*waits for Redwing...*

I'm here! Where's the battle? http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/biggrin.gif)

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At last we will have revenge.

Hmmmmm... we'll have to get organised first don't we... oh wellz...

Okay first we'll have to figure out a story... Hmmmmmmm... I'll layout a rough idea first...

Three worlds... (names unknown) are at war with each other. 1 is New Republic, another with the Empire and the other is an inderpendant world. They are fighting over a fourth planet that has... er haven't figured that part out yet... and so anywayz, the tension gets so bad that the Empire has called in a fleet into the system, same with the inderpendent world who has hired many mercenaries and bounty hunters and yada, yada, yada... Now of course the Republic will end up arriving and that's where we begin with the huge battle thingy...

Hmmmmm. *thinking*

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How about the third world is Hutt-controlled. The new planet has some kind of naturally occuring element that has some military value maybe? ANd what time does this take place? What kind of technology is around? Let's think of something CRAZY!! http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/biggrin.gif) http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/biggrin.gif)

Hmmmm, we need rules as well. We'll see what develops.

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Ah! A new alien technology has been discovered! But the people who have gone down to the planets surface haven't been heard from since! All three sides don't know what kind of technology it may be... it may be the most powerful weapon in the galaxy or just a new type of blender... Howz that?

Okay I have figured out my character. I have decided to go with the New Republic, but I'm not going to lead the task force, I'm only going to be the Commander of a squad of E-Wings called Phoenix Squadron. I'm human, male, age... 26... yada, yada...

How bout the world holds the secret to the unknown regions, like in the novel....which one was it again?

Anyways, the third world world belongs to Supreme Warlord Zanghi...me!

Your E-wings are no match for my SSD.
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"We will crush the Rebellion in one swift stroke."

[This message has been edited by Tie Guy (edited July 24, 2001).]

We need rules. Like limits on fleets! (This isn't a Messeges episode for crying out loud!) http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/biggrin.gif) What is the new technology? Where will the action take place?

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It's a paralel universe... of course... so the technology is upto when the E-Wing was first released. The action will take place at a part of space called the Delmarri Nebula which is inbetween the four systems... oh and another thing, the nebula is very volatile so any explosions that occur in it will be 5 times the norms... hehe http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/biggrin.gif) There is an are ancient defense system around the unknown planet but the technology is so strange that their attacks can go through any1's shields. The only safe way to the planet is through the nebula.... but more on that later...

The limits with fleet sizes... I will permit:

1 Super capital ship
8 Capital ships
20 Support ships
The fighters may vary depending on strength. Example if your fleet of starfighters is made up of TIE Fighters then you can have say 1000 compared to a fleet made up of TIE Defenders which is about 200... The main character (us) may take a lot to kill but other minor characters (played by no one) will die pretty easily...

Here's what you can't do...

You can't...
- Bring in any type of reinforcements whether its a single TIE Defender or another Death Star.
- Retreat. this is a fight to the very end!
- Defect to other sides or team up with your adversary.
- ... well I'll think of more later...

Got it?...

The defecting thing...I think we should allow that otherwise this may never end http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/wink.gif) (I say this from experience---all the Messeges episodes ended with a defection or a surrender http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/biggrin.gif) )

I'd say the upper limit to starfighter strength would be a TIE Defender. NO SUN CRUSHERS!!!

What kinds of starfighters should we have? Should there b a limit to the number of types allowed?

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Agreed... defections and surrenders are allowed... I will allow the crappest starfighter out there to things like E-Wings and TIE Defenders... no cloaking devises at all! No tractor beams! This is just gonna be a laser, torp and missile starfighter battle theme going!

Good, then shall we prepare our fleets?

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"We will crush the Rebellion in one swift stroke."

I just thought that we should specify exactly what we have before we start.

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"We will crush the Rebellion in one swift stroke."

Yes that would be a good idea, of course. http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/smile.gif)

We need a limit on special technology.

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Yeah, nothing invincle. And no foreign technology, only existing stuff.

Shall we start?

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"We will crush the Rebellion in one swift stroke."

Okay the Republic fleet will consist of 1 MC90 (Flagship) 2 MC80b's, 2 MC80s, 4 Dreadnaughts and 6 Blockade Runners... I'll add up how many fighters there are relative to the amount the capital ships can hold... oh I almost forgot about the 15 Assault Shuttles... http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/biggrin.gif) Okay that is well under the limit now someone who is willing to be part of the Empire can create their fleet... same with the Hutts...

[This message has been edited by Lynk Former (edited July 26, 2001).]

I'm no Hutt. The Third world belongs to Supreme Warlord Zanghi, me. I shall now crush you and all other warlords with my fleet. Here it comes:

1 SSD Nightshadow
2 Imp II Star Destroyers
2 Star Destroyers
2 Victory Class Star Destroyer
1 Carrack Class Crusier
1 Escort Carrier
1 Strike Crusier

All Ships are fitted with Standard TIE/ln's and TIE interceptor. Ther is also 1 elite squadron of TIE Defenders.

That should be more than enough to crush you.

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"We will crush the Rebellion in one swift stroke."

gotta put together my fleet, hold on http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/biggrin.gif)

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I'm holding...

Dang it! Lynk's here! Now I actually have to do it tonight! http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/biggrin.gif)

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Note: Besides the other fleet rules, we need craft for utility purposes---landing craft, shuttles, transports etc. I'd say a good limit would be 40 msc transport-type craft. They don't really fall into the support ships category since they're so small.


Anyway, my fleet:

<u>Fighters</u>
7 squadron Dodonna/Blissex (Incom production model) RZ-3 A-Wing Mark II class fighter (84)
6 squadron Slayn and Korpil "Blade" B-Wing class fighter (72)
6 squadron FreiTek TX-75-A E-Wing class fighter (72)
5 squadron Cygnus Alpha class Xg-1 Assault Gunboat (60)
5 squadron Cygnus Beta class Missile Boat (60)
3 squadron Incom I-7 Howlrunner class fighter (36)
2 squadron Sorosuub Preybird Mark II class fighter (24)
4 squadron Sienar Fleet Systems GAT-12h Skipray class Blastboat (48)
3 squadron Sienar Fleet Systems TIE Avenger class fighter (36)
4 squadron Sienar Fleet Systems TIE Defender class fighter (48)
2 squadron Sienar Fleet Systems TIE Interceptor class fighter (24)
7 squadron Incom T-65c A2 X-Wing class fighter (84)
5 squadron Koensayr BTL-S3 Y-Wing class fighter (60)
4 squadron Sienar Fleet Systems Scimitar class Mark II Assault Bombers (48)

<u>Transpots</u>
5 Telgorn Corp. Assault Shuttle
10 Telgorn Corp. ATR-6 Assault Transport
5 Sienar Fleet Systems/ Cygnus Sentinel class Landing Craft
10 Sienar Fleet Systems T-4a Lambda class Shuttle
10 Gallofree Yards Rebel class Medium Transport

<u>Support Cruisers</u>

2 Sienar Fleet Systems/ Kuat Drive Yards Dominator class interdictor
2 Rendili Stardrive Dreadnaught Heavy Cruiser
5 Lancer class Frigates
1 Kuat Drive Yards Nebulon-B class frigate
6 Loronar Corp. Strike class Cruiser
4 Damorian Manufacturing Carrack class light cruiser

<u>Capital Ships</u>

2 Rendili Stardrive Rebel class Assault Frigate
2 Imperial class Mark I Star Destroyer
2 Imperial class Mark II Star Destroyer
2 Mon Cal MC-75 Barracuda class cruiser
2 Kuat Drive Yards Victory class Mark II Star Destroyer

<u>Flagship</u>

1 Byss Naval Yards Eclipse-II class Star Destroyer

PS we also need limits for ground craft like AT-Sts or something...should be a loose limit, just to keep someone from saying "My task force of 2000 AT-ATs lands and destroys your entire army, you are dead"


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EDIT: Ignore this fleet, I need the Imp fleet http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/biggrin.gif)

[This message has been edited by Redwing (edited July 30, 2001).]

Okay since you decided to go technical with this then I better get down to business too... I'll post my final fleet listings soon...

btw Red... which side are you on???? You've got fighters and warships from every corner of the galaxy!!! Come on... if you're the empire then still with imperial ships... if freelance then pick smaller ships...!!!

My fleet will be New Republic... so it'll only contain ships that the Republic and its allies will use...

FLAGSHIP:
1 Mon Calamari MC90 Star Cruiser (Heavily Modified)

CAPITAL SHIPS:
1 Kuat Drive Yards Super Star Destroyer
2 Mon Calamari MC80B Star Cruiser
2 Mon Calamari MC80 Star Cruiser
2 Kuat Drive Yards Imperial Star Destroyer Mark II
2 Kuat Drive Yards Imperial Star Destroyer Mark I

SUPPORT SHIPS:
5 Rendili StarDrive Dreadnaught Heavy Cruiser
4 Hapan Battle Dragon (Remember the Hapes are part of the Republic)
5 Hapan Nova Battle Cruiser
4 Lancer Frigates
2 Kuat Drive Yards Nebulon-B Frigate
4 Corellian Engineering Corporation Corvette

TRANSPORTS:
10 Siener Fleet Systems/Cygnus Spaceworks Sentinel class Landing Craft
10 Incom Y-4 Transport
10 Siener Fleet Systems Lambda class Shuttle
10 Gallofree Yards Medium Transports

FIGHTERS:
14 squadron FreiTek, Inc. E-Wing Starfighter (168)
14 squadron Incom Corporation T-65AC4 X-Wing Space Superiority Fighter (168)
13 squadron Alliance A-Wing Fighter (156)
12 squadron Kuat Drive Yards A-9 Vigilance Interceptor (144)
6 Hapan Cluster Miy'til Fighter (72)
6 squadron Slayn & Korpil B-Wing (72)
6 squadron Koensayr BTL-S3 Y-Wing Attack Starfighter (72)

http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/biggrin.gif) http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/biggrin.gif) http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/biggrin.gif) Well that's my fleet (excluding ground vehicles). I put a lot of thought when constructing it too! If you will notice the New Republic has access to all of the ships above... Yes the Super Star Destroyer is there because if you will remember they captured some didn't they... you know which one I'm talking about http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/wink.gif) ... heheh.... but anywayz. I have done my fleet and I think Redwing that it's time you rethought your fleet a little!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I forgot my support ships, but i'm not going techincal:

3 Carrack Class Crusiers
3 Lancer Frigates
6 Assault Transports
8 additional Victory Star Destroyers
3 more Strike Crusiers

And Fighters:

1 wing of TIE/ln
1 Wing of TIE Interceptors
3 Squadrons of Tie Bombers
12 Squadrons of TIE Advanced
12 Squadrons of TIE Defenders


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"We will crush the Rebellion in one swift stroke."

wow. This 'battle' Of all of yours sounds really cool.

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"Imperial troops have entered the base!!! Imperial troops have entered the base..." *static*

Lynk! You broke your own rules! You have one extra capship and four extra support ships than allowed. http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/biggrin.gif)

As for my fleet, it's Rebel. All of the ships are Rebel fighters or Imperial fighters, as with the dissolving of the Empire the New Republic would have got a lot of Imperial craft. There's no "freelance" craft. All were (at least originally) either Rebel or Imperial.

Of course, the Eclipse-II makes no sense, but I wanted a unique flagship, and every other "super" design was taken. http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/biggrin.gif)

Then again, your MC80bs make no sense, as only one was ever made. http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/biggrin.gif)

<u>Rebel</u>
Dodonna/Blissex (Incom production model) RZ-3 A-Wing Mark II class fighter
Slayn and Korpil "Blade" B-Wing class fighter
FreiTek TX-75-A E-Wing class fighter
Incom T-65c A2 X-Wing class fighter
Koensayr BTL-S3 Y-Wing class fighter
Gallofree Yards Rebel class Medium Transport
Rendili Stardrive Rebel class Assault Frigate
Mon Cal MC-75 Barracuda class cruiser

<u>Imperial</u>
Cygnus Alpha class Xg-1 Assault Gunboat
Cygnus Beta class Missile Boat
Incom I-7 Howlrunner class fighter
Sorosuub Preybird Mark II class fighter
Sienar Fleet Systems GAT-12h Skipray class Blastboat
Sienar Fleet Systems TIE Avenger class fighter
Sienar Fleet Systems TIE Defender class fighter
Sienar Fleet Systems TIE Interceptor class fighter
Sienar Fleet Systems Scimitar class Mark II Assault Bombers
Telgorn Corp. Assault Shuttle
Telgorn Corp. ATR-6 Assault Transport
Sienar Fleet Systems/ Cygnus Sentinel class Landing Craft
Sienar Fleet Systems T-4a Lambda class Shuttle
Sienar Fleet Systems/ Kuat Drive Yards Dominator class Interdictor
Lancer class Frigates
Lancer class Frigates
Loronar Corp. Strike class Cruiser
Damorian Manufacturing Carrack class light cruiser
Imperial class Mark I Star Destroyer
Imperial class Mark II Star Destroyer
Kuat Drive Yards Victory class Mark II Star Destroyer
Byss Naval Yards Eclipse-II class Star Destroyer

<u>Both Rebel and Imperial</u>
Rendili Stardrive Dreadnaught Heavy Cruiser
Kuat Drive Yards Nebulon-B class frigate

See what I mean?

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At last we will have revenge.

So... I'm confused... which side are you on?...

Let's just go! *fleet comes out of hyperspace*

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"We will crush the Rebellion in one swift stroke."

I said I was REBEL!!! http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/tongue.gif)

Who's allied with whom?

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Hey, I'm New Republic pal! You go Imperial! And Tie Guy can be the other side...!!!

Dang, I wasn't paying attention. So I'm Imperial, eh? Dang. Time to change my fleet! http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/biggrin.gif)

Aw well, it'll be fun being the bad guy http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/biggrin.gif)

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Tie Guy, can I be the commander of one of your Victory Class Star Destroyers?
Or some other ship in your fleet I don't care http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/biggrin.gif)
(Since I think I'm too late to post a fleet of my own. Correct me if i'm wrong.)

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"Imperial troops have entered the base!!! Imperial troops have entered the base..." *static*

You're right...for once http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/tongue.gif)

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Hmmmm I'll need a commander for my fleet since I'm just a commander of Phoenix Squadron (An E-Wing squad)... who will be the commander of the New Republic fleet? (I want Red to be an Imp cause I know that it'll be more interesting if we were on opposite sides... hehehe http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/biggrin.gif) )

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One thing, Lynk, you need to take off the extra ships or expand your limits http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/biggrin.gif)

Now presenting the Imperial fleet:

<u>Fighters</u>
4 squadron Sienar Fleet Systems TIE Bomber
4 squadron Sienar Fleet Systems TIE V-38 Phantom class fighter
1 squadron Sienar Fleet Systems TIE Boarding Craft
3 squadron Sienar Fleet Systems Toscan class fighter
5 squadron Kuat Drive Yards A-9 Vigilance Mark II class fighter
7 squadron Cygnus Alpha class Xg-1 Assault Gunboat
7 squadron Cygnus Beta class Missile Boat
5 squadron Incom I-7 Howlrunner class fighter
2 squadron Sorosuub Preybird Mark II class fighter
5 squadron Sienar Fleet Systems GAT-12h Skipray class Blastboat
5 squadron Sienar Fleet Systems TIE Avenger class fighter
6 squadron Sienar Fleet Systems TIE Defender class fighter
3 squadron Sienar Fleet Systems TIE Interceptor class fighter
5 squadron Sienar Fleet Systems Scimitar class Mark II Assault Bombers

<u>Transpots</u>
5 Telgorn Corp. Assault Shuttle
10 Telgorn Corp. ATR-6 Assault Transport
5 Sienar Fleet Systems/ Cygnus Sentinel class Landing Craft
10 Sienar Fleet Systems T-4a Lambda class Shuttle
10 Telgorn Corp. ETR-3 Beta Class Escort Transport

<u>Support Cruisers</u>

4 Immobilizer-418 class Interdictor
2 Sienar Fleet Systems/ Kuat Drive Yards Dominator class interdictor
2 Rendili Stardrive Dreadnaught Heavy Cruiser
5 Lancer class Frigates
1 Kuat Drive Yards Nebulon-B class frigate
6 Loronar Corp. Strike class Cruiser
4 Damorian Manufacturing Carrack class light cruiser

<u>Capital Ships</u>

2 Imperial class Mark I Star Destroyer
2 Imperial class Mark II Star Destroyer
2 Kuat Drive Yards Victory class Mark I Star Destroyer
2 Kuat Drive Yards Victory class Mark II Star Destroyer

<u>Flagship</u>

1 Byss Naval Yards Eclipse-III class Star Destroyer

You Rebel scum. The New Empire will utterly destroy you! And that "warlord" Hutt as well! And with this new technology we are coming to acquire, the galaxy will tremble at the might of the glorious Empire once again!

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[This message has been edited by Redwing (edited August 02, 2001).]

FLAGSHIP:
1 Mon Calamari MC90 Star Cruiser (Heavily Modified)

CAPITAL SHIPS:
1 Kuat Drive Yards Super Star Destroyer
2 Mon Calamari MC80B Star Cruiser
1 Mon Calamari MC80 Star Cruiser
2 Kuat Drive Yards Imperial Star Destroyer Mark II
2 Kuat Drive Yards Imperial Star Destroyer Mark I

SUPPORT SHIPS:
5 Rendili StarDrive Dreadnaught Heavy Cruiser
4 Hapan Battle Dragon (Remember the Hapes are part of the Republic)
5 Hapan Nova Battle Cruiser
4 Lancer Frigates
2 Kuat Drive Yards Nebulon-B Frigate

TRANSPORTS:
10 Siener Fleet Systems/Cygnus Spaceworks Sentinel class Landing Craft
10 Incom Y-4 Transport
10 Siener Fleet Systems Lambda class Shuttle
10 Gallofree Yards Medium Transports

FIGHTERS:
14 squadron FreiTek, Inc. E-Wing Starfighter (168)
14 squadron Incom Corporation T-65AC4 X-Wing Space Superiority Fighter (168)
13 squadron Alliance A-Wing Fighter (156)
12 squadron Kuat Drive Yards A-9 Vigilance Interceptor (144)
6 Hapan Cluster Miy'til Fighter (72)
6 squadron Slayn & Korpil B-Wing (72)
6 squadron Koensayr BTL-S3 Y-Wing Attack Starfighter (72)

That better?

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Okay now that eveything is set I suggest we get started... oh wait... *waits for Tie Guys confirmation if TK can join in...*

Originally posted by TK-421:
Tie Guy, can I be the commander of one of your Victory Class Star Destroyers?
Or some other ship in your fleet I don't care http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/biggrin.gif)
(Since I think I'm too late to post a fleet of my own. Correct me if i'm wrong.)


well since tie guy ignored me can I be a commmander of Your fleet,Lynk?


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"Imperial troops have entered the base!!! Imperial troops have entered the base..." *static*

Sorry, you can be the captain of my flagship, nighthadows. All you have to do is execute my orders.

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Ok.......I don't care. I'll obey your orders. http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/biggrin.gif)

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"I am altering our deal. Pray I do not alter it further."
Darth Vader,Cloud City.

SO....is this battle getting underway or will it take another week? http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/tongue.gif) http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/biggrin.gif)

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"I am altering our deal. Pray I do not alter it further."
Darth Vader,Cloud City.

No one knows.

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"We will crush the Rebellion in one swift stroke."

thats not the answer I was looking for http://www.roguesquadron.net/forums/biggrin.gif)

Okay... guess I'll have to play two roles...

Lynk Former: Commander of Phoenix Squadron
and
Alec Kendrix: General and commander of the New Republic fleet...

THE BATTLE STARTS IN THE "BATTLE OF THE TITANS" TOPIC!!!!!!!!!!!

Now we will see who will win... Republic... Imperail... or the Warlords...

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I am Grand Admiral Damir De'Chulat of the first Eclipse-III class Command Ship, the Palpatine's Vengeance. The Eclipse-III cleverly combines many of the features found in the Eclipse, Eclipse-II, and Executor-class command ships. It is as almost as large as the Eclipse-II (smaller than the Eclipse-I, and faster) but still carrries much of the same weaponry; ion and turbolaser batteries, gravity well projectors, advanced hull and shields. Unlike its predecessors the Eclipse-III relies heavily on droid technology to save manpower.

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At last we will reveal ourselves to the Jedi.
At last we will have revenge.