I just can't find any info of balrogs being maiar
I've been browsing through the Silmarillion but still I found nothing
Well...if u say so...I guess they are maiar then:)
wicked, but his cloak still needs that hint of green. and his belt is a light brown. the pics i sent you should show that.
Looking great! I can't wait to see shaders on that puppy.
i dont know if the face and beard are finished but they need some work, specifically in the dark black lines around the eyes, the face looks nothing like Ian McKellan and the beard is too dark, it needs to have less shadow and more hair in it. might just be the shape of it tho, i dont know, something just is off on it.
You really really need to change the color of his hat... It is blue, yes, but not that blue. You need more gray in the hat... tone it down. His garments match the hat very well. I suggest cloning his hat and garment colors and textures from some well lit picture.
The beard is very angled at the bottom. I sugest fading it very carefully to the color and texture of his robe. Try to keep as much of the beard as possible though.
His robes look to dark now and they look very smooth make them look like wool. Once again I would use cloning as my main tool.
You might also try cloning his face/ beard but I dont know...
I really do appriciate your hard work because it is a hard task and I have been waiting for gandalf and other lotr charaters for a long time...
Originally posted by short_ent
The beard is very angled at the bottom. I sugest fading it very carefully to the color and texture of his robe. Try to keep as much of the beard as possible though.
Hey bud. . .I was going to say much the same thing. . .. :)
Also, he could use just about 1/4 inch more skin under his lower lip - before the hair starts to grow. . .usually the hair in that area is a bit more sparse in men (AND women too, I'd hope :) )
Also, I think the crease between his eyes doesn't need to be quite so pronounced (too dark), (or perhaps add a couple more?). Under his eyes look to much like he went a little heavy on the movie makeup - needs more natural skin colour. Right now, they kind of look like they're puffy - like just one "bag" under his eye. Instead, you might try to add more creases within that one bag (Sorry, I'm not a skinner, I don't know HOW this will look - just a thought)
Oh yeah. . . Like I posted earlier, the upper corners of his moustache can pretty much cover the sides of his mouth - sort of angled down from nose to jaw
Also, I think his hairline can be more "receding" .. .right now he's only got about an inch of "forehead" :)
Ok, I agree with all of the points mentioned. The beard will be alpha'd out with a shader in-game.
I totally redid the face, as I was not happy with it. Haven't done anything else except recolor the hat a bit.
http://home.quicknet.nl/qn/prive/j.hagmeijer/gandalfthegrey5.jpg)
wow big difference, i love it!
Definitely much better. You might consider lightening up the grey in the beard... I don't think it was that dark grey. Same deal with the eyebrows.
-Anakin
Thanks guys,
Madjai, are you gonna enlarge the nose? Should not make a difference as long as you don't add any polies. The uvw maps should stay the same.
yea ill enlarge the nose. ill send it to ya as soon as i do.
What nose where am i?I can kick your ass in MOHAA countless times
Marth, plz stop making useless posts to raise your post count (which we all know your doing) :rolleyes:
yea seriously :D
oo im a stormtrooper, Hey you there!
Haha Madjai. The only advise I can offer is to lessen the darkness on the beard, so that it blends more, instead of contrasting. but not too much, or it will look more cartoonish than what you guys would want. But overall, its really coming together.
Originally posted by Frumpus
Hmm, what chapter/page in The Silmarillion did you get that dragon info from, VH? I've read it once, and going over it - and Unfinished Tales - again; it appeared to me that we never really found out the beginnings of the dragons (Glaurung being the father of them all),
That info too can be found in the tolkein encyclopedia.
Originally posted by Marth
What nose where am i?
Marth,
You can't make anyone believe that you honestly clicked on a topic without looking at it, then posted a response without knowing which thread you were in. If you want to raise your post count, do it the right way, not by acting stupid.
Grafox,
It's getting better and better with each new revision. The bags under his eyes still look a little too pronounced though... perhaps consider not making them ring entirely underneath his eyes? The eyebrows also look a little dark still. The beard is much better though.
-Anakin
The beard needs some work, it doesnt really look like hair, i would look at some of the hair techniques used at polycount and encorporate them into the model, and the clothes looks a tad too tight on the model.
the skin is looking decent, the face needs a little bit of aging and the clothes are a tad too blue/grey, gandalf wore grey/brown clothes in the movie if i remember correctly.
Everything is really looking good, but I do have one question.
Why does some areas of the clothing, especially the hat, look abnormally "glowy"? It looks like it is reflecting too much light.
Just wondering.
But, keep up the good work. It's looking great! :)
Thanks for the comments they will all be taken into consideration.
Madjai, do you have a new glm version for me? Cuz then I could take an ingame screenshot with beard shader, now he's all clipped.
Also, do you think you could make your Gandalf Staff Jedimod compatible? Cuz then I could make some nice screens of him with his staff.
yay forums are up
ill send them to you asap
great! *Checks email inbox every second*
Looks really nice, but I think that the hat is wrong colored it should be gray.
In the books he has a blue hat, Darth. In the movies they made it a greyish blue, but the hat colour Grafox has is accurate (to the movies, anyway).
-Anakin
That last pic, Grafox - those robes are just perfect, they have the right amount of greeness to them and now perhaps just add some 'wear' to them, perhaps a tad greyer.
Cheers :cool:
Here's an ingame screenshot. Just a quickie. Madjai, I couldn't get the staff to work properly :(
http://home.quicknet.nl/qn/prive/j.hagmeijer/gandalf_ingame.jpg)
Also, I need some good refference of his boots.
His eyes look weird in game. Instead of looking straight ahead, the right eye seems to be looking slightly right, and the left eye slightly left.
Also the nose seems too thin... this may just be a trick of the light, though.
-Anakin
I can't fix the nose size, it's a modeling thing :)
There's something about him that just doesn't make me say "Gandalf!"... can't pin point it really...
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No updates as of yet, been very bussy.
Does anyone have any ref pics of his boots?
I think he just wears simple leather boots. Think, what medieval hardleather boots looked like.
Sorry for the lack of updates on this one. Expect one soon
Originally posted by Grafox
Sorry for the lack of updates on this one. Expect one soon Ё
hurray! :rhett:
alrighty Grafox has sent me the final textures, still a couple of things to work out though.
but what im in need of now is sounds for the guy, so if anyone has any good Gandalf sounds for anything (getting hurt, jumping, choking, dying, etc etc) please send them to me or post em here, thanks.
Originally posted by Madjai
alrighty Grafox has sent me the final textures, still a couple of things to work out though.
but what im in need of now is sounds for the guy, so if anyone has any good Gandalf sounds for anything (getting hurt, jumping, choking, dying, etc etc) please send them to me or post em here, thanks.
How about making his "falling death" sound the part in the movie where he's hanging off the broken bridge and he says, "Fly, you fools!"
Just a suggestion. I'll see if I can get it from the DVD if you want it.
-Anakin
hey hes all ready to go, i just need sounds, to which i can find none.
Originally posted by Madjai
hey hes all ready to go, i just need sounds, to which i can find none.
Madjai, I just started working on a sound pack for you. Would like to know a few things though :
1) Do you want the pain sounds to be grunts, or him saying something (I prefer grunts)?
2) How many taunts do you want?
3) Is there anything specific you wanted?
yea i prefer grunts
i usually only use 1 taunt, but send them all so i have some choices
and there isnt anything specific i want, just the general sounds for a player character for Gandalf.
Looks good... would you mind if I stae my thoughts?
Originally posted by Yarah Dahile
Looks good... would you mind if I stae my thoughts?
I don't know if you're talking to me or Madjai, but you don't need anyone's permission to state your thoughts, opinions, crits, etc on the forum - just do it! :)
But do try to be polite. :D
well theres not much point now because the model and skin are done.
Maybe they wanted to throw their 2 cents in on the sounds?
i hope this model is good cuz i luv gandalf
*KICK* :mad: Updates etc...!?
Be patient, I think Grafox is doing great with time :)
Thank you, but I aaaaaaaaaaaaal finished, and I have been finished with the skin for some time now.
It's all up to madjai from now.