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New JA+ Mod beta 1.7B

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 Slider744
02-07-2004, 3:06 PM
#1
you can have it here
http://japlus.fragism.com/)

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Fixed bug on typing partial player name instead of player ID (it wasn't working if the player had an ID superior to the max number of connected players)...
- Amdie, amdie2 are now desactivated if the gametype is not FFA and if you are in duel.
- All emotes improved : now you can't move laggy during static emots any more.
- emots are desactivated while making a move attack (it was exploted by players when they was escaping a special move thanks to emots).
- jp_allowEmots : allow/disallow all emots on the server (in special gametype, you may want to disallow all emots)

- d_saberSPStyleDamage ==> removed cheat protection... so you can activate SP damages management (like in baseJKA) or try MP style damages management
It is very important to understand that by default in baseJKA, the damages are based on the damage management system of the Single Player Game ( Raven Error, or wanted thing?)
The Multiplayer damages management is more like JK2 System management.
- now jp_alterDMG enable to alter both SP style and MP style. if damages are not altered, and the SP style is selected, all damages become unchanged like the default baseJKA.
- MP style damages ( d_saberSPStyleDamage 0 ) HIT DETECTION improved. my personal prefered style is MP Style damage.
- Added more saber damage cvars to control all attacks.

- God Chat improved : you can't be god during an attack with bubble chat at the same time. You can't do damage to other players during chat god.
You can't be God while being gripped and activating chat bubble after being gripped.

- protected people can't flip kick any more
- player can't change saber during attack any more.
- jp_allowSaberSwitch : allow/disallow the ability to switch sabers with /saber cmd
- When duel begins, the players make an automatic BoW emot.
- amvstr Cmd_Name : execute on the server a seta cmd name. You have to setup it before in your server.cfg
 Kurgan
02-07-2004, 6:55 PM
#2
Those sound like some interesting changes.

Are amslap/sleep/punish still in the mod though?
 _PerfectAgent_
02-07-2004, 7:00 PM
#3
Unfortunately, they remain in there. I searched the readme for any of those commands and I didn't find anything mentioning that they were removed.
 Slider744
02-07-2004, 7:28 PM
#4
yes those cmds are still there because, when i played on internet under fake name, i saw very few server that was abusing.....

when i found abusing server, i tried to contact the main admin....
 Agen
02-07-2004, 7:33 PM
#5
So the mod's still an admin abuse weapon. :rolleyes:
 Master William
02-08-2004, 9:48 PM
#6
Stop bringing up the same freaking points everytime he posts. You can abuse KICK, SLEEP, BAN, and SILENCE too. Would that make Xmod an "abuse weapon"?
 _PerfectAgent_
02-09-2004, 12:43 AM
#7
You can't put people to sleep in xMod.
 TK-8252
02-09-2004, 12:47 AM
#8
You can freeze them in xMod, which is the exact same effect as sleep.
 _PerfectAgent_
02-09-2004, 12:52 AM
#9
I guess I learn something new everyday then. :D

But anyway, it's never kick (no one around!), ban, sleep, or silence (keep me quiet, fine with me!) that is abused, but it's the others.

People running around empowered fighting off people easily, punishing people because they want to be just like Darth Vader (not to mention a nice message in the middle saying, "Your lack of faith disturbs me..."), killing another player out of nowhere by typing a command for no reason. Iit happens, often.
 Master William
02-09-2004, 1:51 AM
#10
TK, why are you constantly registering and posting at all sites that host his mod, commenting like this: "Oh wow. Another abusing mod." or similar. I say: leave slider alone. You don't have to terrorize him... I saw your posts at jk3files.com, pcgamemods.com, and even in previous threads here. I'm not trying to be rude, just saying that you should just ignore him instead of doing what you are now.

Slider - I do recommend you remove the hated commands, they're constantly abused in my clan (just by one annoying person), and it's annoying.
 TK-8252
02-09-2004, 2:23 AM
#11
I have registered at three sites. Wow. :roleyess:
 Master William
02-09-2004, 2:35 AM
#12
That's not what I'm referring to. I am referring to the fact that you won't let leave him alone, that's all.

Did you e-mail him too? Joking :p
 TK-8252
02-09-2004, 3:28 AM
#13
I wasn't even talking about Slider or the mod in this thread, BTW. I was correcting _PerfectAgent_ when he said you can't sleep in xMod.
 AxVegetA
02-09-2004, 5:58 AM
#14
Those admin comands are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo friging gay, we must kill the guy that made the JAmod and keeps updating it with more and more gay ways to turn some gay child with a password into a god.
I remember one time, the bigest admin ******* in the AJE server (wont tell name) kept teleporting me to where he was and grip kick me to death empowered.
Or the other day i was amslaped every 0.5 seconds and was flying across the map. All this of course silenced and with a gay name they put me.
All you CAN do against this is spectate or quit.
At least when the admin spawns an atst for himself, or a sniper and go to the mountains, u can have some fun dealing with them, but they are soo queer they would kick you of the server for taking their snipers, or npc kill all when u take their atsts.
and besides this mods have some huge delay that makes fights so horrible. And every duel is a WTF.
Worst of all, 80% of ffa servers use the JA mod. :mad:
 El Sitherino
02-09-2004, 9:25 AM
#15
Originally posted by AxVegetA
Those admin comands are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo friging gay, we must kill the guy that made the JAmod and keeps updating it with more and more gay ways to turn some gay child with a password into a god.
I remember one time, the bigest admin ******* in the AJE server (wont tell name) kept teleporting me to where he was and grip kick me to death empowered.
Or the other day i was amslaped every 0.5 seconds and was flying across the map. All this of course silenced and with a gay name they put me.
All you CAN do against this is spectate or quit.
At least when the admin spawns an atst for himself, or a sniper and go to the mountains, u can have some fun dealing with them, but they are soo queer they would kick you of the server for taking their snipers, or npc kill all when u take their atsts.
and besides this mods have some huge delay that makes fights so horrible. And every duel is a WTF.
Worst of all, 80% of ffa servers use the JA mod. :mad: Your homophobic insults disturb me. Please try and keep your criticisms civil. I may not be a mod, but I am a forum member, and I would appreciate this place staying, moderately clean.

I do suggest you take out kill. If people are upset by abuse of sleep, and quiet, I say go to a new server. If people abuse commands, they are not worth your time. :)
TK you're too good to waste your time with command abusers :p
 AxVegetA
02-09-2004, 4:26 PM
#16
Originally posted by InsaneSith
Your homophobic insults disturb me. Please try and keep your criticisms civil. I may not be a mod, but I am a forum member, and I would appreciate this place staying, moderately clean.

I do suggest you take out kill. If people are upset by abuse of sleep, and quiet, I say go to a new server. If people abuse commands, they are not worth your time. :)
TK you're too good to waste your time with command abusers :p

<<<the finger>>> u know what to do with it
 Jed
02-09-2004, 7:27 PM
#17
<<<you're banned>>> You know what to do: STFU.

You've been warned 3 times in the past for flaming, AxVegetA, and now you've got a temp ban. Simmer in your own juices for a few days.
 TK-8252
02-09-2004, 8:15 PM
#18
LOL... now this has got to be a joke. Look what someone suggested for JA+ at Slider's JA+ forums:

Originally posted by StanBel at JA+ forums
V. 1.0

Admin commands:
- Burn someone
- Make someone explode
- Someone who is ghosted must be like /use_cloak .
- Freeze someone (really surrounding by ice)
- Unarm a guy, (take off his saber,only use melee)
- Give the admin a coronet ( it must glow ).
- Give lamers the ears of a donkey.( so they know that they may kill him)

Emots:
- The finger.
- Kiss And now here's a quote showing how he likes to abuse people:

Originally posted by StanBel at JA+ forums
1 time someone was punished, then slapped, very high ( it was in taspir), then he was forgiven , We all say him alling in the lave, LOOOL !!!!! See, THESE are the kind of people who Slider is feeding the needs of by giving admins these god-like cheats and abilities.

You know what, it's not worth ranting and raving anymore. Jedi Academy is damned to follow the same path that Jedi Outcast did. And Slider is personally digging it's grave.
 _PerfectAgent_
02-09-2004, 8:54 PM
#19
I've noticed many people have requested a kiss emote....

Originally posted by StanBel at JA+ forums
1 time someone was punished, then slapped, very high ( it was in taspir), then he was forgiven , We all say him alling in the lave, LOOOL !!!!!
That is very sad... :disaprove
 TK-8252
02-09-2004, 9:38 PM
#20
Slider has said, so many times that the kiss emote is impossible. Raven Software removed the animation in Jedi Academy (Thank god!) and it cannot be put in. Yet these kids just can't understand this. They need to go back to Jedi Outcast if they want to use their gay kiss emote.
 razorace
02-09-2004, 10:01 PM
#21
Originally posted by Slider744
- MP style damages ( d_saberSPStyleDamage 0 ) HIT DETECTION improved. my personal prefered style is MP Style damage.

What did you change?
 zERoCooL2479
02-09-2004, 10:06 PM
#22
LOL...the kid never learns. Be sure not to be confused with my mod (JA Mod, JA Reloaded), which is far superior to everything he can dish out. In other news, I moved on to other projects. AOTCTC and The Matrix Unplugged. These two mods have been fun thus far and I'm looking forward to seeing the publics reaction.

Peace!
-c1 aka An0maly
 Master William
02-10-2004, 12:51 AM
#23
Is Matrix Unplugged released yet?

Oh and slider, please just remove SLAY, SLAP, and BREAKARM. It's very annoying. I usually use amprotect to protect myself from hackslash-happy people, and amteleport, well... We use it to get faster to a place, especially when we play huge SP maps. I think admins should use their brains too, disable abuseable commands. I mean, you can.
 vS:Mr.Joshua
02-10-2004, 6:25 AM
#24
Originally posted by Slider744
yes those cmds are still there because, when i played on internet under fake name, i saw very few server that was abusing.....

when i found abusing server, i tried to contact the main admin....

I call BULLSH!T on that one.

Admin mods = death of JK series.
 Slider744
02-10-2004, 6:47 AM
#25
Originally posted by TK-8252
LOL... now this has got to be a joke. Look what someone suggested for JA+ at Slider's JA+ forums:

And now here's a quote showing how he likes to abuse people:

See, THESE are the kind of people who Slider is feeding the needs of by giving admins these god-like cheats and abilities.

You know what, it's not worth ranting and raving anymore. Jedi Academy is damned to follow the same path that Jedi Outcast did. And Slider is personally digging it's grave.

i never said i will code all the cheat cmd that immature people ask me to do
 Slider744
02-10-2004, 6:52 AM
#26
Originally posted by razorace
What did you change?


i change the HIT detection in MP style because by default, the saber can cross through body without damaging...
now it is very good for me....

go to play on my linux server, will see it by yourselfs....

the default damages in MP style are close to the Sp style damages (basejkA sytle damage) except for several attack like the red stances which is like JK2 game...

the entire mp damages management is more like JK2 was....and it is completly configurable via damages cvar

the SP style damage management is based on level force attribution during the attack... and this level of force is converted in damages... (it is a very summary but it gives the genaral way it works)
 Slider744
02-10-2004, 6:54 AM
#27
Originally posted by zERoCooL2479
LOL...the kid never learns.

how old are you Chosenone to speak like that to me????
you are perhaps older than me but does it give you the right to think you are better than me?

If you have different point fo view than me does it give you the right to say ....."LOL...the kid never learns" .....
I have myself a different point of view as yours....
does i insult you or do as i was superior to you?

you seems such a pretancious guy....who think he is much better than others
 Slider744
02-10-2004, 7:00 AM
#28
Originally posted by Master William
Is Matrix Unplugged released yet?

Oh and slider, please just remove SLAY, SLAP, and BREAKARM. It's very annoying. I usually use amprotect to protect myself from hackslash-happy people, and amteleport, well... We use it to get faster to a place, especially when we play huge SP maps. I think admins should use their brains too, disable abuseable commands. I mean, you can.

breakarm is removed in my personal beta
 GothiX
02-10-2004, 11:13 AM
#29
At least Chosen One is mature enough not to make a quadruple post, nor make an easily-abused mod. He learnt from what happened to JK2. Obviously, you didn't.
 Druid Bremen
02-10-2004, 12:38 PM
#30
I heard Chrono saying there were backdoors in ChOsEnOnE's mod...
 Master William
02-10-2004, 3:24 PM
#31
My saber goes through people in 1.7, it's all bugged up with the sabers... Is it fixed in 1.7b?
 Alegis
02-10-2004, 3:58 PM
#32
always the same, whenever a modder posts improvements and all, instead of suggestions or bugs; "Admin mods= gay!!" "my mod is the superiority, join me and together we will rule the galaxy" "ive been abused once!"... they heard this at least a thousand friggin times I think. And yes, every command can be abused, just like 1.03, change somethign and it gets abused. (make something a bit stronger...). I highly suggest you take these comments to one of the dozen discussion threads (plenty of choice, "which is best mod";"abuse threads";"honor threads"...)
 Slider744
02-10-2004, 4:22 PM
#33
Originally posted by Master William
My saber goes through people in 1.7, it's all bugged up with the sabers... Is it fixed in 1.7b?

of course it is what i just said
come to see on ly personal server to see it by yourselfs
66.98.211.133:29070
 TK-8252
02-10-2004, 8:46 PM
#34
I know that you wouldn't put those commands in, Slider, but, I just thought it was entertaining to see what people are requesting. :p

But notice something, the people who are requesting admin cheats for admin mods are posting on YOUR forums. Doesn't that tell you something? People are turning to YOU to forfill their admin abuse needs.
 NoaNet
02-10-2004, 8:49 PM
#35
I am sick of abuse,but teh mod roxors.
I see more lamer killing than abuse.
The thing i hate is when ******* clans and ******* idiots dont put their damn rules in a motd and then yell at you for breaking a stupid rule like "Stun baton=peace".
 _PerfectAgent_
02-10-2004, 10:11 PM
#36
Originally posted by vS:Mr.Joshua
Admin mods = death of JK series.
Unless they make another astounding game. (on a completely different engine of course) Then people will just play the game.

Originally posted by TK-8252
Slider has said, so many times that the kiss emote is impossible. Raven Software removed the animation in Jedi Academy (Thank god!) and it cannot be put in. Yet these kids just can't understand this. They need to go back to Jedi Outcast if they want to use their gay kiss emote.
Yeah, it was from the scene in the Doomgiver (I think). Good that it's gone though. I was disturbed at the sight of Kyle kissing Trandoshans and Rodians.

Originally posted by Slider744
breakarm is removed in my personal beta
Come on, just a little more, come on...

Originally posted by Slider744
i never said i will code all the cheat cmd that immature people ask me to do
But those are the people you're making the "mod" for.
 Master William
02-10-2004, 10:21 PM
#37
But those are the people you're making the "mod" for.

They may be a part of the community that uses JA+, but they're not the only ones, believe me. Smart people just disable the use of SLAP, SLAY, and whatever else, and simply set the server up, and it'll be like playing "Xmod" and all other mods that you seem to enjoy, that still have abuseable commands.
 _PerfectAgent_
02-10-2004, 10:25 PM
#38
If so, then why have them in the first place?
 zERoCooL2479
02-11-2004, 11:47 PM
#39
Originally posted by Slider744
how old are you Chosenone to speak like that to me????
you are perhaps older than me but does it give you the right to think you are better than me?

If you have different point fo view than me does it give you the right to say ....."LOL...the kid never learns" .....
I have myself a different point of view as yours....
does i insult you or do as i was superior to you?

you seems such a pretancious guy....who think he is much better than others

I'm not trying to talk down to you. What I mean by "you never learn" is that if you give admins the option of having those abusable commands, 9 time out of 10 they will use them. If you simply don't give them the option. You will have a less abusive mod, and everyone can have their jolly 'ol way. You dig?
 vS:Mr.Joshua
02-22-2004, 4:43 AM
#40
I'll say it again...

ADMIN MODS = GAY = DEATH OF JK SERIES
 El Sitherino
02-22-2004, 10:27 AM
#41
Originally posted by vS:Mr.Joshua
I'll say it again...

ADMIN MODS = GAY = DEATH OF JK SERIES http://www.boomspeed.com/insanesith/stfu_owned.gif)
seriously, we've heard that enough. Please also be more considerate with your criticism.
 TK-8252
02-22-2004, 5:49 PM
#42
Why are there so many homophobic people in the world these days?
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