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France Debate

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 CagedCrado
03-14-2003, 7:29 PM
#1
www.francesucks.com)

Who is going to join me in boycotting french goods and burning french flags?
 mememe123
03-14-2003, 7:47 PM
#2
hmmm:rolleyes: I don't want to help burn flags or anything but I do think it's rather harsh that France aren't helping us (americans) get saddam. But then again who needs the French? We're the U.S. of A. we don't need those fags, screw 'em.:D
 CagedCrado
03-14-2003, 7:50 PM
#3
I agree. They are unclean, hairy, and drunks. No wonder they wont help us. Chirac and saddam share concubines.
 Breton
03-14-2003, 7:56 PM
#4
Ok, let's start a new poll instead. Who thinks this is the most immature and stupid thread this year? I do. CagedCrado, please grow up.
 CagedCrado
03-14-2003, 7:59 PM
#5
Realize how stupid you are for supporting people like france and realize they are hopeless and selfish for not letting us invade since they sold iraq weapons and own an oil field that they will lose because of it. Not my fault you are blind and quickly fall to socialist morons in europe.

Also i think that the soviets would be better than the current european governments since the soviets just blatantly opressed their people instead of controlling the media and filling the people with propaganda. Atleast the soviets didnt like terrorists either. Atleast the soviets were intelligent socialists.
 munik
03-14-2003, 8:01 PM
#6
Maybe a poll to see how long it takes cagedcrado to get banned for for all these inane bumps regarding the french.
 CagedCrado
03-14-2003, 8:05 PM
#7
Better than standing by and letting the french try to corrupt the world. And besides, there is only one side of the truth on this website, you arent looking at why the countries dont want to go to war, and its not because they dont like war.
 El Sitherino
03-14-2003, 8:08 PM
#8
Originally posted by CagedCrado
www.francesucks.com)

Who is going to join me in boycotting french goods and burning french flags? you suck more. you do realise france doesnt have enough money to go to war dont you?
 munik
03-14-2003, 8:09 PM
#9
Who cares? So the French don't want to go to war, big deal. The US can go in and fight whether the French like it or not. I believe that the French have some big cajones for standing up to the US in this sense.

The real test is to see whether they fold to the bullying, which will really pussify them, or stand against the US the whole time.
 Breton
03-14-2003, 8:09 PM
#10
Should I report this thread or not?

Anyway, I've decided to make CagedCrago look even more dumb before this is closed.

Realize how stupid you are for supporting people like france

France isn't a person. If you can't see the difference between a goverment and a people, then I suggest you open your eyes a bit.

and realize they are hopeless and selfish for not letting us invade

So now it's selfish to care about the consequenses of war in Iraq :rolleyes: . You (Caged, not talking about US) have no idea what war even is, and is a strong supporter of a world dictatorship, though I don't know whether or not you know you are.

since they sold iraq weapons and own an oil field that they will lose because of it

I see propaganda has gotten to you. Let me remind you that USA gave Iraq loads of weapons, and is needing Iraq's oil much more than France.

Not my fault you are blind and quickly fall to socialist morons in europe.

:rolleyes:

Also i think that the soviets would be better than the current european governments since the soviets just blatantly opressed their people instead of controlling the media and filling the people with propaganda. Atleast the soviets didnt like terrorists either. Atleast the soviets were intelligent socialists.

I have no idea on how to make that statement more ridicoulus, so I'll just say :rolleyes:
 CagedCrado
03-14-2003, 8:14 PM
#11
The US gave iraq weapons before it was illegal moron, and i did not fall to propaganda because i chose to stand behind it myself. And if this was on a good forum filled with people who have actually been to war, guess who would win. Ive talked to SOLDIERS. That is far more than your pot smoking friends.

BTW: the people of france and the people are the same. A government and its people are the same in my eyes as one cannot exist without the other.

I dont support dictators so i dont support saddam.... hmmm

Oh ya and you are a supporter of yet another kind of dictatorship where democrats control the media, well they are liberals but almost as dumb. (just almost)

Im not saying france has to help, i just dont see what it has to do with them beyond the illegal things they did.
 Breton
03-14-2003, 8:17 PM
#12
Alright, I've had enough.

*reports CagedCrado*
 El Sitherino
03-14-2003, 8:19 PM
#13
uhm..... heh alot of people oppposed to this stuff are ex military personnel.
 CagedCrado
03-14-2003, 8:24 PM
#14
Not any that i have seen. I was over stating myself earlier but my stand is still the same. If you do not support stopping evil people who persecute people then you are helping it. Negotiations wont work. Saddam will not negotiate. War is the only answer to deal with this mad man.
 CagedCrado
03-14-2003, 8:37 PM
#15
And why is it i feel the same about people like you? Oh well, most of you will get to see what hell is actually like.

Oh ya, and its WAR. Its not a peaceful little joy ride... and those things happen in any war. Its not because they are americans, its because they are people. You will find the government is much better than the governments of other countries. Most countries take over countries and are suppresive. The united states is not like that. Had the soviets invaded iraq (or like the europeans did when they ACTUALLY DID invade iraq) brutally terrorize and put the people into selfish positions. The united states is not entirely good, but its far better than iraq or what you think it is.
 El Sitherino
03-14-2003, 8:39 PM
#16
people like me, exactly what kind of person am i?
 CagedCrado
03-14-2003, 8:41 PM
#17
The bad and selfish kind. Its not a war for oil. Its a war for the iraqi people. We could easily buy oil for a lot less than it costs to fight a war.
 El Sitherino
03-14-2003, 8:45 PM
#18
Originally posted by CagedCrado
The bad and selfish kind. Its not a war for oil. Its a war for the iraqi people. We could easily buy oil for a lot less than it costs to fight a war. ha you obviously dont know much about the world. and yeah man im selfish thats why i want everyone to agree with me and conform to the ****head society.:rolleyes: and im so selfish thats why i dont care about possessions. man im so selfish:rolleyes: [/sarcasm]
 CagedCrado
03-14-2003, 8:47 PM
#19
I didnt say you had to agree. Ever. Now you arent even talking about the subject.

By the way, the war will cost 300 billion dollars. We could buy 60,000,000 barrels of oil for that. The war isnt for oil.
 El Sitherino
03-14-2003, 8:50 PM
#20
man i so didnt know about the cost of the war....:rolleyes:
and thats not the point the point is we want FREE oil.
 CagedCrado
03-14-2003, 8:57 PM
#21
300 billion dollars isnt free oil.... not counting paying off countries who arent smart enough to join us. We wanted free oil, wed invade venezuela.
 El Sitherino
03-14-2003, 9:06 PM
#22
Originally posted by CagedCrado
300 billion dollars isnt free oil.... not counting paying off countries who arent smart enough to join us. We wanted free oil, wed invade venezuela. yeah right. you know how many war crimes that would be. the war with iraq is already bordering if not crossing wartime laws
 CagedCrado
03-14-2003, 9:10 PM
#23
War crimes are for the losers of war. Winners never get accused. We put the japs into camps for national security, we probably stopped a few spies but it was inhumane. The winner doesnt get in trouble with war crimes.

I have to go now but im not done.

Oh ya and what is the UN going to do? bichor until they all run out of moisture in their pallets like they do now and then waste even more time in the non entity called the UN?
 wassup
03-14-2003, 10:03 PM
#24
:rolleyes:

Ill be back after dinner...
 ET Warrior
03-14-2003, 10:13 PM
#25
Yeah......France sure does suck....since they dont want war....makes perfect sense......
BTW: the people of france and the people are the same. A government and its people are the same in my eyes as one cannot exist without the other.

Well, first of all, i will assume you mean the GOVERNMENT of france and the people are the same, otherwise you are stating the PAINFULLY obvious.
Secondly, that is approximately the least intelligent thing i've ever seen posted on this forum. Basically you're saying that even though the people CAN'T really control the government, and even if they ALL were SCREAMING for war, as long as the government says no, they don't go to war.
Also, by your logic, it is MY fault that the economy is so bad, and taxes are high. Since i'm the same as the government. Maybe we should all just beat the crap out of me so i'll stop making our economy so bad!

I will NOT boycott French food, and i would NEVER burn a french flag....EVER. I wouldn't burn any flag....that's immature and pointless. "Yeah! I just bought this flag, so now i'll set it on fire to prove a point!"

Maybe i'll go to mcdonalds right now, i kind of have a craving for FRENCH fries
 El Sitherino
03-14-2003, 10:17 PM
#26
Originally posted by ET Warrior
Yeah......France sure does suck....since they dont want war....makes perfect sense......


Well, first of all, i will assume you mean the GOVERNMENT of france and the people are the same, otherwise you are stating the PAINFULLY obvious.
Secondly, that is approximately the least intelligent thing i've ever seen posted on this forum. Basically you're saying that even though the people CAN'T really control the government, and even if they ALL were SCREAMING for war, as long as the government says no, they don't go to war.
Also, by your logic, it is MY fault that the economy is so bad, and taxes are high. Since i'm the same as the government. Maybe we should all just beat the crap out of me so i'll stop making our economy so bad!

I will NOT boycott French food, and i would NEVER burn a french flag....EVER. I wouldn't burn any flag....that's immature and pointless. "Yeah! I just bought this flag, so now i'll set it on fire to prove a point!"

Maybe i'll go to mcdonalds right now, i kind of have a craving for FRENCH fries PREACH IT ET! :)
 Malcontent
03-14-2003, 10:25 PM
#27
The war in iraq is a necessary one IMO. France pumps oil directly out of iraq. If we invade, their supply will end, they don't want that. Not to mention that Chirac (sp?) is as corrupt as it gets and he's also buddy-buddy with hussein. So France's credibility is shot right there. France is not a world power, they're weak and will surrender if someone takes one step over their border with ill-intent.
So why target Saddam Hussein when we should be focusing on the terrorists and bin-laden? Because saddam harbors these terrorists. There are terrorist training camps in Iraq, and don't tell me that hussein doesn't know about it.
Lets not forget the WTC bombing back in '93 either. The mastermind of that fiasco recieved funding from saddam hussein and there is factual evidence to prove it. They have ignored 18 UN resolutions, they have fired at US aircraft several times in the no-fly zone over the past few years, and they lie about their weapons of mass descruction. How do we know they lied? Because we sold them to him during the cold war. We got the reciepts, he's got the weapons. Maybe less now because he does have a tendency to use them on his own people.
About the oil . . . .
%15 of the US's total oil supply comes from the middle east. Most of our oil comes from . . . Canada. If this were a war about oil, we'd lift the sanctions on iraq and the prices would drop tomorrow. And how can Bush and his oil buddies profit if the price of oil drops anyway? No, oil is not the reason the US is going after Iraq. If anything, oil is France's number one reason for their opposition. Those opposed to the war use oil as their reason because they have nothing else to argue with.
I'm not here to advocate a war. Nobody wants a war. But a lot of people don't, or choose not to see the world as it is. This is WW3. And it isn't the nuclear holocaust people 20 and 30 years ago thought it would be. War has been declared on us by muslim radicals and we have to act. Peace through Victory. Thats the way its always been and thats the way it will be.
Disagree if you want, thats the beauty of free-speech. However do me and the rest of the country a favor and look at the FACTS before going out to your next peace rally crying about oil.

~Malcontent
 GonkH8er
03-14-2003, 11:24 PM
#28
Ok, so let's look at this from a perspective of someone other than a whiney little american who's supporting bush.

France does own oil-fields.... I'm sure that MAY be a reason why they don't want war, which is fair enough. The oil fields are in a diplomatic agreement with the country, so if the US attacks and the country goes to hell, france loses their oil.


Why exactly is it OK for france to lose their oil? It's not. It's their bloody oil. FFS people, listen to what you're saying. If America goes in and pretty much destroys Iraq, the diplomatic oil agreement will be void, and France will lose their oil. The oil will be up for grabs, and guess who's going to want it. That's right, good ol' uncle sam and his thirsty car filled country.

France does NOT suck for not wanting war, in fact, I'm rather inclined to say Bush sucks for wanting war. What kind of idiot WANTS a war? If we just backed off, and left Iraq alone, they wouldnt do anything. They are NOT a world conquering country. They have weapons there incase they are attacked for some reason, FOR DEFENSE..... and they are being attacked, so don't expect them not to use them. If america attacks and Iraq uses WMD's, don't blame iraq. Blame your stupid president, because Saddam just wants weapons to defend his country. And don't give me any crap about "Oooooh, he'll sell them to terrorists".

If terrorists want WMD's, they'll go to india or russia or pakistan. Terrorist organisations could get weapons much easier from those countries, and many others.

It's a stupid war and this is a stupid thread. You cannot honestly just bash a country because they don't want a war. A country that's crying for blood is the pathetic country.


Just remember, it's not us who's being invaded. It's Iraq......


This thread will close soon
 GonkH8er
03-14-2003, 11:29 PM
#29
Originally posted by CagedCrado
BTW: the people of france and the people are the same. A government and its people are the same in my eyes as one cannot exist without the other.


Just so you know, almost all of our country, Australia, is opposed to our Prime Ministers actions. We even passed a vote of no confidence in him, but it's done nothing. Our troops are being sent, and noone here wants it. Something like 84% of our population is totally opposed to our involvement in this war. The people are NOT like the government.
 Darth Groovy
03-14-2003, 11:43 PM
#30
 Malcontent
03-14-2003, 11:55 PM
#31
<< And don't give me any crap about "Oooooh, he'll sell them to terrorists". >>

Tell me that when a bunch of arabs fly some jumbo jets into one of your major cities. It was a wake-up call. You don't like it? Doesn't matter because we're going in anyway. Whether this war is "stupid" or not, we're going in. And I'd like to see any country try to stop us. Welcome to now.
 wassup
03-14-2003, 11:59 PM
#32
Malcontent is right...this war is inevitable, not that I'm supporting it. Bush is already too deep in crap to crawl out of it so lets just drop all the arguements and bickering and try to get through these tough times as 1 united human race.

"It is inevitable...It is your DESTINY." ~ Emperor Palpatine
 GonkH8er
03-15-2003, 3:40 AM
#33
When arabs fly a jumbo jet into one of our cities? That's hardly anything to do with WMD's. You want us and iraq to stop producing 747's? Should we outlaw air transportation in a UN agreement? If terrorists want to do something, they will. Just because 1 less nation is producing SOME of the things they could use, that doesn't mean they wont be able to get their hands on it. They might just produce some botulinum toxin, maybe get their hands on some smallpox. They'll do whatever they want, and Irq not having weapons won't stop them if they want to strike. It's got nothing to do with terrorists...

Had our idiotic prime minister not gone and sucked up to bush the same way blair is, we wouldnt be a target. I agree it's too late to stop. Bush wont leave Iraq without a fight. There's no way he'll take his forces back without crushing a few thousand people. But you've got to realise Bush supposedly has all this info showing obvious connections to current terrorist groups and Iraq supplying weapons. Why exactly he is not sharing this information, with anyone....
 Breton
03-15-2003, 3:47 AM
#34
Originally posted by Malcontent
Not to mention that Chirac (sp?) is as corrupt as it gets and he's also buddy-buddy with hussein

What's the matter with you? Bush's "you're either with us or against us" is nothing but silly cowboy talk and must never be taken serious in a serious world. Chirac came to power the usual way, he was voted in there. And if you belive France stand alone, you are sooo wrong. Germany, Russiam, China, Syria and other countries agrees with France. Perhaps they are corrupt too? Bull.

Tell me that when a bunch of arabs fly some jumbo jets into one of your major cities. It was a wake-up call. You don't like it? Doesn't matter because we're going in anyway. Whether this war is "stupid" or not, we're going in. And I'd like to see any country try to stop us. Welcome to now.

Hehe. Tell me, was Saddam responsible for 9/11? Course not. Let's imagine that a few Italians did something nasty to Germany. Then it would be pretty stupid to invade Poland to stop the terror, wouldn't it?
 C'jais
03-15-2003, 9:37 AM
#35
Anymore dumb comments about France's alleged "treason" and this thread is going bye-bye.

Christ people! Take a look at yourselves! Are you thinking of shipping back the statue of liberty to France, and boycotting all French inventions as well?

Crado, you better start growing up fast, or you'll be banned.
 Luc Solar
03-15-2003, 4:20 PM
#36
 SupremePain
03-15-2003, 5:14 PM
#37
:disaprove
 ckcsaber
03-15-2003, 5:52 PM
#38
Meh, I personally do not care that France is not helping the US the war. I doubt they would make much of a difference.
 griff38
03-15-2003, 6:00 PM
#39
Originally posted by CagedCrado
War crimes are for the losers of war.


Oh ya and what is the UN going to do? bichor until they all run out of moisture in their pallets like they do now and then waste even more time in the non entity called the UN?


War crimes are for the losers of war?
Then why does Bush refuse to paticipate on international war crimes laws? Because he wants US to be exempt from the same standards as the rest of our fellow humans. You do think the French and Iraqis are humans like US don't you?

Do you know what Facsism is? Your tone reminds me of 1930s Germany.

Which means you are on the darkside.

If I ever see you online you know I will beat you

If I ever meet you I will CTR+ALT+DELETE You
 SupremePain
03-15-2003, 6:16 PM
#40
personaly i dont get why this thread hasent been closed yet, or atleast edit some of CagedCrado's post they are pretty racist....:disaprove
 C'jais
03-15-2003, 8:57 PM
#41
Originally posted by SupremePain
personaly i dont get why this thread hasent been closed yet, or atleast edit some of CagedCrado's post they are pretty racist....:disaprove

Because we're having too much fun reading his horsesh*t...

:D

I'm serious, and this thread is closed.

That was the laugh for today.
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