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Covenant Elite

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 PIo Koon
03-14-2002, 8:40 PM
#1
i wasn't planning on asking him...hes to busy lol

and get ahead of myself?...just setting up a rough path..we need it finished and mapped first i know
 PIo Koon
07-18-2002, 6:39 AM
#2
hey Everyone

well im tired of seeing the Elite in Halo and i wanna play as one really bad

so..im going to make an ettempt to TRY and make a Covenant Elite

i tried 2 tiems last night and i just kept ****ed up lol

if ANYONE can find FRONT BACK OR SIDE pictures of him relaxed and not opened mouth i would REALLY appreciate them

i had the 2 very good pics from bungie's truth and reconcilliation site but i need some better pics

or if someone wants to draw them (Icepool i would really love it if u could draw him good, i know ur a good drawer BUT its only if u want to, im happy with the IAG pics u drew)

but i should have some WIP pics if i don't **** it my last 2 attempts...unless someone makes him im NOT going to stop until i make him


and if u think he won't fit into the bone structure...ur wrong...he will =O)


so plz..SOMEONE make him..i can't nail his head worth ****
 icepool
07-18-2002, 7:26 AM
#3
I'd draw him for you but i dont have a clue as to who he is. Unfortunately I've never been able to play Halo or even an xbox due to limited money over the last year.:(
 VampireHunterD
07-18-2002, 7:29 AM
#4
So much for reading this thread.

Anyway good luck on whatever you're trying to make.

*flies away in search of something a little more interesting*
 icepool
07-18-2002, 7:30 AM
#5
http://halo.bungie.org/screenshots/msxbox.031301/h2.jpg)
Dont know if this pic is any good but check this out!
 icepool
07-18-2002, 7:33 AM
#6
I think you'll definately like these pics front and back if this is the right creature.
http://halo.bungie.org/conceptart/artpages/elitecov.html)
 PIo Koon
07-18-2002, 8:07 AM
#7
Vampire..don't be an ass

it doesn't say WIP: so don't act like u got up hopes or something...damn least i don't insult your ideas...

i really hate people like that

anyway icepool yea thats him...first pic is him...2'nd pic is old but still him
 agentj64
07-18-2002, 8:12 AM
#8
Hey i'd model it too:p was thinking about it actualy
lets see your WIPs maybe we can help out :\
I happen to have a copy of XBOX right with me:d
Now If I could just reprogram it so I can disable AI in HALO:D..
ahh


Shaders are goign to be a MASSIVE factor in this model however:)
 PIo Koon
07-18-2002, 8:13 AM
#9
thankx Agent..

SpartnII@hotmail.com
ZeroX393

Spartn is my MSN name and Zero is my AIM name..message me on MSN im avoiding someone on AIM lol

also ill get my digital camera and take some in game pics...thers like 4 different elites for EACH color so i dunno what one im going to get lol
 Sounds Risky
07-18-2002, 8:25 AM
#10
I can think of five classes of Elites. No reason they can't all be in the game seeing as how they're just different colors.
 Darth Xhan
07-18-2002, 8:34 AM
#11
There are three classes of Elite.

Red and Blue command Squads.

Purple and Maroon are the Word and Will version. They are shock/commando versions of the above.

Gold Elites command entire Units. there are only 8 in the game on Legendary.

I will say you are going to be VERY hard pressed to make one with only as many polys as are available.. And you're going to have to have custom animations for EVERYTHING.
 Sounds Risky
07-18-2002, 8:37 AM
#12
Ok then, five colors of Elites. Blue, red, gold, silver, and black.
 PIo Koon
07-18-2002, 8:43 AM
#13
darth it will work as a regular player

and as for ranks your wrong lol

each color has about 3 differnt helmets

round

3 points

and some other i think it only has 2 points that are in the middle

and they are for all the dark blue

then red

then light blue

then gold

then platnium

i have the game and i get bored..what can i say =OD

as for grunts...no one cares lol
 menemeth
07-19-2002, 3:35 AM
#14
 menemeth
07-19-2002, 3:39 AM
#15
The complete list of Elite colors is as follows:
Blue (Basic)
Red (Higher Ranking)
Cloaked
Un-Cloaked Silver-Blue
Gold (Highest Ranking)
Black (Covert Ops)

I belive Gold would be the best choice, I also have a Covenant plasma sword in the works right now. Let me know if you would like to use it
-Menemeth-@excite.com
 PIo Koon
07-19-2002, 4:14 AM
#16
i won't be able to make him =O\

so i think someone else of better modeling talents should try...i can't nail his head really well or his upper body...so i won't be able to make him =O(
 PIo Koon
07-19-2002, 5:26 AM
#17
lol..i always give up to soon

what do u think...i think i nailed it pretty damn good on my 5'th try

http://www.renegademods.info/users/SpartnII/EliteHeadTest.jpg)

i know it still needs work...but i think that head is promising

what do u guys think?

also i know im not going to be able to model his whole body, seeing as im having such a hard time with his head...so im gunu need help..agent if u still want to respond to my PM


PS: and im glad someone is anticipating it

if anyone ever played C&C Renegade...i was the one who was making Zero: SP

but that damn community doesn't help worth **** so it died...

but i still have lots of halo models...........=O)

BTW: these are the main pictures im using to model this biatch

http://www.renegademods.info/users/SpartnII/Elite.jpg)
http://www.renegademods.info/users/SpartnII/Elite2.jpg)


grrrr....why doesn't bungie have quicktime 160 rotation movies of the covenant like they do marines!!!! =O(
 Sebulba-Dug
07-19-2002, 5:50 AM
#18
Nice job on the head, but i'm thinking the body is gonna be a hell of a lot harder because of the dog-like legs.
 PIo Koon
07-19-2002, 5:52 AM
#19
the legs arn't a prob for me...they'll fit on the bone sctructure its not hard..but it'll be a lil challenging to make
 PIo Koon
07-19-2002, 6:52 AM
#20
updated pic

http://www.renegademods.info/users/SpartnII/EliteTest.jpg)

im happy with the neck and ok with the head...the chest is probly a standin for now though
 agentj64
07-19-2002, 6:57 AM
#21
Darnit lol PIo!

Ill try my hand it now:P

im in #jediknight (the chat room for jediknightii.net)
so if u wanna work together:p
i dont got AIM but meh i guess ill have to get trillium!

ill post my version soon:D

err i hope

oh oh wait!
SHAMELESS PLUG
blrrr

http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70191)


:)


Good job
though and yes the backward knees is sure to be a problem, but im sure you could just modle them out and move back the envelopes in SKIN
 PIo Koon
07-19-2002, 7:03 AM
#22
agent im there..only if u talked lol
 agentj64
07-19-2002, 7:55 AM
#23
Did you just die in the channel?
 Sebulba-Dug
07-19-2002, 8:48 AM
#24
Body with the head looks real good! :ltblubou: :redbounc: :grnbounc: :bounc5: :blubounc: :urpboun: :yelbounc: :bounc4:
 cROsIs**
07-19-2002, 9:44 AM
#25
L00king good.


Btw, wouldnt it be real easy to take the Swamp Trooper and make him, ehem Master Chief?
 PIo Koon
07-19-2002, 10:03 AM
#26
Crosis...yea we could do that...

or..this is a crazy idea..but maybe...just maaaaaaaaaaybe use the master chief model i have =OP

its the same master chief model that Alex Wright put into CS
 menemeth
07-19-2002, 10:28 AM
#27
Im glad you could figure it out, it looks great! hehe this is going to be better than yoda! did you see the site I posted for taunts? and if so which one are you going to use? If you need anymore refrence stuff just give a hollar and ill be ready. Also my covent plasma Sowrd is almost done ill try to post some pictures soon although im going to have trouble getting it in-game dues to animations restrictions.
 Sounds Risky
07-19-2002, 10:39 AM
#28
I think "Your death is the will of the Gods" should be the taunt.
 agentj64
07-19-2002, 11:40 AM
#29
*huff puff*

K
4 hours of modeling
head done!
un opted

body tomorrow
yes yes
then armor..feet..all done tomorrow
oh oh book read must read book for shcool
yes yes
but will finish model! night tonight..tired..hands falling off

asleep agentJ goes asleep

totalltoo
 Darth Xhan
07-19-2002, 12:17 PM
#30
Invisible Elites are blue elites...

and Maroon and Purple ARE the Spec Op elites. The Word and The Will. With the Platinum Armoring.


As for the model.. nice... But his jaw(s) is too Charlton Heston/Kirk Douglas... Can you make it more narrow and smaller heigthwise? Remember everything comes to a smooth slope when his jaws are closed... (For the GOLD ELITES, the ones with the swept back three/five point heads, which are the coolest heads IMO, and the one you seem to be modeling) (and yes, I understand you are working under duress and the restraints of the polycount restrictions :cool: ) Your jaw seems taken from the "fin" head Elites.. the three or Five "point" headed Gold Elites have a narrow jaw.

The other heads are the "fin" heads (last pic) and the "spear" heads (shown in the pic with the red elite neck shot and the two blues putting the double team smackdown on the flood)

http://halo.bungie.org/screenshots/truthandrecon.060702/a50_34.jpg)

http://halo.bungie.org/screenshots/truthandrecon.041102/scrn_086.jpg)

http://halo.bungie.org/screenshots/truthandrecon.032202/20.jpg)

http://halo.bungie.org/screenshots/truthandrecon.020802/a10_07.jpg)

http://halo.bungie.org/screenshots/truthandrecon.020802/a10_23.jpg)

http://halo.bungie.org/screenshots/truthandrecon.011802/scrn_070.jpg)

http://halo.bungie.org/screenshots/truthandrecon.011802/scrn_070.jpg)

In any case, I'll be the first to download it..
 Azrael
07-19-2002, 12:29 PM
#31
Does anyone know of a working X-Box emulator? I wanna play halo, but I don't want to to go blow four hundred bucks for a system.
 Darth Xhan
07-19-2002, 12:49 PM
#32
The only emulator out is a Trojan. NOt a good idea to DL..

The PC version is due out in May 'O3
 PIo Koon
07-19-2002, 1:01 PM
#33
don't talk about emulators plz..keep it with the model =OP

i didn't really get what u wanted me to do to the jaw but o well..im still making the head so ill probly do it without even noticing
 PIo Koon
07-19-2002, 1:21 PM
#34
3 Tip
4 Tip
Round Tip

all of those heads for the elite are done
 Darth Xhan
07-19-2002, 1:38 PM
#35
What I mean was make the BOTTOM of the jaw smaller and narrower. Suck it in.... and as for the front of the face it should be SMOOTH, no gap, on the gold elite (pointy head) You have a gap on top, like the fin heads have.. the pointy heads don't.. It's like it's one piece until they speak. (like the top picture link)
 Darth Xhan
07-19-2002, 1:47 PM
#36
Sorry I'm being anal.. but I am ALL about Halo.. and Bungie in general.. And the Gold Elite is one of my favorite characters of all time.
 PIo Koon
07-19-2002, 1:54 PM
#37
um........what gap................................
 Darth Xhan
07-19-2002, 2:11 PM
#38
the jutting out part on the forehead.. in the side view you provided.. the part of his forehead that sticks out farther than the rest of his face... It shouldn't. The side view would look like one continuous piece..
 Darth Xhan
07-19-2002, 2:24 PM
#39
Like so:

http://halo.bungie.org/screenshots/truthandrecon.060702/a50_34.jpg)

Notice the top of his head.. more of a slant, and if his jaws were closed it would look like one piece.

It's really late.. sorry if this makes no sense..
 PIo Koon
07-19-2002, 10:47 PM
#40
ok...take my WIP..and edit the pic...cuz i have no clue what ur talking about lol..the mouth IS one piece on the model

im not trying to make u feel stupid or anything but i have no clue really what ur talking about heh


Agent..need some screenies man =OP



([])

http://www.renegademods.info/users/SpartnII/3HeadElite.jpg)

3 elite head pics with body
 agentj64
07-20-2002, 1:38 AM
#41
 PIo Koon
07-20-2002, 3:03 AM
#42
no no no no no agent!!

those pics are'nt even the same version and there BOTH old versions lol
 PIo Koon
07-20-2002, 3:36 AM
#43
another updated pics

http://www.renegademods.info/users/SpartnII/Elite4tip.jpg)
http://www.renegademods.info/users/SpartnII/Elite3tip.jpg)
http://www.renegademods.info/users/SpartnII/Eliteround.jpg)

now thers in-armor-skin and arms...all of it is still being tweaked

agent i wanna see ur version danget lol
 PIo Koon
07-20-2002, 5:09 AM
#44
OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

....wow....all i gotta say is...

every Halo fan that plays this game is going to have a heart attack.....

Agent just sent me his version of what he has so far...and well....

u guys are in for a REAL big surprise...im still in shock..my gawd its ****ing awesome!!!!!!!


AND i bet its not going to break 2000 polies!!!...it will be around 1500 polies i bet
 Sounds Risky
07-20-2002, 6:16 AM
#45
Has he updated it since yesterday? It was looking quite good then but he said he wasn't finished with the head yet.
 PIo Koon
07-20-2002, 6:35 AM
#46
i don't think so..im pretty sure not

but Matt..he sent me the file and i edited his jaw and eye area...and it looks more like him now

he also has the upper body and lower torso...and it looks ****ing awesome!!!!!!!!!!...get in #JediKnight



hmm...the jediknight chat seemed to die...it took me out of the chat and when i refreshed the page it got some error..so i pressed go back and cliked chat and the same thing...hmm
 agentj64
07-20-2002, 6:40 AM
#47
http://server49.hypermart.net/agentj64/cov.jpg)

NJoy
5 hours of work

I'm off to get braces now



PS, thanks Matt you r0x0rz;)
PSS, all crit welcome! tear it apart flame i don't care!
__________________

AWESOME PLUG: (screw shameless)

http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70191)

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 Sebulba-Dug
07-20-2002, 6:44 AM
#48
Oh... my... god.... NEED COVENANT ELITE MODEL!!! SO GOOD!!:explode: :bounfire:
 Darth Xhan
07-20-2002, 6:46 AM
#49
ok...

It's like this:

Fin head:

--------\
*******\
***eyes /
****** /
---------\
******* \
mouth***|
********|
--------- /

Which is what you have.


Spike Head: (Gold)

-----------\
******** \
**eyes*** \
------------|
**********|
**mouth***|
-----------/

I wasn't saying that the mouth is a solid piece.. It's his eye/browline. There's no forehead protrusion on a Gold Elite. The spike heads also have smaller jaws, not so blocky, like the difference between a T-Rex and a "Raptor".

Why don't you guys release both of them together? I would love to see both.

Agent... umm well... It's not an Elite from the game... but it's damn cool... scrunch the jaw in, and make his face thinner.. and your damn close.
 agentj64
07-20-2002, 6:46 AM
#50
:)
im doign something liek that not to worry!
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