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Its time (rant about lack of JA players lately)

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 Duty
01-03-2004, 12:21 PM
#1
To say I told ya so.
An average of 400 players worldwide, raven have managed to turn the sequel of a once thriving game into a barren list of empty servers. GJ Raven!
Now you know, that if you listen to the whining, unskilled people, its not gonna make the game popular. They're whining and unskilled for one, very good reason. They don't play the game on a regular basis. And if you target a game at people who don't play on a regular basis, hey presto, we get a dead game.

They might be 'the mass' according to some people, but where are they? Are they all playing in some huge server somewhere? I don't see them.
The 'minority' who would have played this game, run servers for it, keep it active and allow new players to be attracted to it don't bother playing either.
We get ladder site's JA sections closing. Why? Its a new game. I thought that all the ' NOEZ K!CKS LAMERZ...DOOOL MEE' people that the game was targetted for were a majority? Where is that majority?


So as so many people said when this game was released, it's targetted for an unskilled, undedicated group of nubs. I think someone predicted the closing of ladders, gradual decline of players, closure of clans and the death of the game.
So here it is. The prophecy is approaching. Good Fight.
 Master William
01-03-2004, 12:37 PM
#2
I know what one of the problems is. My friends used to play, but they got bored. In their minds, you could just hack slash in the boring base maps that came with the game. What they never got to experience was the fun you could have with a clan (if you were in it) or the fun with admin mods (emotes, JK2 flipkicks) or perhaps the KOTOR FLIGHT SCHOOL FINAL mappack. Or even the npc spawning. All of my friends who left JA never did that, they just played a bit and stopped there.
 Duty
01-03-2004, 12:58 PM
#3
exactly. Many people said the game was oversimplified, all the inticities removed and replaced with a few useless 'M0V13 L1K3' katas.
Result: Boring game.
 Astrotoy7
01-03-2004, 2:17 PM
#4
hit the nail on the head Duty

JA was fun for about 4 weeks....
now boring is teh perfect description for it.......Im probably in a different boat than most here, though...couldnt care less about MP, more into storyline and fun ! thus KOTOR has been occupyimg my time nicely

MTFBWYA
 MasteR PudsLiG
01-03-2004, 2:51 PM
#5
i scanned in all seeing eye and there was 1185 players worldwide playing jka
 Duty
01-03-2004, 4:38 PM
#6
gj want a badge?
I said average. Thats 24 hours, 7 days a week. It also doesn't include bots.
Sure theres times when hardly anyone plays, but thats true for all games. And when you compare 400 to the average number for other games (I be;ieve 4 months after the release of JK2 the average was 690), its clear that the game's popularity has declined.

As said before, the 'NO KIKERZ MEH' nubs were listened to. The game was simplified to accomodate them. The game is now filled with pointless 'mov13 l!k3' moves that only a complete imbecile would walk into, leaving the best chance for a kill either battling a complete moron, or randomly flailing someone.

This 'mass' that raven adapted the game to accomodate...where is it? If JK2 was dominated by a minority that played competetively, why has JA (a game designed for this 'mass') got fewer players?

Really. All you people who were crying to keep kicks, ptk, gripkicks out of the game because 'L4MERZ (ADM!N B4N TAHT L4M3R!!121)' were literally owning people with them, have a frankly boring, unvaried, random game, with a low player base. Again, GJ Raven and 'I told ya so' :)
 Sam Fisher
01-03-2004, 5:20 PM
#7
Then why don't you actually go to the competitive servers, like the BWN ones? They are very nice, and a lot of very skilled players go there. Me, for example, I go there all the time, try Old Folks Home. And Astrotoy, have you catually tried MP for any amount on time? Have you tried dueling?
 Master William
01-03-2004, 5:26 PM
#8
Your sarcasm is not funny.

hit the nail on the head Duty

JA was fun for about 4 weeks....
now boring is teh perfect description for it.......Im probably in a different boat than most here, though...couldnt care less about MP, more into storyline and fun ! thus KOTOR has been occupyimg my time nicely

MTFBWYA

LOL
 MasteR PudsLiG
01-03-2004, 5:29 PM
#9
Originally posted by Duty
gj want a badge?


please.

oh and i scaned again (another badge for me), some hours later and this time i checked the "no bots" box(i didnt have it checked before), so it wouldnt count bots in the player total, and there was more players than before (1557 players) :)


all badges badges..... are belong to us
 Side
01-03-2004, 6:00 PM
#10
yea and 90% of them are curently rpg'ing
 Bilbo Skywalker
01-03-2004, 6:01 PM
#11
It's a shame that TWl closed the ladder, and the ESL has very low activity too, unfortunately theres just not enough competitive interest. I idle in pickups and have to wait about an hour a time for a pug to start, then wait another 20 mins for 10 ppl to add in.

It's a shame cos I quite enjoyed this game. :(
 Alegis
01-03-2004, 6:11 PM
#12
Though good mods are growing (not admin mods, i mean mods like tmu,cts,asteroids(*drools*)) etc which will change gameplay and offer variety. Thank god for them, only it will take some time for them to come out but they have all my respect

After JA was released I played Siege like mad, played no duels/ffa or ctf and all that, just siege on the servers and i damn loved it..then each match it would be like 3v11 after a while. I was mad and didn't play JA for a long while, then i got the fever again and could play 24/7 on all kinds of servers. I still would be, but ATM i'm in KOTOR (since it's SP i'll be back shortly ^^) damn that game has gotten me into its grip and is simply AMAZING. Ask around, many many here are playing KOTOR atm so after a month or two when we all finished the game 2 times we'll be back (at least I hope 'we')

Unfortunately about the leagues, *we* were about to join some too but it would be so much nicer for more activity around that. If there would be a lot of clan competition in specific leagues it would boost JA activity and perhaps communicaten between clans
 Cosmos Jack
01-03-2004, 7:04 PM
#13
I like the lame katas; though, I have made it a personal rule to never use them unless I accidentally do it. That is very easy to do. Mouse 1, Mouse 2 blah blah.

I always use singles. I like the lame Katas, because I find them easy to defend against and they always leave the player who thinks they're getting an easy kill wide open for attack.

I love the guys that run around with dual sabers spaming that twirling saber move. While everyone else runs from their center. I just do a role stab right into their dumb AS*S. I either kill them or severally wound them. The really dumb people are though's that do the katas in a duel. lol

So in all I understand why people don't like JA. When I first started playing there were nothing, but people doing them lame katas I learned to play around that. I get satisfaction knowing I used skill and timing with basic moves. Against someone who thinks they can kata me or do flying spin roles at me the hole time. They are just annoying and fun to kill.

So you don't like the special moves don's use them.;) They do a great amount of damage to the unsuspecting player, but they are not all powerful.:o
 Syzerian
01-03-2004, 8:38 PM
#14
thus KOTOR has been occupyimg my time nicely
yep
i play KOTOR all day untill i can find a good siege or duel server that isnt empty which is usually 97% of the time:o
 Lestat819
01-03-2004, 9:11 PM
#15
Katas have pre-defined moves
that makes it predictable...
 Duty
01-03-2004, 9:41 PM
#16
I like special moves just fine, but as you said, they leave you wide open, and only an idiot would fall for them.

They removed a vast array of intricities and replaced them with moves that are 'simple to pull off' and look 'movie like'. This was obviously done for the unskilled masses. However, these unskilled masses have deserted the game.
Whats left of these (for want of a better word) noobs is a handfull of rpg'ers who like to reenact Luke skywalker's heroic battle against an evil guy aswell as fighting with the cute teddy bears against the rebel scum. Joy.

btw sidenote: MasteR PudsLiG do you have any idea what an average is?

As these useless 'special moves' (although i see nothing special about them) have replaced many other moves, the game on any serious level has become a 'run, mash and bump' game. Don't try denying it. I and others see no point in dedicating and practicing a game, that any old nub can 'own' at in 15 minutes. Honestly, I can kill old JK2 vets in JA on a whim. Maybe I'm just talented.

Sure mods are nice. The rpg stuff, xmod etc. But they can never revive a game that in its sale condition is fundamentally flawed. Mods can't revive a community, only stratify and orthodox an existing one.

I revel in it. I told ya so.
 Radd
01-03-2004, 10:18 PM
#17
Still, a decent mod could make the game a lot more fun. Look at some of the gameplay mods for Jedi Outcast, like the saber mod that made saber battles more skill oriented than hack and slash, and the merc mod which added tons of features.

Hopefully Raven will rethink things for the next Jedi Knight installment. Personally, I'm hoping they emphasize the 'customizable character' aspects of the game. Releasing it with more player model pieces to choose from, more sabers, customizable taunts, and perhaps even customizable move sets. I also like the idea of vehicles, though the spaceships are nearly unusable as things are. Hopefully they'll fix that, and if they do then possibly implement some flight elements into the next game. While I'm daydreaming, I'd also like to see either something much better storywise, or at the very least a break from the post-OT/Kyle oriented stories and maybe set something during the movies (but not directly related to anything we see in them, I've had enough trench runs against the Death Star thankyouverymuch), or during/before the prequels, like KotOR or during the Clone Wars (very much looking forward to that conversion).
 Duty
01-03-2004, 10:33 PM
#18
woa woa woa. This isn't a i love star warz, Raven do this this! thread.

Its an 'I told ya so' thread. A chance for all those who said 'a game designed for nubs would fail', to gloat.

Thnx :p
 Radd
01-03-2004, 11:36 PM
#19
Heh. I understand you just wanted to say 'I told you so.', but contructive criticism usually does more good. Would you rather see Raven's staff run away crying, or fix what you think is wrong and make a better game?
 Agen
01-03-2004, 11:50 PM
#20
An average of 400 players worldwide

No, I've never ever seen the number drop below 900(that was new years eve night :p)
At this moment there's 1512 playing (no bots) - THAT is what it's usually like, 'usually' being similar to 'average' i'm pretty sure there's no where near an average of 400 players :rolleyes:

why has JA (a game designed for this 'mass') got fewer players?

It doesn't, go figure.

then possibly implement some flight elements into the next game.

Meh, this is a jk game, unlikely :p

Then why don't you actually go to the competitive servers, like the BWN ones?
Yep, try and be a reg on competitive servers.

Also, please note their are ladders for duelling (nf&ff) and XMOD ctf at proving grounds (provinggounds.com), also clans can play at BSC

Its an 'I told ya so' thread. A chance for all those who said 'a game designed for nubs would fail', to gloat.
You judge a game by wrong numbers?
 Jase_Morden
01-03-2004, 11:53 PM
#21
Originally posted by Radd
Releasing it with more player model pieces to choose from, more sabers, customizable taunts, and perhaps even customizable move sets.

Ok, not to be a complete smart*ss, but I am, and I just had to say this(even if it's my first post), but making Customizable Taunts and Move Sets would take heaps of animation on every playable model in the game, think about it.
 Cosmos Jack
01-03-2004, 11:57 PM
#22
Originally posted by Duty
I like special moves just fine, but as you said, they leave you wide open, and only an idiot would fall for them. I don't think they are fine I think they are the lamest. In most games a special move is hard to pull off in JKA. It's mouse 1 and mouse 2 and there ya go.

I played a map tonight and it was full of noobs doing nothing, but katas on top of katas and on top of each other. It was the dumbest thing. There was the guys that did nothing but flying roles into groups of people, the guys that just jump in with dual sabers doing the twirl thing, and I still beat them without the katas. I was hoping people would catch on, but they just continued to try to kata me.

I still made it to the top and ended the game without using katas. I was kind of lame myself I guess? I just waited tell someone did a kata then stabbed them. I made almost all my kills doing that it was pathetic. I don't remimber in JK2 people jumping into groups of people doing cheap moves to make easy kills. Oh wait a minute there were no easy cheap moves in JK2.

If they did make another patch they should get rid of the katas they just cheapen the game play. I fined full force weapons FFAs tend to have few people doing katas they are to busy trying not to get pushed of a ledge or dogging rockets. lol
 lllKyNeSlll
01-03-2004, 11:58 PM
#23
Originally posted by Bilbo Skywalker
It's a shame that TWl closed the ladder, and the ESL has very low activity too, unfortunately theres just not enough competitive interest. I idle in pickups and have to wait about an hour a time for a pug to start, then wait another 20 mins for 10 ppl to add in.

It's a shame cos I quite enjoyed this game. :(

tis the saddest moment of jk3
 Radd
01-04-2004, 12:06 AM
#24
When I said 'customizable taunts and move sets' I mean have a variety of pre-set taunts and moves to choose from. Not taunts the players themselves create, that would take a degree in computer animation to pull off. I doubt the casual JK player wants to spend a few years learning computer animation just to make Luke Skywalker flip off Yoda.

Think of it this way, to make customizable characters at all it would take tons of model work for Raven. They did it anyways. How is addeding in a few animations to choose from for a taunt any different?

How about decent moves to choose from?Like a block and kick combo, or a twirl or something, so that different players play differently and have different move sets they prefer to use, instead of wasting time animating something like the katas?
 gotcha8903
01-04-2004, 12:12 AM
#25
the game has failed in at least one area (id say more, but...). it is played by two totally different styles of players. honor and the way the manual says to play. i think there needs to be another game in there somewhere, but i guess thats just me.

btw, KOTOR is also taking up a lot of the JA players, about half of my clan is playing it instead. but after everyone gets bored of the sp, im sure more people while be on.
 Agen
01-04-2004, 12:25 AM
#26
Originally posted by Radd

Like a block and kick combo, or a twirl or something, so that different players play differently
Blocks will never work online (well in the near future), i'm sorry to say

I don't think they are fine I think they are the lamest. In most games a special move is hard to pull off in JKA. It's mouse 1 and mouse 2 and there ya go.
Lunge them to death, very very simple and you usually get more kills than them.

If they did make another patch they should get rid of the katas they just cheapen the game play. I fined full force weapons FFAs tend to have few people doing katas they are to busy trying not to get pushed of a ledge or dogging rockets. lol
Adapt or you'll suck at the game and get frustrated.
 Cosmos Jack
01-04-2004, 3:35 AM
#27
Originally posted by Agen_Terminator
Lunge them to death, very very simple and you usually get more kills than them. I role stab it's faster and I already stated that I do get more kills than them.
Originally posted by Agen_Terminator
Adapt or you'll suck at the game and get frustrated. I already did and I'm pretty decent at the game. Just because I have come to terms with the stupid movies doesn't mean I can't b!tch about them.;)
 Cosmos Jack
01-04-2004, 3:35 AM
#28
:o
 AxVegetA
01-04-2004, 5:25 AM
#29
Yeah its true not too many people are playing JA, i think it is because of the maps, compared to JO maps, this ones bore you after some minutes.
 MasteR PudsLiG
01-04-2004, 9:27 AM
#30
Duty i know perfectly well what an average is.

Sometimes average means normal(which is not 400 players), other times it its a number in the middle but the usual average, which some are familiar with, called the arithmetic mean, is calculated by summing all the values of something and then dividing by the number of values you used
 Prime
01-05-2004, 3:22 PM
#31
Originally posted by gotcha8903
btw, KOTOR is also taking up a lot of the JA players, about half of my clan is playing it instead. but after everyone gets bored of the sp, im sure more people while be on. That's for sure. It has taken most of my game-playing time of late. At first the KOTOR board at lucasforums was really quite. But the activity has steadily picked up.

As for JA, hasn't this issue been discussed to death long ago. I know it is an "I told you so" thread, but is it really worth bring up again? In any event, like the majority of games, I suppose that most people playing are in SP anyway. :)

Duty, why have you stuck around so long if the game/situation makes you so upset? Why not just go to another game if JA makes you unhappy? If the game is dead for you, why not move on?

Personally, I haven't seen too much of a drop in players, but then again, I spend almost all my JA MP time on the Chop Shop servers. They always seem to be pretty busy.
 Duty
01-05-2004, 4:27 PM
#32
I've not stuck around.
I've came to visit a community and found there wasn't one.

And really, this 'I'ver sine fousands players' bs is just that. bs. Where are they all?
The duel servers are empty. Theres 4 european duel servers. I remember when I first joined JK2, there were hundreds of duel servers, all packed with queues of 5 and 6. Now theres 3 euro servers that are predominantly empty...
Ctf servers. Where? Theres 4 I can see. 3 are always empty. All 4 run xmod...saying something about baseja maybe?
Powerduel. ROFL. Thats as dead as the dodo.
Seige. Bugged to hell, but theres some players. Servers lag due to unresolved box problems (after 6 months). Filled with nubs that run around with the sceptar screeching 'I EM EVIL; SIFF LURD'
ffa. LOL. ffa. 70% are rpg noobs and the other 30% are HONORZ junkies who get off by talking about how many honorz points they won.

thnx.
 MasteR PudsLiG
01-05-2004, 5:10 PM
#33
Its not "BS" at all, maybe our time zones are different, when i scan the normal thing to see is 1000+, why would i want to lie about somthing so stupid
 Master William
01-05-2004, 5:16 PM
#34
People that played JK2 and got used to it won't feel different about JA, JA could have been a freaking expansion for all I know.
 Datheus
01-05-2004, 5:20 PM
#35
Try not be to so condescending, chief. This has nothing to do with Raven listening to bad players. If Jedi Academy is such a catostrophy, I ask you, why didn't everyone go back to Jedi Outcast?

Only great games stand the test of time. Jedi Outcast was good, but it wasn't great. It has its problems, like most games. It just wasn't that captivating. Jedi Academy was only a mod of Jedi Outcast. Anything that would cause Jedi Academy to have a smaller player base is because people are sick of the game. Not because the game play is shot to hell.

And there are three types of averages: mean, mode and median. Obviously, if your data and calculations do not reflect the real world implications, your data and calculations are wrong.

You predicted nothing.
 Side
01-05-2004, 5:27 PM
#36
who care if he didnt predicted?
it still thye truth

now go back to /amsiting next to your e-jedi girlfriend
 Datheus
01-05-2004, 5:44 PM
#37
That's exactly what I'm talking about.

You people are nothing more than what you proclaim to hate. You sit there and complain, all the while acting condescending and superior because your whining is about a different subject.

For your information: I never roleplay. When I come across a roleplaying server, I don't log off and come crying to a forum. I disconnect and go to a different server.

All I'm asking is that Duty (and other like-minded people) stop acting like as if they could code a better game.

Though I'm asking you to go play in a four-lane highway during rush hour, just as a personal favor to every person in the entire world.
 lllKyNeSlll
01-05-2004, 7:28 PM
#38
DUty, who are you, alias?
 Side
01-05-2004, 9:44 PM
#39
yea so we should lock thread like those huh?

i dont find a forum with topic such as

"can my computer handdle jka"
"texture problem"
"LOL DARFT FARTER"
etc
etc
etc

intersting
in fact the honorz debate and such are quite entertaining

and btw hes stating fact about how JKA comunity is going

This might sound dump but i think more topic like those are needed...for multiple reason that im too lazy to type cuz im busy laming power d00lz server
 InfErnO
01-05-2004, 10:17 PM
#40
Originally posted by Datheus

All I'm asking is that Duty (and other like-minded people) stop acting like as if they could code a better game.

What's that got to do with coding? Coding is the realization of a concept. You don't need coding skills to design a map, weapon placement, weapon properties, etc. It's the modified q3 engine btw. the major part (the real complicated ****) of coding was accomplished by idsoftware.
And for JA, it's a simple modification of their JO code. Some code for the new sabers and cr. That's it. Oh, yes and some nerfing, to piss of the remains of the competitive community.

Duty is right. I couldn't find an euro game with ase. A lot of servers have become pretty empty. That's cause the game sucks and bores. Anyway it doesn't matter if raven tries to fix it or not.
The game is dead imo.
 Agen
01-05-2004, 10:43 PM
#41
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I role stab it's faster and I already stated that I do get more kills than them.
Well why do you want rid of them if they are balanced (you don't use them and you still win)?

Just because I have come to terms with the stupid movies doesn't mean I can't b!tch about them.
But they're not stupid, I've duelled many people and killed them with katas.. they're surprising since they are neglected(except in ffa)

Also in ffa, I'm sure you'll find that the better players do both, use the katas and counter them, are you trying to make the game more shallow?

Yeah its true not too many people are playing JA, i think it is because of the maps, compared to JO maps, this ones bore you after some minutes.
There are loads playing JA, have a look in ASE, also, the maps imo and lots of other people's are 10 times better than JK2's excuse for maps.
Tatooine or that daft raven star map?
Imperial control room or temple? :rolleyes:
That sounded harsh so don't take it too seriously

and btw hes stating fact about how JKA comunity is going
No, fact is solid truth, it is false that there are 400 average players so.... dat's bs.

I've came to visit a community and found there wasn't one.
I think you'll find that there are plenty of people here, considering the amount of posts that have been contributed and the amount of people playing the game.

I remember when I first joined JK2, there were hundreds of duel servers
There were over 600 duel servers when ja came out, so what? No game's server count has gone up from the 2nd month(the peak should be at the very beginning or aroudn this time) to the 4th month in it's life with the exception of UT,CS and BF1942 and a few other games (NOT MANY). It doesn't really mean anything.

all packed with queues of 5 and 6
Well those people were pretty daft, It sucks alot to wait in a queue with more than 4 people unless you know them. (not that i sit in the queue alot tbh ;))

Side,
Why are you here, you clearly despise the game and have no intention of contributing anything. You just sit and tell us how the game sucks and the community is dead.

i dont find a forum with topic such as

"can my computer handdle jka"
"texture problem"
"LOL DARFT FARTER"
etc
etc
etc

intersting
Then why are you here?

This might sound dump but i think more topic like those are needed...for multiple reason that im too lazy to type cuz im busy laming power d00lz server
So you can make smartarse comments all day which have no real use? What happened to seeing what other people's opinions were on certain aspects and seeing how it could be improved. Now it's take everything as a whole and say it's sh*te.

The duel servers are empty. Theres 4 european duel servers.
No, there's 50 euro duels I can see (prob much more). the american servers happen to be more populated though. :p

http://members.lycos.co.uk/pterminator/ibsyounot.jpg)

Wow! look, you're wrong - again! it's even filtered with no bots. :rolleyes:

There's also 14 basejk ctf servers (32 in total)
7 xmod servers and the others are mostly daft admin mods.

I can see 46 Seige servers with quite alot of players

Only 11 power duel servers but what do you expect with a badly thought-out gametype(why not let us choose out amount of players in a duelish way instead of tellingu s to paly tffa??)
 Side
01-05-2004, 10:53 PM
#42
you could argue all day about percentage of active server(400 server or close to,with 1200 player,400) but the fact is

IT DEATH it already freakin death
of course there will be new people buying the game but their going to get bores like many people,or get /amlamed by any abusive admin


(sorry for this one but i dont quote people anymore)

It entertaining that why im here,i like to read those kind of stuff and i like to throw my 2cent

i rarely post in topic such as those i named before
 Datheus
01-05-2004, 11:07 PM
#43
Originally posted by Side
yea so we should lock thread like those huh?

i dont find a forum with topic such as

"can my computer handdle jka"
"texture problem"
"LOL DARFT FARTER"
etc
etc
etc

intersting
in fact the honorz debate and such are quite entertaining

This might sound dump but i think more topic like those are needed...for multiple reason that im too lazy to type cuz im busy laming power d00lz server

You're not debating. You're being condescending. Telling me to /amsit next to my e-jedi girl friend has nothing to do with debate.

So what if people role play? Go to a different server. I avoid clan servers because I know that is common there. So intead of acting like everyone who roles players is a ****ing leper, just go to a different server.

You think any game is different? I gave up on Unreal Tournament because every server was "One shot kill, sniper rifle, tiny players". Some people like that. Apparently many people do. So you know what? Instead of whining like a little bitch, while pointing the finger at others in a complete act of doublethink, I WENT AWAY. Please do the same.

Like I said, my problem isn't a discussion about game play. But don't mock people as if they should be removed from the face of the earth just because they don't feel the same way as you.

And I know I'm doing the same to you, but you know, sometimes the ends justify the means. I don't know what makes you tick, but I hope it's a time bomb.
 Master William
01-05-2004, 11:46 PM
#44
JA is not dead, you sound so silly saying that :p
 Side
01-06-2004, 12:13 AM
#45
Who said i join "rpg" server first?
ok....maybe i join rpg server but im just having fun raising chaos in them,hell i think ive been laming too much lately(specialy Warcraft Uprising power duel)

and what i mean by death is
Competition is really...really low


now back on topic

we usualy play on ms3 server(CTF Server) me and some clanmate and other CTF s/o clan

It filled with newbies now(sorry for the theme but i dont see how i can call those)
They got no idea how to play they just keep slashing around killing people that doesnt have the flag or are siting somewhere it kinda sad really,i even tried to teach them how to pull throw kick or grip kick and such but for some reason their shy....what i mean is they dont answer or they just reply "that freaking lame".....see that dumb seriously who care if it lame the question would be is it effective?
Yea it is and it way better than just flailing around or kata'ing 100 time and pray that he hit something one day

No **** it boring people doesnt want to learn from other cuz of what again?

THE FREAKING RPG MENTALITY

NO ONE IS A REAL JEDI FFS it a freaking game chek out other game they use any cheap(effective) tactic or strat to win

why cant it work the same for JKA?
 Darth Kaan
01-06-2004, 12:34 AM
#46
Originally posted by Side
Who said i join "rpg" server first?
ok....maybe i join rpg server but im just having fun raising chaos in them,hell i think ive been laming too much lately(specialy Warcraft Uprising power duel)

and what i mean by death is
Competition is really...really low


now back on topic

we usualy play on ms3 server(CTF Server) me and some clanmate and other CTF s/o clan

It filled with newbies now(sorry for the theme but i dont see how i can call those)
They got no idea how to play they just keep slashing around killing people that doesnt have the flag or are siting somewhere it kinda sad really,i even tried to teach them how to pull throw kick or grip kick and such but for some reason their shy....what i mean is they dont answer or they just reply "that freaking lame".....see that dumb seriously who care if it lame the question would be is it effective?
Yea it is and it way better than just flailing around or kata'ing 100 time and pray that he hit something one day

No **** it boring people doesnt want to learn from other cuz of what again?

THE FREAKING RPG MENTALITY

NO ONE IS A REAL JEDI FFS it a freaking game chek out other game they use any cheap(effective) tactic or strat to win

why cant it work the same for JKA?

Plenty of people ARE playing the game and having fun, whether you agree or like it or not. Try playing more and posting less utter bull****.

0-o
 Prime
01-06-2004, 12:40 AM
#47
Originally posted by Duty
I've not stuck around.
I've came to visit a community and found there wasn't one. Or at least not one that you like ;)

Originally posted by Duty
And really, this 'I'ver sine fousands players' bs is just that. bs. Where are they all? Well, using the All Seeing Eye, from here in Canada at about 8:45pm local time I see:

FFA: 83 servers with 1123 players
Duel: 50 servers with 341 players
Seige: 20 servers with 271 players
Power Duel: 7 servers with 63 players
Team FFA: 3 servers with 32 players
CTF: 6 servers with 102 players

That is with empty/bots/password servers filtered out.

I'm not saying that you are wrong, but I see many players, and at least enough to find a game whenever I want to play. And I mean a game, not RPGing, chatting, or whatever. I can't stand that stuff myself.

I find the Chop Shop servers the best, IMO.

Originally posted by Duty
The duel servers are empty. From what my game can see, this isn't the case.

Originally posted by Duty
Ctf servers. Where? Gone for the most part. Competative players didn't like it, and I don't think that CTF was ever that popular with the casual set. At least, even in JO there didn't seem to be many servers that I could see. Who knows. I don't play it, so I don't particularly care.

Originally posted by Duty
Powerduel. ROFL. Thats as dead as the dodo. A stillbirth really. Of all the gametypes that have come down the pipe in the JK games, FFA and Duel have always been the most popular. Probably always will be. It seems the majority of the community resides there.

Originally posted by Duty
Servers lag due to unresolved box problems (after 6 months). The game hasn't been out 6 months. Just teasing... :)

Originally posted by Duty
Filled with nubs that run around with the sceptar screeching 'I EM EVIL; SIFF LURD'
ffa. LOL. ffa. 70% are rpg noobs and the other 30% are HONORZ junkies who get off by talking about how many honorz points they won. I agree that there is far to much of that sort of thing. But I eventually find a good game. Now that I know what servers I like, I never encounter other players like that. :)
 Side
01-06-2004, 12:50 AM
#48
ive been playing jedi knight series game a **** load of time

and where did i said it wasnt fun?
im having fun playin ctf with my clanmates or playing versus other clan

and im having a lot more fun laming power duel server,ffa server

and please dont deny,too many people are taking this game WAY TOO SERIOUSLY

i ever saw people having a battle with people set with dark force versus light force and constanly spam "THE LIGHT WILL PREVAIL THE DARKNESS" and some douche bag admin was using empower saying HE WAS THE DARTH SOMEONE
jesus christ that just ridiculous

and i was there pull throwing, backstabing w/ protect on or rage on and racking kill and got banned

what for?
cuz i used a "non-rpg" style
so how should i play?
run around and constanly flail the saber?

there tons of server like and there tons of people gettin on these server and getting addicted to RPG mentality
 Rumor
01-06-2004, 6:55 AM
#49
so fun to watch newbies and scrubs argue with someone who knows what they're talking about, even though the person hardly speaks english.
 Rumor
01-06-2004, 7:03 AM
#50
also i would like to point out to you uber leet ase player stats finders, that when you get player stats for the games, they do NOT filter out bots, *even if you do check the no bots option.
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