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Mando model edit

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 Master_Payne
12-05-2002, 12:59 PM
#51
Now that is "legal" to edit the model, could someone just re-weight him to have a helmet version that works correctly, it may use the same skin, it will only need a skin map for the helmet.
I,m not a modeler and I just want to know if it's possible...
 El Sitherino
12-05-2002, 5:45 PM
#52
i edited this from a mando model that i ask permission to edit the model already came with a helmet so the whole helmet thing is pointless. thank you that is all bye
 Matt-Liell
12-05-2002, 5:47 PM
#53
just so u know insanesith i sent the file to Ducan (is it the one who made the subulba model? I HOPE SO CAUSE THATS WHO GOT IT!) anyway i havent heard back but i thought id let u know!
 El Sitherino
12-05-2002, 5:55 PM
#54
yeah thats him.
 Matt-Liell
12-05-2002, 6:20 PM
#55
k ill keep u updated man!:D
 El Sitherino
12-05-2002, 8:57 PM
#56
alright cool.
 Duncan_10158
12-06-2002, 9:50 PM
#57
I was offline (or offworld?) the last few days, so i am geting the model from Matt-Liell Arroblade at the moment. i probably will get on the work tomorrow. i had not jet the chance to take a look at it, but i am very curios.
 Matt-Liell
12-06-2002, 10:06 PM
#58
again, thanks for helping!:D
 Duncan_10158
12-07-2002, 9:13 AM
#59
I took a look at the jango model you sent me, Matt-Liell Arroblade and i see a problem.

the skinmaps(UVW) are not done yet. i mean there are skinmaps but they are not done like they should be for making a proper skin. a lot of faces lie across another make it the same skin.

the other thing are usage of skins. you are using one skin for every body part, instad of using one skin for several body parts. this makes the the hole file larger then is have to be.


I can put the model in game as it is now, nut the problems above cant be changed anymore. on the other hand, if you redo the skinmaps you have to redo all the skins, but you could spare skins using same skin for several body parts.

the question is: do you think we should redo the skinmaps?
 El Sitherino
12-07-2002, 7:13 PM
#60
hi guys sorry ive been gone for a while ive been busy with school and girls.... anyways im not sure what we should do if you want we can get it in game now and you can send it to me and we can see what we should do we could maybe cut it in parts like release the skin seperately maybe i dont know like ive said before this is my first time going through this kinda thing but whatever yall decide would be ok with me.
 Matt-Liell
12-07-2002, 8:33 PM
#61
get it ingame is what i suggest, couple questions though, can we use any of the skins i made? would i have to redo it totally? get it in game for now anyways!
 El Sitherino
12-08-2002, 5:37 PM
#62
yeah duncan go ahead and put it in game so we can atleast test it out and ill see if i can get the size down. if not we can go back to the drawing board. but we'll atleast have it or we could put it up for broadbanders or whatever i dont know.
 Duncan_10158
12-08-2002, 6:19 PM
#63
ok, can bring the jango model in game like it is now. but to make it clear, then you cant changed the skinmap anymore. it would need a new compilaton with assimilate.

Matt-Liell Arroblade, the skin you made is the best you could bring on the skinmaps. i can hardly belive that it is even posible. it must have been a hell of a work! but if we decide to redo the skinmaps then the skins have to be redone too. doing the skinmaps for this complicated model is a fulltimejob for about a week, and not very funny. i could do it but i have some other things in my to-do queue. and the the skinning again.

this helmetless jango is a very good model, realy worth to bring it out. the problem is you made the skins befor the skinmaps are finished what normaly is imposible, but you somehow made it.
i gone make it as it is now, but to be honest, you will see, its far from what i would call finished.
 El Sitherino
12-08-2002, 6:24 PM
#64
alright so whats this mean duncan?(oh what yall think of the new avatar).anyways thanks again guys for helpin me with this.
 Matt-Liell
12-08-2002, 6:24 PM
#65
i have no problem with redoing the skins just curious! go ahead and put it in game and ill see what i can do after that!
 Hellfire Jedi
12-08-2002, 6:25 PM
#66
Make sure the saber is held right!!!
Also guys u could release a non-correct skinmap version thingy then later on release a redone skinmap thingy :)

Hellfire
 Duncan_10158
12-09-2002, 1:40 PM
#67
after a lot of work i finaly brought the jango model in game, but some parts are missing. head, hips, torso, arms and legs are invisible, just missing. in Modview they are there like they should be. i have no idea whats wrong. the model_default.skin file is correct, there is no .surf file wich could make it invisible. the skins are also in the correct format. i have no idea. does somebody know this problem?
 Hellfire Jedi
12-09-2002, 2:53 PM
#68
ibelive i know whas wrong....
That normally happens to me when a skin is messsed up.

Helfire
 El Sitherino
12-09-2002, 5:01 PM
#69
alright so exactly how do you make a surf file again cuz i knew once but my memory kind of fails me on this.(but what do yall think of my avatar)
 Matt-Liell
12-09-2002, 5:11 PM
#70
no comment on avatar, find it weird! (well theres a comment, no offence of course!:D) and just edit an existing .surf with notepad!
 El Sitherino
12-09-2002, 5:21 PM
#71
yeah my avatars kind of a inside joke. well like what do i put in the surf file cuz i dont know the surface names?
 Matt-Liell
12-09-2002, 5:41 PM
#72
depends what u want to take off.
 El Sitherino
12-09-2002, 6:24 PM
#73
i dont wanna take off anything.
 Matt-Liell
12-09-2002, 6:33 PM
#74
then what do u want a .surf file for?
 El Sitherino
12-09-2002, 6:40 PM
#75
dont know it was mentioned that it might solve the problem but whatever.
 Matt-Liell
12-09-2002, 6:42 PM
#76
no he was saying that since there was no .surf file its odd that there are parts missing from the model!:D
 El Sitherino
12-09-2002, 6:44 PM
#77
oh sorry im kind of like spacing out a bit.
 Matt-Liell
12-09-2002, 6:46 PM
#78
np!:D :p
 Duncan_10158
12-09-2002, 7:17 PM
#79
the problem of missing skins is solved, the skins had wrong sizes. now its competly in game. i am sending it now to Matt-Liell Arroblade. i havent your email Insanesith, Matt can pass it to you.
take a look at it, then we can dicuss it.
 Hellfire Jedi
12-09-2002, 7:31 PM
#80
The saber held correctly?
 Matt-Liell
12-09-2002, 8:04 PM
#81
should i start skinning it now insanesith or do u want this file first?

and sorry i lost your email insanesith can i have it again?
 El Sitherino
12-09-2002, 9:50 PM
#82
send it to me now and my email is SirFobos2021@yahoo.com and you can go ahead and make the skin and then send it to me when its finished.
 Duncan_10158
12-10-2002, 5:09 PM
#83
Matt-Liell Arroblade, now it makes no sense to make new skins. the skinmaps are not made jet, first somebody needs to put that together. now you could hardly make better skins.
and befor you can bring in the new skinmaps i have to compile it again with assimilate. that is the problem i was talking about.

if you want new skins, you definitly need to make skinmaps.
 El Sitherino
12-10-2002, 7:01 PM
#84
ok uhm i put some screenies up on my site you can see them here (http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/jofaf/lst?.dir=/JANGO+HELMETLESS+BETA+SHOTS&.src=gr&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/) ok and duncan i think the problem with the legs popping out and the chest plates popping out is that there are too many things weighted to one vert or at least thats what im told might be the problem but go ahead and check the photos and we can see what we can do and matt i posted a pic on for just one part on the head where we need to paint it black.ok thanks for all the help guys i couldnt have done it without you.peace.
 Matt-Liell
12-10-2002, 8:32 PM
#85
ill fix up the skins the best i can sound good? ya the skinmaps werent that good im afraid well we have a choice:

1. Duncan could possibly make new skinmaps and i could rekins it (it may take a long time)

2. Ill fix up the skin as best i can send u the file and we release it like that, what is your choice isanesith and Duncan?
 Hellfire Jedi
12-10-2002, 8:37 PM
#86
HI GUYS MY NAME IS HELLFIRE JEDI AND I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU THAT I HAVE ASKED A COUPLE TIMES IN THE PAST PLEASE ANSWER IT THANKS!!! ;)
Sorry if that sems rude just never could get u guys attention. Is the saber held correctly?

Hellfire
 Matt-Liell
12-10-2002, 8:41 PM
#87
99.9% sure man! cause they r all new tags and that was the problem before!;) (read my new rank and tell me what u think!:p)
 Hellfire Jedi
12-10-2002, 8:48 PM
#88
ou a mod now Matt? coolio nice rank :rolleyes: im j/k You guys did great
And for a non-skinned model i must say Matt or Yadu you did ****ing good looks a little sketchy on the face but its GOOD.
Never thought i would say this but can u guys like let me beta test it out? If you do thanks!!! blazoor@aol.com my email
I will post pics at
www.geocities.com/mikeman02341/jango)
THat is if u guys decide to send me it. I fully agree on any decision u make i just perfer a yes ;) Also i will handle sounds if needed Corto Maltes sounds sound good to u guys?
 Matt-Liell
12-10-2002, 8:51 PM
#89
no not a mod i just hate spammers!:mad: :p we'll see if u can beta test and about sounds i think we can use them from my jango skin, it has all the sounds and three movie taunts!

so isanesith we have two things to decide!

1. New skin or not
2. Let him beta test it?
 Hellfire Jedi
12-10-2002, 8:53 PM
#90
Dude.....
I wannna tell you something REVOLUTIONARY! ;) MOre than one version :rolleyes: You could release one version of that skin and another of a better Redone one.

Hellfire
 Matt-Liell
12-10-2002, 8:58 PM
#91
Interesting thought but we'll have to wait for insanesith to post before i can start anything, be patient!
 El Sitherino
12-10-2002, 8:58 PM
#92
new skin and yeah let him beta it. he cool.
 Hellfire Jedi
12-10-2002, 8:59 PM
#93
Vice Versa. Both u guys welcome to my budz list
 Matt-Liell
12-10-2002, 9:00 PM
#94
alright when i finish the skin ill let him beta test, now do u mean new skinmaps and redo the whole thing or touch up skin? if u want new skinmaps u have to ask duncan to make em!
 El Sitherino
12-10-2002, 9:01 PM
#95
either or both.
 Hellfire Jedi
12-10-2002, 9:03 PM
#96
Could i get the version thats done now?

Hellfire
 El Sitherino
12-10-2002, 9:08 PM
#97
you can get it here (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JOFaF/files/) but it will only be up for a few minutes ok so noone else gets it cuz me email aint workin well.
 Hellfire Jedi
12-10-2002, 9:11 PM
#98
Ok clear to delete it now i got it
 El Sitherino
12-10-2002, 9:12 PM
#99
ok well ill be off the forums for while now so peace ill check back here around 10 or so thats 2 hours.
 Hellfire Jedi
12-10-2002, 9:13 PM
#100
/model jango
Can you change it to /model fett
So ti wont interfere with other jango modelz
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