There are some guys including me that really like the Naboo, but (oh cruel reality) there is no campaign for them ...
So what do you think if we (the community) make a"official unofficial" Naboo campaign ...
Any ideas ??Should be 6 scenarios (plus one)to keep the official format ...
Sounds Super-Riffic.. We could get a team together and start working..
One Question: Since the Gungan Campaign is about defending Naboo from the TF, a Naboo campaign like that would be redundent.. What should we make the plot?
Why not have the Naboo fight against the Gungans at first (few missions; the old vendetta), and then have the TF invade and let you join forces with the Gungans ? That way you have that scenario, with a twist...
...and you could replay the mission in Theed with Amidala and her bodyguards making their way to the palace. A lot of potential !
Sounds great, we need some guys that can make decent maps though for a starting point after storylines.
Right. First make the story-lines.
Keep in mind that it has to be a campaign that is slowly increasing in difficulty, folks.
Right Leon, I thought the same ...
Maybe the first contact(wrong universe, argh) between the neighbours, and later the stand against the TF ....
I'll go right to my Naboo Sourcebook for the PRG and look for inspiration ...
You guys have experience with mapping ??
Well I think a good first mission would be the gugans and the naboo meeting...
Depanding on who is the agresser would tell you where the reset of the story goes. Here are 2 possable ideas....
1. You are in control of a naboo scouting party who runs into a gungan base. Then the naboo can ether, tell the gungans that this is there land and destory the base, or the gugans can tell them to get out and try to destory them (This would end with the naboo taking out all military units)
2. You are in control of a local defenes force when a gugan invastion starts. And you have to servie.
ok i like this idea a lot but i seem to remember that in one of the Designer's Diaries the Designer states that that's what THEY originally planned but found that the Gungans never did fight the Naboo
Like i said its a great idea but u might want to check into that
I like idea 2. But I can extrapolate on it. You're in control of a remote outpost deep in the swamps when some Gungan troopers come strolling past. They preceed to attack your light walls/your light turret fires on them(they are,after all strange beings). Then the Gungans play out some dialog where a trooper says something along the lines of "Yousa have attacked wesa. Innocent Troopers. Yousa shall pay" and they attack your remote sentry stations.. And you either have to send Amidala/Panaka to the swamps near Otoh Gunga(to go underwater and meet with Nass to have peace talks) or destroy all the Gungan military on the map. Either way in the end there's peace between you(for now......). Or else the Sending Panaka/Amidala to the swamps near Otoh Gunga can be put into a later mission where the Gungans and Naboo fight(maybe the last Gungans fighting Naboo level). And then right after that the Trade Federation attacks and have destroyed those 3 towns in the First TF level and you must retaliate. So...is those some good ideas? I can give some more if needed.
That is a good point i think i remeber that as well...
We could say that it was just a fatcion (like in the gungan campain) that attacked the naboo, and that could be how the fighting never got as bad as to say that it was the two races fighting...
That would fix the problem but bring up the new one of y did they STOP fighting
I guess the reason i'm criticizing(sp.?) this a lot is I have my own Naboo Campaign that i'm planning on making; i'm not getting into the specs because if i do someone else will use it and take the credit:p
The Rogue Gungan Faction sounds interesting.. What could the "Bonus" mission be though?
If it comes out late enough maybe you could stick something from Episode II into the Campaign as a Bonus Mission
or you could have it say that naboo had a larger army then they did, and they are the ones on the grassy field to fight the trade federation.
My RPG Sourcebook told me that there WAS fighting when human settlers landed to find their luck on Naboo .Even after the fighting was over Naboo Senators told the Senate that Gungans where nothing but Savages ...
Bonus could be that the Invasion wasn't executed as the Naboo military simply destroyed the forces tryin to establish the beachhead ...
Last regular mission could be getting the quenn through occupied Theed to the palace ...
Hey Dash, if you are planning a Naboo campaign anyways, why not join forces ;)
I would but...
1. I don't have the game yet. :(
2.I think mine is better:p :D
(I did post it now)
Yeah, I'm quite good at maps, so I can help. If u guys want me to anyway.
Sounds great. If you want anybody at SCN Punk (
http://scnpunk.com/) to help out, just drop a note in our forums (
http://scnpunk.com/cgi-bin/forums/Ultimate.cgi).
I personally think we should make something original... completely strayed from the SW storyline. It's like the first half of the Gungan campaign, except that's all of it is like that.
Good idea, Stan.
We should make a list of all the people in this project...
Thx to Kudar for posting this on the main page ...
Yup, we should try to get all interested ppl together in a series of chats .I think that would be more effective than just posting .
As soon as there is a established team, we should divide it into varios departments (story, mission design, actual map making etc)
Just keep the good ideas coming ...
maybe you should control the original colonization party. it is, er, suggested in the movie that there is bad blood between gungans and naboo, and the game states that the reason for the peaceful Naboo having an army is tht threat of the Gungan army. Thus, I would say that the gungans were the aggressors, possibly right from the initial landing. there should be 'defend the colonist landers' missiond 'establish a colony and secure the area' scouting missions, etc. I like the naboo on the grassy field idea. perhaps the Naboo abandoned their pacifist ifdeas in the Gungan conflict and built up a large defense force? that could be cool.
Hey is a list of everyone that has been giving ideas in this thread and what kind of help they have given or said they can give...
Com Raven (creator, Central European)
Clefo (story, Mountain time (-7 gmt))
Paragon_Leon (story)
Kudar (stroy)
Wraith 5 (Story, CST (-6 gmt))
DashRendar (story)
RogueJedi86 (story)
Crazy_dogreturn (map maker)
Stan|SCN Punk (map maker, story)
Croid Cog (story)
PT4414 (story)
darthfergie (story, Design)
Young David (story)
Natopo (stroy)
Chet Dakota (playtest, story)
ReaperFet (historian, Story)
Gungan Warrior (story)
Zendjir (historian)
Morbius007(story, mapmaker)
Sorry if i missed anyone...
Thx Wraith, though I think Kudar is on the team too ...
So what do you think how the mission should be divided ??
Half original, half movie ??
Prob is that the Naboo didn't do many things in the movie that would make for challenging missions ...
Something I forgot, what time zones do you live in ??
Would be useful to plan a chat ..
Central European myself...
I was curious about the lack of a Naboo campaign (anyone know why?) and found this thread interesting. From what I gather, everyone's been focusing on a Naboo-Gungan-TF related story line. There could be another angle that could play out.
First off, I'm assuming that Naboo still would be in existance after the rise of the Empire (it IS Palpatine's home planet). I'm also going to make the big assumption that the TF would still be in existence, but in a very much-weakened form.
Campaign could start out just as Palpatine dissolves the Senate and the Imperial Navy and Army start to control various systems, including Naboo. First mission could be some Naboo resisters attempting to free prisoners from an Imperial prison camp. Next mission could be defending those newly-freed prisoners from an Imperial counterattack. Third could be a search for allies kind of mission (like Starcraft used to have) where the Naboo would have to find the Gungans and convince them to join the fray. TF could come into play as an ally of the Empire (kind of like hired mercenaries - if they want to keep their trade franchises they gotta help destroy the resistance - and the Empire's all about having someone else do their dirty work for them) in the fourth mission. Fifth could have Naboo launch an attack against the TF droid control facility, guarded by both Imperial and TF forces. Sixth could be some sort of final battle against the Imperial stronghold on Naboo. Some sort of sub-plot on how the Naboo managed to gain territory and resources would have to be woven into the main plot, but that would be easy. It could also be possible to make the third mission an initial attack on the Gungans but then at the end of the stage the Imperials and/or TF come in and then new mission objectives would be to ally with the Gungans and destroy the Imperials/TF. It is also possible to work some sort of sup-plot where Naboo has to get Amidala off the planet and away from Vader.
I dunno, it's just a thought.
Raven not a problem, I will updated that list everytime someone else adds something, takes on a new task, or post a time zone.
Thanks or finding the people i missed!
PT4414 that would work has well, and that brings up a new point...
What time frame should the campiagn be in or which few if you want to do a history thing...
Naboo is included in Star Wars Galaxies, which is set during the Civi War, so the Empire doesn't destroy it ...
That would be another idea, go beyond the movie ....
How about 2 missions pre-Ep I, 2 from the movie, and 2 Sequels ??
That would leave enough free space for our own creativity as well as give ppl something they recognize ....
That sounds cool.
Just to make sure i have it right...
2: pre ep 1
2: ep 1-2
2: ep 4-6 or post ep 6
Aff Wraith, that's what I ment ..
sare gutt (sorry i can't spell german very good :( Then again i can't spell english very good either....)
So should me try to make the mission fit a story line, or use 3 different stroy lines?
No facing Gungans guys...remember that Gaber originaly had the Gungans fighting the Naboo, but decided that they never fought too much...
I personally think there should be a fight over the kingship of Naboo...Remember in Cloak of Deception, written by James Luceno, that the King of Naboo had a 'sudden' death and the Planet of Naboo was in choas...and somehow...out of the choas...emerged the young Queen Amidala...I think that if we make a campaign that it should show her rise to power...
Scenario 1= The King has died...Captain Panaka (i think he is a hero) finds him dead and he and his guard force search out the traitor...(kill a few people nothing major)
Scenario 2= Several factions of 'potential' canidates fight it out...you/Panaka are on a quest to desern the best heir to the throne. You and your small task force are attacked several times by the waring factions...you find Amidala/Padme...end scenario
(continued in next post)
It could go about the recistance of the Naboo against the TF.
Some mission will be about transporting information and raiding TF setlements (this could be a link to the 3nd TF mission)
One mission contains the rescue of Sio Bible. He has been captured and forced to record the famous line "You must contact me!"
One mission let's you escort the Queen to Theed. The recistance has been approached by a Gungan Tribe with the news that Queen Amidala has returned to Naboo and needs an escort to Theed.
The last regular mission contains the commando type operation like in the movie. A Full Theed map with the Hangar and the palace, the heroes and a lot of Trade Federation forces.
The What if:
Sio Bible send a transmission to the Queen. Sabй replies and comforts them. The Trade Federation sends troops from a nearby system to Tatooine and start their search for the queen. With the help of R2-D2 (rebel worker droid) the queen and her people make a small camp to defend their ship.
In the meanwhile Qui Gon and Anakin need to make their way to the camp when they run into a Tusken Raider camp
(continued from last post)
Scenario 3= Amidala anounces her intent for the throne...and is attacked by most of the waring factions...she has but one ally (I forgot his name...the advisor to amidala in the movies that stays behind) They fight together and defeat several factions...
Scenario 4= Amidala is now put up against the strongest faction...the faction of the king's nephew...fight it out...
Scenario 5= Amidala is being crowned queen and rules no military action will be taken against the TF...She is captured...Qui-Gon and Obi-One rescue here...oh and Jar Jar too...you have to get her to the hangar alive...
Scenario 6= Infiltration of the Palace after they come back...capture Nute Gunray...
Scenario 7= *bonus scenario* You get to defend Theed from the TF invaders with the small skeleton force that Naboo holds...
Scenario 8=*bonus scenario* face off with the Gungans...Panaka vs. Boss Nass...
I live in Mountain time BTW
I like Fergie's idea.. It wouldn't cut into contiunity that much...
I also like Yound David's What if Mission idea...
I'm willing to help out. Not expert in anything, but could still help.
One thing to remember is the Heroes. Will you add others(Like Ric Oliй)? Or stay with those known?
:fett: :bdroid2:
Hey, I've got storyline for the Naboo campaign. We could have the 1st mission where the Naboo civ are transported forward in time. To the time of the Galactic Empire. Then the 2nd mission would be where they meet the Rebel Alliance before the battle of Hoth. Just before they find Han Solo. Then we could have all these missions where the Naboo aid the Rebel Alliance in thier fight against the Galactic Empire.
:bdroid2: :amidala: :fett: :atat:
Well, continued from my last reply, one of our missions could be where the Trade Federation comes in through through the same time portal and they come in with a huge army right next to a major Imperial Outpost, heavily guarded and very strong. Then the Gungans would come through with a medium-sized attack force and together you would have to destroy that outost. I think this would make an interesting stroyline. Oh, and another thing, I have some map experience so if you'd like me to help out with some map making I'd be happy to once I get Galactic Battlegrounds.
Well, If you don't like my previous suggestion for the story line then her's another one. The first Scenario would be where you're in Theed and your on a scouting mission to the country side of Naboo. Then when you're about to go back, a portal appears and a huge Imperial Army comes and starts attacking you. You get a new mission objective which is to get back to Theed. The 2nd scenario would be where you would go back to that location and you must find out what that is. You have a medium-sized attack force and must destroy the portal.:evanpiel: :atat: :band: :bdroid1: Then, the 3rd scenario is where you find out portals are appearing everywhere around Theed. But 4 out of the 20 have Rebel Alliance armies coming. You've got to help the Rebel Alliance get the to the Imperial portals and destroy them. Then you would have to destroy the Imperial Armies. The 4th scenario would be when you find out the Imperials have made a base. A big one for that matter. Then you get word that the Trade Federation has joined forces with the Imperials. They're all at that big outpost. Then your sensors pick up that they're launching a massive strike force at you.:atat: You're objective would be to hold them off for 20 min. while the civillians escape through the Rebel Transport ships. The 5th scenario would be where you've decided to take the offensive. But you know that you and the Rebel Alliance can't fight the TF and the GE. So you must journey to the Swamps where you hope to find the Gungans and make an Alliance. You must make sure you don't run into any Imperial forces or maybe even some unexpected creatures or you're suprise for the enemy will be ruined. The 6th scenario would be where you are controling all the 3 races and you have to wipe out the threat. Though this won't be easy. You will have to destroy thier portal generator before you launch any major offensives or they will just summon reinforcements. The What-if mission would be what if you didn't destroy the portal generator and they shifted it to another place in Naboo. You wouldn't have as big an army and you would have to find some way to summon the Wookies namely by taking over the Portal Generator and getting them.
YD, that idea about Sio Bibble sounds cool ...
And to Fergie, as I mentioned before, the RPG sourcebook tells us that there was a lotta fighting in the beginning (of course all Lucasfilm approved ...)
How about a chat this wekend ??
Couldn't Fergie's concept of a battle for the throne be resolved in the first 2 scenarios (the pre-episode 1 part of the campaign). The introduction could be the death of the king and the rise of rogue Nubian factions. Scenario 1 could be a race to get Amidala to the palace before the rogue factions get there. Scenario 2 could be a search and destroy mission to rid Naboo of the rogue faction.
Scenario 3 and 4 could cover the Episode 1 part of the story line (I'm loath to take liberties on what will happen in Episode II and I don't want to know until I see it). Backstory for this portion of the campaign could be that after Amidala and co. defeated the rogue Nubians free elections were held and she won. However, the TF saw the recent instability as an opportunity and invaded. Scenario 3 could be a build the monument game where Amidala's forces have to build a beacon to establish an independent communication link to the Republic and then defend the beacon from TF attack until help (read: Qui Gon and Obi Wan) arrive. Scenario 4 could be the assault on the TF stronghold on Naboo.
Scenario 5 and 6 would be an "out of the frying pan and into the fire" kind of deal where the TF is gone but the Empire steps in. A lot of storyline options here. Get the Queen off the planet, help a Nubian Jedi rid defeat the Empire, Gungans and Nubians team up, etc...
I can help play test the proposed Naboo Campaign if you need the help. That way, I can give an honest review from those who are doing the design.
I have been a Beta Tester for a major design studio since 1997.
Chet
Originally posted by PT4414
Couldn't Fergie's concept of a battle for the throne be resolved in the first 2 scenarios (the pre-episode 1 part of the campaign). The introduction could be the death of the king and the rise of rogue Nubian factions. Scenario 1 could be a race to get Amidala to the palace before the rogue factions get there. Scenario 2 could be a search and destroy mission to rid Naboo of the rogue faction.
Didn't they say in Ep 1 that Amidala was "voted" to the throne? Or elected? I remember Panaka saying it to someone.
Originally posted by PT4414
Scenario 5 and 6 would be an "out of the frying pan and into the fire" kind of deal where the TF is gone but the Empire steps in. A lot of storyline options here. Get the Queen off the planet, help a Nubian Jedi rid defeat the Empire, Gungans and Nubians team up, etc...
I like this idea...Have the Empire move in and destroy the Gungans and have the Naboo and remains of the Gungan race defeat the Empire. You could do a major battle sequence that you just watch, kinda like the Joan of Arc Campain in AOK2.
I am sure you can help us as soon as there is something to test :D
Till then, all input is appreciated as well...
ow about this :the campaign (whatever the actual storyline may be ...) is narrated (in written text) by a young officer of the Royal army !
Could begin like this
Naboo. A peaceful world, inhabited by peaceloving people ! Or at least that's what the galaxy thinks about us and our world .
But even the most peaceful people must sometimes take up arms to defend their freedom .
This is the story of our struggle for peace ...
Did anyone read my thoughts for the story line?!:c3po: :atat: :amidala: :bdroid2: :deathii: :deathstar
Please read them. Sorry if it cAME IN TO LATE! ReAD IT! nOW!
Can I just point out that a resident of Naboo is NOT a Nubian. Nubian's are from Nubia, a planet with strong ties to Naboo. THINK Naboo people are Nabooians
I still like my full Idea back there...call me biased if you want to but still...
Scenario 1= The King has died...Captain Panaka (i think he is a hero) finds him dead and he and his guard force search out the traitor...(kill a few people nothing major)
Scenario 2= Several factions of 'potential' canidates fight it out...you/Panaka are on a quest to desern the best heir to the throne. You and your small task force are attacked several times by the waring factions...you find Amidala/Padme...end scenario
Scenario 3= Amidala anounces her intent for the throne...and is attacked by most of the waring factions...she has but one ally (I forgot his name...the advisor to amidala in the movies that stays behind) They fight together and defeat several factions...
Scenario 4= Amidala is now put up against the strongest faction...the faction of the king's nephew...fight it out...
Scenario 5= Amidala is being crowned queen and rules no military action will be taken against the TF...She is captured...Qui-Gon and Obi-One rescue here...oh and Jar Jar too...you have to get her to the hangar alive...
Scenario 6= Infiltration of the Palace after they come back...capture Nute Gunray...
Scenario 7= *bonus scenario* You get to defend Theed from the TF invaders with the small skeleton force that Naboo holds...
Scenario 8=*bonus scenario* face off with the Gungans...Panaka vs. Boss Nass...
(you can think up your own Ideas for the bonus missions...they were just quick thoughts the rest were thought out and planned)
Who are we going to select to make it??? And how???
Would we have a small team of maybe three creators who:
1) The first creator lays out the basis for the game and makes the campaign
2) The first creator then sends the campaign to his two partners and they tweek it adding a few personal touches and double checking the triggers
3) once done they then have an official "Beta" testing copy...
4) They gather a few gamers to test it and they test it themsleves
5) Once tested bugs are found and the campaign is once again tweeked and then tested by creators for anymore bugs
6) decide on a "final" copy of the campaign and release it on site as one of the better campaigns designed for GB...
That would be the effecient way of doing this at least...(we might even set up a small private forum for the game designers to post to other game designers and testers about the updates to the campaign and bugs found)