NEWS ALERT!!
ANOTHER KOTOR RUMOUR/HOPE LURKING ON IGN
POSTED 26th September 2005 (AEST)
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that sounds like very good, true proof IF IT IS THEN HOORAA! AT LAST!
On Obsidian's home page, they recently announced a partnership with SEGA to produce an origional next gen RPG. This means that either Obsidian is going to finish Neverwinter nights 2, while still working on KOTOR 3 AND start on this new project, (which is unlikely unless this is what they are hiring for, due to the small size of the company), or They are not going to be producing KOTOR 3.
Who can seriously believe that they are already working on Kotor3 anyway? Have a look at this article from february 18th:
http://pc.ign.com/articles/684/684902p1.html)
It's stated out by OE's CEO that they hire people to become able to develop three games in parallel by the end of 2006. That means that by now they're capable to work on two games at a time and we already know that none of them is Kotor3. One is NWN2 and the other is OE's own thing and no franchise.
Yet still Obsidian is the logical choice to make Kotor3 and the graphics engine of NWN2 is the logical choice for Kotor3 (remember NWN, K1 and K2 share the same roleplaying engine and pretty much the same graphics engine). Let's have a look at NWN2: They got the renderer running for some time - the engine as whole should be done except minor detail work, it seems they got the creature modelling done so it is likely that they got the (N)PCs too, the screenshots on the official site show finished maps and it can't be long until they show the first trailers... I assume NWN2 is going to be published in the late 3rd or early 4th quarter 2006 and that's the time they can actually begin to work seriously on Kotor3 and/or the title they develop for SEGA.
Unfortunately most of us who were here for the K2 rumors and stuff have heard things like this before...
I'll belive it when LA announces it and puts that up on their site. ;)
Same with me.
Obsidian Entertainment has 3 projects now.
- Neverwinter Nights 2(Project Pennsylvania) in full production mode
- Project New Jersey: a new IP with an unannounced publisher, a next-gen console action RPG based on Unreal engine 3, in full production mode
- Project Georgia: a new IP with a publisher SEGA, in pre-production mode(working on core concepts)Well, I guess that pretty much covers what Feargus Urquhart said he wanted Obsidian to do. Two games in full production and one in pre-production. Doesn't sound like any of these games are the next KotOR.
Hey, dowon. What's your source for Obsidian Entertainment's project names and info that you listed?
Yet still Obsidian is the logical choice to make Kotor3 and the graphics engine of NWN2 is the logical choice for Kotor3 (remember NWN, K1 and K2 share the same roleplaying engine and pretty much the same graphics engine). Let's have a look at NWN2: They got the renderer running for some time - the engine as whole should be done except minor detail work, it seems they got the creature modelling done so it is likely that they got the (N)PCs too, the screenshots on the official site show finished maps and it can't be long until they show the first trailers... I assume NWN2 is going to be published in the late 3rd or early 4th quarter 2006 and that's the time they can actually begin to work seriously on Kotor3 and/or the title they develop for SEGA.If this is true then I wouldn't expect KotOR 3 to be released until sometime in 2008. I just have a hard time believing that LucasArts would wait that long. IMO if LA doesn't get KotOR 3 out by end of 2007 then they're really messed up in the collective head. Of course I'll probably still buy the next KotOR even if it does debut in 2008...
I still want to find out what Project New Jersey is before I will completely rule out it's potential to be the next KotOR. I know. Word on the street is that PNJ is an original IP title but there is always the potential for misinformation, a.k.a. propaganda.
About project new jersey...
http://forums.obsidianent.com/index.php?showtopic=32776&st=15&p=319780&#entry319780)
[project new jersey] is not going to be kotor 3. Obsidian has said that their next game isn't a sequel.
True and true.
About project georgia...
http://forums.obsidianent.com/index.php?showtopic=40776&st=63#)
Ok, MYSTERY solved thanks to Feargus [Urquhart]:
Q: Is the Sega game PNJ?
FU: Actually - just to be confusing. this one is PG (PG=Project Georgia). So, as stated in the IGN interview, PNJ & PG are likely console oriented. NWN2/PP is the PC team
and obsidian's games at wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsidian_Entertainment)
Obsidian Entertainment code-names its projects after a list of U.S. states by date of statehood.
Project Delaware - Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords (KotOR II), released in 2004 for Xbox and in 2005 for PC, is Obsidian's first production.
Project Pennsylvania - Neverwinter Nights 2 is currently in development.
Both are sequels to products originally engineered by BioWare.
There is also a game to be announced, codenamed "Project New Jersey", confirmed by Obsidian employee John Morgan not to be a sequel. Also by words of Urquhart, the company hopes to be around 115 employees by the end of 2006, forming in 2 and a half teams, who will be working on three projects simultaneously. Knights of the Old Republic III is also in the plans of the company, should LucasArts desire it in the future.
On March 23, 2006, Obsidian and Sega announced that they will co-develop a role-playing game (codename: "Project Georgia") based on a new intellectual property. It is currently slated for release on the PC, PlayStation 3, and Xbox 360.
This is rediculous, I mean now that OE has three projects up their sleeves they're probably going to have their hand full for a very long time. Why the heck didn't they choose to do Kotor III? they know that a lot of people want it, is it LA's fault? dam it! very frustrating. Well guys OE has their hands full for probably the next three years. Games take like a year each to make? I'm probably wrong but I think OE will be too busy to make Kotor III.Dam only if I was the boss of OE I would've chose Kotor III over some other s***y games.Well guys lets continue too enjoy the loooooooooooooong wait.
@ dowon - Thanks for providing such detailed sources! :thumbsup:
That seems to pretty much squash the possibility of KotOR 3 being in any form of current development at Obsidian Entertainment. Oh well. :giveup:
So I see current possibilities as:
1) LucasArts has commissioned another developer for the next KotOR but hasn't announced it yet.
2) LucasArts hasn't commissioned a developer for the next KotOR.
3) LucasArts plans to develop the next KotOR in-house.
4) Obsidian Entertainment is developing the next KotOR but isn't saying that they are.
Hmmm... That really narrows it down, doesn't it? [/sarcasm] :roleyess:
Long time no talk, so I figure I'll throw my hat into the fire....we'll hear about Kotor 3 by Christmas, and it'll be out next Summer.
Why the heck didn't they choose to do Kotor III?
Because it's not their choice. They said they would like to do it but it was always clear that NWN2 would come first.
Well guys OE has their hands full for probably the next three years.
Why? I believe NWN2 is getting into the final state of production soon and project NJ is in full production for some time now and maybe they show it at the E3. If they do it will likely be published before xmas or in the late 1st quarter 2007. I think it's not a tough prediction to say that both games that are in full production now will be published within one year and probably earlier.
Long time no talk, so I figure I'll throw my hat into the fire....we'll hear about Kotor 3 by Christmas, and it'll be out next Summer.
While I would appreciate that, my guess is more coservative: We'll hear about a new project for LA around september/october 2006, hear that it is in fact Kotor3 in 12 months from now and get it in the 4th quarter 2007.
Obsidian Entertainment said that they arent working with Kotor 3 now (because of other projects) and Bioware might do it after Mass Effect.
http://www.totalvideogames.com/news/Obsidian_On_Star_Wars:_Knights_of_The_Old_Republic) _3_9640_5665_0.htm
Obsidian On Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 3
We'd be happy to do KOTOR3 if that's what LucasArts wants us to do...
Speaking to TVG about the in-development NeverWinter Nights 2, Obsidian's Feargus Urquhart was also happy to discuss with TVG the current "will it/won't it" situation surrounding LucasArts Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 3.
"We have been talking with LucasArts to do KOTOR3 since August 2004 and we hoped to do it since KOTOR2 was done. LucasArts is thinking what they want to do with it and we would happily make KOTOR3, if that's what LucasArts wants to do."
So it seems ideas are on the table, whether or not LucasArts will conclude this trilogy faster than they do with others, however, remains to be seen.
We'll have the full interview with Urquhart soon...
Well thats good news, well kinda. Showes Obsidian want to do the game, which is who i want to continue the series.
Lucas should hurry up and decide!
Im glad im not the only one then who just imagined a big inbox of papers on Lucas' desk and Kotor 3 at the bottom... :(
Excellent find, dowon! Well it's good info anyway even if it's not great news...
Awww man! What a disappointment to hear Obsidian's CEO say they have been talking with LucasArts about doing KotOR 3 since August 2004 and they're still talking about it. :( If this is the case then I'm back to wondering if the next KotOR will even be made. Or it's also possible that LA is considering another company instead of Obsidian Entertainment to make the next KotOR.
So it's all up to LA then.
I'll belive it when LA announces it and puts that up on their site. ;)
what this guy said.
Hello! :)
I don't know if this one has already been found but here it is any way.
http://www.joystiq.com/category/rpgs/)
if it has just dismiss it.
cheero.
-Kook. :D
Bioware might do it after Mass Effect.
What? In like 3 or four years? Doubt it. You know Mass Effect is a trilogy right?. That and the fact Bioware dont want to work on anyones IP's except their own.
Lucas should hurry up and decide!Just for the record, Lucas has nothing to do with it. ;)
Just for the record, Lucas has nothing to do with it. ;)
I dont understand, :S they are the publisher of the game, they decide if the third is made, so don't they have EVERYTHING to do with it? ;)
I'd like to see Lucas program a game :p
It's the director of Lucas Arts that decides if a new game is made :)
I dont understand, :S they are the publisher of the game, they decide if the third is made, so don't they have EVERYTHING to do with it? ;)He's referring to George Lucas, while you're referring to LucasArts. Not the same thing.
I wonder what Lucas Arts has to officially say. My reasoning is that there have been several rumors that Obsidian Ent. has been working on KotOR III for some time, and now Feargus Urquhart, the CEO of Obsidian Entertainment comes out and says they have been in talks since August 2004. I think there is a contradiction somewhere.
Some questions that come up:
1. Are they or are they not working on KIII?
2. How long have they 'been working' on KotOR III?
3. Why all the cloak and dagger? Why don't just tell everyone they have been working on KotOR III?
For a company that has been denying they are not in anyway connected to KotOR III, Obsidian has a intresting way of showing there is no connection.
Edit:
This could be Obsidian's way of trying to keep connected to the KotOR series. If you go to LucasArts.com, their Flash advertising no longer has KotOR II. KotOR II was removed from the Flash advertising about a week ago. Obsidian could be trying to keep the KotOR series going.
Therefore, I would take what Obsidian has to say about KotOR III as speculation. Until I hear something from Lucas Arts, I don't know what to believe.
http://www.totalvideogames.com/articles/NeverWinter_Nights_2_Feature_9679_3995_0_0_0_40_60) .htm
Q: Also, staying on the subject of deals, has LucasArts approached you to develop Knights of the Old Republic III?
Feargus Urquhart: We have been in talks with LucasArts to do KOTOR3 since August 2004 and we'd had hopes to start on it after KOTOR2. LucasArts are currently thinking about it, but we'd be really happy to do KOTOR3 if that's what LucasArts wants.
Q: But nothing's been set in stone?
Feargus Urquhart: No.
oooo they are thinking about it!
Whats there to think of?
Everyone wnats it!
When both the developer and Lucas Arts advertise on their home pages, then I will take all those rumors that support it as fact. Until I see it advertised, I will take everything as pure speculation.
3. Why all the cloak and dagger? Why don't just tell everyone they have been working on KotOR III?This is pretty common though...
Same was for Kotor 2...
We thought it was released to quik, but they actually started working on it before part 1 was even released...
Same was for Kotor 2...
We thought it was released to quik, but they actually started working on it before part 1 was even released...
But they still weren't given enough time.
LA had already got a KOTOR3 team and they were working, even before KOTOR2 was released, maybe they picked up were they stopped?
Could be possible. I'd rather not split hairs over it though.
well, hopefully we will see more of it at E3.
This may be old news, but the Obsidian Ent. (
http://forums.obsidianent.com/) forums are a bit interesting.
The link to the General Discussion (
http://forums.obsidianent.com/index.php?showforum=3) area has a "KOTOR 3 Ideas" (
http://forums.obsidianent.com/index.php?showtopic=38919) sticky.
I think they allow non-Obs. people to post,
but it shows workings on their end beyond the "I'd Like to do it" you read in interviews.
I found this
In an interview, Bioware gave a few details about their new project that, according to them, will certainly rattle-up the market the way their past games did like Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights. Gamers will have to wait till E3 though for more information regarding this game. Here's an excerpt of the interview:
FiringSquad: What other hints can you give us about upcoming projects at BioWare?
Ray Muzyka: We’re looking forward to announcing details about our new MMO being developed in BioWare Austin in the near future. We also have an unannounced surprise or two in the works which we will also be sharing at E3 2006, in addition to showing Mass Effect there. The Dragon Age team is hard at work and we’re very excited about how the game is looking so far.
What could this game be? Another KOTOR game perhaps? Since Ray Muzyka is a KOTOR developer, this title could be another Star Wars installment; however, LucasArts doesn't seem to be too keen with the idea of developing KOTOR3. Another guess would be a Jade Empire MMO since the first game had tremendous impact. PC users still demand a PC version of Jade Empire. I also like to see a new preview of their upcoming original fantasy role-playing game, Dragon Age. Now E3 is getting hotter and hotter with these kinds of annoucements popping up.
linkie
http://mmorpg.qj.net/Update-on-upcoming-BioWare-MMO-game/pg/49/aid/19012)
This isn't a rumour, but just some recent news about Kotor III. Enjoy any way.
"LucasArts doesn't seem to be too keen with the idea of developing KOTOR3"
Doesn't sound to good :(
^^^^
my guess is that it means that LA doesn't want to develop the game internally. i'm fairly confident that the popularity of the series will make sure LA will publish the game. ;)
Team Xbox (
http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/10731/Darth-Vader-and-Indy-Coming-Soon-to-a-Console-Near-You/)
It seems that according to this rumor, LA will be developing a Darth Vader Game. With SW Lego 2, Iniana Jones, and this Star Wars DV game, Lucas arts may not be up to publishing KOTOR3.
Hubby told me that he read on one of the tech sites that April 2007 we'll have our third game. I asked him for the link so he's trying to find the post for me.
Team Xbox (
http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/10731/Darth-Vader-and-Indy-Coming-Soon-to-a-Console-Near-You/)
It seems that according to this rumor, LA will be developing a Darth Vader Game. With SW Lego 2, Iniana Jones, and this Star Wars DV game, Lucas arts may not be up to publishing KOTOR3.that would be highly unlikely. i seriously doubt that LucasArts would lack the financial prowess to publish more than 5 games at a time. not to mention that LucasArts would have a difficult time turning its back on a franchise that is already very successful and is one of the most highly decorated series they've ever published.
Hey, I just read this on SW Tactics, What do you think, is it authentic or what? I can't get any verification on it! It was only posted today.
"As a leading representative of Bioware Corp. given the mamoth task of publicising the next in the series of Knights Of The Old Republic games (KOTOR 3), I have permission to confirm that this title is now several months underway.
This may come as a surprise to those who are currently reading this, as it was previously believed that the KOTOR staff had been cut from the LucasArts project. I can also confirm that the KOTOR 3 team is now officially on LucasArts budget and eagerly developing what we hope to be a 'must have' title on as of yet unconfirmed Next Generation platforms for 2006.
Here's the link
http://www.swtactics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=743)
It seems that according to this rumor, LA will be developing a Darth Vader Game. That has been rumored for a long time now.
With SW Lego 2, Iniana Jones, and this Star Wars DV game, Lucas arts may not be up to publishing KOTOR3.Also, they don't have have a bunch of potentially very popular games all coming out at the same time. They'd want to stagger releases a bit.
What do you think, is it authentic or what?Bogus I'd say. There is no link, and it is unlikely that the developer would mention it in passing without an official announcement from Lucasarts.
Bogus I'd say. There is no link, and it is unlikely that the developer would mention it in passing without an official announcement from Lucasarts.
I don't think they'd be sending out an announcement with a spelling error in ite, either.
Sorry it took me some to post this...
I'm a member of the #1 Game magazine of the Benelux, named the Power Unlimited. They had an interesting post on their site. You guys can't read it, so i'll (desperately) try to translate it.
http://www.powerweb.nl/nieuws.jsp?rubriek=423263&id=1245926)
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Bioware has something up their sleeves
Is Bioware Canadian? Yes, we were shocked too, but that isn't the big news. The fact that Bioware has some surprises waiting for us at the E3* (* personal note: It's written as statement!), and will reveal them to us, is!
Other then the announced Mass Effect and Dragon Age, Bioware has confirmed to be working on TWO other games! What kind of games? We will have to wait until the E3.
So let's speculate a bit. Bioware has already released certain information regarding a mmo they are making. Because if you don't hype, the big kids will start bullying you at school* (personal sneer from the writer of the article to hyping. He hates it). So be it. We don't get shocked from mmo's anymore, but this game could be on of the two above mentioned. After several hours of calculating, you will realise that there's one space left. Maybe Jade Empire 2? Or is Bioware picking up the Kotor franchise again? Maybe they will leap back in time and revive Baldurs Gate? No probably...maybe they....would they...
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These guys are never of. Never. They have exclusive deals with developers, and their facts are always bound to be true. For example: in one of the old magazines, it was mentioned that Nintendo was experimenting with touch-screen technology. The DS wasn't even developed. And what do we have now? A touch-screen handheld.
I;m not trying to brag, or impress. But if these guy publish facts, they are true.
Why i posted this? Simple: Now there is an actual CHANCE k3 will appear on E3.
I don't think they'd be sending out an announcement with a spelling error in ite, either. :mm1
Jae, you are too funny.
Sounds like speculation and wishful thinking to me. However, I do believe, for good or bad, we'll have our answer at the next E3.
:mm1
Jae, you are too funny.
Sounds like speculation and wishful thinking to me. However, I do believe, for good or bad, we'll have our answer at the next E3.
Know what's really funny? My spelling error wasn't intentional. :D
I sure hope we hear something at E3.
...actually, that is funnier than if you did it on purpose,
which I thought you did. :laughing:
When is the next E3 anyway?