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lightstaff / dual sabres

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 StormHammer
05-04-2003, 9:41 PM
#51
Originally posted by Blademaster_109
I was looking at all the saber staff pics and the problem is that they only swing with one hand. it looks stupid having there other had lay by there side "dead". What do u guys think.

Yes, you're absolutely right. All of the pictures released so far show the dual-staff only being held in one hand. While we don't know yet exactly what all of the moves, and therefore animations or hand-positions might be, I do think the weapon needs a two-handed grip for certain moves. After all, this is how Darth Maul fought with his signature blades, going from simgle-handed to double-handed grip depending on the blocks and attacks he was performing.

Well spotted. ;)
 Blademaster_109
05-04-2003, 9:41 PM
#52
all of them. go to

http://www.jk2files.com/file.stuff?body=academy#screenshots)

look at all of the saber staffs. its horrible.


thank u stormhammer.
 Break_dF
05-04-2003, 10:17 PM
#53
Originally posted by Emon
Sorry, I wasn't aware I was in the forum with people that make totally irrelevant, ignorant and unbased comments because they can't backup their argument.

sorry for my "unbaseness"... ha.:rolleyes:
 Blademaster_109
05-04-2003, 10:43 PM
#54
i was wrong, there is one pic where he is defending himself and using 2 hands to hold the light saber

here is the link
http://www.gamingfiles.com/screenshots/7/others/academy_005.jpg)

This one i'm not to sure about
http://www.gamingfiles.com/screenshots/7/others/academy_003.jpg)
 Emon
05-05-2003, 3:44 AM
#55
Originally posted by Break_dF sorry for my "unbaseness"... ha.:rolleyes:

Thank you for proving my point by noting that I made a minor spelling error. Your grammer isn't the greatest either.
 StormHammer
05-05-2003, 10:40 AM
#56
Originally posted by Blademaster_109
i was wrong, there is one pic where he is defending himself and using 2 hands to hold the light saber

here is the link
http://www.gamingfiles.com/screenshots/7/others/academy_005.jpg)


Well, it looks like it could be, although it's not very clear because of the bright flash. Anyway, well spotted again. :)

Emon and Break_dF...if you want to snipe at each other, please take it to PMs and keep this thread on topic. :cool:
 Prime
05-05-2003, 1:34 PM
#57
Originally posted by Break_dF
and 0 time beta-testing it... Just about every piece of software gets beta tested.

Originally posted by Break_dF
They're not going to do any external testing... Most software houses never do. It is rarely a controlled environment, and it takes much longer to get all the relavent information. That's why there are professional game testers. And they aren't just guys who "play games". :)

The reason why something like Galaxies gets a public beta testing is because there is no way for the software company (can't remember who is making it right now) to simulate the tens of thousands of people that would be playing at once. If they could, there would be no open test. The open beta is not mainly to find gameplay issues, but to find problems that pop up when the number of players get into the thousands.

Since JA will likely have no more than a few dozen or so players at a time, there is no need for them to have an open beta test. They can handle everything internally.
 Break_dF
05-05-2003, 6:01 PM
#58
Prime .. please. The dozens? Professional gamers? Give me a break. Have you played anything other than jko? Seriously? On a competitive level? They aren't beta testing for, I'm sure, "good" in-house reasons. But, let's not forget jko and the royal ****-up that the gameplay was. A few testers can not conclude what the gameplay will be like by spending 15 minutes in an ffa server. Why are you taking up for a company that obviously hasn't delivered in the past? I don't want a ****ty game people, jesus h.w. christ... all I want is a ****ing demo or an open beta where players like myself (who spend more time than the so-called professionals actually testing game mechanics) will be given a shot at it. And emon, please grow the **** up. Posting "unbaseness" had nothing to do with your spelling... damn.
 Prime
05-05-2003, 6:38 PM
#59
Originally posted by Break_dF
Prime .. please. The dozens? That's right. What is the maximum number of players that can play on a JO server at one given time? Is it not in the dozens?

Originally posted by Break_dF
Professional gamers? Give me a break. Not profession gamers. Professional testers. There is, of course, a big difference.

Originally posted by Break_dF
They aren't beta testing for, I'm sure, "good" in-house reasons. I have no idea what this means. What classifies as "good" reasons for you?

Originally posted by Break_dF
But, let's not forget jko and the royal ****-up that the gameplay was. Actually, the gameplay of 1.02 wasn't particularly bad. There were some bugs certainly, but the gameplay didn't go completely down the crapper until 1.03.

Originally posted by Break_dF
A few testers can not conclude what the gameplay will be like by spending 15 minutes in an ffa server. 15 minutes :rolleyes: More like months, and sometimes years. Testers spend the better part of their daily lives testing these things. I'm starting to get the impression you know very little about software development. Which, of course, not everyboy does.

Originally posted by Break_dF
Why are you taking up for a company that obviously hasn't delivered in the past? I am not trying to stick up for Raven per se. They did make some mistakes with JO. I was only trying to show why Raven likely didn't have a public beta. However, I do try and "talk up", as you put it, the software industry because many make claims and complaints while not knowing how things usually work in that industry of which I am a part.


Originally posted by Break_dF
I don't want a ****ty game people, jesus h.w. christ... all I want is a ****ing demo or an open beta where players like myself (who spend more time than the so-called professionals actually testing game mechanics) will be given a shot at it. That is the attitude that brought us the glory that is patch 1.03. Raven tryed to accomidate as many wildly varying opinions as possible.

I have no doubt you have many opinions on what JO should be, but you'll forgive me if I would rather trust professional testers. Although you obviously play a lot of games, I sort of doubt you spend as much time as those who do testing for a living.

P.S. The above is not in defense of Raven. There were certain problems that should have been caught. But in the software industry, this does not always happen for various reasons (management decisions, budgets, time constraints, resources). A lot of times known bugs are left in knowing that there will be a patch. In any case, an open beta is not the answer to these problems.
 Taos
05-05-2003, 7:17 PM
#60
So did you guys happen to miss StormHammer's warning? It's now time to take your argument to pm's. Break_dF, I suggest you start changing your attitude a bit....the other two seemed to be able to present their aguments without the langauge and the insults.....you should take note.
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