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Covenat Elite Finished:D

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 agentj64
08-01-2002, 2:09 PM
#1
http://server49.hypermart.net/agentj64/cov.jpg)

Alex Wright is letting us use his Master Chief (the Counterstrike model) i'll have a pic of that soon.

and next up is this guy:
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/gallery/stills/still_19.jpg)

;)

Should take me a week to model

I DEARLY need a skinner for this, I don't mind making one but it defintely isn't my ilk to skin.

If you want, I can you send you the UVW maps just ask or post in here, and the 3ds of it

tx all:0
 Sebulba-Dug
08-01-2002, 2:12 PM
#2
I always wanted to be a grunt.... *sniff*
 agentj64
08-01-2002, 2:18 PM
#3
Yeah hehe:) tons of people have asked so I have to make it:d
I hope Darth Xhan can make the sounds I've emailed and PMed him
 MOS-ENE
08-01-2002, 2:28 PM
#4
102.36 Natiioon Liivvvvvveee(just joking)!!!!!
Good job , and i mean it J!!!!
you've out done you're self with this one.
Keep up the good work




P.S.: I bet my model + bot + skin +.... will be also great , so cu in the wonderful world of jk2 !!!!!!!!!!;)
 agentj64
08-01-2002, 2:29 PM
#5
I love that botmaker you sent me, hopefully you could help me in making the bot:d Making it not the cheasy, aim attack, but better
 TEX360
08-01-2002, 2:45 PM
#6
You know i like it, its really awesome, i want to make a skin for it would be cool, hope i get some time soon. Nice job. You should have the different skins like in halo.
 PIo Koon
08-01-2002, 2:56 PM
#7
yep..i taught him everything he knows =OD

lol j/k hes alot better at modeling than i am

good to see our work is paying off Agent =OD...now for the grunt..what a boring stupid creature.........................

*throws a plasma grenade on one* =OD

"ahhhh!!! get it off get it off!!! not again!!!" BOOM!!!!

=OD
 agentj64
08-01-2002, 2:57 PM
#8
Rofl I love that:p
Someone in here get out a mic and record that sound byte hehe:) that could be his taunt..
 PIo Koon
08-01-2002, 2:59 PM
#9
his taunt!?!?!?!?

rofl his taunt is his screaming in horror!?!?!?!

.......i like it!!! =OD lol...i can download some from the Halo Truth and Reconciliation site

"ill BITE your knee-caps-off!!!!!!!!!!"
 acdcfanbill
08-01-2002, 2:59 PM
#10
this model really whips the llama's patute... :D
 PIo Koon
08-01-2002, 3:11 PM
#11
yep yep..thats right..guns player models and teaser pics for each ;)

http://www16.brinkster.com/bnkinc/EliteFinal.jpg)
http://www16.brinkster.com/bnkinc/MasterCFinal2.jpg)


http://www.renegademods.info/users/SpartnII/AssaultRifleBeta2.jpg)
http://www.renegademods.info/users/SpartnII/PlasmaRifleBeta.jpg)


enjoy =OD

also the plasma rifle does have the tubes on the end and a little bit edited so don't woryr..im just to lazy to set up that design take a pic and upload =OP
 agentj64
08-01-2002, 3:18 PM
#12
God man nice weapons:d good stuff hehe
 MacD
08-01-2002, 3:30 PM
#13
Looks like the Tru7h has come here, too :)
 agentj64
08-01-2002, 4:06 PM
#14
;)
 PIo Koon
08-01-2002, 6:35 PM
#15
welp, The Covenant Elite is reaching its final hours...me and agent should be beta testing him in game tonight and tomorrow..hopefully a skin very soon...and then a download =O)
 menemeth
08-01-2002, 8:31 PM
#16
Praise be to you guys! You really should make a Halo TC, altough Bungie may try to shut you down... anyway great model, Im glad to see you more or less fixed the legs, cant wait to see this baby skinned, and the grunt will be awesome too
BTW did you chose taunts yet?
 PIo Koon
08-01-2002, 9:52 PM
#17
nope..no taunts yet..going to though

and yes i can't wait to see the skin either =O)

and a Halo TC?....

go get C&C Renegade...im heading up a Halo TC for that game..and the models agent j is making are going to be in it

but it will be edited for copyright..but still sweet
 PIo Koon
08-01-2002, 9:58 PM
#18
man...if u think this thing is awesome as a model...ur going to be VERY pleased with it in game....

http://www.renegademods.info/users/SpartnII/EliteInGame.jpg)
 PIo Koon
08-02-2002, 1:01 AM
#19
over 25 views since i posted the in game pic and no comments...how dare u all =OP ;)
 dreddsnott
08-02-2002, 2:28 AM
#20
Wow! That guy is uglier than my mother!

Great job!
 Sam
08-02-2002, 2:38 AM
#21
hey are you going to do master cheif
and the taunt could be them doing a battle cry like when you shoot them in halo they raise there arms and yell at you
 crazy_elmo
08-02-2002, 3:32 AM
#22
Well, seems like Raven can hire some new modelers, the work i've seen so far by people on this forum is ten times better.

This is just once again proof of it.

The model is looking absolutly superb. Keep up the good work (again)
 PIo Koon
08-02-2002, 10:43 AM
#23
thankx Elmo..u replied to my trebor and elite post =OD even though Agent did over 75% of the work on the elite which i will admit =OP) good to know u like it

$am...read...=OP

yes we are doing master chief...go look at his pic =OP
 agentj64
08-02-2002, 2:31 PM
#24
w00t!

Yes there's some errors, the holding error is going to be fixed..like now:)

But I have a question for you all

Should he hold his lightsaber down? it's actually kinda fricken awesome;) The damage etc works well and all just inverted, and blocking is also the same (the arm moves farther to block)..its actually quite fricken cool, what do you all think??




http://server49.hypermart.net/agentj64/shot0000.jpg)
http://server49.hypermart.net/agentj64/shot0006.jpg)
http://server49.hypermart.net/agentj64/shot0002.jpg)
http://server49.hypermart.net/agentj64/shot0005.jpg)
 agentj64
08-02-2002, 4:45 PM
#25
I've fixed most everything include some cap errors and shoulder deformations

Everythign deforms
the only problem is the arms, on extreme cases the arms go through the upper armor, which is really pissing me off, but i have no real way of changing that:\ I could try some things but..

Nonetheless CovenantElite/P|o Koon please get online asap i need your help with it

Oh this remains: should I

A) use the blade from HALO (model it..) and make it his lightsaber
B) use the regular lightsaber upside down
C) just use the regular sabers:p
 Wes Marrakesh
08-02-2002, 5:02 PM
#26
model his arm blade. Lancers are way cooler than normal elites (lancers is my term for blade-wielding elites)
 adillon
08-02-2002, 5:12 PM
#27
here's my 2 cents on the saber options, in order of preference (w/ criticisms):

1) the regular lightsaber upside it would be *BLEEP* awesome. i know there are sw characters who do use the saber upside down, so this could be cool for other people to use. however, it would seem that certain moves wouldn't work if the saber's flipped ... dfa, light stance lunge, medium finisher, etc. i'd say GO FOR IT just as long as it wouldn't make using it difficult (i.e. attacking, blocking).

2) the blade from HALO would work for the obvious reason that the covenant elite are in HALO and it would look more "natural." however, i'm not familiar with HALO at all, so i don't know what the blade looks like. and at the same time, wouldn't there need to be some kind of mod so that he'd actually use it?

3) the regular lightsaber held normally would obviously fit into the game well ... everybody would be using them. this would be the opposite of #2 above ... would it look "right" if a covenant elite were wielding a lightsaber? i dunno.

whatever way you choose, it's YOUR model, you do what you want. the model looks incredible ... can't wait to see it skinned.

keep up the great work! :D
 agentj64
08-02-2002, 6:40 PM
#28
Well all worked well, he stabs down in red DFA, the lunge is fine, back stab (strangely) backstabs..it works fine believe it or not
the problem is guns however, the guns are err...upsidedown;p

http://halo.bungie.org/screenshots/hbocommander/commander.lg.jpg)

This is a (rather large) pic

http://halo.bungie.org/screenshots/hbocommander/commander.jpg)
is a much smaller one, but you can see the saber 'model'

in a sense i can do it easily, just like the ninjasword hilt, but it wouldnt
A) be useful if the saber was off, even tho shader wise etc i could make the glow and all, it still would have no use if it was glowing and all, until the saber was actually turned on (then again ppl rarely turn it off)
B) the saber wouldn't do as much damage (its an instant kill in HALO)
C) the saber is big, but it would act just on the regular physics of a beam now the big funky thing


nonetheless :)


I still cannot work out the arm through the arm issue

if I make the shoulder blades on the sides of the neck move, then they will clip the neck horribly and that solves the arm problem

if I dont and just the arm and the edges of armor that touches the arm, then in extreme cases the arm bleeds through..

its a give or take, but playing it isnt that bad

My next problem is sounds and I've been kind of dumb not contacting Darth_xhan as much as I'd like, i rarely see him for some reason sigh:|

But sounds would be very useful, and Jedimod 1.2 will have multiple taunts (:)..so that isn't a problem either, and client side scaling as well!..

I've said too much

g'day
 Darth Xhan
08-02-2002, 8:13 PM
#29
Why no you guys send me model

:mad: :p

AgentJ, I sent you an email? Didn't you get it? :/

The sounds will be done by next week. I'm test recording tomorrow, both in game and myself in "EliteSpeak"

Fall/Long Death: AIEEEEEEeeeee!

ShortDeath: AAOOOOHH!

Duel: Your Death is the will of the Gods ><.

TauntA: Go! Go! Go!

TauntB: Hahahahahhha!

Taunt C: I got your "lightsaber...
1
Taunt D: errrRRRAAAHG ><

Fall Impact: Oooh.

Light Damage: Urrargh!

Severe Damage: EEYOOW! ><

I would do the upside down thing, but put the behavior in a seperate zip file, so purists won't be upset.

He's an alien. Plus, who's gonna tell him how to hold the weapon?
 Darth Xhan
08-02-2002, 8:27 PM
#30
Did you guys give him cheekbones, or is he gonna run around with his mouth open all time .....

*slobber slobber*
 agentj64
08-02-2002, 9:42 PM
#31
I would have given him some mouth capability hell even made the animation for opening and closing in taunts, but
A) cant make aniamtions:P
B) no mouth animations used in multiplayer (well jedimod, but thats just nodding)
C) its 2 models
one will have it so its open, the other closed, so you could select it
it works fine too:)

just one skin will draw it open and one will draw it closed (both are included)

I havnet gotten any emails? then again i get lots of spam:|

try agentj64@tampabay.rr.com maybe thatll work
 Darth Xhan
08-03-2002, 1:27 AM
#32
Sent.
 agentj64
08-03-2002, 3:37 PM
#33
http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~polycount/ubb/Forum2/HTML/004847.html)

Arco might skin it:)
w00t

As for problems: i can't seem to get his chest right and his arm deformations...Covenant I'm in chat please come in or PM me
 PIo Koon
08-04-2002, 12:31 PM
#34
Agent whered u go lsat night? u said ud be back and u never got back

o well

this has nuthing to do with JK2...but heres another model thats going into my C&C Renegade mod =O)
http://www.renegademods.info/users/SpartnII/WraithTankConceptBeta.jpg)

what do u guys think? its not finished yet
 Darth Xhan
08-04-2002, 1:09 PM
#35
If Arco could do it that would be hella tight.. (don't forget to mention the extra green and brown/yellow schemes ;) )

looks someone is as picky as me.. :lol: His torso is just fine. And I've already ranted enough about the head.. I like Spikes on both arms... and some of teh elites have them on both (Maw) so it's all good.

I'm working on getting the sounds from Halo.. It's moving slower than I thought because the Elites aren't cooperating very well :lol: ;) As for me, Pitchshifting, sample reversing, is going A-OK, and I've been yelling my ass off into a mic... rofl.. I even do it in the car at people I pass.. ;) But I want totake the time toget it perfect, so please bear with me.. Also in addition to the sounds I put up, do you guys want any other sounds to go in, for whatever reason?
 PIo Koon
08-04-2002, 4:54 PM
#36
http://www16.brinkster.com/bnkinc/WraithBeta2.jpg)

update =OP...anyway i will stop spamming this thread with another games models...unless u guys want me to =OD
 TheMadDoofer
08-04-2002, 5:19 PM
#37
Is that the ghost or the poltiergeist?
 PIo Koon
08-04-2002, 5:52 PM
#38
poltiergeist?...that wasn't funny =OP

and no its not the Ghost...if u would read the file name it says Wraith Tank Beta...so its the Wraith Tank =OP ;)
 agentj64
08-05-2002, 3:05 PM
#39
School starts soon:\
:jawa

So I'll be gone for today and tomorrow, working on my last bits of homework.

I'm basically done with the model, im sending it to CovenantElite/PIo Koon later tonight to review it, then I have to maybe add LODs, and send it the skins to Arco tonight as well. The only problem is arm clipping, I have no solution:| the arm goes through through the armor, and the only real method would employ rebuilding the mesh, we must understand the the mesh was crated that a humanoid body in mind would be in place, with clothing, not armor or as such. And if any armor, very little, not a huge chunk like the Covenant's :p

Nonetheless he plays fine, the poll is still up, should he have an upside saber or not?

:)

I've added arm caps and other caps as well, he's all set to go, Arco I'll talk to you later;)

L8r all
 PIo Koon
08-05-2002, 3:10 PM
#40
lol Agent J...i know a sollution...merge some of the verts that are on his arm inside his body...there wasted faces anwyay

also...he should have a regular saber...its going to **** everything up..and if someone makes a beamsword..itll be upside down...it should be right side up

my 2 cents

PS: GET ON MIRC
 agentj64
08-06-2002, 4:28 PM
#41
I've completed the Covenant Elite
working on the Covenant Grunt
I have a problem!
How to model small? Should I find no solution I will just have to shrink the skeleton :p and if that doesnt work i can always resize...real simple;)

nonetheless any help in solving how to model small would be greately appreciated


if I made the skeleton small would it still compile? any one know?
 agentj64
08-06-2002, 4:31 PM
#42
Oh I've sendt the skin to Arco and someone else on polycount forums..so alls is good:D
 agentj64
08-06-2002, 5:33 PM
#43
http://halo.bungie.org/screenshots/msxbox.031301/h9.jpg)

Judging by the constraints I can't find a good solution

At least with Yoda a cloak could hide the legs

Here I can't

my 2 problems

A) the legs are ЎЗ shaped, most human legs are | or \ in this case at a 15.5 degree angle from vertical for jk2..
Now that isn't a problem on itself, theorticially i could just model it outside the constraints of the bones and the bones when they move forward, would my verts forward (i don't know of any side to side animations with the bones of legs in mp)

B) the torso is big, if I just gigantic modeled it like Kinja, where its actually real big so you can size it down, that would mean the torso would come up to the femurs at most.. the problem there is if the leg moves forward how will the torso->leg area react? since he has no femurs..just horizontal..things...


its confusing but I'll do it nonetheless;)
 PIo Koon
08-06-2002, 8:31 PM
#44
hey everyone

personally i don't think im good enough to start on a player model thats 100% my work and didn't get help from anyone

BUT...i need a model as a learning experience and AgentJ isnt going to make him...so i decided to try and see what i could come up with

i am going to make the Covenant Hunter...plz note that this picture is VERY EARLY BETA..sod on't get ur hopes up..but heres 30 minutes of work

http://www.renegademods.info/users/SpartnII/Hunter.jpg)

it might be the best picture angles but there u go =OP...i should have him finished within the next couple days...*MAYBE* tonight if i waste my night =OP lol

and herse what im modeling if your ignorant to Halo

http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/gallery/stills/still_21.jpg)
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/gallery/stills/still_22.jpg)
 Sam
08-06-2002, 10:55 PM
#45
Don't forget to put the armorless spot on there back
 Galactic Magi
08-07-2002, 1:32 AM
#46
o.o a funny thought from these Halo models. Make the warthog. It could stand on its back wheels and use its front wheels like hands (like the car from fighters megamix) that or the girl thats in his computer thing.
 Sam
08-07-2002, 2:20 PM
#47
or they could just make a prefab of it
 agentj64
08-07-2002, 6:15 PM
#48
Heh let's make Guilty Spark 434:0
bring it on yoda, we got a orb!
 agentj64
08-08-2002, 3:16 PM
#49
Actually someone already has the guilty spark 434 model who has sent me it, too bad its gMAX
PLO help me out?
 PIo Koon
08-08-2002, 3:27 PM
#50
send me the file for ONCE and i might help u =OP
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