A real deathmatch server
[^1U^7S^4A^7] ^1FULL ^7WEAPON/FORCE ^4DEATHMATCH|111ms|67.15.52.200:29070
I know what you are thinking: "omfg i mean....wtf u no??? ther r gunz hear but no jetpackz or grapple hookz???? u mean if I get kicked into pit i die??? WTF???"
I feel your pain, newbies. And i've given up trying to convert your kind. However, I would most enjoy fragging you over and over for about 30 minutes on this server, if you would be so kind as to come.
Wot wot?
I'll be seeing ya on there then :P
Nice to hear you're playing the game like it was meant to be played. I think I'll check it out, what with Thanksgiving break and all...
nice, usually if i want to play a real ffa game i end up on Blisterhouse :)
Wow, this might be worth inserting disk in drive. :)
this is the best thing sinds my dog eat all my school books :D
:p NOT!..
Nevermind. The clan that owns this server seems to have turned it into an rpg server or something. I knew it was too good to be true.
i want guns and to play ffa/tffa sometimes. and yea, i was just on that server today, and only jump was enabled and no guns, and dude was whining to me about laming him, and told me to go read the rules on his clansite...
Yuck. There are no real good ffa guns servers. I ffa
often in SO servers. Chance for me to actually use a
saber. Otherwise CTF>*
BTW bill I own you.
<3 Vico
There is more to guns in jk series than just ctf. 1v1 dm is basically dead, compared to jk2. people are scared of losing I think. The only person I can ever get to Deathmatch with me is JaX.
JKA needs a few new servers.
1) a 1v1 dm dedicated and passworded server that also doubles for tdm
2) A true DM server full weapon/force
The problem is that 99% of JKA are truly complete newbies, and are so far behind the full weapon community that they just stick with saber only. I've tried to spread it, but it always ends up in "guns are for newbs" and "omfg d00l me fag!!!!" or something. In JK2, newbies would get owned and want to be as good or better than the person who owned them. Maybe this new wave is just more spoiled or something. JKA is a weird game
It's kind of like a super moronic ancient greece where each server is like a seperate and isolated city-state. Each server wants to complete this illusion that their clan or group are super elites, and anyone who comes on their server and destroys this illusion with superior skill gets punished with admin commands or what not. This is a typical JKA experience for me on a server:
I will go on the server and kill one of the clan members. They will try to gang up on me, and I will simply rape them all. One or two of the admins will empower themselves and try to grip kick me. Since it's impossible to break the grip of an empowered ja+ newbie mod admin, I always go lightside, absorb when they grip me, and just heal over and over with the force the grip is giving me. Quite a few times at this point I hear words like "Cheater", and "WTF he has infinate health!". Usually I proceed with beating down the empowered admins for a few minutes until they give up on that and just punish me or kick me. This is not good gaming.
The server I posted is now set on saber only, no force, ffa_bespin. I went on the server and there were 6 of them standing around the pad saber dueling. Waves of horrible JK2 saber newbie flashbacks ran through my head. I ran up and started kicking them into the pit, and was punished with the words "No laming" and "Get off the pad". Disgusting.
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I hear ya Analog.
With the flood of MP FPS on the market and JKA
basically an Outcast expansion pack no one thinks
of Academy for gunplay. Most diehard fraggers are
turned off by force powers anyway.
As a diehard CTF gunner its frustrating because of
the lack of good servers (there are 1 or 2). FFA/ Duel
will go on strong for some time because for the Rpg'ers
sabers are the main attraction.
Gunners have a host of other games to play and they've
moved on for the most part.
I've seen a server that is full weapon, full Force, default Force regeneration, and default saber damage. It has only 4 slots for 1 vs. 1 deathmatch or 2 vs. 2 TDM, with voting on to change maps or gametype. It's called Old School Deathmatch-TDM 24.21.33.23
Wow, that server is amazing Amidala. Thanks for the link. For that siege server, I tried it for like 5 minutes (about the 3rd time I have ever played siege) and your members kicked me for saying that siege is slow, boring, and unbalanced. Siege is for people who suck too bad to play CTF I guess.
Not going to start a pointless siege vs. CTF debate (unless you really want to... haha), but I don't see how having guns as the primary weapon as opposed to sabers makes it unbalanced. I realize that it is something new to you, but not being skilled in it does not make it slow, boring, or unbalanced.
Hmm...you must be missing something here. I'm a full weapon CTF player named Mediablitz. I've been playing full weapon since jk2. If we would 1v1 with full weapons I would neg you. Siege is slow, boring, and unbalanced. CTF vs siege is a joke. I could get 3 CTF guys right now who probably (like me) have only played siege a few times, and beat any siege clan in the game. But if those siege clans came to CTF they would get raged beyond all belief. Siege takes no experience or skill to master. It's easy.
Originally posted by AnalogSaint
Hmm...you must be missing something here. I'm a full weapon CTF player named Mediablitz. I've been playing full weapon since jk2. If we would 1v1 with full weapons I would neg you. Siege is slow, boring, and unbalanced. CTF vs siege is a joke. I could get 3 CTF guys right now who probably (like me) have only played siege a few times, and beat any siege clan in the game. But if those siege clans came to CTF they would get raged beyond all belief. Siege takes no experience or skill to master. It's easy.
Quoted for truth. I could install this game and play with media and beat any team around.
Now don't even try to argue, as it is pointless, just ask the denizens of this forum.
Well, I can vouch for the fact that you guys talk tough. Have no idea if you can back it up or not.
But frankly, I don't really care. Your skills as a player really doesn't effect how important your opinion is.
My skills as a player reflect the going on 4 years I have been playing Jedi Knight series games. There simply isn't anything about these games I don't know. Siege is a horrible gametype. The JK series games have always had a rather wide splash radius. This was always balanced by the fact that in JK series one can jump extremely high, run extremely fast, ect. In siege everyone is reduced to a snails pace, it takes 0 skill to do anything in that gametype. If you doubt this and think you are some sort of weapons god, let me know and I will be happy to arrange a 1v1 of some sort.
Quit talking down seige:mad:
Anyway I for one would like to see more guns only servers:)
And seige severs:D
Btw I am not a weapons god but I may be interested in a ctf game with you:) Just to see how good I am.
Originally posted by TK42235
Quit talking down seige:mad:
Anyway I for one would like to see more guns only servers:)
And seige severs:D
Btw I am not a weapons god but I may be interested in a ctf game with you:) Just to see how good I am.
Siege is fun on LAN, i used to play it once in a while at LANs, 10v10 and it was very fun, but that doesn't make it hard ;).
Analog, you make me laugh. Yes, it's easy to dislike something you're not good at. Any diehard fan of the game, be it sieger or CTFer, will tell you that siege has a lot more strategic depth. It takes more to win than standing at your flag with a rocket launcher or running through the enemy's base with level 3 speed and absorb. I find it ridiculous how a single player can have 5 or 6 weapons, a plethora of force powers, and powerful dual lightsabers. I find it much more balancing when there are different classes and each player has a different role. Jedi are agile and can get to key points quickly. Techs supply and heal the team. Assaults take down objectives and spread the enemy's defence, etc.
I'm not gonna try to convince you that siege is better, because that is purely subjective, but I do consider these valid points.
You are talking out your ass. I just pointed out that anyone who has played jedi knight series for any amount of time can easily master siege in under 2 weeks. It's easy. There is very little strategic depth, and very little skill. I'd be happy to demonstrate in a match if you have a clan or something.
However, CTF is not so easy to master. If you doubt this, I could demonstrate that in a match with your clan as well. You can just put your hands to your ears and refuse to hear the truth, but siege is a dumb and easy gametype. You say there is no balance to full weapon ctf? Everyone is even in cull weapon CTF in terms of available force powers, abilities, and weapons they can use. If you can't hang in full weapon ctf then you just aren't good jk series player, frankly. You say all CTF is is level 3 absorb, speed, and rocket launcher. I could keep you from even getting near the flag with ease, and then cap on you everytime with no problem. Clearly there is more to it than just that since I can completely house you at it.
Someone wanted to see if they were any good at ctf. If you want to see how good you are go to Refresh 1 server under the ctf section
^4Re^5fresh^11-PUG|9999ms|68.216.1.2:29070
Which is currently down for some reason. When and if it is down you can visit
^3The Cereal Bowl!|76ms|67.15.17.87:29070
The best players left in the game play on those servers. The password is ctfpug. You can't just enter the game. It's a pick up game server. You have to wait until the start of the next game for the captains to pick teams. I'm sure you'll see me there sometime if you last more than 5 minutes before fleeing back to your newb server to comfort yourself.
This is an old video from the best jk2 clan, DSbr. It's quite famous amoung serious jk2 vets.
http://own-age.com/vids/video.aspx?id=386)
You cannot watch that and tell me that siege is more elite than ctf. It's really laughable. Go to one of the servers I posted or watch that vid and move onto some other argument where you aren't being a buffoon
TK, i'll be here for about an hour if you want to see what you can do
Old School Deathmatch-TDM|145ms|24.21.33.23:29070
same goes for you. i'll be on that server if you want to 1v1 full weapon
I quit playing JA a long time ago.
SWBF > JA :)
1-)I like seige I dont care how easy it is I just like it so I didnt like it when you say it is a stupid gametype you are intitled to your opinion but please make your point and keep the rest to yourself:)
2-)I am not a member of any clan
3-)I do not doubt that any gametype can be hard I would like a nice challange and I do not doubt full weapon CTF can be ballanced
4-)Simply JA+ STINKS
5-)DO NOT EQUATE ME WITH THOSE JA+ IDIOTS
6-)*Ahem* I'm TK, *Pttt*:lol:
Originally posted by AnalogSaint
My skills as a player reflect the going on 4 years I have been playing Jedi Knight series games. There simply isn't anything about these games I don't know. Siege is a horrible gametype. The JK series games have always had a rather wide splash radius. This was always balanced by the fact that in JK series one can jump extremely high, run extremely fast, ect. In siege everyone is reduced to a snails pace, it takes 0 skill to do anything in that gametype. If you doubt this and think you are some sort of weapons god, let me know and I will be happy to arrange a 1v1 of some sort.
I don't exactly see how large splash radiuses ruin siege anymore than camping the flag with a rocket launcher ruins CTF.
And again, you're slipping back into the "I'm right because I'm a better player than you" argument.
Originally posted by razorace
I don't exactly see how large splash radiuses ruin siege anymore than camping the flag with a rocket launcher ruins CTF.
And again, you're slipping back into the "I'm right because I'm a better player than you" argument.
no, he's right because he's explored the game on a different level than most people here (code monkeying doesn't count ;)) and knows exactly what he is talking about. There is a reason why he is better than you. It is because he knows the mechanics better.
He is correct that the slow movement + bunny sized hops available in siege makes the weapons far more deadly than they would be otherwise.
also, "camping" the flag with a RL, is called flag defense, and it involves much more than camping.
I like you and all, ra, but that IS talking out of your ass.
look man, if you came and played CTF with the best CTF players you wouldn't be able to come close to keeping up. Any CTF player could easily keep up with even the best Siege players after a few days practice. Siege is too simple. It's like Raven never bothered to finish it or think it all out. I'm willing to prove how stupid it is by getting 3 guys together to 3v3 you and your buddies at siege.
You know, I bet Chewbacca gets those little turd dingle-nuggets on his fur after he wipes his ass.
Not sure why I thought of that though.
Hi media, long time no see. Don't bother arguing with the people around here about game play mechanics, remember 9 out of 10 people who post here would perform oral on George Lucas for a look at the episode 3 script.
p.s.
Rumor is a fruit for pissing off the *BS* newbies and having them scrap our match.
Originally posted by Rumor
He is correct that the slow movement + bunny sized hops available in siege makes the weapons far more deadly than they would be otherwise.
More deadly doesn't translate to the gametype being stupid. While the rockets are more deadly, the rocket carrying classes have less ammo and have to rely on other classes to complete critical mission objectives.
Anyway, I agree that siege mode feels like a partially completed mode. But I don't think that's Raven fault. From the looks of things, Raven came up with the siege concept a LONG time ago but it was cut back when LEC decided to make a full game dedicated to the concept (IE Battlefront).
Since you guys feel strongly about the subject, why not do something about it? I'm sure you guys have some ideas on how to improve siege. Maybe I could impliment them at some point.
Here is my idea for a siege mod. Add two flags on oppositie ends of the map. Get rid of the classes and all of that, just let people choose whatever force powers they want. Then set up all the mechanics exactly like the regular version of the game. Then each team tries to capture the flag of the other team and then return it to their base for the score.
UJ, my ban record in jka is reaching epic proportions
Where is Kurgan newbie board admin? Kurgan give me back my other accounts that you banned
I dont think Kurgan wants to get into this mess:rolleyes:
But if it is seige classes that you think is the problem I have a mod(the seige classes wer mostly fixed by TK-8252)that makes the seige classes more ballanced and realistic and fixes alot of other things for JA not being very realistic
go here for more information
http://www.forumforfree.com/forums/index.php?mforum=realismprojectm&act=ST&f=13&t=9)
and I am on my computer until 7 am CSTime I can 1v1 now whare are you?
And I dont really care about EPIII until its out
Originally posted by FK | unnamed
You know, I bet Chewbacca gets those little turd dingle-nuggets on his fur after he wipes his ass.
Not sure why I thought of that though.
Hi media, long time no see. Don't bother arguing with the people around here about game play mechanics, remember 9 out of 10 people who post here would perform oral on George Lucas for a look at the episode 3 script.
p.s.
Rumor is a fruit for pissing off the *BS* newbies and having them scrap our match.
its not scrapped, just on hold atm. looking for a good server host because i'm not playing on their server because of #1 its a pos and #2 they are *BS*.
I private messaged you while you were online yesterday, I suppose you missed it. I also waited on that server for about an hour yesterday (I know you saw my message, you were on the forum that whole hour.). If I see you on again i'll give you another shot. Siege sucks man, none of us care about it at all. There is no way to fix it without completely changing the gametype and making all new maps.
Analog, I love how you say I'm talking out of my ass when you haven't made a single valid point. Your whole arguement can be summed up in "OMG CTF IS BETTER CAUSE I SAY SO LOL!!!! SIEGE SUCKS AND IS FOR NOOBS BECAUSE I SAID SO AND I'M BETTER THAN YOU EVEN THOUGH I DON'T KNOW YOU LOL!!!!"
Sorry, but I don't argue with idiots (or people who act idiotic... haven't decided which one you are yet...).
Siege sucks man, none of us care about it at all. There is no way to fix it without completely changing the gametype and making all new maps.That's pretty vague.
Originally posted by AnalogSaint
I private messaged you while you were online yesterday, I suppose you missed it. I also waited on that server for about an hour yesterday (I know you saw my message, you were on the forum that whole hour.). If I see you on again i'll give you another shot. Siege sucks man, none of us care about it at all. There is no way to fix it without completely changing the gametype and making all new maps.
What you mean this?
"boo" :
"do you still want to 1v1 me"
What good does that do:rolleyes:
Sorry about you waiting so long I did reply with this though
"RE: boo" :
"Yes I do but I cant now how about somware between 6 & 7 am CSTime and I have to warn you my connection is pretty bad so I can not have a bunch of players in one server"
That is the time period I will be able to play online or from 6 to 6:30 or 7:30 to 8 pm CSTime thanks for giving me another chance btw:)
And who is us? Plus I dont frankly care if "us" dosnt like it I like it and other people do to. CTF is cool to. But like I said you are entitled to your opinion, BUT so are we:)
Maybe we should set up a time and place down to the day and hour:)
It's not an opinion. CTF takes more skill and has more depth. All you can say is "I have more fun in siege". You certainly can't say it's the superior gametype in terms of complexity or time required to master, ect. But since you are so determined to have me break it down for you like a child I will. I will make the following statements and you can tell me which one you think is untrue. Then we can find out who is wrong and who is right.
1) CTF takes much more skill to be good at than siege
2) CTF is a more complex gametype than siege
3) CTF has much more depth than siege, and as a result, takes much longer to get good at or master.
4) CTF is a more solid gametype with none of the bugs and imbalance of siege, such as the horrible desert map which is riddled with cheap game ruining bugs, and the retardedly simple korriban map. The only decent map, Hoth, is also a no brainer. The winning formulas are all too easy to see. I played siege and found it an insult to my intelligence as a gamer.
TK4...seriously man. You shouldn't even be in this argument. After our 1v1 it's plain you've never played multiplayer before.
True story, I decided to play siege again today and was on this one popular server. I got up to go to the bathroom and when I came back my cat had jumped up on the computer desk. It was walking on my keyboard, rubbing up against the monitor and stuff.
When I looked at the board, my cat was OWNING ALL!!!! I let her go at it for a few minutes and she got the high score.
^ It must have been a JA+ server:lol:
Anyway you have to understand
1-)By weapons only I stupidly thought it was no saber gameplay(but I know you didnt use a saber much:))but I am terible with MP sabers
2-)My computer and connection is fairly low end
3-)Playing 1v1 made me realise how unfamiliar with the ffa maps I was I would like to play CTF with you though ffa with a bunch of players causing lag isnt my idea of 1v1;)
4-)For a long time I have played siege recently because my computer would let me before and I have become fairly good at it(the only map I really do like is Hoth the Kor map stinks)
I never said that siege was a better gamtype I do commend you on your skills and CTF can and is probably more chalanging but it doesnt make it a better gametype I think that both are challanging but I think that CTF is more than that of siege but I still have more fun playing siege somtimes
To tell you the truth I just didnt like you saying it is a crapy gametype just cuz you dont find it highly challanging other people do(not me but I enjoy playing it)you are a very good player but other people dont have 4 years under there belts:)
I would like to challange you to a real 1v1 Hoth siege with my mod wich includes enhanced more realistic more ballanced siege classes do you accept?
Once again, you offer no reasoning to any of your points, but rather give a weak and childish "X is better than Y" arguement. Once again, you throw out statements without anything to back it up. Try again.
I don't want to back up anything until I know which one of those statements you disagree with. Clearly you are an extreme newbie, but maybe we can come to an understanding.
TK, if you lag out that bad in a server with 3 people on it ffaing, there is no way you can play ctf. I'm not going to talk **** to you because it's obvious you havn't played more than 10 hours of multiplayer Jedi knight series. I can only say that you have no chance against me in this game at your current experience level. You really have no business in this discussion. But then again, neither does Sircursealot and that other guy. Neither of them have a clue either.