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Jubatus

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Posted in: Consequences of rumours and gossip
  Jubatus
07-03-2003, 6:50 PM
#1
Recently saw a program about rumours, specifically how the true story is distorted through each link of the gossip chain, and rather radically too. One experiment was of a person describing a picture to a next person, who'd then describe it on to th...  [Read More]
Posted in: The pitfall of christianity?
  Jubatus
07-02-2003, 8:21 AM
#17
Well, that sure was a huge chunk of your usual stuff. I read through it and found nothing that hasn't already been adressed by me before in the 'Philosophy revival' thread, some things have been addressed several times. Only comment I have is: Fate d...  [Read More]
Posted in: The pitfall of christianity?
  Jubatus
07-01-2003, 5:57 PM
#15
Originally posted by Luc Solar I just skimmed this thread through and...ummm...what the hell are you guys talking about?! :confused: I don't think anyone addressed the actual topic yet. :D >> Can you control what you believe in? Do you have a...  [Read More]
Posted in: The pitfall of christianity?
  Jubatus
07-01-2003, 12:53 PM
#13
Originally posted by daring dueler yes, but we can change our own future, he may know what were gonna do, but he cant interfere with it. with our free will cant we change our future.its said god has a plan for us all, but if we dont eccpet the plan,...  [Read More]
Posted in: The pitfall of christianity?
  Jubatus
07-01-2003, 9:37 AM
#10
Originally posted by Homuncul You, agnostics are just so talented at asking irrelevant questions. Au contraire, these questions are very relevant. And we ask these questions not so much for an answer to ourselves but for the offchance that you you...  [Read More]
Posted in: The pitfall of christianity?
  Jubatus
06-30-2003, 7:26 PM
#8
Originally posted by Homuncul Redrum! Redrum! :mad: Again it turns out to be fate/free will debate Well, as I wrote that we ought to let it rest, it shouldn't have become one, but you just had to poke around in it, didn't ya :p so now, well.......  [Read More]
Posted in: The pitfall of christianity?
  Jubatus
06-29-2003, 5:45 PM
#5
Originally posted by daring dueler not really, we have many choices, we can live the way we want. with the freewill given by God,we have this choice, only we make the choice to beleive in god, or to live our life not beleiving. he cant interfere. an...  [Read More]
Posted in: The pitfall of christianity?
  Jubatus
06-27-2003, 11:27 PM
#2
Originally posted by Luc Solar ....IMHO it's not something you can choose... Nothing is choice, so you have 2 possibilities: 1) God does not exist, because with no free will there is no choice, ergo no responsibility, hence no judgement, thus no...  [Read More]
Posted in: Head transplants?
  Jubatus
06-30-2003, 7:09 PM
#33
Originally posted by legameboy It's just, cloning, transplants, sperm banks and all, I believe nature should take its path, we don't need science to pave natures trail. I will die, when I will die and that's that. Again is man's delusionally high...  [Read More]
Posted in: Head transplants?
  Jubatus
06-25-2003, 4:44 PM
#29
Originally posted by lukeskywalker1 lol hmmm, when you say, hold the flesh in such high esteem, you mean like with the new bodies... well, i mean even if you dotn believe in God, and you believe evolution, then you got what you got through evolution...  [Read More]
Posted in: Philosophy revival
  Jubatus
07-03-2003, 2:19 PM
#49
Originally posted by Homuncul Of course subjective. How else could it be? Although proof is a physical process, it's result is only always subjetive. My point is that I rely on them. Exactly, as we've both agreed upon early on in this debate. Ori...  [Read More]
Posted in: Philosophy revival
  Jubatus
07-03-2003, 12:36 PM
#47
Originally posted by Jah Warrior Jub's right you know, his philosophy by its very nature eliminates argument against it, which is why its so strong. find the flaw if it exists, as yet you aint done so, sorry. There is a flipside though, Jub's philo...  [Read More]
Posted in: Philosophy revival
  Jubatus
07-03-2003, 10:55 AM
#44
Originally posted by Homuncul Jah, I guess you stil didn't understand Jub the way I did. There is no way you can confuse him with calculating every cause and effect and not because it has some difficulties there, but just because every our action or...  [Read More]
Posted in: Philosophy revival
  Jubatus
07-02-2003, 7:23 PM
#42
Originally posted by Jah Warrior exactly, if you can figure out where every atom is at a given point in time and can calculate the effect of each atom upon other atoms then you can predict where this atom will go and what it will do. (assuming the...  [Read More]
Posted in: Philosophy revival
  Jubatus
07-02-2003, 4:14 PM
#40
Originally posted by Jah Warrior By that i mean the soul or the spirit, with the possible exception of george bush (j/k?) we all have a soul, dont we? :D I'm getting way in over my head now LOL. probably an easy one to pick apart:- With out soul...  [Read More]
Posted in: Philosophy revival
  Jubatus
07-02-2003, 12:49 PM
#38
Nothing in my view of fatalism says you shouldn't take any action, only that it might be ultimately futile. The example with the old lady set upon by a gang is a lesser matter than the fate of mankind and for that matter all of Creation, though it co...  [Read More]
Posted in: Philosophy revival
  Jubatus
07-02-2003, 10:22 AM
#36
Originally posted by Homuncul Then why accepting, why allowing a thought of it if there's no way you can perceive it? Why not throw it away? Isn't it complicated to have something you can't perceive? Why are you saying:"I guess fate is there, i...  [Read More]
Posted in: Philosophy revival
  Jubatus
07-02-2003, 8:28 AM
#34
Originally posted by Jah Warrior You may shoot me down in flames here, but having had a little think and of course a little herbal inspiration i have come to the conclusion that logic and emotion rely on one another as a counterbalance to each other...  [Read More]
Posted in: Philosophy revival
  Jubatus
07-02-2003, 8:23 AM
#33
Originally posted by Homuncul And what's the problem with explanation, ah Jub? If not with latter humans can possibly use another languages in time, more complex, with larger explanious capacity. It's all the matter of time. And no unknowable truth...  [Read More]
Posted in: Philosophy revival
  Jubatus
07-01-2003, 11:32 PM
#30
Originally posted by Jah Warrior woah woah woah.... easy fellas! ;) Well this is a thread that is beyond thought provoking, its borderline genius! I totally agree with Jub on almost all points here, there is sound logic in all points and as a man...  [Read More]
Posted in: Philosophy revival
  Jubatus
06-30-2003, 8:40 AM
#28
Originally posted by Homuncul You observe, contemplate and believe in uncertainty (which f course has nothing to do with science). Truth is unknowable and it's reflection (reality) is too uncertain for us to know anything trully. By the same mistake...  [Read More]
Posted in: Philosophy revival
  Jubatus
06-26-2003, 8:05 PM
#26
Originally posted by Homuncul Occam's razor relative to explanations says: "do not complicate explanations beyond necessity". because if they do, the unnecessary complications remain themselves unexplained. It goes with solipsism like this...  [Read More]
Posted in: Philosophy revival
  Jubatus
06-26-2003, 9:17 AM
#24
Originally posted by Homuncul It's too circular, Occam Razor would just exclude such matters. Let me again mention that you try to talk about truth, and say that it's unknowable and (maybe) scientific methods and models i propose are unsatisfactory,...  [Read More]
Posted in: Philosophy revival
  Jubatus
06-25-2003, 10:05 AM
#22
Originally posted by Homuncul You neglect then to call this a purpose. By pointless you mean objective uselessness. I could've named thousands of subjectively pointful things, but I named an objective purpose of life. Is that pointless even even obj...  [Read More]
Posted in: Why the Debate?
  Jubatus
07-01-2003, 11:26 PM
#12
Originally posted by Jah Warrior ego? I dont need to stimulate my ego, I already know I'm ALL that! Seriously though, I am open to being swayed on topics and will openly admit it when the need arises, If i were that closed mind that i were unsway...  [Read More]
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