1) The Emperor knows NOTHING of the Secret Apprentice
WHAT? OMG, all this time I didn't know what the word "secret" means!!!!!!!
3) He is EXTREMELY powerful, much more than anyone we have seen thus far....
OHHHH, I thought all that crazy stuff in the trailer about destroying capital ships was just somebody else doing that.
In the future please wrap your posts in [spoiler] tags when you post spoilers.
What spoilers? I didn't see a single thing in there that I didn't know already.
TFU stands for "The Force Unleashed" not for "The flaming unlseashed" :animelol:
Anyways, I'm beginning to see several tie ins with Star Wars stuff now. The apprentice is found on Kashyyk (which creates the possibilitie of Chewbacca and Quinlan Vos cameo's ), his mother and father are murdered by Order 66 (which leads us to the Clone Wars TV series) and he visites places like Nar Shaddaa (Reelo Baruk? Kotor 2? ). I think we need to see TFU not as a seperate game, buy maybe more as a huge project, TOGETHER with the upcoming TV serieus, books, toys and what not, to keep the Star Wars franchise alive. :)
What I mean to say is, I expect the Secret Apprentice to have cameo's in the different materials. Maybe we should concider those for clues as well? Someone mentioned the an old Mandalorian that was mentioned in the recent book series that went to Kashyyk...
Agreed, George has his seal of approval on the project, the makers have stated the games importance within the time line, and Sam Whitwer has said he may appear in the TV series...
and he visites places like Nar Shaddaa (Reelo Baruk? Kotor 2? ).
Although I have my own thoughts against a 4000 years cameo or any kind of relation, after Vector was announce, I don't doubt anything.
Although I have my own thoughts against a 4000 years cameo or any kind of relation, after Vector was announce, I don't doubt anything.
Locations wouldn't change ;)
Anyway, IIRC Reelo was in Jabba's Palace in Star Wars Galaxies, set in 1 ABY, so I dunno if he would have very many ties to Nar Shaddaa at that point (TFU's year).
Yeah, at that point in time Reelo was working for Jabba. And I can't imagine how anything could tie from KOTOR 2 to TFU. All the people from that era are dead by this time, and there's nothing else that's different.
Long text about Secret Aprrentice
*This was originally posted on Wookiepedia but was deleted no less than 1 minute after being posted- by the site administrators no less.... What makes me mad is that there are many many threads about who he may be, who the father is, and age- however mine is the one that gets tossed out.*
I think the reason why it's been removed is because there are no sources regarding what is, at the moment - conjecture.
Don't get me wrong, what you've said is well thought out - and it is said that the Apprentice is the son of a 'fallen jedi', but I wouldn't get too worked up... yet :) .
What spoilers? I didn't see a single thing in there that I didn't know already.
We might know all this stuff, being the Star Wars freaks that we are, but others might not :)
I'm not saying it doesn't. I'm just saying that we can speculate all we like, but we won't know fully until the game actually comes out.
I wasn't being sarcastic.
I'm not saying it doesn't. I'm just saying that we can speculate all we like, but we won't know fully until the game actually comes out.
Still, you have to admit, the speculation process before the release is at least a LITTLE bit enjoyable :). I won't say the suspense is killing me, but it sure is getting my heart going just a bit.
Oh yeah, it is fun to speculate a little bit, but I don't think it's best to over analyse to such an extent that you become certain of what will happen - and then you find out that the final version is completely different.
For all any of us know, that could be what actually happens - but I for one would like to see the story unfold before me.
Excellent! The thread provided by Darth Moeller gave some information away!
http://www.gamepro.com/nintendo/wii/games/previews/images/173588-10-1.jpg)
1. Apprentice (Bounty Hunter Disguise)
2. Apprentice (Corellian Flight Suit)
3. Apprentice (Father's Robes)
4. Apprentice (Light Training Gear)
5. Apprentice (Training Gear)
6. Apprentice (Raxus Prime Survival Gear)
7. Apprentice (Sith Robes)
8. Apprentice (Jungle Combat Gear)
9. Apprentice (Industrial Explorer Outfit)
10. Ultimate Good
11. Qui-Gon Jinn
12. Obi-Wan Kenobi
13. Anakin Skywalker
14. Darth Vader
15. Luke Skywalker (from Episode IV)
16. Luke Skywalker (from Episode VI)
17. Mace Windu
18. Ultimate Evil
19. Shaak Ti
20. Darth Maul
21. Count Dooku
22. Asajj Ventress
23. Master Rahm Kota
24. Aayla Secura
25. Mara Jade
26. Darth Phobos
27. Maris Brood
The two I bolded are the ones that look exactly like the one from the 'evolution' toy set. So it means there is at least an Evil and a good ending. :)
I don't think there's enough Apprentice suits there.
Regarding his Lineage, Check the video on the updated site, and you'll see a programmer scrolling through the Characters in V'S mode and the (what look like) the Redeemed/fathers robes are called "Kento's" robes, there is no mention of him in Wookieepedia or the Databank so I'm guessing he's been created for the TFU...
Take a look at this:
http://www.nzgamer.com/ps3/news/2563/exclusive-the-force-unleashed-information.html)
Remember Blackman saying his name had something to do with an 'S' ?
It appears to be true.
'Starkiller' it is, reflecting to the 'idea' that the Apprentice is somekind of photo negative of Luke Skywalker, who was originaly going to be called Starkiller in the movies.
Figures they couldn't think of a name on their own.
And what you're doing is called spam ;)
Check the link, it's confirmed.
a) By Blackman, dropping the leter S.
b) By Wookieepedia who immediately altered the page. Knowing some of the terror inquisitors there, it must have been real or they would have undone it already.
C) Starkiller is a nem in the original Star Wars script. It was refering to a surname (the whole beiing Anakin Starkiller), so why can't Starkiller be his last name?
First of all, just because you disagree with my implied negative opinion does not mean that my expression of that opinion is spam.
Second, Starkiller has been taken as a name for things several times already, not counting the original drafts. "Starkiller" has been the name of a starship, a superweapon, the Mandalorian in the Taris Arena in KOTOR 1, a Rodian seen in Star Wars: Galaxies, a Mon Calamari seen in Star Wars: Galaxies, and the nickname of a person from Marvel Star Wars #8.
It's a used name.
I wasn't pointing at you at all, TKA :s
There was a post after yours which said something along the lines that it's bullsh*t. That's why I posted the proof.
Seems like the original message was gone though. Plus, your post wasn't spam. Starkiller IS a known name. Even get's a small role in Kotor.
So, apolagies for it, but it wasn't aimed at you :)
pure speculation, but i like this Korto Vos explaination.
the setting seems right and look at the way Quinlan holds his lightsaber and his general look. Coincidence, maybe:
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/d/d4/Quinlan.jpg/250px-Quinlan.jpg)
http://www.forceunleashed.net/images/Apprentice_06.jpg)
Well, I guess new info says Kento is a Jedi
Kento[1] was a member of the Jedi Order during the Clone Wars and later the Great Jedi Purge. Along with his wife, he had a son named Starkiller and they lived on Kashyyyk[2]. Kento's wife was, at some point in time, killed by Trandoshan slavers whilst protecting the local Wookiees.
Kento fought Darth Vader in a lightsaber duel.[1] While using the Force to choke Kento, Vader's lightsaber was taken away from him by Kento's son. Sensing the boy's potential, Vader casually crushed Kento's throat, before killing a group of Imperial soldiers who had seen the boy. Thus, Starkiller became Vader's Secret Apprentice.[3]
Maybe Kento is an alias for Quinlan
Ehm...no offense, but why create a whole series of comics that end with his survival to have him killed in the next 10 minutes of a video game? Seems not the glorious death a character like Quinlan Vos deserves...
Plus, his son's name is Korto Vos. And, unless all the Starkiller and Kento stuff is a lightning rod, it doesn't seem to be the case :)
yeah, i realize this. i found the information on Kento after I originally posted. Apparently the great Jedi Purge wasn't that great. There are so many surviving Jedi left
However, it still would fit if both names were aliases, They lived on Kashyyk, it would seem strange for Vader not to notice another family of jedi there and Vader didn't have to know his name was Korto Vos and named him Starkiller because of what he was trained to do. But more than likely you are right and they are competely new characters
Although, your point is valid as well. How many families with the father as a Jedi and a baby son DO live on Kashyyyk? :)
The Quinlan Vos thing might have been a rejected idea, which they replaced with different names...
I just read the wookiepedia page on the Secret Apprentice, and I don't think that I should have. It revealed a lot...
And what you're doing is called spam ;)
Check the link, it's confirmed.
a) By Blackman, dropping the leter S.
b) By Wookieepedia who immediately altered the page. Knowing some of the terror inquisitors there, it must have been real or they would have undone it already.
C) Starkiller is a nem in the original Star Wars script. It was refering to a surname (the whole beiing Anakin Starkiller), so why can't Starkiller be his last name?
I've seen plenty of incorrect information on Wookieepedia, so that means nothing. Starkiller also isn't very cool a name, its kinda dumb sounding (whereas Skywalker sounds pretty cool), plus, the name has already been used for Bendak Starkiller, a Mandalorian merc 4000 years before TFU...who as far as we know died without children. XD
And species rarely has any effect on the potency of a Force-user's powers, its mostly about training and their own innate power. According to the vids on the site, Vader has basically been experimenting with the Apprentice to see how far one can take the powers of the Force.
As for his father, we see him on the first level, where you play as Darth Vader on Kashyyyk. Vader is hunting him as per Order 66, and that's when he finds the SA, the Jedi's son (who is unusually powerful in the Force, like Revan, Sadow, Bane, and the Skywalker family).
I actually think he should be the father of a semi-famous expanded universe Jedi. Then there's a solid connection to the rest of the universe, and at the same time, he feels totally original.
Maybe Quinlan is a brother or cousin?
Starkiller also isn't very cool a name, its kinda dumb sounding (whereas Skywalker sounds pretty cool), plus, the name has already been used for Bendak Starkiller, a Mandalorian merc 4000 years before TFU...who as far as we know died without children. XD
"Coolness" is subjective; I think it sounds just as good/the same level of dumbness. And about Bendak, who says he was the last surviving Starkiller? He could have had a whole host of relatives that we never knew about.
i said as far as we know, lol
Why does "Starkiller" sound dumb to you? I agree that Skywalker is cooler, but I don't think Starkiller is "dumb sounding" or "uncool".
It's an okay name, I guess but it could have meaning to the name, I don't know but they choose the name and I'm not going to argue with them.
i dunno it just sounds weird to me (so does skywalker, but in a less...weird way XD)
i guess i'll put it this way; i can't take a guy named Starkiller seriously. We all know the only reason it was used for Bendak, and i figure it got changed in the first place for a reason, you know?
Why does "Starkiller" sound dumb to you? I agree that Skywalker is cooler, but I don't think Starkiller is "dumb sounding" or "uncool".
Not like its uncool or something, but Starkiller does remind me of KISS.
And really, a KISS jedi is not exactly what we need, though that would make Peter Griffin and Family really happy.
I'm more bugged by the fact that they can't seem to think of a single name without recycling it from something else.
The only reason I dont like Starkiller is because it comes from a time when star wars wasn't how it is now, have you read what it was originally like and the art work?... it was like a REALLY bad Flash Gordan tv movie! thank god he re wrote it lol
Starkiller is an okay name, but I wonder if they couldn't come up with something better...
Maybe we get to blow up a freaken Star with the force in TFU! lol, still, i hope Starkiller is just a last name cuz it sounds a little cliche'd
Maybe it would be better as Draefund (means hunter) at least it has some meaning and it makes sense of what he'll be doing in the game...
what language is that? lol
Ehm...Luke Skywalker's name isn't just 'Skywalker.'
I guess Starkiller is his last name. So...in comparison with Skywalker, Calrisian, Solo and all. Why not? Any cool name could go before it :)
Draefund Starkiller? Not half bad!
I can't wait for this game.
Ehm...Luke Skywalker's name isn't just 'Skywalker.'
I guess Starkiller is his last name. So...in comparison with Skywalker, Calrisian, Solo and all. Why not? Any cool name could go before it :)
Draefund Starkiller? Not half bad!
Caine Starkiller?
Well, I think that it is Starkiller because I guess that LA was trying to get the point across that The Secret Apprentice is what Luke would have been if he had turned to the dark side in ESB. I have no idea if someone has already said that...
I would much prefer a better name for the secret apprentice. I think that Starkiller is just a little bit too original. I guess that you could say that Starkiller is a cool name, of course depending on your point of view. :xp:
We already know what Luke would be like if he ever goes DS, cause he did... remember thw whole emperor reborn thing?
Plus, Luke is what Vader/Anakin would be like LS, though Anakin is much much less of a stinkin' farmboy, despite the cliche pickup lines.
We already know what Luke would be like if he ever goes DS, cause he did... remember thew whole emperor reborn thing?
I think he was saying that in a non-literal sort of way. Luke as dark-sided in "Dark Empire" didn't really do anything except redeem himself as far as I can remember. The Secret Apprentice, meanwhile, is running around blowing up Σhitloads of stuff and somehow being secret at the same time. In that, I see at least one major difference between the "Dark Empire" Luke and Force Unleashed Starkiller.