http://wickedsick.org/wii_finder/)

One target in vegas is getting 156, which is why that's where I'm heading to at 4AM tomorrow morning.

If it wasn't for the fact that I didn't have a drivers license, I would be there right now -_-

So who's camping out/getting there extremely early for their Wii?

I think that thing's a bit buggy. The bolded ones are in different states.

42 1781 T-1781 West Colonial Target Store (407)290-6728 7501 W Colonial Dr Orlando FL 32818 300 393 324
33 2064 T-2064 Pinellas Park Target Store (727)803-0022 7150 US 19 N Pinellas Park FL 33781 300 393 354
24 1469 T-1469 Monroe Target Store (318)361-3781 4103 Pecanland Mall Dr Monroe LA 71203 300 391 302
120 1266 T-1266 Woburn Target Store (781)904-0002 101 Commerce Way Woburn MA 1801 400 493 429
60 1290 T-1290 Saugus Target Store (781)307-0000 400 Lynn Fells Pkwy Saugus MA 1906 400 493 429
51 1495 T-1495 Kingston Target Store (781)585-5825 101 Independence Mall Way Kingston MA 2364 400 496 428
24 1942 T-1942 Revere Target Store (781)922-6030 36 Furlong Dr Revere MA 2151 400 497 429
33 2173 T-2173 Abington Target Store (781)347-9003 385 Centre Ave Abington MA 02351-2209 400 497 439
24 1469 T-1469 Monroe Target Store (318)361-3781 4103 Pecanland Mall Dr Monroe LA 71203 300 391 302
24 1469 T-1469 Monroe Target Store (318)361-3781 4103 Pecanland Mall Dr Monroe LA 71203 300 391 302
120 1266 T-1266 Woburn Target Store (781)904-0002 101 Commerce Way Woburn MA 1801 400 493 429
60 1290 T-1290 Saugus Target Store (781)307-0000 400 Lynn Fells Pkwy Saugus MA 1906 400 493 429
51 1495 T-1495 Kingston Target Store (781)585-5825 101 Independence Mall Way Kingston MA 2364 400 496 428
24 1942 T-1942 Revere Target Store (781)922-6030 36 Furlong Dr Revere MA 2151 400 497 429
33 2173 T-2173 Abington Target Store (781)347-9003 385 Centre Ave Abington MA 02351-2209 400 497 439
39 1095 T-1095 Minneapolis NE Target Store (612)781-7033 1650 New Brighton Blvd Minneapolis MN 55413 100 191 124
24 1201 T-1201 Independence Target Store (816)373-1800 17810 E 39th St S Independence MO 64055 100 194 123
24 1455 T-1455 Liberty Target Store (816)781-4238 9220 NE Barry Rd Kansas City MO 64157
24 1892 T-1892 Raleigh Central Target Store (919)781-9848 4191 The Circle at North Hills St Raleigh NC 27609 400 492 449
24 1892 T-1892 Raleigh Central Target Store (919)781-9848 4191 The Circle at North Hills St Raleigh NC 27609 400 492 449
24 1978 T-1978 Graceland Target Store (614)781-1978 55 Graceland Blvd Columbus OH 43214 400 494 410
39 1847 T-1847 Wilsonville Target Store (503)682-7781 25925 SW Heather Pl Wilsonville OR 97070
24 994 T-0994 New Braunfels Target Store (830)620-7308 642 S Walnut Ave New Braunfels TX 78130 300 392 322
42 1204 T-1204 San Antonio NE Target Store (210)945-9102 8234 Agora Pkwy Selma TX 78154 300 392 327
111 1764 T-1764 Plano West Target Store (972)781-6587 2200 Dallas Pkwy Plano TX 75093 300 391 321

It aint a perfect thing, but when I searched for my area code, it came up with all the targets.

I've been using this one (http://wii.clambert.org/). I dunno how different it is.

Sixty at the Target in this area. Not planning on buying it, though.

Edit: New post, and yah. PDZ sucked, but PGR3 was 8.8, a runner-up.

What? Perfect Dark Zero SUCKED.

So Lynk, when does the Wii come out for you Aussies?

The Wii's out? Oh great.

Now all the kiddos will be running home after school to Wii.

So Lynk, when does the Wii come out for you Aussies?
December 7th. Which is 18 days from now

Some reviews are in:

Red Steel: 5.5
Status: Pass

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess: 8.8
Status: Buy (!)

Rampage: Total Destruction: 5.1
Status: Need I bother?

Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz: 8.3
Status: Buy if interested

Trauma Center: Second Opinion: 8.0
Status: Buy if interested

Excite Truck: 6.8
Status: Rental

Note: Wii Sports ATM is MIA, which has been reported to be "arsesome"

****

According to Gamestop.com, launch title scores:
(Obviously subject to change, guys!)


Reviews (http://www.gamespot.com/reviews.html?type=reviews&platform=1029&mode=all&sort=post_date&dlx_type=all&sortdir=desc&sortdir=desc)
XBOX 360 Mean: 7.7 *
Max at: 9.0 (Perfect Dark: Zero)
Crap: 6.0 (FIFA '06)
Titles <7.0: 5/19 (26%)
Exclusives**: 8/19
Exclusives <7.0: 1/8


Reviews (http://www.gamespot.com/reviews.html?type=reviews&platform=1028&tag=subnav;reviews)
PS3 Mean: 7.1
Max at: 8.6 (Resistance)
Crap: 3.9 (Gundam)
Titles <7.0: 5/13 (38%)
Exclusives**: 7/13
Exclusives <7.0: 4/7


Reviews (http://www.gamespot.com/reviews.html?type=reviews&platform=1031&tag=subnav;reviews)
Wii Mean: 7.1
Max at: 8.8 (Zelda)
Crap: 5.1 (Rampage)
Titles <7.0: 3/6 (50%)
Exclusives**: 6/6
Exclusives <7.0: 3/6


*************Tie's Launch Goodness Line-up*************


Near 1st: XBOX360

Game Pros: Higher mean, more games,
Game Cons: sh*tty ports, not very original games
Console Pluses: Graphics, cool look, Xbox Live, Live Arcade, Guide/Dashboard integration, demos, plays MP3 players, connects to PC, music at all times, friends list, achievement points, games list, game invites, chat, customizable interface, Avatars, marketplace, player feedback, can survive roll-over collisions (http://www.joystiq.com/2006/11/18/360-survives-hit-and-run-accident/)
Console Troubles: Rarity at launch, breaking consoles, scratched games, Xbox Live price, sound, smallish HDD, not enough backwards compatibility (30-40%), "PWR blok!!!!11", no in-game 1080p support

Tied 2nd: PS3

Game Pros: Resistance, graphics
Game Cons: Some lack-luster exclusives, 4 of the good games are sports games, 5 are ports [including sports games], a few of the games suck hardcore
Console Pluses:Graphics, Free multiplayer, online browsing, Linux, glossy, 99% backwards compatibility, larger HDD, 1080p support, tilt, menu button thingy
Console Troubles: Price, many of the hyped games sucked, stole Guide button and tilt sensitivity, huge size, multiplayer can't hold a candle to XBL, no mic included, can't connect to PC or MP3 players, expensive features that most consumers won't really use (paying for technology you don't need), no 1080i support,<-(?) little marketplace, no rumble, no replaceable batteries, extremely limited, Killzone 2 sham

Tied 2rd: Wii

Game Pros: Zelda FTW! *Not all reviews in yet*
Game Cons: Future looks grim *Not all reviews in yet*
Console Pluses: Controller is pretty revolutionary, cheap price, Avatars, family friendly, backwards compatibility, download old school games, market place, small size, cool look
Console Troubles: Controller is reportedly a little less awesome then expected, gimmicky feeling, wonky in some games, not as universally friendly/compatible as 360, little (or no?) real mulitplayer, controller speaker is buggy and cheap sounding (see Zelda video review), graphics really do matter- no matter which way you look at it.


More later (maybe)

**************

Err... Disclaimers?:

*=You may be thinking "They gave it higher because they had comparatively awesome graphics",
but remember, a lot of the games were Last-Gen games with new coats of paint,
not in essence completely next-gen. Kind of a leveler.

**=Console exclusive.

***=Not used, lol.

There is about 60 at the place I am going. So, I still try to be early to make sure I get it.

Gamespot sucks. Honestly, their scores for the Wii will always be on the low side because of their ranking system which averages the different scores a game get (graphics, sound, etc.).

I don't really have much interest in reviews anyways, I like to make my own mind and try the games for myself, this is the best way to know if a game is good on not. Or I try to get opinions from as many sources as possible, And generally, Gamespot either loves ot hate a game and bash it to death, calling them mediocre or abysmal. Not to mention their website is FUBAR for some reason.

[/rant, sort of]

It's a wonder why anyone actually reads Gamespot reviews..

It's a wonder why anyone actually reads Gamespot reviews..

I do because it is an easy sight to read. IGN is cluttered with garbage I could give less of a crap about, and some games just get waaaaaaaay too high of a score, like Black. Black?! You gotta be kidding me. That game is fun for about a half hour until you realize you are half way through the damn thing already and you never even reached one checkpoint. I have to read this stuff because with all the crap that has come out this month alone it is damn near impossible for me to keep up with all of it, because customers ask me day in and day out wether something is good or not. I don't always agree with Gamespot either, last year they trashed on The Punisher, and Serious Sam 2, and I adored them. However, it IS an easy sight to use to get the info I need on games to keep my customers informed because most of them are too damn lazy to use teh interweb, and the rest of them are under the impression that all we do at Gamestop is stand around and play video games all day. Silly bastards... :mad:

Edit: BTW I got my wii already FTW!!! Take THAT ya silly bastards! :naughty:

I don't like IGN either, I find both Gamespot and IGN to be cluttered and full of bull****.

Well I'm off to try to score a wii. Wish me luck :D

Well, I just came back empty handed... ;_;

I went to Best Buy, Future Shop, Toys'R'us, Wal-Mart and Zellers and they well all sold out. I guess I'll have to try and secure one this week. I should have known better and preorder one a couple months back, live and learn they say...

hey groovy why dont ya put that wii up on ebay a few days before xmas and see if ya can get a couple grand for it? :p someone made $10,000 with the PS3. :p

I now have my Wii. :D

Finally.

It's updating right now.

Well, I just came back empty handed... ;_;

I went to Best Buy, Future Shop, Toys'R'us, Wal-Mart and Zellers and they well all sold out. I guess I'll have to try and secure one this week. I should have known better and preorder one a couple months back, live and learn they say...Same here, I went to like 10 places and they were all sold out, both last night at midnight and this morning. I'd better be able to get one this week sometime, I'm pissed that I couldn't today.

Same here, I went to like 10 places and they were all sold out, both last night at midnight and this morning. I'd better be able to get one this week sometime, I'm pissed that I couldn't today.
This might sound egoist, but I'm actually glad I'm not the only one who couldn't get one, now we can be pissed together :p

Besides, I actually have plenty of things to do, so not getting a Wii right now is probably a good thing, kinda... I'd rather be playing some Zelda on my shiny new Wii ! Well as long as I get one before Christmas, I'll be a happy man.

Thid might sound egoist, but I'm glad I'm not the only one who couldn't get one, now we can be pissed together :p

I actually have plenty of things to do, so not getting a Wii right now is probably a good thing, kinda... I'd rather be playing some Zelda on my shiny new Wii !Yeah, I know what you mean. I was also kind of relieved that I wasn't the only one that didn't get my hands on one. I couldn't believe that all those places were sold out...

I don't always agree with Gamespot either, last year they trashed on The Punisher, and Serious Sam 2, and I adored them.

Yeah, I feel that, too. They gave Splinter Cell 3 a score of 8.6, when other sites gave it mid-high nines. It's also one of my most favorite games ever.

Seems like the editors can spend too much time on the bad things, not giving enough credit to the good things. But meh.

I don't like IGN either, I find both Gamespot and IGN to be cluttered and full of bull****.

You read GameSpy? XD

Edit:

Wii is beating the PS3 already.

http://www.nexgenwars.com/)

I also have my Wii. Was 111 out of 156 people :D

Now to get a wireless router.

@ tie: I don't read GameSpy either XD

To be honest, I search around the net for facts, what games have, and ignore the opinion. I still go for IGN for media though.



And of course Wii is beating PS3, there are more units to sell of Wii then there are for the PS3.

I also have my Wii. Was 111 out of 156 people :D

61 out of 60. ;)

Some reviews are in:

Dude, don't read gamespot Wii reviews. Check out their Xbox 360 reviews and xbox point spaming, but definitely not the Wii platform. The idiots can't figure out how to use the controller, and the Zelda review was a goddamn disgrace.

Not because of the "low" score, but of the bull**** in the article.
The X360 fanboy made no effort to hide his disgust " ... to save some princess named zelda"
And bash things that are zelda elements. Yeah.

^ I agree, The guy reviewing the game has bashed the very same things every other reviewers praised (game "formula", controls, etc.). It's hard to take him seriously, especially sice he also gave Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 a 10 :p

According to Gamespot, Rogue Leader got a higher score than Twilight Princess .................................................. ..............

Dude, don't read gamespot Wii reviews. Check out their Xbox 360 reviews and xbox point spaming, but definitely not the Wii platform. The idiots can't figure out how to use the controller, and the Zelda review was a goddamn disgrace.
360 only has 4 Editor's Choice awards there after a year, PDZ (undeserving), GRAW, GoW, and TESIV.


Not because of the "low" score, but of the bull**** in the article.
The X360 fanboy made no effort to hide his disgust " ... to save some princess named zelda"
And bash things that are zelda elements. Yeah.
Well, I don't think he was disgusted, and I'm pretty sure that was a joke about Zelda.

Okay, screw this, with GameRankings.com:



The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
96.8%

Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2
86.1%

Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
82.2%

Call of Duty 3
81.6%

Trauma Center: Second Opinion
81.0%

Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam
79.8%

Wii Sports
79.8%

Rayman Raving Rabbids
79.5%

Madden NFL 07
78.0%

Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz
77.4%

Excite Truck
74.0%

Sonic the Hedgehog
73.0%

SpongeBob SquarePants: Creature from the Krusty Krab
70.0%

Red Steel
65.8%

GT Pro Series
51.0%

Rampage: Total Destruction
51.0%


****

Rescore with Gamerankings.com


Reviews (http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp)
XBOX 360 Mean: 79.1% (Not counting Arcade games)
Max at: 90.1% (COD2)
Crap: 75.5% (NBA Live '06)



Reviews (http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp)
PS3 Mean: 68.2%
Max at: 88.8% (Resistance)
Crap: 34.1% (Gundam)



Reviews (http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp)
Wii Mean: 75.4%
Max at: 96.8% (Zelda)
Crap: 51% (Rampage)



http://nexgenwars.com/images/x360_forum2.jpg) (http://nexgenwars.com/)

http://nexgenwars.com/images/ps3_forum2.jpg) (http://nexgenwars.com/)

http://nexgenwars.com/images/wii_forum2.jpg) (http://nexgenwars.com/)

Okay, screw this, with GameRankings.com:


Reviews (http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp)
XBOX 360 Mean: 79.1% (Not counting Arcade games)
Max at: 90.1% (COD2)
Crap: 75.5% (NBA Live '06)




79% mean with the lowest 75.5%, now i dont know that much maths but to me that means the majority of games are .... crap.


Seriously don't read too much into review scores, its more about the information regarding overall gameplay rather than whether sound is a 8.5 or 9.

I called target to see when their next shipment was coming in and they said they probably won't get any more before Christmas...

I called target to see when their next shipment was coming in and they said they probably won't get any more before Christmas...

Future Shop here in Edmonton said they are getting 120 next week. :p

Well I hope their parent store best buy here in the US gets that many next week too, because I want one bad.

Dec 8th.. I NEED YOU NOW
Well, I don't think he was disgusted, and I'm pretty sure that was a joke about Zelda.
Try reading the article. It's bullcrap.

As shown in this vid, the fatlards have no idea how to use the thing. From several videos their disdain for the Wii is very apparant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfBrPCWb9pg)

The main bad points in the review, why it was undeserving of +9, was that it was bring zelda elements back. Not revolutionary enough. While 'Gears of War' is the damn revolution itself according to him:

Gears of War is all about ducking, covering, and blasting your enemies whenever they give you an opening.
Holy **** that's new.

You know you're dealing with idiots when the points they bash on are praised by all other sites (because it IS zelda).

You do NOT review a game of a series which promised to bring old gameplay elements back and complain they bring them back. It is as if I'd review an FPS and whine about all the shooting.

"Zelda is bad because its 'too Zelda' ". Thats what bothering us.

They can't figure out why it won't go straight, but they're sitting down. How the f*** could you even play Wii Sports Bowling like that o.0

I can't believe the amount of bullcrap they spew ><

Bah, that's okay. I'm going to get WindWaker tomorrow, I'll get Twilight Princess when it comes out for the GC.

How can u play that sitting down, he reminds me of comic book guy.

Obviously using the wiimote is a different skill to button-coordination that most gamers are used to. It seems like this douche just isnt that coordinated with anything more than his fingers and thus complains about the poor gameplay because of it.


http://nexgenwars.com/)

Wii is 10% of 360 sales in 2 days ... sweet

http://nexgenwars.com/)

Wii is 10% of 360 sales in 2 days ... sweet
Estimates, estimates.
It basically just takes time and research to estimate the numbers as closely as possible.

What I have done is gotten charts of monthly sales for the past few years, and figured out certain trends. Then I have gotten past sales data and estimated the pace at which the consoles will sell. After I have the estimate and the counter running, I just watch out for anny official announcements, and adjust anything accordingly.

The site has been up since early July, and I haven't had to adjust the sales for the Xbox 360 since then. So far my estimation method has been pretty much right on. Now for the new consoles it is a little harder since there is no previous sales data to go off of. What I do for these is research how many they are expecting to have on launch and by the end of the year. For the launch counter I get it to around the number expected, and then I slow it down to pace it so that it will reach a good estimate for the end of the year, and as usual I will adjust anything if any official word comes in.

Not really going to pay much attention to those numbers for now :p



I'm worried now. Apparantly the shop where I pre-ordered has a list, not sure which number I am now. Probably somewhere in +50 at least. Some other pals from a forum mailed to Nintendo Benelux and shop in order to get some more info on the launch.

i'm going to die if I don't get zelda at a reasonable time before my exams.