do they? they've had Windu alive in the temple attack, they have Jango on the battle for Kashyyk, they call the galactic marines "clone commander", and the actual commander, commander Baacara, "Heavy Trooper" >_> they gave Luke a green saber on Hoth (lazy buggers) and gave Aayla Secura two sabers (there must be a reason for this), even had 501st troopers on Utapu. and ofcorse, they gave the magna gaurds guns. and, they might even have the BOH. WHY would you want the BOH in a battle front game?! it's not designed for Jedi dueling! and apparently, Rebels that have LAAT's (Republic Gunships) in space. W. T. F. Yoda has his saber on Dagobah (altho that is cool, fighting as him in Degobah) somehow they have Palpatine on DStar2 WITH his red saber
let me re-phrase the title, have the dev team watched ANYTHING to do with Star Wars- ever?
so I ask you, dose the team just go on instinct, or guess work? did some one have to explain to them what Star Wars is when they signed up? or do they know more about Star Wars than we think, but are too lazy to skin a different trooper for each planet?
*edit* and I just heard that they have removed Rhen Var and Bespin, dammit they were some of my faverote maps, I love the bespin platforms map!
Well the game must be released with the Ep III DVD apparently so they have to get the game down ontime. Instead of adding all the features they can, they are perfecting what features they have now (new and old) and the new features that they miss will be added to Battlefront 3 with alot more detail and timing because it wont have to have a certain release date..
This all makes alot more sense now but hopefully it doesnt take too long to add all new features and perfect the clone trooper batallions/colours and get all the precise information down.
good point, I hope a SWBF3 is made. it would rule if you actualy had different legions, and on the galactic conquer screen you could decide where to send each legion
Wait for SWBF II, first... After, you'll see if a prequel is needed...
Totally agreed... you made the rant thread that I wanted to but I'm too afraid of upsetting the fanboys. >_>
BTW, what's BOH?
Yeah lets see how BF2 is before we start talking about a BF3.
I'm a bit dissapointed at the clone skins too, but I don't think the devs think that players will really care, they probably think that we care more about balanced classes and cool maps then if a clones armor fits the enviroment it is. Well at least they got the pilot droid right this time around, but then again now they have got the death star gunner as the imperial technician...
Sure the games not going to be exactly true to the movies, but they change stuff to make the game more playable and fun. I mean BF has always been a bit of a "what if" game anyway. What if the rebels and the empire fought on Dagobah? What if the rebels managed to win the battle of Hoth? I could understand not wanting these kind of inconsistancies in the campaign, that's supposed to reinact the movies. But in single player and multiplayer they can be a little more lenient.
and I really hope they include at least Bespin and hopefully Rhen Var in BF2
Totally agreed... you made the rant thread that I wanted to but I'm too afraid of upsetting the fanboys. >_>
Is that me? :D
If it is, you didn't upset me, I swear. :) We're having a real nice little debate in the other topic.
That being said, I am 150% against the 2 sabres thing. All the dual-wielding is just destroying what Jedi duels are supposed to be.
And on the galactic marines/commander thing : they didn't even get the right colors for the battle droids in BF1, so I suppose you're asking a bit too much.
This is all so right, it's painful to read. These are my EXACT feelings. Especially what they have done to the clones. I've said this before, but it needs to be said again. WHAT DRUGS ARE THE DEVS ON!? Don't worry about space and Jedi, make sure the game is correct first, then add the features. The devs have taken 2 steps forward then 10 backwards!
I haven't seen Jango on Kashyyyk, and i saw a Hoth screenshot and lukes saber was BLUE im sure of it.
Is that me? :D
If it is, you didn't upset me, I swear. :) We're having a real nice little debate in the other topic.
Well I don't know... I just know you're not against playable Jedi, but that doesn't make you a fanboy IMO.
Fanboys are like... the ones who are just... liek ogm tis gaem wil b r0xor fi yuo dont liek it yuo sux!11
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...Don't worry about space and Jedi, make sure the game is correct first, then add the features. The devs have taken 2 steps forward then 10 backwards!
Are you sure they aren't standing backwards, thus moving 8 steps in the correct direction?
Are you sure they aren't standing backwards, thus moving 8 steps in the correct direction?
Its more like that. Looking back at previous mistakes, then mostly fiksing them. I dont really know the difference between galactic marines and commanders, but that isnt whats importent is it?
No, its the eksperience of the game, not so much looks, but eksperience.
seems I'm not alone on this, alot of pepole are annoyed at the whole universe being messed up.
and the difference between galactic marines and commanders is big, there is only 1 commander of Baacaras type, now there will be 10 or 15 in a match >_>
and what I meant by the dual sabers, is that Aayla has 1 saber, but for some reason she has 2 sabers in SWBF2
:mad: Well if you can find a better Heavey trooper skin and Commander skin let us know. I don't really care what the clones look like as long as they can still fly a few hundred yards. But I HATE how the Magna guards are the CIS commander, thats just screwed in every way shape and form
:mad: Well if you can find a better Heavey trooper skin and Commander skin let us know.
Uh, take a Clone Trooper, and put some spare equipment on his back. Tada, instant Heavy Trooper. And uh... Commander skin would be either Cody, Bacara, Bly, etc. depending on what map you're on.
It's not that hard to figure out, so stop being an apologist.
But I HATE how the Magna guards are the CIS commander, thats just screwed in every way shape and form
No more screwed up than having Galactic Marines as the Clone Commander.
:mad: But I HATE how the Magna guards are the CIS commander, thats just screwed in every way shape and form
Sorry if I missed something, but where did you get this from? Does it also talk about the "classes" of the rebels and empire?
No more screwed up than having Galactic Marines as the Clone Commander.
?????????????????????? They are not the clone commanders!
Sorry if I missed something, but where did you get this from? Does it also talk about the "classes" of the rebels and empire?
It's in screen 3 of the PSP section on the official site. It might just be a PSP exclusive tho
No more screwed up than having Galactic Marines as the Clone Commander.
?????????????????????? They are not the clone commanders!
In SWBF2, yes, they are. Of course, that is seriously screwed up.
I don't think it's actually confirmed that the MagnaGuard is the CIS Commander, because I've also seen yellow-marked Battle Droids.
I've heard that its confirmed, plus theres that picture of a Magna gaurd with a gun. THAT is really, really ****ed up. the dev team is getting everything wrong.
personaly I thik the droid commander should have been a yellow-marked clone, or perhaps different on certain planets, like a crab droid on Utapau, but then again Crab Droids are probbably vehicles on Utapau
Let's just hope they don't make the yellow marked droid the Heavy weapon class, or somthing equally inncorrect.
In SWBF2, yes, they are. Of course, that is seriously screwed up.
I don't think it's actually confirmed that the MagnaGuard is the CIS Commander, because I've also seen yellow-marked Battle Droids.
Pilots weren't blue in BF1. The developers obviously don't look at the movies often.
...if they ever saw them, that is...
In SWBF2, yes, they are. Of course, that is seriously screwed up.
Actually the Clone sixth commander aren't not Clone Marines...look:
http://lucasarts.com/games/swbattlefrontii/indexFlash.html#GamePlay.Republic.Characters)
In SWBF2, yes, they are. Of course, that is seriously screwed up.
Actually the Clone sixth commander aren't not Clone Marines...look:
http://lucasarts.com/games/swbattlefrontii/indexFlash.html#GamePlay.Republic.Characters)
Way to prove that you have no clue what you're talking about.
http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/commanderbacara/img/movie_bg.jpg)
See those guys with Commander Bacara there? Those are the Galactic Marines. And that is what they made the Clone Commander.
In SWBF2, yes, they are. Of course, that is seriously screwed up.
I don't think it's actually confirmed that the MagnaGuard is the CIS Commander, because I've also seen yellow-marked Battle Droids.
this could be because of two things:
A: Your right and the Magna Guards are heroes.
B: They did the coloration write
The Commander classes probably change for different maps.
Magnaguards aren't heroes they are a normal unit you can see it on one of the videos posted here:
http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?t=152199)
The Commander classes probably change for different maps.
Probably not. I have seen, however, those camouflaged 41st troopers on Kashyyyk (most clones are still 501st though), and I haven't seen the Galactic Marines on Kashyyyk, so maybe at least one map has a different skin.
But it still makes NO SENSE, because the Commander should be Gree.
I do believe 2 things:
1) Changing my avatar is needed
2) Most retarded thread so far. Think about this s-l-o-w-l-y and logically. Do you realise how short the time is for BF2 to be made and what the deadline is? It's still a lot of work with balancing, map design etc, etc ad-infinitum. Also, they don't have the benefit of reading the books constantly (I'm thinking technical manuals) and watching the movies non-stop going "hey, that guy has a scorch on his shoulder plate!" At the end of the day, you, THE FANS demand a game that is going to be released within deadlines that would have Hideo Kojima commiting Hari-Kari.
Anyway, you want to wait another 2 years, and make a next-gen game based on the UT2007 engine, BF2 would get "Best game ever" award or something silly like that, but if the demo is co-inciding with the release of Ep3 on DVD, things have to get dropped along the way. It's called "games development". Pandemic are pros at making games. They'll deliver if people will stop crying that SBDs don't really have rockets etc.
just like KOTOR2 then? it really wouldn't be that hard to re-skin and add accesories to the models they have already done (they already have Baacara but have him as a "heavy trooper"! they should swtich them round possibly) it'd only take about 6 months at the most for the dev team to make the new skins+model edits and add them on, I'd rather wait a lil' longer.
SWBF2 is SWBF1 with a few addons. The modes of play are the hardest (and take the longest) to add to the game. The developers have to make the modes, then reprogram all the AI units to work with those modes. Adding one unit to each faction is not too hard. Its just adding a skin to a template and makeing a new AI. Adding new maps is not programming, its graphic design and a different department. The AI programming and testing/debuging of the entire game is what will take the longest.
Probably not. I have seen, however, those camouflaged 41st troopers on Kashyyyk (most clones are still 501st though), and I haven't seen the Galactic Marines on Kashyyyk, so maybe at least one map has a different skin.
But it still makes NO SENSE, because the Commander should be Gree.
If the commander was Gree wewould have people complaining about how Gree should be a Hero instead of a normal unit
If the commander was Gree wewould have people complaining about how Gree should be a Hero instead of a normal unit
Well then there shouldn't be a "Clone Commander" class. But having Gree, Cody, etc. is the only way for it to at least be a Clone Commander, even if yeah, it does mean that there would be multiple Gree's and such running around. But actually, if you do notice, there were several other clones on Mygeeto with the Bacara design, but only one of them was the real Bacara.
Remember, they are called "clones" for a reason!
They are not just called Clones :-P
do they? they've had Windu alive in the temple attack, they have Jango on the battle for Kashyyk, they call the galactic marines "clone commander", and the actual commander, commander Baacara, "Heavy Trooper" >_> they gave Luke a green saber on Hoth (lazy buggers) and gave Aayla Secura two sabers (there must be a reason for this), even had 501st troopers on Utapu. and ofcorse, they gave the magna gaurds guns. and, they might even have the BOH. WHY would you want the BOH in a battle front game?! it's not designed for Jedi dueling! and apparently, Rebels that have LAAT's (Republic Gunships) in space. W. T. F. Yoda has his saber on Dagobah (altho that is cool, fighting as him in Degobah) somehow they have Palpatine on DStar2 WITH his red saber
let me re-phrase the title, have the dev team watched ANYTHING to do with Star Wars- ever?
so I ask you, dose the team just go on instinct, or guess work? did some one have to explain to them what Star Wars is when they signed up? or do they know more about Star Wars than we think, but are too lazy to skin a different trooper for each planet?
*edit* and I just heard that they have removed Rhen Var and Bespin, dammit they were some of my faverote maps, I love the bespin platforms map!
The reason why all this was done was to creates a little more excitement, more realistic, and better..there is nothing wrong with what they did!
The reason why all this was done was to creates a little more excitement, more realistic, and better..there is nothing wrong with what they did!
Um.. Explain how 501 troopers on Utapau, Magna guards on the front lines, Jango on Kashyyk, Boba on Yavin IV, and the Rebels having a Republic gunship make the game more realistic. There's nothing realistic about it! The 501 was never on Utapau, Magna guards are freaking body guards, Jango died on Geonosis, Boba never fought with the Empire on Yavin, And the Rebels never had gunships!
We don't know that Boba wasn't on Yavin, and the Rebels could have got gunships from the same manufacturer.
Would someone please tell me how you all seem to be sure that Jango is on Kashyyyk because i don't believe that he is.
P.S. The MagnaGuards and the 501st look great i don't care if they aren't historically accurate.
There's a picture of Jango on Kashyyk on the official website. Yes the Clones look cool but it still isn't realistic
Anyone care to post where all this info about "weird units" is from? Although yeah, Rebel Gunship is out of character, unless it's in camo colours!
We don't know that Boba wasn't on Yavin
Except that we do know that he wasn't.
and the Rebels could have got gunships from the same manufacturer.
Sounds like a stretch to me.
Care to show where you got your information?
the "same manufacturer" is the kamino's >_> besides, even if you could get a gunship and use it in space, IT WOULD BE TOTALY USELESS! you can't use one is space! it isn't designed for it! IT CAN'T DOG FIGHT! it is designed to move like a helicopter, not really fast as needed for dog fighting! plus, the cock pit isn't sealed, the pilot would go flying out! its stupid.
the "same manufacturer" is the kamino's >_> besides, even if you could get a gunship and use it in space, IT WOULD BE TOTALY USELESS! you can't use one is space! it isn't designed for it! IT CAN'T DOG FIGHT! it is designed to move like a helicopter, not really fast as needed for dog fighting! plus, the cock pit isn't sealed, the pilot would go flying out! its stupid.
*Expects an EU freak to jump out of the shadows and smack you on the head, stating some crazy reasons on why gunships are the best space-superiority fighters*
If I were one of the Rebel's commanding officer, and I knew about the Kaminoans, I would order something else than a couple of gunships.
Anyway, having a gunship flying around in space, dodging shots from star destroyers and TIE fighters is just not right. I really hope the devs have a little more imagination.
the "same manufacturer" is the kamino's >_>
Actually it's Rothana Heavy Engineering... the Kaminoians just contracted them. :)
...plus, the cock pit isn't sealed, the pilot would go flying out! its stupid.Buckle-up. Its the law. :smash:
Explanation: joke for all the USA people whoose states require wearing seatbelts.
Care to show where you got your information?
What information? I only gave a suggestion, the only information i had was that Rothana Heavy engineering made them.
Except that we do know that he wasn't.
We never saw the Rebels on Cloud City or Mos Eisley, and when were Green lightsaber Luke and Vader ever on the same battlefield? Why question Boba Fett being playable on Yavin (which is cool) and not all the inconveivable things that happened with BF1?
P.S. Gunships in space just ain't right, the only explanation that i can think of is that they put them in because they hadn't finished the Rebel space transport that is going to be in the full game.
What information? I only gave a suggestion, the only information i had was that Rothana Heavy engineering made them.
Don't suggest things that you just made up right on the spot that you know are wrong.
We never saw the Rebels on Cloud City or Mos Eisley, and when were Green lightsaber Luke and Vader ever on the same battlefield? Why question Boba Fett being playable on Yavin (which is cool) and not all the inconveivable things that happened with BF1?
Actually I do believe in the EU there were some Alliance troops who liberated Cloud City after the Empire fell but the garrison was still there. Yeah though there wasn't any Rebel vs. Imperial battles in Mos Eisely. And like I've been saying, Luke and Vader on the battlefield are wrong, just like having Boba is.
Don't suggest things that you just made up right on the spot that you know are wrong.
You don't have to be so hostile, this is a discussion board and i was merely atemping to discuss what was being talked about, i see nothing wrong with what i said.
You don't have to be so hostile, this is a discussion board and i was merely atemping to discuss what was being talked about, i see nothing wrong with what i said.
I fail to see how you're discussing something by making up something on the spot, basically being an apologist.
This is supposed to be a place where people can talk to each other about Battlefront and Battlefront II and all you are doing is stopping me from doing that.
If you don't agree with me tell me in a civilised way.
If you don't agree with me tell me in a civilised way.
I did.
Don't suggest things that you just made up right on the spot that you know are wrong.
See?