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Sam and Max 2 - cancelled

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 Brushguy
03-05-2004, 7:49 PM
#101
I will gladly join this movement, but what are we going to do first? I'm not afraid of Lucasarts if I can get away with a 6-part Monkey Island fangame 90% as good as CMI. I've done everything so far.

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I've signed the petition 20 times (which now counts 4112 sigs).

I've e-mailed twice.

I've sent a written letter.

I've pledged to myself to hide all Star Wars / Lucasarts games behind the shelves at the supermarket.

Finally, I also pledged that if I lived in San Rafael, I would not be afraid to march inside the building and complain.

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I've looked at Steve Purcell's comment on this disaster (news on samandmax.net and mixnmojo.com ). He was involved on this project, so if there was a definite reason for cancelling, he would know. Somebody should e-mail to Mike Stemmle, the director, because this might be an April Fool's joke. Stemmle's a big joker, and if this gem really was cancelled, they'd give a better reason than "underlying economic differences," or whatever they said.

Oh man, if it is a joke, I will go outside and dance in the street in my underwear, yelling with joy.
 Skinkie
03-05-2004, 8:32 PM
#102
Yeah, it's a publicity stunt, I'm sure. <-SARCASM If you go to minmojo.com you can read what Steve Purcell himself has to say about it.
 Cerno
03-05-2004, 9:49 PM
#103
Originally posted by toenail1
hmmm, that really wasnt a eulogy, a eulogy is speaking good of somebody (doesnt have to be when their dead), that was more of a "lucasarts you suck you SOBS" kind of speech

Well, as a non-native English speaker I had to look up the word I was searching for. I was looking for the word used to describe a speech at a funeral, because that was the general direction I wanted to take with the mail.

I wanted to express my feelings that with this decision LucasArts has died for many many fans and I wanted to talk about what made the company great when it was still alive. Just like in a real funeral eulogy (is this even the correct term?)

Towards the end though I kind of lost my train of thought and started rambling. Oh well, I don't think it came across as harsh as you put it. :/
 samandmaxfiend
03-05-2004, 9:59 PM
#104
steve purcell is extremely disappointed with the decision..he said the game was awesome..keep getting people to sign the petition..keep e-mailing them..do it for steve! we gotta have his back for all the joy and laughs hes given us...

and the guy who lives near lucasarts..just go and picket with your friends..even if its just you guys..lucasarts will kinda realise .. "hey this game actually meant something 2 people so that some1 has actually bothered to picket" ring the local news station n try 2 get em down there 2,... we just gotta keep sending them messages whatever way we can
 toenail1
03-05-2004, 10:45 PM
#105
Well, as a non-native English speaker

ah, i see



but i wanted it to be harsher, i was just saying that a eulogy would be JUST about sam and max, not lucasarts, but while you were going for it, you shouldve stuck it to those (hmmm whats a good word that wont get me banned...)
 Pork_Soda
03-05-2004, 10:57 PM
#106
Lucas Arts had better release another statement soon 'cause if they don't, it'll look even more gutless then they do now. They NEED to mention something else, instead of just ignoring us.
 jade wizard
03-06-2004, 12:17 AM
#107
I don't understand? Is it a money thing or something. What am I saying, of course it is. I used to be about the the games man, they were what really matered. Then the fans, I hope thy haven't forgotten us. Sigh, they just don't get the message, WE NEED THIS GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!
 Sam&Max4ever
03-06-2004, 1:08 AM
#108
I donґt think the lousy Star Wars game went so well, thats why they cancel all these games now, Armed and Dangerous didnґt go so well either, i actually think they ARE going bankrupt... And Sam & Max would be their saviour, they just donґt know it :(

I also wrote emails, signed petitions, donґt think it will help, but if we donґt rise up and yell we wont be heard, so keep yelling, and REALLY boycot future releases, unless S&M2 are released.

I pray for that it is an Aprils fool...
 Alia
03-06-2004, 1:13 AM
#109
It's March, and major companies don't joke about this kind of crap.
 SyntheticGerbil
03-06-2004, 1:33 AM
#110
DO YOU SEE WHY ONLINE GARBAGE PROTESTS DO NOT WORK?

BECAUSE STUPID BASTARD CHILDREN HAVE TENDENCIES TO DO THINGS LIKE, OH LET'S SAY... SIGN THE PETITION TWENTY TIMES!
 Udvarnoky
03-06-2004, 1:56 AM
#111
Now that's just silly. Who would think of doing something so dishonest?
 toenail1
03-06-2004, 2:00 AM
#112
TAKE THE PETITIONS AND THE "HATE" EMAIL SERIOUSLY!! SIGN YOUR REAL NAME AND ONLY DO IT ONCE!! USE PROPER GRAMMAR AND SPELLING!! IF SOME PEOPLE DO THE OPPOSITE, THEY'LL THINK WE'RE ALL BOCES AND THEY WON'T TAKE US SERIOUSLY
 Skinkie
03-06-2004, 4:04 AM
#113
Boces? You mean ponces perhaps?
 braindead200
03-06-2004, 4:08 AM
#114
:mad: WHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAT how could they do this to us,why why,i am soooo p*ssed i could scream and shout,well im not gonna put up a squel to one of the most best defining classic games go to waste.we have to do somethin about it

im thinking of startin a sam and max 2 vs lucasarts campaingn if anybody wants to join me e-mail me and we'll do a meeting of what we can do,whos gonna stand up and fight???? if we do this we shall be the heroes of the squel to sam and max and lucas arts.if lucas arts dont go back in production with the game i will hate them FOREVER.im even hoping of a day of the tencle squel,if they decide to do that and then cancell it i will be super pissed.

anyway this is about sam and max anybody wanna join my campaign on what we can do to get the game back in production e-mail me and youll be a member
 samandmaxfiend
03-06-2004, 4:17 AM
#115
braindead u me and brushguy should be the beginning of the team
 Bob McDob
03-06-2004, 7:25 AM
#116
Originally posted by Alia
It's March, and major companies don't joke about this kind of crap.

I'm also pretty sure March is the end of the fiscal year where projects get evaluated.
 Fred
03-06-2004, 7:45 AM
#117
Originally posted by braindead200
im thinking of startin a sam and max 2 vs lucasarts campaingn if anybody wants to join me e-mail me and we'll do a meeting of what we can do,whos gonna stand up and fight????
http://wwhs.fangames.co.uk/)
 Sam&Max4ever
03-06-2004, 8:52 AM
#118
http://wwhs.fangames.co.uk/)

The coolest Page ever, thanx for creating it :)

Just say no.... To LucasArts games.
 Brushguy
03-06-2004, 12:52 PM
#119
Yeah, the comic is a broken image, so...

I removed the comics because I was sick and tired of SyntheticGerbil's constant insults towards them, and I paraphrase, "the word is they cancelled the game because of your comics." :mad: But I forgive you. :D

braindead u me and brushguy should be the beginning of the team

I will gladly lead this movement, but again, I ask, what are we going to do first?

And that petition is way over 5000 signs. How much are they aiming for, anyway?
 SyntheticGerbil
03-06-2004, 2:26 PM
#120
More than half a mil, I'm sure.

Ponce De Leon?

Anyways, let's all change this thread into a discussion about the music for the Kyrandia games. Find the MIDI's and rip the true music from the third one. Be in fantasy bliss.

See the theme that opens up in the first one pretty much covers up any faults you may find in the game. The music sets the setting best, on your set, go.

The music wasn't as spectacular in the second game, but I found it kind of suting most of the time. And it had better tunes than the first at certain parts.

Now the third game takes the cake and writes the F word on it in tacky green icing. See the game is kind of choppy in interface and figuring out. I absolutely hate the Isle of Cats and the music accompanied there. But other than that I found it a wonderful whimsical whopping wolly mammoth of a game. I hear dogs can eat wolly mammoth meat and not die because it was still frozen cryogenically like a super ice box from the past. The end part of Malcolm's Revenge was the most atmospheric I've ever seen. Now if only someone could tell me how to get all 911 points in that game. I don't think it's possible.
 Skinkie
03-06-2004, 4:19 PM
#121
I never played the third one, and got only mildly far into the first two? Am I missing out? Is my life incomplete?

Maybe this (http://www.cheatzone.com/display.asp?SeqNo=1436) can tell you how to get all the points. Maybe not.
 Brushguy
03-06-2004, 5:54 PM
#122
I am starting a site called "Save Sam and Max 2." It will provide links to the petitions, e-mail addresses, letter addresses, etc.
 hi8is
03-06-2004, 6:15 PM
#123
just heard the news today
this is the most ****ed up thing ive heard in the gaming comunity EVER... they cant do this... blah... ive sent a few emails to all adress... signed the petition once... sent the petition address to my friends.... its almost a 6,000 right now
 SyntheticGerbil
03-06-2004, 7:45 PM
#124
No that list doesn't help. I don't think it's possible to get all of the points. I think it's supposed to be a joke, because you get "MacGyver" points and "Entrepeneur" points or maybe even "Social Deviant" points.

Still I want all 911 of them!
 dcroeser
03-06-2004, 7:49 PM
#125
Thought you guys might find this interesting even though it was 2002. Its a poll on the LucasArts website. Note the leading genre...

http://www.lucasarts.com/share/webapps/instantpoll/instantpollresults?category=LEC1&pollId=32770)
 Live Undead
03-06-2004, 8:38 PM
#126
I can't bare to visit that site anymore... its too upsetting... "which of the following LucasArts games will you be playing over the holidays?" Please. I feel sick inside :eek:
 jade wizard
03-06-2004, 8:53 PM
#127
Hey, I have a copy of the original Sam and max music, I'll let you rip that, if I cann email it to you.
 samandmaxfiend
03-06-2004, 10:35 PM
#128
hey brushguy if u need any help let me know..when that petition gets 2 10,000 u should print it off and send it to lucasarts
 braindead200
03-06-2004, 11:04 PM
#129
samandmaxfiens and brushguy welcome to the team i really appreciate it
 braindead200
03-06-2004, 11:10 PM
#130
brushguy is it possible if we can have our campaign at the save sam and max 2 site?
 braindead200
03-06-2004, 11:34 PM
#131
freddy,that is one hell of a website,i will say yes to a lucasarts again until they realese sam and max 2,freddy how would you like to join my campaign along with brushguy and samandmax fiend,i know your standing up and fighting im proud of that,but someone like you would be awesome to have on our team,so how bout it?
 psbales
03-07-2004, 12:10 AM
#132
Hey all,

Loooong time lurker, just registered today. I honestly don't think that it'll help any, but there's a LucasArts support forum over here:

http://forums.lucasarts.com/forum.jspa?forumID=13&start=0)

...where there is a small but growing thread about S&M2. The thread will most likely be deleted come Monday morning, but official LucasArts folks are bound to at least read some of it, or at a minimum, notice the activity on the board (the entire forum is close to dead). I'm still hoping beyond hope that with enough begging, whining, and most importantly, people promising to never purchase another LucasArts product again that they will take notice.

*sigh*

I really feel like that a close friend died...
 Pork_Soda
03-07-2004, 12:31 AM
#133
Braindead200, like I've alreayd said, I'll join this whatever you call it, I REALLY want Sam & Max back, and I'll do everything in my power to get it back.
 Steve McGoiter
03-07-2004, 12:48 AM
#134
2 Sam and Max petitions are in the top ten over at www.petitiononline.com) and their in 2nd and 3rd place. Keep signing! Sign using different names as much as you want, this is definitely making an impact if these are in the top 10.
Lucas Arts has been working on this game for years, they got so far and then they just cancel it. Or "stop production" They can't just get rid of that stuff they worked so hard on. I still have some hope. But I agree that I wont buy another Lucas Arts game unless it's a new adventure game, most preferably Sam and Max 2. KEEP ON FIGHTING EVERYBODY!! don't give up, I know I wont.
 Brushguy
03-07-2004, 12:52 AM
#135
brushguy is it possible if we can have our campaign at the save sam and max 2 site?

Braindead200, like I've alreayd said, I'll join this whatever you call it, I REALLY want Sam & Max back, and I'll do everything in my power to get it back.

Sure, all things that will help bring Sam and Max 2 back will help my site. Any suggestions, ideas, e-mail addresses (besides the 3 we already have) or pictures (nothing offensive though) are welcome. I was going to do the site today, but I was busy with other stuff. I promise to have it up soon.

But the main question is, WHAT CAN WE DO BESIDES SEND IRRITATING MAIL AND VENT OURSELVES ON THE PUBLIC INTERNET? Please, suggestions are MORE than welcome.

I guess we could start more and more sites like WWHS is now, and maybe the thickos at LEC would get the picture...

P.S. Stop trying to change the topic, SyntheticGerbil.
 braindead200
03-07-2004, 1:13 AM
#136
thanks for lettin us have the campaign there,and welcome to the team pork_soda
 Jester
03-07-2004, 1:18 AM
#137
For now, there's a thread at the new lucas support forums (http://forums.lucasarts.com/thread.jspa?threadID=60&start=15&tstart=0) concerning Sam and Max 2. They'll almost certainly delete it, and might not take notice, but feel encouraged to use it as yet another means to convey your thoughts/pleadings/disgust.
 psbales
03-07-2004, 2:02 AM
#138
Hey,

The website www.fark.com) has greenlighted a link about the cancellation of Sam & Max 2! This is a 'Good Thing'. Fark can instantly generate awareness that the game has been cancelled, and a few thousand or so people could (and hopefully will) join in with the emailing, petition signing, and general pestering of LucasArts.

Keep the faith people!
 samandmaxfiend
03-07-2004, 2:02 AM
#139
i was thinking..could there be something we could mail to lucasarts.. an item that is veryyy sam & max..and would represent them..as kind of a protest.. i was thinkin of mailin em my hit the road box..but y'know i wanna keep that..what represents sam & max that we could send?

and braindead if u are recruitin ppl..make sure to check out the

www.adventuregamers.com) forums
 toenail1
03-07-2004, 2:10 AM
#140
Sign using different names as much as you want

take the petitions seriously, if you don't then we wont be taken seriously and they'll never release it

SIGN YOUR REAL ANME AND ONLY SIGN IT ONCE!!! SIGNING UNDER DIFF. NAMES IS ONLY HURTING US
 braindead200
03-07-2004, 3:50 AM
#141
thanks samandmaxfiend,but the problem is that i cannot post a reply,isnt there any other places?

P.S.anbody else wants to join the sam and max vs lucasarts campaign???
 braindead200
03-07-2004, 3:54 AM
#142
maybe we should represent something very good that will make him changed his mind about the cancellation,maybe something memorable or somethin thats more like a sign to the future about how big of a mistake he made,if you dont know what i mean,just say im not too bright thats why my name is braindead
 Fred
03-07-2004, 7:39 AM
#143
Originally posted by braindead200
freddy,that is one hell of a website
Heh. That isn't my website, it's Gabez's.

I was just posting it to show you that what you're attempting to do has already been done.
 Bob McDob
03-07-2004, 9:15 AM
#144
Petitions don't mean a thing to game producers, since they take all of five seconds to sign and don't require an attention span. If you're serious about protesting the cancellation of Sam & Max, mail them your protest. (Maybe with a nice hand-carved Max tiki).

On the other hand, sure, I'll sign it, just for the hell of it all.
 hullu
03-07-2004, 9:24 AM
#145
... why they cancelled the game:
[list=1]
quality
The press and the fans hyped that game so much that LEC could not fulfill the expectations or meet the quality standards set up by other LEC adventures
time
The game was not as ready as it was presumed, so the release would move to Q3 or Q4, where the game would have to fight against Doom3 and HalfLife2
money
Adventures nowadays have bigger developement expenses than other genres. 3D environments in adventures must be rich and detailed, because unlike shoot-em-ups, you don't run around fighting enemies, you actually interact with the environment. Maybe they COULD afford the costs of ONE adventure by covering them with StarWars-profits, but the fans WILL demand more. So they said "Let's just pull the plug now". Sadly.
brains
Because LEC recently published 3D-Shooter - or let's say 3D-Lightsaber - they don't have faith in their customers intelligence or interest in a game that would take more than just being trigger-happy.
sales figures
I think I read somewhere that the sales figures of adventures are not good in the US (I am from the "old europe", where adventures are still in fashion), and an american company WILL mainly produce for the US market.
management
Computer games aren't jeans! (Why that? See M. Nelson (http://www.lucasarts.com/about/officers.htm))
murphy's law
Developers and the complete source backup got destroyed by a slimy meteor ;-)
[/list=1]

I think the official statement covers most of them statements.
 remixor
03-07-2004, 9:28 AM
#146
Yeah, except that it doesn't cover any of them.
 Brushguy
03-07-2004, 7:07 PM
#147
On sending stuff to Lucasarts, I sent them a drawing of Sam and Max, drawn on the letter.

I don't believe any of those reasons, hullu. Maybe you haven't seen Steve Purcell's comment about how Sam and Max was ON SCHEDULE and COMING TOGETHER BEAUTIFULLY.

http://www.freewebs.com/savesamandmax)

The site's up. A few sections need to be finished and there's not that much there yet. Again, suggestions on harrassing Lucasarts are welcome (contact me in this thread if you feel like adding something. I would like to know Lucasart's phone number for product support so I can add that to the site)
 hullu
03-07-2004, 7:51 PM
#148
Of course I meant possible, yet internal reasons!

@Brushguy: I have read Steves comment. I just don't believe in that lame excuse Mr. Nelson gave us. I just wanted to say that the management could cetrainly hide some of the given reasons behind their statement.

Nah, i'm just disappointed and trying to understand it.
 Brushguy
03-07-2004, 9:12 PM
#149
Sorry, hullu, I'm just really really really believing that they'll put it back into production. In fact I know they will. This small, still voice in the back of my head is telling me, "They're going to bring it back."

I have nothing against you or your explanation.
 hullu
03-07-2004, 9:44 PM
#150
"It's like millions of voices cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced ... by the release of Freelance Police"
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