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Poll: Choice over Kyle?

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 Andy867
09-29-2003, 5:43 AM
#1
Ok, its poll-time again, I am just wondering Who would make a better helper than Kyle (if Any) And please post after voting so we can see why you felt either way.
 peloquin
09-29-2003, 5:55 AM
#2
I chose "other" and I would have liked to have been introduced to a new character that was a master at the academy. So not only would you have had some company/help you would have been getting to know another character. Or better yet if they could have had a couple of different masters to choose from each with different teaching styles. Like you could have had a master that specialised in force powers or one that was a pure saberist depending on what style of jedi you wanted to be.
 Jackel
09-29-2003, 6:05 AM
#3
Mara jade , shes way way better looking then the Bantha Herder

and also as shes more important to the rest of the SW universe it would have been more fun then Kyle "stop that Jaden" Kataran
 Andy867
09-29-2003, 6:48 AM
#4
C'mon people, 9 votes and only 2 response. Please post your reason for your choice or I may be forced to reset the poll.
 JediLurker
09-29-2003, 7:17 AM
#5
I voted for another student\master from the academy, but it was a close call between that and 'other'. I think it would have been cool to go on missions with another student. It would have been more realistic that way as well, given that one master can't watch more than one student at a given time unless they were both on the same planet\mission together. Besides, the missions where Kyle went with you got kinda dull. You didn't really need to do much while he was with you given that he outclassed you in every area. If it was another student, you'd both have to work and watch each others' backs.

That said, I almost went with 'other' because I also think it would have been kinda neat to have a mission or two(besides Chewie) where you have to work with a gunslinging non-force user. Maybe a mercenary that owes Kyle a few favors or something along those lines.
 Crow_Nest
09-29-2003, 7:23 AM
#6
I chose luke, cos he dies very fast.:D
 Kurgan
09-29-2003, 7:28 AM
#7
Kyle would be even better if he used guns as well as sabers and force, but then maybe it would be too easy... ; )
 Crow_Nest
09-29-2003, 7:29 AM
#8
Kyle would be even better if he used guns as well as sabers and force, but then maybe it would be too easy... ; )

He DID use the bryar pistol in JA, on the "Byss" mission
 Khaza
09-29-2003, 8:00 AM
#9
I would love the idea of two students wondering around trying to accomplish missions :D Traveling with Han & Chewie wouldn't be so bad either.

...so I voted for "Another student/Master from the Academy"

The least interesting option was Luke as Im really tired of his voice :)
 ESPFN
09-30-2003, 11:10 PM
#10
they should have brought in kyp durron or corran horn
 Lightsaberboy
09-30-2003, 11:12 PM
#11
kyle cause he ownz
 Kidso
09-30-2003, 11:24 PM
#12
Anyone know how to spawn random jedi in the full, in the demo you could do it but the code doesnt seem to work in full, any help would be great.
 StormHammer
09-30-2003, 11:40 PM
#13
I went with my gut instinct and voted for Kyle. I thought he was used quite well in JA...but at the same time, he could have given you more insights into 'why you should use the Force this way and not that way.' Of course, he still needs a change of clothes. :P

At the same time - it would have been good to see a few other Jedi Masters at the Academy, with strong characterisation. As it was, it appeared like 'Luke and Kyle's Jedi Training School'.

Also, it would have been good to see a few more helpers on some of the missions - again, with strong characterisation. I wanted to see Chewie not just shoot the bad guys, but pick a few up and toss them around. Basically, act like a Wookie on a bad hair day...and his appearance in the game could have been much longer.

It would be good to see a new 'Jedi Council' with a handful of respected Jedi Masters. And maybe one of them works for their own ends...and tries to seduce you to the Dark Side...
 Tesla
09-30-2003, 11:48 PM
#14
Keep Kyle.

I love the Vjun level when Kyle just taunts all the stormies, "This ones mine" always makes me laugh. :D
 Crow_Nest
10-01-2003, 3:45 AM
#15
Originally posted by Tesla
Keep Kyle.

I love the Vjun level when Kyle just taunts all the stormies, "This ones mine" always makes me laugh. :D

He always says "This ones mine!", but i always kill the stormtroopers first.:D Too bad Master Kyle Kartan.:p
 Ardent
10-01-2003, 3:48 AM
#16
Kyle was a thoroughly boring "master" and helper.

Personally, I'd've loved to see someone like Mika Reglia or Ganner Rhysode accompanying you as your student-companion, or perhaps another Jedi master more suited to the task at hand (Kam, Tionne, Streen etc) along as your babysitter.

But whatever. Dark Forces more or less shoves continuity out the window anyway, why put effort into it? :/
 Jaden_Sith
10-02-2003, 2:12 PM
#17
Originally posted by Ardent
Kyle was a thoroughly boring "master" and helper.

Personally, I'd've loved to see someone like Mika Reglia or Ganner Rhysode accompanying you as your student-companion, or perhaps another Jedi master more suited to the task at hand (Kam, Tionne, Streen etc) along as your babysitter.

But whatever. Dark Forces more or less shoves continuity out the window anyway, why put effort into it? :/


yea at the first i thoghed that kyle was lame....but in the fight between him and me he was really asskicking good...ha had powers that i havent ever seen anyone use....like that punching stuff...and the grip throw...*sumhow he always manages to hit the stone blocks with me*
 Sivy
10-02-2003, 2:39 PM
#18
Mace Windu..

wrong era i know, but it would be cool being mace's padawan.
 Prime
10-02-2003, 2:50 PM
#19
I'd like to keep Kyle because he is your master and it helps bridge JA with the Dark Forces series. Getting rid of Kyle would really make it a different series.
 Jaden_Sith
10-02-2003, 3:24 PM
#20
Originally posted by |GG|Crow_Nest
He always says "This ones mine!", but i always kill the stormtroopers first.:D Too bad Master Kyle Kartan.:p

acctually he also say *you cant be seriuos*
 Pedro The Hutt
10-02-2003, 6:08 PM
#21
Well, personally I would have loved to see a mission alongside Luke, I was looking forward to it, and suddenly I'm facing the final boss and it hits me that he never even got out his lightsaber. Ah well ^.^ There's always NPC spawn Luke

Mara Jade would've been cool too, she's long due for another game appearance XD

That and I also would have liked to see more of the original students of the academy besides a reference to one. But oh well, it's a very kick-ass game none the less, never was bored for a second.
 |GG|Carl
10-02-2003, 6:34 PM
#22
Mara Jade is hot...:blush2: Cool I mean...
 Astrotoy7
10-03-2003, 5:52 AM
#23
Mara Jade is hot... Cool I mean...

She is one of the greatest things the EU has produced, she must've been popular for the EU gurus to let her get married to Luke......not to mention the fact that they went and found a model to flesh her out, so to speak(Shannon Baksa, in the old decipher card game)

I loved MoTs, mainly because of her, and it was very cool to be able to play as her in the old PS1 game, Masters of Teras Kasi.....

Being paired with Mara would have been super cool ! Well maybe in a sequel(q3 engine or not) it could be NJO times and you could play one of Mara's apprentices, like Jaina Solo....
*EU fans drool*

MTFBWYA
 idontlikegeorge
10-03-2003, 7:05 AM
#24
You don't have Rosh Penin in there!

What, you forgot about his "leet" skills with the blaster shooting at howlers on Yavin?!

Some people!

:p :lol:

"I'd like to keep Kyle because he is your master and it helps bridge JA with the Dark Forces series. Getting rid of Kyle would really make it a different series."

I agree here.

"Personally, I'd've loved to see someone like Mika Reglia or Ganner Rhysode accompanying you as your student-companion, or perhaps another Jedi master more suited to the task at hand (Kam, Tionne, Streen etc) along as your babysitter."

Who the flying focher are these people? With Kyle Katarn and Luke being the main known characters, you don't have to be an EU nerd to know who's who.
 STTCT
10-03-2003, 7:21 AM
#25
I voted for Luke. I think its every padawin's dream to have him as your teacher and also to play along side him in the missions.
 Crow_Nest
10-03-2003, 7:33 AM
#26
Originally posted by STTCT
I voted for Luke. I think its every padawin's dream to have him as your teacher and also to play along side him in the missions.

Yeah, Luke and you fight with the reborns, but you won't even see him fight in JA!:mad:
 Andy867
10-03-2003, 8:26 AM
#27
I think Raven and LucasArts figured that people would like to see how Kyle Katarn would fight if NOT controlled by the player for once(twice if you include MOTS I think) and kind of show him off on how far he's come since his Mercenary days. Plus people got to see Luke fight in Jedi Outcast, so they figured Kyle would make a good choice. And is it me, or does Rosh remind you people of Maniac from the Wing Commander Series, especially 3 and 4
 Crow_Nest
10-03-2003, 10:09 AM
#28
And is it me, or does Rosh remind you people of Maniac from the Wing Commander Series, especially 3 and 4


eh... no
 SideArm
10-03-2003, 11:04 AM
#29
other student, it might have allowd co-op mp play on the single player misssions
 Crow_Nest
10-03-2003, 11:24 AM
#30
Originally posted by SideArm
other student, it might have allowd co-op mp play on the single player misssions

Yeah, coop. That would be great!

Only that you won't be able to see cutscenes.:(
 •-BLaCKouT-•
10-03-2003, 2:02 PM
#31
Originally posted by |GG|Carl
Mara Jade is hot...:blush2: Cool I mean...
Aye, count me in there too :D
Bring Jade back in! Even though I didn't really enjoy MotS that much.

Ah Mara...

B.
 Clemme w/Stick
10-03-2003, 6:37 PM
#32
Lets face it Kyle is da man.
Well, the games was made around Kyles adventures. So of course they'll have to keep him :).

-Clemme
 king yoda
10-03-2003, 9:02 PM
#33
mara jade. because no one looks better in jo or ja than she. only tavion in ja but she is bad.
 Jaden X
10-04-2003, 2:35 AM
#34
I voted for another student. You could have a student of the same race but with the opposite sex. Then they could make like a "romantic" Star Wars sotryline (Like Episode 2), but with something with the Sides of the Force. Like: You choose a Side, then he/she will choose the other one. Then you fight he/she in the last level. Having to fight the great love of your life... This will be very hard... even for Dark Siders. But when you beat he/she, you'll bring him/her to your Side, Then at least I think we'll have some better endings...
 Crow_Nest
10-04-2003, 7:22 AM
#35
I voted for another student. You could have a student of the same race but with the opposite sex

That means you can only have a student that is a human...
 Buffy
10-04-2003, 11:00 AM
#36
May I have Master Yoda ?
Yoda is Best for me ... but not in JA sorry:p
 Jaden X
10-04-2003, 11:06 AM
#37
Originally posted by |GG|Crow_Nest
That means you can only have a student that is a human...

That means they should do this in the next game...
 •-BLaCKouT-•
10-04-2003, 11:22 AM
#38
Thinking more about bringing Mara back in as a NPC...

Does anyone know of any conflicts between the plot of MotS and the EU?
The 'timeline' for any future games would be directly against the documented EU timeline. I know the games so far have been as well (but from Kyle's angle obviously) but bringing Mara in, would mean at least mentioning other central characters (other than Luke who we'll see anyway) which could mean... Yuuzhan Vong :D How happy would I be?

It'd be nice to have some new enemies to blat other than reborn and stormies. I really liked the Noghri in JA but I don't think they were in it enough. Hell, throw some Cortosis Shields into the mix and it'd be shweet!

B.
 Revan1138
10-04-2003, 6:04 PM
#39
I voted for Luke because I would have liked to see him use his saber at least once
 Crow_Nest
10-05-2003, 4:59 AM
#40
If you can edit new NPCs then we can make Yoda!

And Mara Jade!
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