Originally posted by Kylilin

I think that people have the right to engage in relations with the people of their choosing, gay or not, I respect your right to be whatever way you want to be...
Amen my brothers and sisters, AMEN!

As I learned in my psych class, somewhere around 85-90% of your reactions are based on instinct. It was somewhat disturbing that only around 10% of what you do is based on something you THOUGHT.

The short version: the reason for the female orgasm is to keep her from running away by delivering a disabling amount of pleasure (instead of pain because if it caused pain then the species wouldn't have survived long).

Well, i'll be banned by tomorrow for saying 'orgasm' at least three times. ****.

but you get so uptight about this whole thing. It's funny! I can't help it! And in my eyes you lost because I bothered you so much you told me to go away.

Actually the reason you're seeing only me on my side is because I'm the only one on that's native to here really. We're surprisingly conservative and had traditionally attacked liberal views (particularly when cockmongers didn't think the middle east needed a hefty dose of the bomb). I told you to go away because you DO bother me. I don't go over to where ever you came from and bother YOU. go back to where you came from.

Okay, I'm sorry my views bother you, but I can't help it. It's the way I am. And I won't leave just 'cause you don't like me. I usually post at rs.net, come visit. Bug the hell out of me. I don't care. And I didn't come here to bother you, I came here to post. Which is what I'm doing.

Lesbians hit on me, I dont care. Most girls dont...I think its guy thing....

^^;;;; the herds of sheep are the "Theoretical masses" Not the politicians. Of course, the politicians are sheep too because they can only do what they are told to do. Sure they formulate their own opinions, but opinions wont go far without support of the sheep. 'sides. I like sheep. They're soft. ^___^!!! I'll tell you all the story of the scottish sheep later, when I'm not debating. with close-minded bigots.

Ok, so its theoreticly a right we posses. We can say anything we want to (So long as its not a confession to crime) and we wont arrestes, sure we piss some people off, but no matter what you say its going to piss someone off. I'm not attacking your right of speech. I'm attacking you're asinine philosophy.

You're not the jabberwocky or my son^^;;;; I didnt put that there, really. Fiona did, she's my randomness muse. I forgot to edit her footprints after she danced on the keyboard, and besides it was a comment for Jakov(Redwing), not you. So kindly ignor it.

OH!!! You're one of those people! I get it now. Like sister Mary.*Shudder*She was scary. And a little hairy. She wouldnt make a good faery...er...no more caffeine for me. I dont get how making love can be traumatic. Lots of people have fun, and just because you dont doesnt mean you have to ruin it for the other little girl and boys. GAH!! There you go with your hipocrasy again!!! Girls dont exchange genetic material when they have sex! If thats what you're all uppity about then you shouldnt be so accepting of Lesbians. We wouldnt even be having this debate if you didnt contradict yourself so much. Come to think of it, you would make a marvelous politician.

*Falls over laughing* Oh Wasslara, you are sooooo hyper right now! Good points though! :D Hee hee! You go girl!

*Bounces around.*Boink boink boink!! I loooooove debating with people!! Its fun. :)!!! Heeehheeeeeheeee!!! I AM hyper, you're right!!! Wow!!!! I could recite the Jabberwocky for you!!!! (Yes, I know the whole darn thing by heart* Or I could tell the sheep story....maybe another time.*Plays with her superego, Azreal*Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!

:eyeraise: Okay, who gave her the sugar?
And tell Az that Lucifer says hi. :evil1:

Um...I gave myself sugar, thank you very much.
*Az runs and hides in the corner*
Oh, look what you've done!*Pulls him out and plays patty cake with him to calm him down*

Liberal heathens. Your day will come. Project Final will see to it.

To sum up how things are and should be:
1) sex is not designed to be fun. It is supposed to result in children.
2) I have yet to contradict myself. I have yet to say that I dislike lesbians. Also I have not said anything about <i>lesbian sex</i>. victory on a technicality.
3) there was a number 3 but i forgot it.

Now run along children. And remember, anyone that <s>isn't a ****ing moron</s> doesn't agree with your <s>flawed liberal</s> progressive mindset is wrong!

And to sum it all up:
"I believe you can't control or choose your sexuality"

I'm a heathen!!! YAY!!!!!!!! I'd rather be a heathen and actually have people enjoy my company than be "Moral" And hate people because of something so insignifigant as sexual prefrence.

1) Who cares what it was designed for? the internet was designed for the military so that they could comunicate and its used for what now? Thats right kiddies, fun!!!

2) I'm not debating for victory, I'm debating for the thrill and the fun. Give me a subject, give me a point to argue(So long as I have a general knowlege of what I'm arguing) And I'll debate. I dont care about winning or losing. But really, the way you know that you've won is not if you have proven that you are "Right", its if you keep your cool through the debate and dont call your aponent names or tell them to run along because you finaly realize that you no longer have an argument (this does not to say that you dont have an argument, beacouse you do. Its a good one too, but you just dont argue it well)

3) If you dont have a point to make then dont write it down, it wastes space and makes you look like you dont know what you're doing.

When you want to stop debating, dont tell the other person to just run along and attempt to insult your opponent. Do it gracefully. Say something like, I understand your opinion even if you do not understand mine. Your point have been made and I believe mine has also. Close argument.

Keep in mind that if I felt like it, I would be arguing your side had you not contradicted youself from the beginning even though I dont believe in your views. Keep in mind also that ones views are an opinion and that an opinion is never wrong, for it is not fact. In a debate one does not try to prove the other wrong, but rather make his own opinion heard and understood, nothing more. Just understood. Understand?

T'was a good debate Wasslara. You argued well. :) Had some good points! God I love doing this! It's so much fun! Must be the German in me... :p

Ooooooh yes. I would say thats what it is.

I never gave up. I told you to go away because:
1) this bores me.
2) I have no allies.

Eventually, someone will come and back me up. Gunner and Zarg probably. Maybe Keyan too. Definitely Zarg. RIGHT ZARG?
I'm fairly tired of people repeating their point over and over again in large paragraphs when it can easily be said in a few sentences or a list as I have chosen to do.

Perhaps you have noted my sig. It lists my occupation as MENSA troll. Do you know what a MENSA troll is?

The MENSA Troll shares many characteristics of The Flamethrower Clone, but this style of poster refrains from writing as many blatant homosexual overtones. The general gist of all the MENSA Trolls' posts should hint at the idea that the MENSA Troll is the smartest creature in the world, and every time he posts a message, it is for the sole purpose of manipulating others on the forum. It doesn't matter what reaction he gets from anything he writes because the MENSA Troll can justify anything he wants. If, for some reason he is not able to justify it, he should ignore it completely and avoid the subject. Under NO circumstances should the MENSA Troll respond to anybody's criticisms of him; he should instead continue to criticize everybody else and avoid engaging in a two-way conversation.

EXAMPLES. The MENSA Troll will post the following messages:

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I'm just doing my job.

Wow, you must be really proud. :rolleyes: It's fun manipulating people huh? I was doing it to you.

So, basicly you're unintelligent and you masquerading as intelligent so that you can win an argument that no one can win because you're apponent wont change his oppinion. Great tactics there. I've already given my closing statement, so you wont be needing backup, but thank you for your consideration. I'm sorry it bored you, because I was having a lot of fun.*Pout* It would have been better if you were enjoying yourself to, I'm sure.

Okay, case closed. I'm done here. Good job Wasslara. Nute, it was fun.

Actually <i>Nute Gunray</i> doesn't exist. None of this would have transpired unless *I* had started it. I selected words and terms and constructed a scenario and executed it until it bored me. I manipulated YOU into manipulating me. You will receive a cookiee if you figure out at what point this just became something to amuse myself with.

Ya, well, we're over it. Come visit us over a RS.net if you've got the balls to try it again. I wont even check this thread after this post, so dont bother replying.

Good. They left.

Mission accomplished.

You've really made me curious about Project Final. Does it have anything to do with spontaneous combustion of liberal heathens?
Or is it just Nute's Grand Sexual Contra-Revolution?

Originally posted by Nute Gunray
Good. They left.
Mission accomplished.

Excellent work, Agent Gunray!
This is exactly why invasions of XWA never succeed.

They don't encounter much inital resistance, but before long the occupying force figures out that they don't really want to be here after all.
'Tis truly a beeeutiful thing! :joy:

Good thing that I as here to **** up the forum or they would have stayed.

I particularly enjoyed the part where I was derided for insulting, while they were insulting me. And I apparently was contradicting myself :confused:

As for Project Final, the details can't be revealed at this time. I will say that you'll know when Project Final's time is at hand by all the security checkpoints manned by unfriendly soldiers and the random and surprising savage beatings. Originally it was called "Project Final Solution" but the PR people said it was "too Nazi." They approved Project Final because it sounds cryptic and vast.

On an unrelated note, buy all the bottled water, canned goods, and batteries you can in December 2020.

You people are weird.

GOOD JOB, GUYS!!!!!!! :D

Of course we are wierd, what else would we be?

Now i have to go calm the masses. You gotget that i control that sector. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by edlib


Excellent work, Agent Gunray!
This is exactly why invasions of XWA never succeed.

They don't encounter much inital resistance, but before long the occupying force figures out that they don't really want to be here after all.
'Tis truly a beeeutiful thing! :joy:

Well, Death and Wasslera weren't part of the invasion force, so...

:joy:

I don't really have anything to add to this debate (or *former* debate) except that A) stereotyping people as conservative or liberal is really old by now and B) n00t doesn't fit either stereotype anyway.

(FOOTNOTE: sex *is* designed to be fun. Sex = fun = people wanting to have sex = children; of course, this doesn't really fit the debate anyway)

And Cracken...we haven't done anything wrong :p

true red, though i'm still waiting. :) it's only begun.....
*fades into thin air, much like a ghost.... creeppy. :)*

uh, I <i>am</i> a Conservative. I'm a registered Republican. I love the second amendment, hate abortion, and hate all that liberal stuff. Noot=conservative

Also, sex is not supposed to be fun. Scientific fact. If it was, then more species would engage in sex for pleasure.

I won't believe you until I see your "Authentic Conservative" sticker ;) And I don't really care anyway, because these stereotypes are the kind of things that have torn America apart in the past...I'd like to form my own beliefs, thank you, not warp them to somebody else's (faulty) mold. If I hate the second amendment (I don't btw, this is just an example :p) but also hate abortion (which I do) does that make me a liberaservative or something? :rolleyes: (When I said you, n00t, don't fit the stereotype, I was referring to your attitude towards "man = animal" etc; which in my experience has been stereotyped as "liberal"...but like all stereotypes, that obviously can't hold true in all situations)

As for your sex comment, animals have sex because their brains are hardwired to; we are not animals in that sense, and we do engage in sex for pleasure. Our brains are not hardwired to have sex---we have no mating season, no driving force inside our brain that tells us to mate except for the fact that it is pleasurable. So why do you think it's not supposed to be that way?

There's something wrong with a Catholic who thinks sex isn't supposed to be fun.

Haha. Most Catholics are problably against having sex. But of course, 75% of all Catholics are well above 60 years old.

For that I am Catholic so.....shoot. (At east I am not 60. :o)

Originally posted by JR2000Z
Haha. Most Catholics are problably against having sex.

You're kidding, right?

Well sex before marriage at least.

But thats like 99% of all sex.

OH NO I think man is an animal (fact)! I'm only 99.999999% conservative. BOO HOO.
I was once a Leftish. Hell, I was once a <i>Communist</i> but then my independent study changed everything when I learned RIGHT IS...UH..>RIGHT? ****.

KEYAN: we're allowed to have sex? Hang on. I have to call the Pope and make sure someone's not lying to me.

Originally posted by Nute Gunray
KEYAN: we're allowed to have sex? Hang on. I have to call the Pope and make sure someone's not lying to me.

???

I was just citing an example of these stereotypes failure. :p

As for man being an animal, I agree with you in a sense, but it depends on your definition of "animal"; I mean I believe man is higher than animals (not classification of animal) because man has a soul, which animals do not have. There's too much evidence to suggest that man has a part to him that can be separated from his body for me to believe otherwise.

And I am sure Keyan can tell you that Catholics do belive we are allowed to have sex. :rolleyes: Since the Catholic Christian belief system has existed for millennia, that should be pretty obvious to you. Unless you said that because you don't like Catholics, and if so, I can't help you there, not being Catholic (tho alot if not most of my friends are)

The Church seems to portray sex as EVIL or something. I think it's probably just my priest though. My primary church (I go to two different ones depending on if I'm going alone or with my family or even weather conditions. the one's a shorter drive on roads that get priority for clearing and salting in winter) has two priests. Father #1 in anything that has to do with sinning or something will mention porn. It's gotten to the point where it's almost a joke amongst the parishioners (i KNOW i spelled that wrong). Father #2 likes to deliver long homilies that list all the different ways to sin. Sex appears a LOT. One that gets laughs in the parking lot after mass is "touching others in inappropriate places." The common joke is "inappropriate places? like, what, school? the workplace?" And he also will pause and then say in a loud voice MASTURBATION (seriously). After the tenth time he said it, you could see the average male attempting not to laugh. He also said that the Vatican has people hard at work finding NEW WAYS TO SIN every day. Apparently that's THE job to have I guess...:confused:

So, uh, there you have it. Whatever IT is.

Where I live, the church I go to is like Vatican City itself.

My church could say anything about porn and masurbation. Or even sex for that matter. Both of the priest who run my church always give 20 minute lectures of acting good and to be like Jesus. Make sense. But after your first 2 trips to Mass, you should be able to get the idea. Then you get the choir whose soul purpose is to make a 3 minute song for every 10 words the priest says. Their whole theme deals with 'God is Good'. WHO DOESNT KNOW THAT ALREADY? So anyway, they never mention sex or anything related to it. But I'm not complaining though.

Originally posted by Redwing

. Unless you said that because you don't like Catholics, and if so, I can't help you there, not being Catholic (tho alot if not most of my friends are)

Keyan, Nute, and I are all Catholics.

You can thank God you have priests who do discuss it. Young people need to have the point driven home before they start heading down the wrong road. Sex outside of marraige is certainly worthy of hell and they need to have no doubts about that. And masturbation is the highest form of selfishness and an insult to the dignity of the person commiting the act, to God, and to all human life. But the temptation to do these things is great, especially in our society today, where anything that makes you feel good is OK, and a priest needs to be persistent in combating that.

That doesn't make sex wrong, it just means it needs to be used in the proper context. Indeed, it is such a good and holy thing that to protect its sanctity is one of the greatest things an ordained man can do.

Right.

Sex before marriage = bad.
Sex during marriage = whatever.


But I believe that the Christian church as a whole does a lousy job of telling young people about this. I mean, usally during my Engish class, we discuss about sex but it turns out to be stuff like 'Oh my God, she's a virgin?' and stuff like that. And I have friends who like have sex with their girlfriends every week. Besides, who cares about anybody elses sex lives?

Yeah, I'm a virgin any everything, but everytime I'm by that kind of crowd, its very nerve wrecking.

I guess my complaint would be that he wrote a homily in 1978 and decided to stick with it. Stick with it forever. I mean, there ARE other things to talk about. Plus it IS funny to hear an old guy yell "masturbation" because you just don't hear that every day. ;)
That's one of the reasons I have my alternate church. The two priests (out of three or four I think) that I have regularly usually have interesting homilies. They're also short, but that's just because they get to the point and then not repeat it 5 times. Like two weeks ago, the one father was talking about the importance of salt to the world and how that made the "you are the salt of the earth" line (i think that's what it was) an important thing. And the other father is from Poland and has an awesome accent. Sometimes he has war stories that he somehow works into the homily. He was captured by the Nazis and was on a forced labor farm. He jokingly says being a prisoner on a farm was good because "at least we got food!"

Originally posted by JR2000Z

Sex during marriage = whatever.


Not only that, but it would be mortally sinful to refuse to have sexual relations with your spouse except for a serious reason. And "I had a rough day and I'm tired" isn't a serious reason.

Married people need to hear about what is and is not appropriate sexual behavior once in a while too.

The only time I have ever heard anything about sex in church was when our bishop was at my parish conferring the sacrament of Confirmation. He mentioned it to the candidates during his homily. Seriously - the only time. I really think it needs to be discussed more often.

But they usally don't because of the little children sometimes go to Church also.

Yes, well, when they do talk about it, they definately shouldn't be getting...graphic, if you know what I mean. But as Nute was saying, they don't need to talk about it every week. There are many other important things to say.

For example, I think Nute needs to hear a little bit about how global domination is not exactly consistent with the brotherly love we're all supposed to be showing one another :)

But under my malevolent rule, everyone will love each other. OR ELSE.

Originally posted by JR2000Z


Keyan, Nute, and I are all Catholics.

Nute didn't make that very obvious ;P *shrugs* I plead innocence by cause of ignorance. :D

Originally posted by Nute Gunray
And he also will pause and then say in a loud voice MASTURBATION (seriously). After the tenth time he said it, you could see the average male attempting not to laugh.
This just soooo reminds me of the Bevis and Butthead episode where they weren't allowed to laugh, and then had to sit through the sex-ed class taught by the gym coach.