Man you guys are FREAKS!. But in a good way. I have one question. What if they work together? Wouldnt they be a unstopable force? I mean from what i heard so far they are practicly gods among men which I agree, but find me a reason why would they fight? They arent even in a same universe, but hec thats would be a blast seeing them fight! Imagine them manouvering each other truying to even harm one another. The grenades exploding and guns blazing in a fight that lasts all day untill they use up all of their ammo. And then they fo into melle... That could be a movie of a century! Of course if Uvve Ball would direct it, it would be thrown into toxic waste never to see the light of day.
O.o, im starting to feel a chill down my spine. BRRRRRRR...
By the way I'm new so forgive me when I say i dont know who would win.
Yeah, we can all tell you're new, don't double post, and that would make a terrible movie.
Maybe, but we will never know will we?
already the way you put it made me get up bang head on the wall a few times and come back and type this. i mean the only thing happening in that movie then would be a bunchof shooting and maybe an ammo depletion crisis.
Don't forget kicking the ass of the real enemy :king1:.
If you ask me I vote for Spartan, because he saved Earth many times and none of the Deltas did that. :swrd2:
Great logic, Alan, how could the Commandos save Earth? RC is a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.
I'm curious, when did this "Spartan" you're refering to save Earth many times?
Yeah, I hear that they fight to save Earth in Halo 2, but it isn't just a spartan. It's the combined force of basically all humans.
The commandos are good, but the spartans are better. Think about it, a squad of commandos against a squad of spartans. The commandos would lose.
Hell no. It would be even. and the commandos saved the galaxy cause if they were never created then they wouldn't set events in motion for the Jedi and Sith so you would never have Kenobi and the clones finding Grevious and I could on and on but you get my point.
also many things in the SW timeline would be different if the commandoes werent created cause the whole war would have lasted longer.
True, true, very true. But didnt John-117 saved Earth by not activating Halo?
I mean if it was activated it would destroy the source of food for Flood which would mean destruction of planets maybe even Earth itself?
But Im off the topic, so a squad of Spartans vs squad of Deltas= even.
i would believe the outcome in a battle with a squad of Spartans vs a squad of commandoes would have the terrain play a big part of it
I agree with taclled. The terrain would play a big part in the battle. And remember, if we're talking squads, the commandos have a lot more than they'd have alone. An E-Web turret would come into play, as would a designated squad sniper and a demolitions expert, capable of leveling an entire hill. I think if we bring this to squads, the commandos just get even better equipped. Sure, the Spartans will gain more equipment, but not as much expodentially as the commandos do.
unless of course U get scorch as the Demo expert. hel'l level a planet and then say sorry lol. also the commandos can request other foregin equipment and a BlasTech EWHB-12 or a VLD2261 laser cannon would come into play as would numerous mines and thermal tape
What about a canyon with two bases on each side with trenches in the middle? Similer to the muti-player level Blood Gulch on Halo. it would be even
What if one commando(lets say "Boss") vs Master Chief. No armour, No weapons, NOTHING. It would be an even match. What do you think taclled, Niner_777, BM-65?
Boss vs Master Chief, no armor, no weapons, NOTHING. - No doubt, Master Chief would win. He could use his high speed and strong muscles to hunt down Boss and tear him apart. The only chance that Boss would have would be if he could hit Master Chief in one of his pressure points hard enough while Master Chief was cradleing him.
However, squad vs squad on Blood Gultch. I don't think that it would be even. The commandos would be able to win if they were attacking or defending. A squad of commandos just has way too much equippment. They could set up their turret on a canyon wall or inside the base. They have tons of explosives compared to the Spartans frag gernades. And they have snipers. Just too much equipment...
TIAIMO
have you played halo before? niner?
lol, O.K. Niner, without armour Boss would be huge compared to Master Chief, the ARCs and Commandos are really well built unlike the normal troopers.
How about the Grand Army of the Republic, including Jedi Generals and Star Destroyers versus whatever the name of Earths army on Halo.
My bet is with the Republic.
Halo92, don't double post.
what we need is for somebody who hasen't played either one and watch a cinematic from both games. a little new to this.
I've played most of the first Halo at my friend's house. MachineCult, I didn't know the size difference. I just figured that Spartans were bigger and stronger because of their augmentations. I do know that clones are 1.83 meters tall.
halo92, ffs, delete your first and third posts in that triple post thing you've got going on, click edit to do so.
Niner, my guess was that Boss and Master Chief were evenly matched but I wasn't aware of Master Chiefs augs.
lol, like I said before, Grand Army of the Republic, including Jedi Generals and Star Destroyers versus whatever the name of Earths army on Halo.
Republic would probably win but about John-117 and Boss hand to hand, John would win because of his augs. Man Spartans are more inteligent, more stronger, more deadly than a avarage human, and very tough to kill. I read about it in Wikipedia. Clones, even Commandos are copies of a ordinary Mandalorian (human). I dont say they are weak but Spartan in his full battle armor weigs 450 kilos and height 2,1 meters. Thats a lot of muscle.
i must say jango is far from ordinary, even for mandos, who are mostly mercs.
I will tell you Mr. Frost that Spartans are not more intelligent or deadlier than commandos. And strength is hard to compare since not many ppl know whats under there Katarn Armor
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What an intelligent contribution.
taclled, I haven't been able to find a picture but the ARC trooper Alpha was captured by Asajj Ventress and he and Obi-wan escaped without his armour, basically just wearing a vest and boxershorts and he was built like Arnie, the Commandos are the same as the ARCs, just put to different use. So what i'm saying is the Commandos are extremely well built, you can tell by the size of the armour compared with the normal Clone armour and the Spartans armour.
Also, can we have a source for the Spartans augs? Because all I remember being mentioned in the game is Master Chiefs armour.
The source for the Spartans' augs for me was Fall of Reach. I think that they described it pretty well.
Also, in Hard Contact, it talks about how muscular the commandos are. Their diets are balanced perfectly so they have no fat.
Thanks machinecult and may i ask WHAT in the Galaxy are augs
Augumentations (sp) are, well how do I put this, improvments to help the joints move more freely and faster. I think. I read the fall of reach a long time ago.
also chech out my link. even though its halo its pretty funny.
Boss vs Master Chief, no armor, no weapons, NOTHING. - No doubt, Master Chief would win. He could use his high speed and strong muscles to hunt down Boss and tear him apart. The only chance that Boss would have would be if he could hit Master Chief in one of his pressure points hard enough while Master Chief was cradleing him.
However, squad vs squad on Blood Gultch. I don't think that it would be even. The commandos would be able to win if they were attacking or defending. A squad of commandos just has way too much equippment. They could set up their turret on a canyon wall or inside the base. They have tons of explosives compared to the Spartans frag gernades. And they have snipers. Just too much equipment...
TIAIMO
I agree Master Chief would rip Boss apart with no equippment.
But a squad of commandos vs a squad of spartans. Who would win would depend on the enviroment like niner said.
But even though the Commandos are clones and Chief is not they'd be about the nearlly the same in strength if the commando has stims with him. But I still think the Chief would be stronger still.
i agree. but we haven't really seen how a squad of spartans would
do. what do you guys think? oh did anyone watch the video? if so did you like it?
Two things. 1. we get to read what a squad of spartans in The Fall of Reach and 2. I've got nearlly all the red vs blue videos on my pc.
One on one, id say an ARC trooper would destroy a spartan anyday. Given the weapons that they have, republic weaponry is far more damaging than covenant/earth weapons, yes there are energy sniper rifles, but again, commandos have it as initial weaponry. Same with grenade launchers. Commandos are trained better (Jango Fett's knowledge VS regular military knowledge). of course a plasma pistol/battle rifle combo, would be a pretty good counter, yet i dont see the covenant handing out a few plasma pistols
One on one without equipment would swing into a spartan's favor, but again, having augments are pretty cheap and would be a dishonorable victory. Although an ARC trooper would still put up a really good fight, maybe breaking a few bones and limbs before going down.
As a point. Spartans are 7-footers in height, they're augmented with horomones and bio-cybernetic implants to increase nervous transmission, decrease sex drive, increase muscular strength and cardio-vascular strength.Oh yeah, and to be so damned tall in the first place. They have optical implants and bone treatments for sight and bone density and strength. In fact the only thing they lack is a strong immune system and maybe live combat experience at start, although they are trained harshly against humans at start.
BTW, most of the upgrades are artificial organics rather than completely machine, so I doubt an EMP would fry them in any way that an athlete on strong dope would.
The only thing that would really chouch them up is probably Trando Concusion rifle. And dont forget Spartans have sticky bomb wich was wery helpfull to me against almost everything, even Hunters.
I just read this yesterday: Spartans are two meters tall with their armor on. I'm not sure if clones are 1.83 with armor or without. I just thought that I'd throw that piece of information in.
Sorry for not being specific,BM, I men't a video.
Have any of you played Killzone?
Yeah Killzone is the best FPS on the PS2 but stay on topic please.
I just had a idea I'll make a topic that we can talk about any FPS and stuff like that.
I mean't what if their army(The helgast army) attacked a clone army?
Oh well it would be a good battle and the clones would just win.......
Please try to say on topic halo92. Spartans vs Commandos!
here is a link to the commando page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clone_commando)
here is the MJOLNIR armor page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MJOLNIR_battle_armor#Replica_MJOLNIR)
for those who haven't seen these pages. (most of you probalaly have seen this.)
i haven't read the halo book first strike but i was told that a few spartans surrvived? give info please!!!!!!!!!!
Indeed they did. If I remember, Kelly survives till the end. Do you want spoilers, because the fates of the others is a bit sad.
If you want spoilers go to en.wikipedia.org type masterchief(halo).
Hey I have a quiz question: What besides the Johns armor has the name MJONRIL?
Despite the fact that topics like this attract misinformed, ignorant fools, and they're just plain stupid, I'll contribute.
Commandos seem to not be able to take nearly as much punishment as Spartans. The shields drain quick, and you can see how much harder it is to kill each other in Halo than in RC Multiplayer. One grande will take down a Commando, but a Spartan could probably survive two. So, if you pit one of each, a Spartan will probably come out on top, but hey, Commandos were never really meant to be a one man fighting force were they?
In the books, however, I don't recall much about a shield on the commandos, but we'll assume that there is one. In the Halo books, the shield is very inconsistant. A single burst from a plasma rifle will drain the sheilds and cause critically high temperatures, yet a Spartan can survive a full on covenent cruiser plasma turret shot!?