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Light or Dark

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 Prime
09-06-2005, 9:09 AM
#51
The DarkSide is much more POWERFULL than the light
when you are Dark you have the most and the most
Powerfull Powers!!! Lightning, crush, drain, kill...... and the
list goes on and on.......
(light is nothing)Only if you equate hurting people with power.

It doesn't matter. It all depends on how you use them.I see. So you are frying people to help them. I'm sure they will thank you in their next life...
 fresnosmokey02
09-06-2005, 9:23 AM
#52
I play as both but I think the problem is there isn't enough variety between the two. Sure you get a different ending for DS and LS but the quests are the same or similar. It would be cool if in KOTOR III you only got certain quests if you were DS, the same goes for LS. Also it would be neat to have cretain planets and storylines only open to DS or LS characters. I know TSL had some of that were you could only get Hanharr if you were DS and influence was gained with some only through DS actions, but I would like to see a big difference between being DS and LS. Being an enlightened Jedi in tune with the force is a hell of alot different than being a twisted, corrupt evil bastard.

I totally agree with you. It really does make sense, playing each side does have different goals (or should at any rate) and this should be reflected in actions and quests. However, that being said, I hope they do make a better way to be dark in K3 other than just being an a-hole.
 nas77
09-06-2005, 1:03 PM
#53
I see. So you are frying people to help them. I'm sure they will thank you in their next life...
In the words of Kyle Katarn: "No power is inherently good or evil. It's how you use them." e.g. there's nothing evil about using Force Lightning to kill a Sith who's about to slaughter someone else.
 fresnosmokey02
09-06-2005, 2:17 PM
#54
In the words of Kyle Katarn: "No power is inherently good or evil. It's how you use them." e.g. there's nothing evil about using Force Lightning to kill a Sith who's about to slaughter someone else.

That may be true in general, but for the purpose of these two games, it's a dark side power, it's labeled as such, it costs less to use it when you are dark side, and if you are using the auto-level option you don't even get the power unless you are dark side.

That being said, the urge/need/want to use a violent power like force lightning to crush your enemies is a dark side feeling. You can fall to the dark side crushing enemies with glee and enjoyment, no matter your original alignment. OK, maybe not in these two games but in the rest of the SW universe.
 PoM
09-06-2005, 3:08 PM
#55
"I'd like to buy force lightning, please!"

"That'd be 30 bucks...You don't look evil, so um...That'd be 50 bucks."

"Noooo!!"
*Fries salesman*
"Now that was great! You'll get it for 10 bucks!"


I prefer lightside, in TSL it's just impossible to be mean to T3-M4, he/she/it sounds so sad all the time.
 DarkMe
09-06-2005, 3:34 PM
#56
^^^^^^^^
If only you could buy some Force Powers........to bad...
 Blaze629
09-07-2005, 1:21 AM
#57
Please remember the most important rule about the force as an old wise one once stated: :D

"A jedi uses the force for knowledge and defense. NEVER for attack."

Although Force push could arguably be considered an attack, it is not a malicious attempt to kill, maim, or permanently harm another being. This is the only power that Lucas himself can see a light jedi using frequently. All dark side powers cause injury and death. Lucas himself has said that light jedi do not use these powers due to the temptation and lust for power that it can bring about.
 Lord Pickle
09-07-2005, 3:50 AM
#58
Please remember the most important rule about the force as an old wise one once stated: :D

"A jedi uses the force for knowledge and defense. NEVER for attack."

Although Force push could arguably be considered an attack, it is not a malicious attempt to kill, maim, or permanently harm another being. This is the only power that Lucas himself can see a light jedi using frequently. All dark side powers cause injury and death. Lucas himself has said that light jedi do not use these powers due to the temptation and lust for power that it can bring about.

Right on Blaze629.

Also I like to play as a dark consellor/Sith Lord. I don't have Lord at the front of my name for nothing. Hopefully they will have more options to corrupt people in KOTOR III. It was fun to turn Atton to the dark side. Plus that's what Sith Lords do corrupt people and then use them to carry out their plans of galatic domination. Thats what Sidious did with Anaken/Vader and that is where the fun is.
 ExtreamJedi12
09-09-2005, 6:49 PM
#59
Only if you equate hurting people with power.

I see. So you are frying people to help them. I'm sure they will thank you in their next life...

Yes, I turn them to the light through the dark side of the force.
 lord Rage
09-17-2005, 5:43 PM
#60
I always go the way of the dark its so satisfying
:maul5: :evil6:
 Vibro
09-17-2005, 6:13 PM
#61
I complete the game as DS first then on LS. I prefer DS thogh :sithk:
 Tim Stariynn
09-17-2005, 11:47 PM
#62
Light Side guy. That's because I'm too kind to do anything too bad or that could also be because I hate the way the PC looks when he/she is a Dark Sider.
 Soogz
09-17-2005, 11:51 PM
#63
Lightside. All the time, everytime. Except this time.
 The Doctor
09-18-2005, 6:01 PM
#64
I play all ways...male and female, LS and DS. Then I add mods and do it again....

I do the exact same thing. First, however, I do male LS, then male DS, then female LS, and finally female DS.:)
 lord Rage
09-19-2005, 1:49 AM
#65
Light Side guy. That's because I'm too kind to do anything too bad or that could also be because I hate the way the PC looks when he/she is a Dark Sider.
Yeah but i think it looks awesome
:sithk:
 lord Rage
09-19-2005, 1:54 AM
#66
:emperor: well except palpy hes just freakin mess'd up :emperor:
:coffee:
 tenk
10-04-2005, 3:50 AM
#67
"Yes....I can feel anger in you, do not hold it inside... let it out... let it be your guide..."
dark side is easy, in making choice and judgement....yes Dark-side for me..
 Slave.
10-04-2005, 11:47 AM
#68
I go DS first play through, then LS. Also went through each with the opposite gender to the one i used first time.
 Gasha
10-11-2005, 3:08 PM
#69
I always play LS at my first playthrough, then DS on the second one, but I don't think it's a big difference.
 SpaceAlex
10-11-2005, 4:07 PM
#70
Yeah I know, it's rubbish. If I do play as DS I always make sure I get influence with Handmaiden and turn her into a dark jedi (I think she looks better DS than LS, but maybe that's just me). When she decides to learn the ways of the Force she can even agree to "following a stronger, darker path", or something, and you are told she's a "dark jedi guardian." But she still bangs on about the sanctity of life every time I kill someone! Arrrrgh. Talk about an unruly apprentice.

This is the biggest problem in TSL, though it was not much better in K1. It was actually worse, because nobody really cared if you were DS and nobody said anything, even though you looked like a zombie. In K2, even some non-party members comment on your face.

Now, what they should do in K2 is to change their responses when you turn them to the dark side. That would solve everything. It would be possible to make a mod like this. We would need the same voice actors however, which we sadly cannot get.
 RobQel-Droma
10-11-2005, 4:28 PM
#71
Absolutely light side. Dark side might have more "powerful powers", DarkMe, but as Prime said, that is only if you equate hurting people with power. Lightside powers are powerful too, they aren't nothing-what about Heal? It heals you with a lot of vitality points and cures poison. Drain Life doesn't do that, not to mention that DL is variable on how much you get depending on how good the enemy is, AND you have to be in combat to use it. How about Force Enlightenment? Or Statis Field, makes everybody stunned and helpless?

I agree that force powers are only how you use it to a certain point, although I am not sure Crushing Sith is exactly lightside, but then again, is slicing somebody's head off with a lightsaber lightside:lol:.

Also, Valor, Speed, Armor, and others gives you a tremendous amount of power to your self, because as far as power: Dark Side hurts other people, Light Side gives yourself power- simply put, you could say that Dark Side: damage, Light Side: buffs. I would probably take the "buffs" because even if you can Crush a ton of people, it doesn't matter if they are good lightsaber fighters and get to you finally. Doesn't matter one bit, because if the only thing you can do is hurt them and do nothing for yourself, then they will tear you up. That is why you are going to need some lightside powers to increase your own abilities.

Oh, and by the way, the Dark Side is about being arrogant and greedy, but it is about being an @$$ too (well, it depends what you consider being an A$$)... And it is about being cruel, Sith are self-centered, who ever heard of a nice, kind old Sith?
 RedHawke
10-12-2005, 12:51 AM
#72
Absolutely light side.
:xp: "Only a Sith deals in absolutes!" - Obi-Wan

Oh, and by the way, the Dark Side is about being arrogant and greedy, but it is about being an @$$ too (well, it depends what you consider being an A$$)... And it is about being cruel, Sith are self-centered,
Only your idea of the Dark side... but that is a topic for another thread. :)

who ever heard of a nice, kind old Sith?
It all depends on what 'face' you want to show other people, you can win far more dedicated minions by playing the kinder gentler person, you have to lay out planned events to make your "freinds" see things your way so when you finally reveal yourself as a Lord of the Sith your companions will be confident in that they know who you are, and are loyal to your cause which has now become their cause too, it takes a ton of time and effort to pull this off, but it is worth it in the long run... ;)

"If your people fear you they will merely fight for you, but if they love you they will die for you!" :D
 TreeX
10-12-2005, 6:15 AM
#73
I've always played in the 'Grey' area, sort of bending a bit towards light or dark depending which way is faster to get Nihilus to send Visas and so I can do the Korri tomb.

and Extream... you dont make any sense...

Favorite Combination for me: protection, force immunity, and SPAM LIGHTNING!!!
 Layjock
10-22-2005, 12:57 PM
#74
I usually play as the LS because, like Bastila said earlier, I don't like it when Carth or someone yells at you. Besides, I beat the game using LS force powers easily and when I played as DS, I couldn't get past all the Dark Jedi in the last level.
 The Doctor
10-22-2005, 1:11 PM
#75
Light Side. It makes it feel more... Star Wars....ish.....like......thing....
 ExtreamJedi12
10-22-2005, 3:06 PM
#76
and Extream... you dont make any sense...
I know. I'm crazy. I'm confused. I'm insane. And it doesn't matter.(Fry sith, fry.)
 Darth_Terros
10-22-2005, 3:57 PM
#77
I played the games and took the choices as if i was the PC sadly both times it lead me down the path of darkness

:sithm:
 Blaze629
10-22-2005, 5:56 PM
#78
Twisted.....by the darkside young Terros has become. :D
 BT-Nexus
10-23-2005, 8:50 PM
#79
Dark side, always. Never, ever Light.
 Darth_Terros
10-25-2005, 12:38 PM
#80
Bah! The Jedi are a failing light in the dark!
 Kensai
10-25-2005, 12:55 PM
#81
Grey or Light, But when I do want to unleash hell I will dabble in the mire that is the dark side.
 RobQel-Droma
10-25-2005, 1:32 PM
#82
Well, about the "nice, kind old Sith", the fact is, there isn't one. Maybe you would show a false face to someone, but in that case they wouldn't think of you as a Sith. A real Sith is not kind inside. That is probably why I always play LS, I just can't do all these evil things because that is the way I am.

And I never understood that quote. "Only a Sith deals in absolutes"? I just don't get that, when somebody says anything (Absolutely LS) they are saying an absolute, right? And what about the statement itself, it is an absolute in that case.
 Zs00zsa
10-25-2005, 2:13 PM
#83
Both with Kotor I and II I played with LS first but then tried with DS as well (oh the temptation :snake1: ), and it's quite satisfying either way, tho I agree with those who wrote that the DS side is more thuggish than lordish... Kotor 2 DS playthrough still remains, let's see how can I influence Visas this time :trooper:
 spinkle
10-25-2005, 3:16 PM
#84
If "Only a Sith deals in absolutes" then Obi Wan is a Sith by virtue of claiming that "...Palpatine is evil!" as good and evil are of course absolutes. But why would you want to sully Star Wars dialogue by submitting it to a test of logic? :D

I'm a light-sider myself, though i often take the fear/horror/insanity course instead of stun/stasis/stasis field, since horror affects multiple enemies at 6th level rather than having to wait for stasis field at 15th, and also has a longer duration.

i definitely agree that being yelled at by my party members prevents me from wanting to go DS most of the time, and though my female pc sure did look sexxxy when she first fell to the darkside, she got reeeeeeeeeeal ugly by the end of the game. Most of the dark side powers are meh anyway; Plague and Force Kill aren't worth the time it takes to get to them, and Force Storm makes the game pretty boring when every fight is composed of FORCE STORM FORCE STORM FORCE STORM FORCE STORM.

though i did like Force Crush (since it does what i THOUGHT Kill would do), I'd rather have Force Enlightenment, which is by far my favorite power in the game.
 The Doctor
10-25-2005, 4:34 PM
#85
I played the first time LS, then did a DS file. I most often do LS files.
 Zs00zsa
10-26-2005, 2:25 AM
#86
Btw those who say that LS is weak should play against my LS Jedi Guardian/Jedi Weapon Master with max Speed, Force Armor, Master Battle Meditation, Force Immunity etc... and have Master Lightsaber throw and Force Wave (btw Force Wave is teh greatness), noone could stop her by the end ;]
 Raynoc
10-26-2005, 3:00 AM
#87
I always Do Light side stuff first, (Play too Many Paladins in too many games)
But then I of course run through as a Darksider as well to get
the feel from it as well. And Lets face it...Most times traveling the
dark side just easier!

But we all know that, Yoda told us!
 Clone L68362
10-26-2005, 11:50 AM
#88
I've done DS a few times on 1 but haven't even tried on 2 yet, simply because I like having the whole galaxy love you stead of goin "OMG SITH RUN!!"

That, plus DSers get all gray and ugly.
 Darth Swish
10-28-2005, 2:54 PM
#89
I am a lightside guy my self.
yo darth sooges, if ur a lightsider, why hav u got Darth in ur screen name?
 Darth Swish
10-28-2005, 2:57 PM
#90
Grey or Light, But when I do want to unleash hell I will dabble in the mire that is the dark side.
i like the fact you unleash ur full power when ur on the darkside, but u shud be on the darkside all time untill u feel board then just switch to light, that way you get to play more of the game.
 Darth Swish
10-28-2005, 2:58 PM
#91
good style
 Darth Swish
10-28-2005, 3:05 PM
#92
I think from my avatar you can tell its the darkside all the way.I have tried the light side but i get bored and have to destroy things and people. :mauls:
i like ur style, u sound like an opponent that i jus may want to vs.


my message to all lightsiders is:
i am plague of darkness that spreads all over, i contaminate the light like a uncurable disease, there is no light at the end of the tunel just more darkness, i draw strength from lightside mother****ers by stealing their puny ass lives. i am a virus that can never be detected, when u step to my side of force, there is no coming back
 RobQel-Droma
10-28-2005, 4:04 PM
#93
Hey Darth Swish, next time, combine all of those posts instead of putting 5 posts in a row. There is an edit button at the lower right corner of your posts, there you can change things.

Oh yeah, and why go DS until you get bored and go LS? Why not just go LS until you get bored and go DS, it works the same way. It is not better just to DS first.
 Samurai DD
10-29-2005, 9:18 PM
#94
I play almost all combinations possible, but light side first. Personally, I would be half up the lightside bar.
 spawn666999
01-09-2006, 11:22 AM
#95
dark side

for some reasen i canr play light side dark is just in my nature
 Jae Onasi
01-09-2006, 12:22 PM
#96
LS first for me, and generally most of the games. I play an occassional DS just to get the different comments and to see how how the game gets altered.
 CondorFalco
01-09-2006, 12:33 PM
#97
I always play LS. But i'm a bit unorthodox since I choose the LS dialogue and stuff, but then I spend most of my Force Power Points on DS powers (mainly lighting, grip, destroy droid - all of the (multiple) attack ones, not any of the debilitating ones), then spend the rest on LS, and I always choose heal asap for force powers. I must just like electrical storms! :D
 Ztalker
01-09-2006, 12:59 PM
#98
@ Spawn: I'm your total opposite :) i can only play LS. I did in Neverwinter Nights, Kotor 1&2, and recently Fable :p

I also spend much points into lightning and grip, since it's much more efficient then any light-side power. Also, combined with a high Charisma and Wisdom, the penalty ain't that bad at all :)
 Cygnus Q'ol
01-09-2006, 1:28 PM
#99
I play all ways...male and female, LS and DS. Then I add mods and do it again. I have played every permutation there is. What's really cool about these games is for each way you play there are more details to discover. I have to say that DS is more fun, but LS is more of a challenge. It's much easier to get experience and alignment points playing DS. Another interesting thing is that these games actually make me feel bad for doing DS things. You can get totally immersed in these games. I tried playing neutral once, but I found it uninteresting and there was no prestige class.

Quoted from laziness.
LS to start usually.
But, I love to experience falling to the darkside.

Makes me feel naughty.
 Vaelastraz
01-09-2006, 2:17 PM
#100
The first time i play Kotor I II and maybe some day III i will always play the game as i think i really am. So in the game i react different from time to time and in Kotor I i end up with beeing a gray jedi nearer to the light side.
After that i play totally Dark and totally Light.
But i always learn certain force powers which i really love like force kill, force lightning (not storm.. i dont like the storm animation) force wave and master speed. IMO it matters how u use your forcepowers...no matter if they are DS or LS.

I enjoy playing DS but not because i want to feel evil but because it is so funny to play DS with all the comments from HK-47. Bioware/obisidan introduced creative ways to be an evil killer ! :thumbsup:
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