NOOOOOOOOOOOooooooOOOOOoooOOOOOO! If money is the issue then what if I promise to buy two copies?! three copies!
Taken from one of the short Star Wars Sam & Max comic strips:
*Sam & Max run into some Imperial troopers*
Sam: Uhoh I think they're onto us
Max: Somebody must have noticed the mile long trail of smouldering stormtrooper refuse in our wake
Sam: Maybe we should have tidied up after ourselves
Sam (pointing to a refuge duct): Max duck in here!
Max: I don't see any duck
Sam: It smells like some kind of high tech waste material compactor - they'll never think were so incredibly stupid to hide in here
Max: That's right nobody's that stupid.
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Sam & Max 1, Star Wars 0, LucasArts *RIP*
Clap clap, well done for cancelling one of the most loved video games series ever. The above dialogue says it all.
Viz, Right on mate, couldnt have said it better.
Send your love to Randy Breen, rbreen@lucasarts.com, the Vice President of Development, or Michael Nelson, mnelson@lucasarts.com, the company's acting President.
I know I did.
Keep up the letter campaign, I'm still disillutioned enough to belive that perhaps if we send them enough mail within these next couple of days they'll say "Gee how about we don't throw these last two years worth of money and work down the drain, and try to make a profit."
Also everyone head on over to Gamespot (
http://www.gamespot.com/) . They have a poll about whether or not your sad that the game has been cancelled, it's down the left side, you don't have to join or sign up or anything, just vote for our favorite duo. Let the voices be heard.
Everyone "sign" the petition, i don't know if it will do any good or not but it'll help LucasArts geet some idea of a fan base, which may or may not help the situation. And while u are there read the post Tim Schafer put up and heed his words, atleast the part about psychonaughts...
what? no savesamandmax.com yet?
I dont have the resources to put up such a page, but I support any who do.
also - any spiffy save sam and max fliers out there yet?
I am mad and I have been mad for 4 1/2 straight hours (since I found out). I refuse to buy any more of Lucasarts' stinkin' Star Wars tie-ins, because from here on out, that's all they're going to make. A bunch of pointless junk nobody except insane mindless gamers will buy.
There are not enough emoticons to describe how mad I am.
:samandmaxcancel
This emoticon will be a red face with eyes bulging out and drool coming out of it's open mouth with several teeth missing.
This is sad. This is definitely the end of the Lucas Adventure Era until those "sales managers" running the marketing machine wake up and smell the coffee.
The chances of another adventure game from them is less than zero. Even if they announce a Monkey Island 5 or Grim 2, they're going to destroy us again two months before release and pull the plug AGAIN.
It wouldn't shock me if the people running Lucasarts right now are a bunch of retards with one computer locked up in a tiny padded cell.
By the way, check out my cartoon I drew describing what's going on...
http://www.freewebs.com/lucaskeen/endsammax.gif)
I'm going to send this cartoon to Steve Purcell while I'm at it.
I'm still in shock about how much can happen in two days...
Please don't send that to anyone, Elliot. Remove it from the board too.
This is utter crap that thay cancelled it and i also setn 2 emails to lucas arts and got all my friends and family to sign the petiton.
Also dont know if its him or not but Tim Schafer has signed it and said
Let it go. Sam and Max 2 was going to be ass. Go find another game to be fanboys of, like Psychonauts!
Although i love his games this is a realy stupid thing to say and if you want to look at his reply his nuber is 1081
everybody, make sure you read my last post. DO NOT BUY ANYMORE OF THEIR GAMES!!! DO NOT RECOMMEND ANY OF THEIR GAMES!!! DO NOT LOOK AT THEIR GAMES!!! TELL EVERYONE THEIR GAMES SUCK!!! HIDE THEIR GAMES BEHIND OTHERS ON THE RACKS AT THE STORE!!! DO ANYTHING TO SHOW THEM WE WONT PUT UP WITH THIS S*&T!!! SIGN ANY PETITON OR DO ANY VOTE YOU SEE!!!
stand togther, be strong, show them we're out there, and that there's a lot of us. i believe we still have a miniscule chance of getting OUR game back. if we don't ill do everything to bring them down with me.
PS: if you send an email, make sure it uses proper grammar and spelling, it'll be more effective than a letter that looks like a monkey wrote it
People are already slowly beginning to let this go. I can't. And since LucasArts likely won't bring this game back, I'll be disappointed forever. I love life.
Originally posted by Sirrus
Send your love to Randy Breen, rbreen@lucasarts.com, the Vice President of Development, or Michael Nelson, mnelson@lucasarts.com, the company's acting President.
I know I did.
I'd really rather send them a nice printed letter, since that won't get thrown out without a second thought,
Does anyone know who I should send it to?
This sucks. Reading all the old interviews really makes me sad, I mean they were almost near completion of the game. I really hope they bring it back, we gotta change their minds! We can sign more than once on that petition, just use a different name and everything, it can work!
It's been suggested that all letters and thoughts be sent to pr@lucasarts.com
I think this would be much more effective and appropriate than a petition form.
I though it over. I decided not to send my drawing to Steve Purcell. Sorry if anyone was insulted by it. But I did it when I was at the peak of anger, okay?!?!?
But I did sign the petition (at this point 2082 signatures) and sent an e-mail to Lucasarts.
Nine hours now, still hopping mad. I, also, am going to boycott Lucasarts, because all that's going to come out of their stinkin' corporate mouths is Star Wars this. Star Wars that.
I do believe if you pester somebody long enough they'll succumb to doing whatever it is. After all, samandmax.net came back... :p
I didn't get to see the comic. Was it that bad?
Hey all,
After reading all these posts, I have to agree that this is a total bummer. I've written an email today (and yesterday) to express my disappointment - pr@lucasarts.com. Hopefully, something will be done, but I'm not optimistic. I guess boycotting Lucasarts games is a losing cause, but what the heck. It's been all downhill for a while there anyways.
Well I've done my bit by signing the petition and e-mailing the PR guys. Not sure how much good it will do but at least LucasArts will know that there are still people out there who care about adventure games.
Oh and I think Tim Shafer's comment (if it was him) was a joke. He is always looking for ways to promote Psychonauts.
Originally posted by dcroeser
Well I've done my bit by signing the petition and e-mailing the PR guys. Not sure how much good it will do but at least LucasArts will know that there are still people out there who care about adventure games.
Oh and I think Tim Shafer's comment (if it was him) was a joke. He is always looking for ways to promote Psychonauts.
It wasn't him.. Got that one clarified over at the adventuregamers forum
I've been a diehard fan of these games for years, the game leaves me in stiches everytime I play it. Lucasarts...Poo Poo On you.
Hey I think we need to start many more new petitions. I think we should sign about eight times under nineteen different screennames on each one and make sure to add smilies that concern our current feelings.
Electronic feelings don't convey well, trust me.
Not only should we be dedicated, but organized as well. It's very important that we band together under the same flag.
At the moment I just feel used. Sure, there are a load more Star Wars fans than Sam and Max, and Monkey Island fans, but where would LucasArts be without us? For a decade their output was 95% original and 5% Star Wars, and they couldn't have done that if we weren't buying the games. Now they've come to the point where they don't need us, and look whats happened.
some1 needs to start a
www.savesamandmax.com) and have all the information on 1 page
I've done everthing in my power to give Lucas Arts a peice of my mind.
I've told everyone I could on the net. (Forums, etc.)
I've e-mailed PR (and I'm going to do it again.), and the two head people.
I've signed petitions.
and I am never buying anything Lucas Arts again until that mess of a company is sorted.
I am still bewildered by this decision, and I get the feeling that Lucas Arts isn't telling us the whole story, there's just got to be more to it, because I know for sure they aren't running out of cash... *cough* Star Wars *cough*.
Originally posted by samandmaxfiend
some1 needs to start a
www.savesamandmax.com) and have all the information on 1 page
What about Mixnmojo, or more specifically, samandmax.net? What's wrong with them?
samandmax.net guys can you post this...on the front page
Saving Sam & Max 2
e-mail lucasarts and tell them what you think about the cancellation
pr@lucasarts.com
sign the petition
http://www.petitiononline.com/LACOSAM/petition.html)
write a letter
LucasArts
P.O. Box 10307
San Rafael, CA 94912
vote here at the gamespot poll
http://www.gamespot.com/)
do everything you can to let lucasarts that there is a market for a sam & max 2
LucasArts had a strong impact in my childhood fun. Their games where so great I would wish that when I grew up, I would work for LucasArts, making great adventure games. The same games that made me smile, laugh and learn witty comments that I will never forget.
Now, they can all rot in hell for all I care. Rot along with your Star Wars franchise. I'm not a fan anymore. You disgust me.
My hopes and dreams have all just been crushed and shattered. I stand now upon the brink of destruction pushing the "you suck" button on my downloaded Sam & Max Soundboard, over and over and over again. That's right Max tell Lucasarts how i feel about this. click*
I am sooo at the petition already.
Originally posted by lagamorph321
Hey all,
I wrote steve purcell (stevepurcell@hotmail.com) to give him a little encouragement and wrote lucasart to ask WTF? Anyone else interested in starting a campaign?
I'm writting them as well. urthermore, I live but a couple hour's drive from their offices in San Rafael (I'm in Santa Cruz). Anybody in the greater bay area want to picket? I'm serious. PM and e-mail me.
Also, send them letters via snail-mail. These are given more weight than e-mails.
Here's one address. If anyone knows a better one post it.
LucasArts
Attention: Product Support
P.O. Box 10307
San Rafael, CA 94912
I registered on this forum just now all just to talk about this topic.
First, I'm very very very very very (very x infinity) disappointed in Lucasarts decision. When I first heard about Full Throttle 2 cancelled, it has already hurt my soul in an incredible magnitude since I'm very much in graphic adventure. And at that time, I actually have felt that something bad is going to happen to Sam and Max 2 as well. I did not expect it will come to this...
Guys, I have to admit it's pointless to make a petition. I remembered when I first heard about the possibility of a Grim Fandango 2 production (my best graphic adventure of all times), none of you can guess how much petition I posted and begged my friends to do so. And then what turns up? No no no, not Grim Fandango 2, but GRIM news. Tim Scaffer left Lucasarts.
And now this... Sigh... There's so much pain in my heart now though it's only about 12 minutes that I heard about the cancellation. I HAVE LOSE ALL FAITH IN LUCASARTS..... Those people at Lucasarts, if they dont plan to make the game, why bother announce it in the first place!!! Only breaks more heart. But, I bet there are people at Lucasarts who are just as helpless as we are (those who have been working hard on the game and the team behind Full Throttle 2).
If only Goerge Lucas is a big fan of graphic adventure games. Maybe he can command those people at Lucasarts to continue the production of S&M 2. And now, it really doesnt matter anymore what graphic adventure games I'm getting, as long as there is one....just one is enough.... I dont care whether it is a FT2 or S&M2 or whatever new titles. At least give us one game. But... stupid Lucasarts!!!
guys the petitions and e-mails may be futile..but dont let lucasarts off..dont go down without a fight..do it for sam & max..for steve purcell..and mike stemmle.. the development team..and all the work theyve put in over 2 years developing this game.. if we can atleast show lucasarts people are out there that want this game completed we are half a chance..but if people give up..and dont try then we are no chance
Originally posted by samandmaxfiend
guys the petitions and e-mails may be futile..but dont let lucasarts off..dont go down without a fight..do it for sam & max..for steve purcell..and mike stemmle.. the development team..and all the work theyve put in over 2 years developing this game.. if we can atleast show lucasarts people are out there that want this game completed we are half a chance..but if people give up..and dont try then we are no chance And thus I reiterate, Bay Area Sam and Max fans need to picket Lucasarts and ALL Sam& Max fans need to send letters...Real lettters on paper.
Dahhh, It hurts. What torture. Driving on like this for so long. Month after month of scravenging for information. They reassured us it was going to be great. They came this far. Victory was in there reach, which brings me to the point , WHY?????
WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU MAKE SUCH A STUPID DECISION? YOU WERE SO CLOSE LUCAS ARTS, BUT INSTEAD YOU YOU TERNED THE TIDES AND RIPPED THE WORN TATTERED, BATTERED, BRUISED, KICKED, CRUCHED AND REPEDETIVE EXPOSURE TO YOUR LIES, FALSE HOPES AND WORST OF ALL, RELEASE DAY ESTIMATES, THERE THE WORST, IT'S LIKE A 8 YEAR OLD BOY COUNTING DOWN THE DAYS TO THERE BIRTHDAY, AND THEN YOU RIPPED THE FAITH WE HAD LEFT IN YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sigh, I suppose old dogs only forget old tricks. Lucas arts , It's not all about the money, there is more, so much more. I hope you haven't forgot that.
And so begins the end, my friends, 10yrs from now starwars will be dried out and you will be on your last legs, and the world turns away from you and remembers that not so long ago you had a chance to be something great, it could have all started with a rabbit and a dog..... Adios , it's all over...
I didn't get to see the comic. Was it that bad?
All it was was Sam and Max in one of the head-chopping off mechanisms where the blade comes down. The blade has "STAR WARS" written on it and Lucasarts's Gold Guy is pulling the rope.
"Looks like the end of the line, Sam. I may scream like a grandmother." -Max
"Me too Max. There's just no sense in the heads of doomed monomaniacs." -Sam
"In place of our game will probably be another Star Wars tie-in." -Max
"I hate Star Wars flavored games." -Sam
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The link is still somewhere in the middle of Page 2 of this comic.
I sent the comic to Lucasarts to slap them in the face. Are you guys sure petitions are futile? It's already past 3300 some odd signatures. How many signatures are they aiming for anyway?
Keep e-mailing Lucasarts. Keep insulting them. They'll cave in soon enough or do something.
I sent two already, and I'm going away right now to send more.
oh man, this sucks. I'm definitely turning my back on any more LucasArts games unless they brought Sam and Max back (which I definitely doubt).
pr@lucasarts.com
(send 20 e-mails here)
rbreen@lucasarts.com
(send 10 e-mails here)
mnelson@lucasarts.com
(send 50 e-mails here and lots and lots of spam)
http://www.petitiononline.com/LACOSAM/petition.html)
(sign this)
http://www.petitiononline.com/samnmax2/petition.html)
(also sign this)
Somebody earlier in this forum mentioned living near Lucasart's location. That person should get all his friends together, drive to Lucasarts, and stand outside chanting "SAM AND MAX! SAM AND MAX!" while playing the game theme song and the TV theme song on a loud boom box. "SAM AND MAX! FREELANCE POLICE!"
Dude, I am still SO mad...
I really am also still mad, but I think all this is kinda pointless. I've seen this kind of things so many times before (Full Throttle 2 and Grim Fandango 2) and none of it works. But, still good efforts. Keep trying. Maybe Lucasarts will really give in (and I really do hope so...)
Just registered to post this here. Only for the sake of completeness, my letter to LucasArts.
Probably too long for them to read anyway and not quite the wording I wanted to use but anyway, here it is, titled "Sam and Max 2 - A Funeral Eulogy":
Dear Sir or Madam
There are times when great things happen. When creative
minds join to make something great. With a certain talent
they are able to touch people and to create something that
stays in their hearts and minds for a long time.
The company formerly known as Lucasfilm Games had the power
of creation. The people involved were able to make universes
that are still known today. Even through their name change
to LucasArts they kept on doing what they were good at:
Creating worlds. Worlds of fun. Worlds of awe. Worlds of
laughter. Worlds of epic tales.
Ever since I played my first real computer game "Monkey
Island" I was in love with adventure games. I quickly found
out that from all companies, LucasArts had the talent to
make adventure games differently. I never liked Sierra games
much, although I was a big fan of the genre. They never got
the hang of it.
And now thinking back to all these years, a smile crosses my
face when I remember the names: Monkey Island, Loom, Maniac
Mansion, Monkey Island: LeChuck's Revenge, Indiana Jones and
the Last Crusade, Indiana Jones: The Fate of Atlantis,
Maniac Mansion: The Day of the Tentacle, Sam & Max: Hit the
Road, Full Throttle, The Dig, The Curse of Monkey Island,
Grim Fandango.
These are more than game titles. These are words that can
strike up a conversation immediately among gaming
enthusiasts. And why? Because they were more than mere
games. They were game universes. And the gamers loved them
for their creativity and for their fun.
Now let us take a big step to today. Adventure games have
been "dead" for some decades now. But they are reviving. The
revival started a few years ago and is in full force now. In
your press release you stated that it is a bad time for
adventure games. But let me ask you the question many people
around the world have been asking you since you abandoned
Sam & Max 2: "When is a good time for adventure games?" With
all the upcoming titles - promising titles - gamers aquire a
new taste for the genre. And many many gamers will remember
the time when you were the king of this genre. There is no
real competition to a game like S&M2. You have the name of
the game, you have the name of the company, you have the
press in your favor already, you have many fans who are
excited (and very very sad at the moment), you have an
almost finished game. What could possibly go wrong?
All the adventure gaming community asks of you is to give
this game the shot it deserves. And not only the game, the
whole genre as well. If it flops, you might as well quit
adventure games altogether, no Day of the Tentacle 2, no
Monkey Island 5. You probably won't be able to market these
games anyway because you made many enemies in the adventure
gaming community during the last hours.
Well, and with the upcoming Star Wars Episode 3 movie there
should be no big money problems in the near future. Speaking
of future: Have you even considered how the future may look
for LucasArts? Think ahead a few years: I doubt there will
be any Star Wars movies to milk. So what is your company
based on then? From what I read, all non-Star Wars titles
you recently got out pretty much flopped. So how do you plan
on keeping the company alive after the Star Wars hype - and
the money that goes with it - is gone?
You are standing before a more important decision than you
might think right now. You have lost many of your fans of
the old days (as you can read all over the internet). They
won't be there for you when all the Star Wars fans have
left. But it doesn't take much to turn their favor. As one
person on a fan board wrote "One adventure game every 3
years, is that too much to ask?" Really, is it? To make your
hardcore fans happy? To get them to buy one of your other
games even if it's just so-so?
Well, I realize that this mail has become far longer than I
intended. I would doubt that you read this far. If you have
though, maybe not all is lost. Still, there are some things
I wanted to say, but don't plan on making this text longer
than it already is.
I'd just like to saying thank you for being one of the
pioneers in computer gaming. Thank you for creating worlds
everyone likes to remember, and thank you for shaping my
childhood.
Like many people have written, this might as well be my
departure from
LucasArts. If you fail to support your fans with even so
little as finishing a game that's so far in the production.
If you dare telling the gaming community that the adventure
genre in its entirety is dead while quite the opposite is
all around. If you turn away from your roots which your fans
cherish you for just like this. Then I have to say you are
not the company you once were. Then this is my sad goodbye.
Thank you for your time.
Janbiel
Germany
I know how we can get Sam and Max Back!!!
All we need is somone willing to off themselves for the greater good. If somone was to, say, commit suicide over this incident, and mention that the reason for commiting suicide was because of the cancellation of Sam and Max: Freelance Police. Then LucasArts might have a lawsuit on it's hands, and the parents or family of said victum/martyr would settle with the completion and release of the game insted of $10million. What do you think? Any volentiers????
Lets lie and say that COJ commited suicide because he came to the future and saw that S&M2 was cancelled.
Wow, that petition is almost at 4000 signatures. Will THAT convince Lucasarts?
About that idea....Lucasarts would only come out with a "we have nothing to do with this incident" statement, like they did when Infinite Machine went bankrupt.
I don't usually write letters, but a written letter is worth more than another e-mail that says "You freaks" all over it.
Here's my letter:
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To whom it may concern,
I have recently discovered that Sam and Max: Freelance Police has been cancelled. I would like to say that I have been a big fan of yours until now.
I have played and beaten every last one of your adventure games, and I loved every one of them, but I fear that there will be no more to play if you keep this act up. Please tell me: what is the point of hyping the entire world up (including every Sam and Max fan, several large internet communities, and the press) if you cancel the games in the end?
Sam and Max: Freelance Police was going to be one of your crowning achievements. A sign that "Lucasarts will not let the adventure genre die." But now that you've offed your two new games, which several people would have definitely bought, I've lost hope.
Even if you announce production on a Monkey Island 5 or Grim Fandango 2, that will probably cancel too, a week before its due date.
All that I am saying is: you are losing fans by the thousands as I speak. All you will have left is Star Wars after the hardcore adventure fans leave, but then after Episode 3 is over, you will disappear, because all your creativity and bravery has drained out. You used to blaze new trails through the world of computer game entertainment, now you seem to be stuck in one spot, afraid to move on.
If you are afraid everything non-Star Wars does not sell, think about this from a new direction: "Are Sam and Max really less accessible than RTX Red Rock? Wrath Unleashed?" I don't think so.
Consider what would happen if you brought Sam and Max 2 back. Think of how many fans would come rushing back to you, kissing your feet. The angry mail would stop. Think of the sales that Sam and Max 2 would rake in. The press is hyped up over this game, people are literally foaming at the mouth for this game. All it takes is one simple sentence: "We didn't mean it."
I mourn for your company, and until you change this grave decision, I fear you are in worse trouble than you thought.
Drama queens.
"...it has already hurt my soul in an incredible magnitude since I'm very much in graphic adventure."
snicker.
My theory is that at this moment, Sam and Max Freelance Police is a complete game.
Consider it: wouldn't Lucasarts leave two months to prepare to release the game? March 2nd could possibly happen to have been the day they took it to Mike Nelson, currently the world's best friend, when he said, "Are you nuts? This will never sell."
If you think this is a stupid theory, please don't laugh me out of the forums (especially you SyntheticGerbil, since you apparently like to pick on inferiors) .
By the way, the petition hit 4000 signatures in 2 1/2 days!
hmmm, that really wasnt a eulogy, a eulogy is speaking good of somebody (doesnt have to be when their dead), that was more of a "lucasarts you suck you SOBS" kind of speech
It's very important that we band together under the same flag.
exactly what ive been saying, reply back if you want to join the movement, we can make our sigs the same, and use a common avatar, plus we can raise all sorts of hell (in a non-destructive, ghandi like way)
plus great idea to picket, to bad i live on the wrong side of the country :(
everybody stand tall, be proud, we can beat those b*@$*@ds
IF NOT WE WILL TAKE THEM DOWN WITH US
Yeah, the comic is a broken image, so...
I would gladly join undernieth that flag!
Another reason why I am pissed is because I love Sam & Max and not just the game. Since Sam & Max collectables are so hard to get your hands on (here, atleast), I was hoping that once the game was released that there would be a big demand for that (T-Shirts, Toys, more comics, etc.). That stuff would have made me really happy.
I would also like to say that, if this isn't a time for the Sam & Max game, then let's hope that the time will come sometime later, maybe when lucas arts sees the time is fit, they'll complete the game, and release it. (How 'bout it LA, let's say... september. ;) )
Until then, i'm not going down without a fight, and I am not going to even go near anything Star Wars ever!