can we still have setforceall 3 in this mod.

I don't know if they can disable it, but even so.....

If you intend to cheat, might as well let you cheat how you want.

At least that's my point of view.

You may be hitting your head a lot - I personally may map parts of my lvl with low sky if you know what I mean.

still going to cheat anyway.

we now have the source code, so it's very likely that force powers will not even exist, therefore, there is no way to cheat in this fashion

sent a email to lucasarts they say if you take out the cheat codes it will make the game crash. plus they said you need the console window to play game.

that doesn't mean you can cheat by summoning a game feature that doesn't exist . . .

can we still have the lightsaber and force.( because people want to have force.) and god and notarget.

remember we are trying to make the game like the original - Kyle didn't have a lightsaber or force powers at this point in his life . . . .

well, i would see it all as a matter of difficulty. if it is really easy to take out these things (lightsaber, force powers), then if the team wants to then they will. (personally i would like a lightsaber and stuff, more dismemberment action ;) ) if it means that the team has to like recode it or something i doubt it will be done

I think the team should focus on getting the mod done without Force powers, lightsabers, making it true to Dark Forces, and then if they feel like it add them into the game.

Awe damn. I was thinking this would be a JK: DF2 mod. I've never even HEARD of just Dark Forces.
What would be the point in that game? First person star wars action without the Force and Lightsabers? Bah!

Well, if you ever decide to make a JK: DF2 mod, let me know.

bah nothing, Dark Forces rocks . . . 8^P

Here's the link to the team that is doing Jedi Knight . . . http://www16.brinkster.com/primesghost/)

Yes - Darkforces was my 1st star wars game.
I agree that JK and JO are cool but they just dont feel the same as when I was playing DF for the 1st time.

Dark Forces wasn't my 1st StarWars Game, but I agree with Alex about JK and JO just not feeling the same. Plus somehow DF spooked me at times when a enemy would show up around a corner right in my face. I liked that :D

exactly TIMMAY - the newer games cut into FMVs so often now that nothing in game truly jumps out at you anymore(this is why I like resident evil games). Ill hope the Dark troopers 1st appearance just jump out at the player.

Talking about Dark Troopers and Scary on the Ice Level when you go thru what i think are air ducts and all you can hear is the Phase 1 DarkTrooper walking around, that was good, and then when he showed up in your face :D

Yeah - Im working on Robotics(ice lvl)
we will have to let the trooper make some noise before hes visible runing at you.

yeh, if its not possible to make the actual trooper make the sound what about a background sound that is started when the player reaches point x ?

Yes that also is possible (music queing into the trooper but we prob. will want both) Though they will make the sounds much like a stormtrooper says something when he spots you.

I think if it is possible the team should A. Make the lightsabre and force powers available after you have completed the original game B. Release a small add on after the game is made where you can use force powers and a lightsabre.

maybe we can make a seperate menu option or something that allows you to choose which game style you want to play. It might take two sets of maps/map scripts though to make it work correct, which sounds problematic at first . . . I'll keep it on the back burner.

Listen, guys.

We can't promise anything more than a Dark Forces Mod or this thing is never going to get beyond a beta release. Let's concentrate on the primary goal of releaseing the DF mod by Fall 2003, and if we finish early, then we can try to add other things.

Believe me, I've seen too many TCs/Mods/projects get flushed down the toilet because nobody would just stick to the primary goal. Instead they'd be off trying to add other things that were really not needed at all...

People are just gonna have to wait and see what we come out with. If it's just the DF mod and the 14 levels, than that's much better than anyone else has done. I think people will be happy for the way it is, rather than being disappointed by the fact that there's no "extra features" to it.

So that's my two cents, there. Hope I wasn't out of line.:)

Anyone else agree?

Yes- I agree
stick to the basics then MAYBE release extra stuff later

i think the force and lightsaber should be still in the cheats has a option for you to have. who give a stuff what the mod makers think. they need to know what the people want. 99 out of a 100 say they want saber and force still in dark force mod. all people are saying is KEEP THEM IN.:mad:

maybe as a reward for beating the game on on different settings releases different cheats - sabers, force,etc

jedi outcast, just let the team do what they want to, dont pester them. read antizacs post.

Aslong as I get to take on those Dark Troopers with my beloved Dark Trooper gun I don't care about Lightsabres or Force Powers remember it's called Dark Forces not Jedi Knight if you want Force Powers go play Outcast or DF 2 again

Jedi Outcast, take a hint for once.

I, for one, say screw the lightsaber and force. This is Dark Forces. This is when Kyle was a straightforward merc, and didn't know squat about the Force. He knows absolutely nothing of the sort about his father dying nor about Jerec killing him yet.

That means:

1.) NO LIGHTSABER

2.) NO FORCE

Just straight forwards shooting fest. I would rather take back the old Dark Forces weapons then this new stuff in Jedi Outcast. Bring me back my Concussion Launcher, my D. Trooper Assault Cannon, and my Fusion Cutter. I want this TC to be as faithful to the origional as possible, and seeing force/lightsabers is as far as faithful as you can get.

Will you be able to cheat to get the lightsaber and force powers in the Secret Base demo?

Originally posted by JEDI OUTCAST
who give a stuff what the mod makers think. they need to know what the people want.

this isn't the MOD you are looking for . . . you can go about your business . . . move along . . .

you *may* be able to cheat in the demo since the code is straight from JO in every way. still it's pretty pointless because it's such a small and easy map . .

Also JEDI OUTCAST if you don't like the Dark Forces Mod without Force Powers or a Lightsaber stop moaning about it, the solution is simple don't download it no one is forcing you to download it also no one is forcing Darth Linux and his team to make it so be greatful for what you'te getting you annoying brat.

sorry all i just had a bad day. i dont care about lightsaber or force powers just can not wait for the mod to come out.:D