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Ray Jones

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Posted in: my real crappy drawing
  Ray Jones
06-23-2008, 4:38 PM
#7
sean boi has a fetish for oral elephant butt secks...  [Read More]
Posted in: my real crappy drawing
  Ray Jones
06-22-2008, 2:59 PM
#3
kinda funni at least...  [Read More]
Posted in: Bush admits explosives were used in 9/11
  Ray Jones
06-26-2008, 3:28 PM
#207
That was possibly... the weirdest... analogy I have ever heard you TRY to explain. What the hell did that have to do with anything? I'm not trying to be a jerk, but.....:confused:In post #203 the questions "What's pulverizing the floors above t...  [Read More]
Posted in: Bush admits explosives were used in 9/11
  Ray Jones
06-26-2008, 10:58 AM
#204
Hey kids, what to do something crazy? Let's see..why don't we try something that you even can do at home right now? OK. Take two eggs, put one on the ground and hold the other one above it at, what do I know, half a meter distance. Now let the on...  [Read More]
Posted in: Bush admits explosives were used in 9/11
  Ray Jones
06-25-2008, 11:27 AM
#202
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/RayJones/lucasforums/wtc.gif http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/RayJones/lucasforums/wtc-1.png This shows how the building's top part above the crashed plane "telescopes" into the lower part. It is...  [Read More]
Posted in: Bush admits explosives were used in 9/11
  Ray Jones
06-24-2008, 8:11 PM
#195
Both quotes/excerpts in #192 are from Achilles' source he linked to in #182. So is also the second one (the one he left out while quoting from #192 so happily in #194) which states that 17 seconds is a reasonable estimate for the time frame of both...  [Read More]
Posted in: Bush admits explosives were used in 9/11
  Ray Jones
06-24-2008, 4:18 PM
#192
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/proofs/speed.html -- In a vacuum, a block of wood (or lead) would take 9.2 seconds to fall from the tower's roof. In the air a block of wood, say ten inches on a side, might take 50 percent longer than in a v...  [Read More]
Posted in: Bush admits explosives were used in 9/11
  Ray Jones
06-23-2008, 6:16 PM
#179
Links for 9/11 Research (http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/home) "In this paper, we examine the claims of Dr. David Ray Griffin regarding the NIST investigation into the World Trade Center disasters, and find those claims to be unfounded. All 18...  [Read More]
Posted in: Bush admits explosives were used in 9/11
  Ray Jones
06-23-2008, 6:02 AM
#172
If nothing else, we've been able to establish that when you say you're finished, you don't really mean it. I said I am done laying out my points, which is true, since I can't remember extending my argumentation in any way. I can't remember saying I'l...  [Read More]
Posted in: Bush admits explosives were used in 9/11
  Ray Jones
06-22-2008, 6:20 PM
#170
I need to provide evidence for skepticism?And yet you do so eagerly pull out evidence supporting your scepticism in any religious debate I have seen you take part in. Are you trying to have it both ways? Burden of proof, Ray. The official story is...  [Read More]
Posted in: Bush admits explosives were used in 9/11
  Ray Jones
06-22-2008, 6:07 AM
#167
None of the sources that you or Ray have put up as evidence can answer this very simple question: How did the buildings come down at nearly free-fall speed?You haven't either. Even less, all you have done is proposing some idea, without delivering at...  [Read More]
Posted in: Bush admits explosives were used in 9/11
  Ray Jones
06-20-2008, 6:13 PM
#161
Now, is it just me or does the bottom of the WTC actually appear to give out without the top of the tower actually collapsing? (keep an eye on the movement of the antennae at the top in the smoke).What I say. Achilles, I'm done laying out my poin...  [Read More]
Posted in: Bush admits explosives were used in 9/11
  Ray Jones
06-20-2008, 5:29 PM
#158
If the upper portions of the building remained intact, I might think that you had a point. However since they did not, I'm still left to wonder how you are getting your conclusions.Huh? They don't have to stay intact. Well of course Ray. The buildi...  [Read More]
Posted in: Bush admits explosives were used in 9/11
  Ray Jones
06-20-2008, 4:50 PM
#156
Except that even the photos you sourced yourself in post #122 don't reflect this. "Collapse B" happened first.No, they happen simultaneously. So we just ignore the fact that the buildings were 1350/1360 feet tall why?Physics. The buildin...  [Read More]
Posted in: Bush admits explosives were used in 9/11
  Ray Jones
06-20-2008, 9:09 AM
#153
What do you mean "separately"? There was one continuous collapse. The collapse started, continued, then ended.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/RayJones/lucasforums/collapse.png collapse A The part below the crashed plane collapses to...  [Read More]
Posted in: Bush admits explosives were used in 9/11
  Ray Jones
06-16-2008, 6:13 PM
#136
Considering that the upper floors collapsed too, I'm having a great deal of difficulty understanding why you think this analogy is applicable. Even the time-lapse frames from the site you provided a few posts ago show this.Regarding the physical mode...  [Read More]
Posted in: Bush admits explosives were used in 9/11
  Ray Jones
06-16-2008, 9:31 AM
#128
have you everluretortured the thread Jae? Actually, did. The buildings did not magically lose a floor (or several) when the planes struck. Therefore the buildings were still 1350 and 1360 feet when they started collapsing.That is correct. Quite ir...  [Read More]
Posted in: Bush admits explosives were used in 9/11
  Ray Jones
06-14-2008, 7:10 PM
#126
I'm tired. So long then, and -- enjoy your read (http://www.civil.northwestern.edu/people/bazant/PDFs/Papers/466.pdf)....  [Read More]
Posted in: Bush admits explosives were used in 9/11
  Ray Jones
06-14-2008, 6:49 PM
#124
Sorry, Ray, I didn't see anything here that helped me understand how the building did not fall in less than the times I've provided (~10 seconds)Huh? The point is that the height you are using for your free ware tool is simply false. You assume that...  [Read More]
Posted in: Bush admits explosives were used in 9/11
  Ray Jones
06-14-2008, 6:11 PM
#122
So please, as I've been asking for several posts now, please tell me what happened to the resistance. Where did it go?OK, since you ask so eager for it: It disappeared in your false interpretation of facts and erroneous calculation. Why? How? Here w...  [Read More]
Posted in: Bush admits explosives were used in 9/11
  Ray Jones
06-14-2008, 3:55 PM
#119
I'm inclined to clarify what you mean by "they" and "bombed", but I think this is a sufficiently accurate synopsis of the argument.Ui. That's absolutely correct. Since the discussion is physics, I am left with no choice but to d...  [Read More]
Posted in: Bush admits explosives were used in 9/11
  Ray Jones
06-14-2008, 8:46 AM
#117
Unless there isn't something to fall on. Like if the something that was supposed to be there had suddenly been removed, as if by explosives.So, they bombed away all floors below the plane so the top would crush down unstopped? I'll take that as &qu...  [Read More]
Posted in: Bush admits explosives were used in 9/11
  Ray Jones
06-14-2008, 3:50 AM
#115
So how does this rule out free fall?How is it free fall when there's constantly something you fall on? Do you have something more substantial?When you going to provide something more substantial to support the claim I doubt first... The NIST source...  [Read More]
Posted in: The Ruin a Wish Foundation
  Ray Jones
06-24-2008, 9:54 AM
#217
ingenious...  [Read More]
Posted in: The Ruin a Wish Foundation
  Ray Jones
06-24-2008, 9:21 AM
#213
thine wish is hereby granted oh wisest of all wish-men...  [Read More]
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