what really bites is when you run by someone with their saber off and then they take you out from bhind , everybody has lamed at some point, some do it more then others ahhh......whats the point(fires one up) its time fo da empire ta strike back....!@ grab yo Spliff:confused: glad this isnt a STWG forum
Here's a quick lesson for you (From the harsh "real world" of online gaming).
In the spirit of Joseph Campbell:
Symbol: Meaning:
Text box over head I am defenseless, strike me down with all of your hatred, and your journey towards the darkside will be complete!
Saber off I can feel your anger, the hate is swelling in you now... take your Jedi weapon... use it. I am unarmed...
I personally would love to have a rule of saber down = peace. Unfortunately this is the real world and it is abused beyond relief.
Though I promote a "kill all" on my server , I don't actually like killing people unarmed all the time. It's almost like a question of ethics. :eek:
That's why you never let your guard down while playing. And when they have their saber down, and are inching their way towards you, run. Or back up.:D
I usually leave those who are out of the way with the chat symbol up alone. But everyone else is fair game as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah, i don't slaughter people who are typing but people with saber off (unless against the server rules or is a duel) i attack without question.
Basically, saber down = peace boils down to one thing:
Ego.
Too many people whining that they got killed while chatting in the middle of the game. It's amazing, especially because it makes so LITTLE sense. You don't play pro football and expect everyone to stop playing because you were chatting with your friend. You don't expect someone to not fire you because you were not doing job, but instead 'chatting'.
Further more, since this is a game in which your death has little effect on anything, it really does just boil down to ego.
Generally, the ones that whine about being killed while chatting are the ones that have too much ego... they can't stand losing. They can't just 'accept' that someone took a cheap shot and killed them, they have to make sure EVERYONE on the server knows that they are 'da Bomb' at JA. Everyone on the server is fully aware that 'so and so' is chat killing, so when he has a high score... who cares? He's illegitimate. Leave it at that.
I let people chat kill me all the time. They say sorry, and I say back "who cares?" It's a pub, I wasn't talking about anything important, it's a not a team game where the points will effect the outcome of anything... and most importantly, no one agreed that we should stop playing the game to read something that is probably irrelevant.
Saber down = peace is for people with inflated heads. I don't seek out to destroy people with chat boxes up, but when when I've locked on to someone, they run around a corner, and then throw up that box right as i'm appearing.... well... too bad. Death to you. Get over it.
Something to say to a person who whines about chat killing, straight from the movies:
Vader: You are unwise to lower your defenses!
I prefer "<bad word> off".
I prefer the words made famous by Camelotvault.
Cry more, n00b.
From my Jedi Outcast Kill Tracker: (Which I only had for 4 months)
I have been slain 2120 times.
Thank goodness it's just a game!
Personally, I don't do it, I would much rather have someone fight back, but hey if you need to frag me while I'm afk, or typing, or watching TV, by all means, go right ahead. It's not real life, its a video game.
But believe me, if I am in a team match or ctf, you will not get the opportunity to kill me with my saber off. :)
I agree with the Doc, it's ego. Some people take their entertainment quite seriously. I find it all quite amusing.
Saber down=peace......pfft yeah right like that'll even happen. Yeah it's cheap, it's lame, whatever. You people who cry after being chatkilled are complete airheads.
I'm in a ffa, everyones running around. I'm about to fight a guy, and a box pops over his head. Pfft yeah...he thinks he's going to be safe just by putting a box over his head? Sorry.....ain't gonna happen.
Besides, I'm sure all you whiney brats who complain about chatkilling have chatkilled yourself at least 3 times in the past. Not even counting the times you were mad while playing, for whatever reason. I'm willing to bet money on it.
And if I'm ever chatting in there, it's in an isolated spot where no one else is around. Maybe you whiners who complain about chatkillers should do that too if you HAVE to talk in game. Not just see a guy, put a box over your guys head, and expect him to just run by you. Hah.
i thought it was the other way around no wonder i keep getting kicked
I personally think its a stupid rule. A dark jedi is not going to honor your saber down...he is going to pull a vader
"You are a fool to lower your defenses" (or whatever the exact words were) *saber throw*
What kinda movie would we have had if vader said "I am honorable, raise your saber and we shall fight. Opps, wait, I forgot to bow"
what, are you joking? I use a deactivated saber or the meditate emote to lure people in all the time..just makes it sweeter when I suddenly leap into the air slashing their throats!
Also, another reason I don't follow that crap is because people exploited/bended the rules involving the chat box. Basically, a person would raise his chat box, wait for his force to regen, then let loose a drain attack.
Seriously, you honor nubs fall for anything.
I agree rad. For bows ill usually let the person bow and not do anything.
When typing is concerned I give no quarter. If you are typing at the start of the round ill give you 5-10 seconds to finish, beyondthat im killing you and you can finishy our speech while others are not waiting (note, I play duel mode)
The people who constantly talk whiel fighting just die, I dont' care if they want to cry or claim im cheating...im not patient enough to see a good opening only to let it go because the person's chat bubble came up.
it doesn't bother me a bit to get killed while I'm typing and/or changing settings...
it also doesn't bother me to saberthrow into someone's head when they're bowing. You can cancel the emote by moving or attacking, so it's no excuse.
What bothers me is when my opponent shows me how badly I truly suck at the game by beating me in honest combat! :p
I can respect not attacking someone with their chatbox up (and I'll apologize if I do by accident -- why the hell did Raven make the chatbox so hard to see?) because they may legitimately be working in the console or with their settings (and thus unable to see fully), but if someone is standing around with their saber down then they're just some moron who forgot he's in the middle of a battlefield.
It's the same idea as walking into the middle of a melee in the Colliseum at Rome and dropping your weapon and expecting not to be a victim of Roman bloodlust. Sorry, not going to happen.
The exception to that rule, at least for me, is when someone is bowing. But, be wary, as bowing should be done AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MATCH ONLY. After that, you're simply lowering your guard. Mr. Miyagi drilled this into Daniel-san, and a lot of martial arts instructors will do the same with their own students (I know I do): it is correct, honorable and laudable to bow before your opponent before and after the match, but always, always keep your eyes on them.
If you want to go AFK, hit ESC and go take your piss. Better yet, wait until you get killed and then don't respawn until you've done what you have to do.
I totally agree with the doc on this one.
If you care so much about dieing in a game that's point scoring revolves around dieing, you have too big of an ego. And when it says "Your name was sabered by His name" You must let everybody know that your chatbox was up or that your saber was down and that he was a lamer and did not 'earn' his kill 'honorfully'. Saber down = peace...? Saber down = free kill in my books. Saber down = someone who obviously doesn't know that your saber is your only means of defense, and putting it down is inviting death. You put your saber down, you put your chat box up, you get killed... face it. No need to whine about it. Just hit the Attack button, respawn, and continue playing. No harm done. Cry me a river, build me a bridge, and get over it.
I run around with my saber down all the time, tho...it doesn't mean peace..it just means I want to be harder to pick out at a distance...besides, I have the saber key bound to ctrl, so I can hit that OR attack to block an incoming hit...it's not rocket science. :rolleyes:
Indeed. Especially with this low saber damage... If you're being attacked... dont just stand there looking like a moron.
are we to expect a flood of tears in the coming weeks reviewing old material
Yeah... Better start building Noah's Ark again.
The only 'chatting' that I tolerate is when I'm on a server with friends - and we're actually passing comments between each other (camaraderie), instead of spouting useless nonsense. I won't cut down a friend who is talking to me, because that's discourteous, in my view.
Anywhere else...it's open season. ;P
i used to follow the server "rules" cause i thought it was a common practice, but after reading these posts and similar forums i have decided to return the mob and shoot anything. Does ne1 have a list of servers where anything goes and i wont be kicked for playing the game?
I've taken to bowing AFTER I've killed somebody, rather than before... quit satisfying. ; )
the golden days of JA are almost over already. I already see FFA servers that are 'for duelling only' and full force duel servers which are full of 'NO FORCE YOU LAMAR' people.
ah the lawlessness of the first week or so of release... snif I'll miss you.
On second thought this is really nailing in my resolution to get a game server and call it 'The Full Force Lamers Paradise.'
I sure can't seem to find one around me thats not up in an unacceptable ping.
=P
Agreed. I'm bothered more by the dorks that cry "lamer!!" than the lamers themselves. I especially can't stand people who walk around with their saber down in the MIDDLE OF A HUGE FIGHT, and then complain when someone kills them. Give me a break. If you're off in a corner somewhere with your saber down, I'll try to avoid you. If you're standing right next to me while I'm trying to take on 3 other guys with their sabers out, I'm not going to go out of my way to avoid hitting you.
And what I dislike even more than that are people who come on a server and literally stand there with their sabers off THE WHOLE TIME. It's like, why are you even playing this game? They stand there with saber off, saying absolutely nothing, until someone kills them and then it's LAMER !! LAME !! DARTH MIKAL LAMER!! LAMED ME HE LAMED HE'S A LAMER LAMER LAME LAME LAMER DARTH MICHAEL LAMED!!! LAMER!! Like the god damn lamer police or something. Look, you have zero kills, I have more than enough legitimate kills to keep me near the top of the scoreboard, wtf difference does it make if I accidentally kill you? The only purpose it servers is to possibly get me kicked because you're crying so loudly.
The asskickings begin now.
I've already been kicked from servers, had people cry about force, cry lamer, etc. The **** from JKII will not be happening again. Time to kick the virtual IRC image out of their heads.
For me, sabre down /= peace. Hell, i try and kill people with my sabre off, just to spite them :)
However- sabre off and chat symbol = no killin'. Ive always had a thing about that.
Just playing a couple of weeks ago at a lan (JK2) i planted a turret around a corner, hoping to get a jedi who was following me, but it started to attack a guy changing his settings. I actually killed my own sentry and subsequently got killed by the jedi because i didnt want to kill this guy while he was 'away'.
I dont play these games for a fragfest, thats what quake is for. Jedi Knight's abide by a strict code, and a sense of honor.
(insert eyeroll here)
Oh wait, so that's what :rolleyes: is for.
Originally posted by Matariel
I dont play these games for a fragfest, thats what quake is for. Jedi Knight's abide by a strict code, and a sense of honor.
A strict code, huh? Where is this code written down, I might add. The funny thing is when I bought Jedi Knight II and Jedi Academy I was looking at a game that was Quake III ala Star Wars. Not Star Wars ala Chat Engine. This game's sole purpose is a fragfest, not people walking around ffa_bespin with their sabers down saying "You, honor me." Did Raven or LucasArts have this in mind when making the game? I think not.
I keep my books from games that I buy (just a habit). In Jedi Academy it describes FFA as "...players score points by eliminating other players, and no one is considered an ally..." Scoring points does not involve "Standing with your saber down and looking honorful towards your fellow Jedi friend". I feel sorry for the 'real' newbies, the ones who just buy the game looking for a good time. They get into the game and start to kill their opponent who has his saber down for some reason. He's only doing what he's supposed to do in order to win... and then when he kills him he gets called a 'lamer' and is kicked out of the server. This happens again and again until he chucks the game into the trash. Good job guys! This 'honor code' came into effect when somebody was getting owned by someone else so he put his saber down and made it a law that saber down = peace. When does this happen? In any game if you put your weapon down does it mean peace? No. If you put your saber down against bots do they attack you instead of bowing with you? Hell yes. In Star Wars does Darth Vader go "Ahh... you are very honorful. I will wait until you raise your lightsaber and then I shall bow..." when Luke turns off his saber.... cough... I think not. Saber down = peace? Ha! Only if you aren't skilled enough to handle the onslaught. Spectator mode = peace. Yes. You don't want to fight? You don't want to play the game... just stand around and do nothing? Go to spectator and let the real players play.
the real question is why you're still bothering to even reply to these posts
Originally posted by GreenSmoke
the real question is why you're still bothering to even reply to these posts
boredom, Halo won't be in stores here until Thursday so I've got time to kill...
i suggest you stop picking on my retarded friends before i shoot u w/my bb gun
Hey Storm, nice new pic. Looks painful. =)
Originally posted by flabajaba2213
Hey Storm, nice new pic. Looks painful. =)
Hey thanks. It was kind of a shot in a million. ;)
In case you're interested, you can find the full image here (
http://www.robertbowen.co.uk/Scarface.jpg).
Someone once posted about a complaint about a strange server with freakish girl admins who would walk everywhere and would give people the "evileye" when they did something wrong. So I was looking throught the server list and I found a cool looking server, and joined.
:eek:
There they were! The freaky girl admins! Crouched down watching people fight, and I spawned right behind them once I joined! Sabers down and all! Well I just couldent stand the temtation because the banned a fellow former so I typed "g_dismember 100" and "cg_dismember 3". I still couldn't believe it.
I changed to yellow stance and swung.
Muah ha ha ha ha!
They both fell headless and started calling me a lamer in german.
Hehehehehe.
So you all know I hate saber down=peace.
Muah ha ha ha ha!
:fett:
Originally posted by Kurgan
I've taken to bowing AFTER I've killed somebody, rather than before... quit satisfying. ; )
Try gloat. It leaves you very vulnerable. gf Raven!