone plays Redemption as well? I will read the back posts here soon and am very glad to have found out about this classic, from the screenies it looks like a very interesting game. I read some references to some sort of release in 2008 but i think maybe that was a book, not sure yet.
thanks for the info about the console and the tweaks. Also for the link for mods. Do we have to activate the console with an ini fix? thanks again for all the great posts here.
To activate the console, you'd need to edit the shortcut on your desktop. Once you add "-console" to the "target" line, the console will appear when you hit the main menu. But there should be a space between the directory and -console, as in it should look like this:
"[drive letter]:\Program Files\Activision\Vampire - Bloodlines\Vampire.exe" -console
Though you won't be able to use the console if you didn't click on that shortcut to start the game.
I would choose Clan Toreador for my first playthrough. Have fun!
I choose Malkavian for my first playthrough, as I knew what to expect. That and Ventrue would have to be my favorites.
I choose Malkavian for my first playthrough, as I knew what to expect. That and Ventrue would have to be my favorites.A Malkavian playthrough is hi-larious, but my suggestion for a first-timer would be to play it with one of the more sane and rational clans once or twice to get a clearer idea of the story.
As much as they are pretty boys, Toreador are probably a good choice for someone new to Vampire. Celerity is very useful and the Seduction bonus is put to good use.
Never played Ventrue, so I can't comment much on them, but I imagine they would also be a good first choice with their Dominate talent.
Brujah and Gangrel are nice and fighty, but a melee-heavy build can be at a disadvantage in the endgame. Probably better off as a second playthrough.
Tremere have some nice spells, but it comes at a cost. They are not advisable for a first run.
Malkavian as I said are great value, but their dialogue doesn't make them an ideal first run candidate.
Nosferatu definately should not be a first run choice. Playing them in some respects is like playing a whole other game. I'd definately only tackle them after a few playthroughs with other clans.
A Malkavian playthrough is hi-larious, but my suggestion for a first-timer would be to play it with one of the more sane and rational clans once or twice to get a clearer idea of the story.
As much as they are pretty boys, Toreador are probably a good choice for someone new to Vampire. Celerity is very useful and the Seduction bonus is put to good use.
Never played Ventrue, so I can't comment much on them, but I imagine they would also be a good first choice with their Dominate talent.
Brujah and Gangrel are nice and fighty, but a melee-heavy build can be at a disadvantage in the endgame. Probably better off as a second playthrough.
Tremere have some nice spells, but it comes at a cost. They are not advisable for a first run.
Malkavian as I said are great value, but their dialogue doesn't make them an ideal first run candidate.
Nosferatu definately should not be a first run choice. Playing them in some respects is like playing a whole other game. I'd definately only tackle them after a few playthroughs with other clans.
Well, as it was, it is possible to easily playthough as a Malkavian, if you actually think about the choices. At least, for me it is.
Though the Character "Rosa" essentially tells you about nearly every event in the game, if you can get the references she makes. Such as:
[here be spoilers]
"You have been....no, your going to china."
Chinatown that is.
You Chased it for the one at the top of the tower=LaCroix
You found it....In the Crypt=Giovanni Crypt
Its open, its open, Run!=Run indeed, as its C4 in the box
The Crimson ship = Blood Spattered Elizabeth Dane
He's not who he says she is, and its going to burn=Nines(Really Ming) killing Grout, and his mansion burning down
Dinosaurs? He's furious= Museum, and Stolen Box
Voice In the Darkness, Boss=Gary, Nosferatu Warrens
thank you very much for the help and tips, i will be very interested to try several clans, but will have to pick one for the first time. As i know nothing at all about the story, which is advisable? Being a total noob makes it very intriguing i must say, and I do appreciate the info on how to activate the console. :) thanks will store that info in my notes. So far, I only know about the moneychest command, any other helpful but non cheat commands welcome. :) thanks again.
I did Gangrel the first time, and it worked well, however, unless you plan on playing as a murderous monster (i.e lying to get people eaten, stuff like that), you won't be at your full potential.
It depends a bit on what you want to play, if you want to go mele and isn't afraid of a challenge in the end game, go for Brujah/Gangrel. If you want to use guns and want an easier time, pick Toreador.
I have been considering getting myself this game in the New Year - looks and sounds most interesting (that Ventrue class especially), but I just wanted to check one thing out - does anyone happen to know if it is compatible with the 64 bit Vista? Just I've had problems with a couple of games that are Vista compatible, but not 64.
Apologies if this has been asked and answered already! ;)
I played Toreador for my first playthrough on stoffe's recommendation, and her advice was excellent. You _can_ play Malkavian on your first playthrough, but since that clan is bat-**** crazy, it will be really hard to know what's going on for parts of the story. You're much better off playing one of the sane classes first. I have a Malk playthrough going now (along with Dragon Age and LOTRO's new expansion Siege of Mirkwood, and Lego Rock Band with the kids--no loss of games there!). After that I'm going to go for Tremere.
Just some tips--make sure to search all rooms and pick up all books. Don't read the books that increase your skills. Save your game right before you talk to a merchant (such as Trip in Santa Monica). Sell your book to him. Buy it, exit the conversation, use the book to increase your skill, and then buy another copy of the book from him and repeat the process until you can't buy the book anymore. Why save before you sell it? If it only lets you use the book once, you can go back to the save and just not sell the book.
Also, computer and security skills are heavily used in this game. If you can't pick a lock, try using blood buff and trying again. If you have problems with a computer and have auspex, activate it and retry hacking the computer again.
You can open up more conversations if you put points into persuade, seduction, or intimidate. IMO persuade and seduction accomplish more than intimidate, so I never bother with intimidate. However, it depends on what type of vampire you want to play. If you want to play an SOB type, then intimidate is the way to go. I also feel being a specialist in a few skills seems to work better than being a generalist in many skills, and the clan you pick will help you decide which skills are going to work best for you.
vampyri_lestat's walkthrough (
http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/file/914819/43148) has some very good tips on technical issues that help the game run better, and he has it nicely separated from the rest of the walkthrough so you don't get too many spoilers. It also explains how to activate the console and at the end includes various console codes.
I run the game on Vista on my laptop, and it works fine. However, mine's 32-bit so I don't know if 64-bit will make a difference or not.
Enjoy the game!
I have been considering getting myself this game in the New Year - looks and sounds most interesting (that Ventrue class especially), but I just wanted to check one thing out - does anyone happen to know if it is compatible with the 64 bit Vista? Just I've had problems with a couple of games that are Vista compatible, but not 64.
Apologies if this has been asked and answered already! ;)
Yes, it is compatible, but only with the unofficial patch. I've run the game on Vista Ultimate 64-bit without a hitch before I switched to Windows 7 Ultimate (also 64-bit).
Thanks Jae for those excellent tips, much appreciated. I will try to be somewhat sane for the first run thru so probably T Clan will be the way to go to start. Really appreciate the advice... and look forward to this a lot. :) I have a XP system so expect it will be ok with running, but will study the tweak guidance suggested with many thaniks. Grabbed Vampyri's guide and will study the set up suggestions there.
I also have ordered Redemption so may try that first or after... both were a bit pricey but i wanted to get the best copies of both i could find. :)
Those 2 games are almost totally unrelated. From what I've read, while Bloodlines is almost universally praised, opinions of Redemption are mixed at best and I haven't bothered with it.
You don't have to play Redemption in order to play Bloodlines. I've never played Redemption, and I love Bloodlines.
I run the game on Vista on my laptop, and it works fine. However, mine's 32-bit so I don't know if 64-bit will make a difference or not.
Yes, it is compatible, but only with the unofficial patch. I've run the game on Vista Ultimate 64-bit without a hitch before I switched to Windows 7 Ultimate (also 64-bit).
Thanks very much! I'll definitely look into getting this, then. :thmbup1:
OK i wont worry about Redemption for now. thanks for the word on that. :)
Tiny sugestion since you play a Toreador (and not using the +patch), if you see someone in Santa Monica who look as if they have taken more punishment than Stalingrad, be nice to them.
ah? wow. I remember Santa Monica as having quite a few people like that in real life, (i grew up in Santa Barbara ) ...hehhehe
but i will keep a wary eye out... I am a bit sorry not to get to see all the restored content in the full 6.6 patch but i will be good and play with out that for the first time...i love restorations. :) thanks for all the help guys, i think my copy of the game will arrive this week, which is great, just in time for my Birthday which i hope will be in this new experince :) really appreciate the tips.
From what I've seen the plus stuff is far less about restoration than it is about random decisions on content changes/additions on the part of the patch maker/s. Hence why people advise against using it the first time through.
Yeah, no restorations in the pluss patch, but the aditions/changes are, in my mind, a nice improvement and makes the game a little bit harder.
ok, i will stick with the non plus version..it is amazing how much work has continued on this game in the patching and community work. Great to see.
it is amazing how much work has continued on this game in the patching and community work. Great to see.It shouldn't be surprising - after all KOTOR is a year older than Bloodlines (a year and a half if you count the Xbox version) and it has all sorts of modding still going on, as evidenced by this very forum. Hell, there's still a strong mod community for Baldur's Gate 1 & 2, and those are 11 and 9 years old respectively.
Yes good point..what i should have said is it is wonderful to see. I have the greatest admiration and respect for these efforts .... they make the original games so much richer in so many ways.
Yes good point..what i should have said is it is wonderful to see. I have the greatest admiration and respect for these efforts .... they make the original games so much richer in so many ways.
Though I'm not sure if other games have had the same sort of case, for Bloodlines, things Troika cut for the release, is still on the disk(or rather within the vpk archives), just not used within the game. Such as the myriad of scenery pieces that the 6.6 patch adds to many levels in the game, along with a unused few models, and quests that the official patch won't give you(such as the poster quest, as in it doesn't log in the quest menu).
It was actually a pretty common practice in the days of yore, just not so much now in the post-Hot Coffee world.
OK, installed today and it wont run. VtMB. I get this error:
vampire caused an Access Violation (0xc0000005)
in module vampire.exe at 001b:00000000.
Read from location 00000000 caused an access violation.
Context:
EDI: 0x00a1af08 ESI: 0x01922ac0 EAX: 0x00000000
EBX: 0x201cc6e0 ECX: 0x02401fbc EDX: 0x00000000
EIP: 0x00000000 EBP: 0x0012e5a4 SegCs: 0x0000001b
EFlags: 0x00210202 ESP: 0x0012e3d0 SegSs: 0x00000023
Bytes at CS:EIP:
?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??
-----[ SysInfo ]-----
Error occurred at 12/11/2009 14:29:18.
1 processor(s), type 586.
21% memory in use.
2048 MBytes physical memory.
2048 MBytes physical memory free.
0 MBytes paging file.
4092 MBytes paging file free.
2048 MBytes user address space.
1468 MBytes user address space free.
It loaded fine and i get the start screen but when i select play.....black screen and no go.
from reading the many many other post about this on the net, i believe i have too much RAM, i have 3GB. Is there any way around this? I am using an AMD 3400 2.6 ghz system, with FX 7600GT card, XP Pro, i did the 1.2 patch and then the 6.6 basic.. but no joy. Any fix for this?
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UPDATE: Got it running! :)
I was able to get the game to run. thanks for the posts everyone.
I copied all the dll files in the BIN directory in the game install to the main directory esp the MS32.dll. I also was able to restore the main vampire.dll in the Vampire/dll folder and made sure that the python entry was correct in the registry. Now it runs fine. I stared wtih just the 1.2 official patch and ran it thru the intro movie to the tutorial section and the first bite. Then i installed the unofficial 6.6. patch and it seems to be running fine. There are some console errors but i guess i will wait to see what they mean...or if they impede play.
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/6231/consoleio.jpg)
There were over 200 entries in Google for the same error and lots of people having trouble with this, so i was glad to be able to figure it out. I am not sure yet if those console errors that showed up on start up will hurt anything but i will watch carefully.
I am assuming that console comands need to be re entered each session.
OK, installed today and it wont run. VtMB. I get this error:
It loaded fine and i get the start screen but when i select play.....black screen and no go.
from reading the many many other post about this on the net, i believe i have too much RAM, i have 3GB. Is there any way around this? I am using an AMD 3400 2.6 ghz system, with FX 7600GT card, XP Pro, i did the 1.2 patch and then the 6.6 basic.. but no joy. Any fix for this?
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UPDATE: Got it running! :)
I was able to get the game to run. thanks for the posts everyone.
I copied all the dll files in the BIN directory in the game install to the main directory esp the MS32.dll. I also was able to restore the main vampire.dll in the Vampire/dll folder and made sure that the python entry was correct in the registry. Now it runs fine. I stared wtih just the 1.2 official patch and ran it thru the intro movie to the tutorial section and the first bite. Then i installed the unofficial 6.6. patch and it seems to be running fine. There are some console errors but i guess i will wait to see what they mean...or if they impede play.
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/6231/consoleio.jpg)
I put the fix files into a fix pack which is here: VtMP Fix Pack (
http://www.filefront.com/15113715/VtMB-Fixes.zip/)
There were over 200 entries in Google for the same error and lots of people having trouble with this, so i was glad to be able to figure it out. I am not sure yet if those console errors that showed up on start up will hurt anything but i will watch carefully.
I am assuming that console comands need to be re entered each session.
I'm not sure, but I think those errors are the same ones I get. They don't impede play as far as I've seen.
Though for the console commands, they will stay active on the save you entered them on, such as if you begin a playthrough and active either the "god" cheat or the "Buddha" cheat, you' wouldn't die at any point on that save, though for other saves, it won't affect them. For some cheats, such as money, you can add that to your autoexec file, located in "[main-bloodlines directory]/vampire/cfg", by just adding "money [number, usually not more than 1.20]".
ah ok thanks. I am so glad to get things running and to see the start. The graphics look really nice in the brief glimpse i had in the tutorial section. The little details, like the light of the man lighitng the cigarette before i bit him, those touches are epic and really great to see. Thanks for the help ...looking forward to my first play thru.
btw, is there a way to restore or activate the histories before i start? I understand they are turned off by default, ...because they were unfinished? is this fixed by the 6.6 mod? I did after all install the complete version, not just the basic, i really wanted to see all the restorations. I will hopefully be able to figure things out as i go along.
If you look at the console in any Source game (HL2, Portal, etc.) you'll always see errors of one sort or another about missing files and the like.
As far as real errors go, the only thing I seem to recall having problems with, aside from random crashes, was to do with Python. It wouldn't run with a newer version I had installed. But that was years ago - I think that was addressed in one of the unofficial patches.
ah ok thanks. I am so glad to get things running and to see the start. The graphics look really nice in the brief glimpse i had in the tutorial section. The little details, like the light of the man lighitng the cigarette before i bit him, those touches are epic and really great to see. Thanks for the help ...looking forward to my first play thru.
btw, is there a way to restore or activate the histories before i start? I understand they are turned off by default, ...because they were unfinished? is this fixed by the 6.6 mod? I did after all install the complete version, not just the basic, i really wanted to see all the restorations. I will hopefully be able to figure things out as i go along.
I'd assume that for the clan you chose, it just says "History:None" under the info menu, right?. The histories were implemented in one of the first few unofficial patches, and of course are active in the 6.6 version(the same I'm running).
Your best bet is to look at the History names and effects in the new game screen, chose the one you want(but not start a new game), then load your already started save. Open the console, and type "vhistories", which should give you a list of histories available to your clan. Find the name of the one you selected, and then type in "vhistory", along with the number beside the history name.
I chose Toreador ...on advice from here :) mm, uh, I think i understand about what you say about histories, i do have 6.6 installed and the console is active. I havent started playing yet so i dont have save, just ran it yesterday to be sure i had it working. Am a totaly newbie but looking forward to it a lot. thanks for all the help everyone.
and i did wonder about the blue colour on my starting out character model but hope i get 'unblue' eventually :)
I chose Toreador ...on advice from here :) mm, uh, I think i understand about what you say about histories, i do have 6.6 installed and the console is active. I havent started playing yet so i dont have save, just ran it yesterday to be sure i had it working. Am a totaly newbie but looking forward to it a lot. thanks for all the help everyone.
and i did wonder about the blue colour on my starting out character model but hope i get 'unblue' eventually :)
That bluish tone only appears on the new game menu when choosing the character stats, and the "info" menu in-game. It won't, or shouldn't appear on the models in the game.
And as a Toreador, you'll want to watch losing humanity. It might not even become a problem, but as you lose double the humanity that other clans would lose, and thus might frenzy easier.
I had NO idea what stats to pick for my character buildling..any suggestions?
I was bluish in the tutorial scene where that guy talks to you and give you the how to of The Bite...etc..... but maybe i was just not well fed yet :)
If you want to go for melee, put points into brawl, melee, and strength. If you want a more shooter type game, put points into dex and wits. Don't put points into firearms initially--you'll find a firearms book in Santa Monica on one of the quests. Save your game, sell it to Trip, and buy it back twice. If you can only buy it once, go back to your previous save and just use the book so you don't lose the money. Just make sure to explore everywhere and talk to everyone you possibly can. You'll get a lot more quests, which will give you a lot more xp. Sometimes after you do certain quests, people will have new dialogue options for you.
Also, anything that increases your persuasion is good--it opens up a lot more dialogue options for you, and can keep you out of fights. Remember, you get xp for completing quests, not for killing everything that moves.
You can gain humanity points back if you dance in a few clubs for about 5 minutes. If you go to the dance floor, you'll eventually find a selectable dance option. Select it and just dance until it says that you've gained humanity. You can only do this once per club.
You can gain humanity points back if you dance in a few clubs for about 5 minutes. If you go to the dance floor, you'll eventually find a selectable dance option. Select it and just dance until it says that you've gained humanity. You can only do this once per club.
Seriously? In all of my many playthroughs I never figured that one out. It's nice to know that there are still new things I can discover about this game. :)
There's one in the Asylum, and I believe one in Ash's club. I don't think there's one at the club in Downtown LA.
There's one in the Asylum, and I believe one in Ash's club. I don't think there's one at the club in Downtown LA.
At Confession its a small area, though it is there. Should be the right-top of the cross, when looking at it from the bottom, or near the entrance. There is one at Glaze too, which should be the area directly across from the main doors. Though I've never really used the dancing thing much, aside from when I play as a female Malkavian, though still randomly.
GReat thanks so much for the suggestions. What a hoot,the dance thing. and a great way to restore humanity too lol. In both virtual and real worlds. :) thanks a LOT..for all of that. I am looking forward to the dialogue, i love games where there is a lot of conversation and interaction, really do.
I was bluish in the tutorial scene where that guy talks to you and give you the how to of The Bite...etc..... but maybe i was just not well fed yet :)
"That guy" is Jack. Also know as "Smilin' Jack." He is quite possibly the greatest NPC of all time.
He is so awesome, his voice will be mimicked by robots in the future.