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Super Computer

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 muchafraid
05-01-2000, 4:47 AM
#1
I am getting a new computer soon, I was wondering as to what your thoughts would be or what would you consider a 'good' gaming system. I think the voodoo5 will be out this summer sometime. Any help would be great.

muchafraid
 psyduck78
05-01-2000, 4:51 AM
#2
I have a pretty high expectation for a really good computer. http://www.jediknight.net/mboard/biggrin.gif)

A Dual Pentium Motherboard
A nvidia GeForce 256 DDR
256 MB RAM
At least 20 gigs of HD space(mp3s!)
Soundblaster Live! Platinum
A Network Card, that is 10/100
A Cable Modem
40x CD ROM or DVD Rom
CD-RW: TDK
Iomega Internal Zip
Cambridge Digital Desktop Theatre System
And Finally Pentium III 700 mhz.

Oh and a printer if you're ordering one.
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 muchafraid
05-01-2000, 5:08 AM
#3
maybe keeping it in the Fifteen Hundred dollar price range, what would you all consider good? http://www.jediknight.net/mboard/wink.gif)

muchafraid
 Kylilin
05-01-2000, 6:13 AM
#4
check out dell.com, they have some pretty good deals, and they're pretty good computers

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 Ikhnaton
05-01-2000, 12:09 PM
#5
Build your own machine.

I just built an Athlon 700-based computer and it cost me a bunch less then buying from one of those steenking big companies.
 theahnfahn
05-01-2000, 3:28 PM
#6
Ikhnaton:
Wait till you figure out the 9V cable you attached to a 6V input fries your system, then we'll see what a few extra bucks will do ya! And you get warranties and such from big companies. I'm not saying nobody should build their own system, I'm just saying you shouldn't recommend it to people who don't do networking for a living like you do.

Muchafraid:
Everyone overlooks this, and I find it so hard to believe. Paying a huge chunk of cash for a fast processor may seem like a good idea, but don't. It is so extremely stupid. Think about what really makes the difference for your system, something that will last even through your next computer. Your monitor. I couldn't explain to you the difference a 21 in. monitor has had on my life! Would you rather pay an extra $300 for a faster processor and a few extra frames per second in a game, or would you spend it on an incredible display that would actually do justice to the millions of polygons your computer can handle? Don't get any less than a 19 in. monitor, I beg of you. I would also recommend that you buy the sound system I have now. Get a Soundblaster Live: X-gamer audio card along with the Klipsch Promedia speakers. That couple will run you $350, but again you can use these speakers with your next computer. Of course I got mine for free http://www.jediknight.net/mboard/smile.gif) Take it from someone who has personally experience audio heaven, spend the big cash on this sound setup and spend more conservatively when it comes to the processor. I got my PIII 500 over a year ago, and it still holds strong in the recent games even though my videocard sucks. And speaking of, get the new GeForce II that is coming out soon. And buy from Dell. They are simply the best. My last two computers were Dell brand. And of course, these are the words of an individual living in Austin, the Dell headquarters http://www.jediknight.net/mboard/smile.gif)


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 Ikhnaton
05-01-2000, 5:24 PM
#7
actually, taf, it's not as complicated as you might think. I didn't have to worry about voltage incompatibilities and stuff like that, and all the products that I bought came with at least a one year warranty, repair or replace.
 Argath
05-01-2000, 8:57 PM
#8
Eh, 9 volt line into a 6 volt input? All wires from the power supply are attached to a connector that can only be plugged in one way, so it's physically impossible to destroy your system by hooking up the power supply incorrectly. It was more a concern back in AT form factor days, when the two connectors could be reversed and cause damage to the system, but today, it's not an issue.

For people who are still uneasy about assembling a computer themselves, a local computer store would most likely put it together for a small fee. Most reputable companies offer a warranty on products themselves, in addition to the manufacturer's warranty that comes with retail and some OEM products. Buying brand name usually turns out to be needlessly expensive, and a much more capable system can be built by purchasing seperate components.

Anyway, Athlons are pretty cheap now, so I'd suggest looking into purchasing one with a cheap video card. A new generation of cards is right on the horizon, so I wouldn't suggest spending too much money on anything available today. Additionally, a large hard drive, Soundblaster Live! of some sort with a good audio setup (Klipsch Promedias are recognized as some of the best speakers available), and a large monitor would be recommended. <a href=http://www.pricewatch.com) target=_blank>Pricewatch</a> is an excellent place to compare prices and purchase products.

If you decide to go with Intel over AMD, stay away from PIII systems that use RDRAM. 128 MB of that stuff would eat up a good portion of that $1500 itself.

[This message has been edited by Argath (edited May 01, 2000).]
 theahnfahn
05-01-2000, 9:13 PM
#9
I know it isn't that hard to assemble, Ikhnaton, I've gone in the guts of my computer a few times to replace stuff. I just wouldn't recommend it to anyone who didn't know what they were doing. For someone who has never put one together before I would recommend paying the $50 as opposed to screwing up a major part. Also, you might forget a part and spend hours trying to figure out what went wrong, talking to tech support, etc. And I was only talking about the on-site warranties, which I've never actually used, but it is nice to know you have them.

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 psyduck78
05-01-2000, 11:11 PM
#10
Okay, sorry muchafriad. http://www.jediknight.net/mboard/redface.gif)

Let me reiterate.

CD-ROM: Creative 52X CD IDE- $49
Sound Card: Soundblaster Live! Value- $55
Network Card*: SOHO Ehternet 10/100 PCI- $15
Speakers: Cambridge PCWorks 3-Piece System- $ 49
Video Card: VooDoo 3 3000 AGP- $139
Modem*: USR V.90 56K D/F PCI- $55
Monitor*: ViewSonic 17" 1280 Res.- $219
Back Up Units*: Iomega ZIP 250 MB IDE Int.- $109
Hard Drives: Western Digital 15.3GB ATA/66 IDE 7200rpm- $149
CPU:Intel Penitum III 733mhz- $519
RAM: 128MB PC-133- $119
Motherboard: Dual Boot Intel 133- $160
* indicates that it may not be needed
Price with needed items: approx $1513
Price with Extras: approx $1911

Thats about all I can think of off the top of my head. So let me know if there's anything I missed.

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 84Elan
05-01-2000, 11:24 PM
#11
Gotta go with the Big monitor man I too have a 19 inch and it is awesome. The sound system is phat too my friend got a gateway with a subwoofer and all it is flat out bad a**. As for a CPU anything you get next month will be slow a year from now so just go in the middle I mean please you only need all that horsepower for games anyway.

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 Argath
05-02-2000, 12:07 AM
#12
An Athlon 750 costs around $250, nearly $100 cheaper than a PIII 733 would cost. With a decent motherboard, that figure comes to a bit over $360. It's cheaper and faster than the PIII, so I really see no reason to go with Intel.

I'd also recommend a 19" or larger monitor, as well as a more capable sound setup, but those are recommendations entirely subjective, as I am very concerned with sound and video quality.
 psyduck78
05-02-2000, 12:27 AM
#13
I'd actually have to agree with you Agrath.

But I'm interested in buying a new motherboard, the Intel Dual Boot 133, so I'm just kind of anxious for it.

But I'm not really getting that computer anyway, but right now I'm running off an Athlon.
 Argath
05-02-2000, 12:38 AM
#14
Never heard of it. What chipset does it use?
 muchafraid
05-02-2000, 3:24 PM
#15
Thank you.

muchafraid
 darthjustin69
05-07-2000, 3:19 PM
#16
<font color=red> man my computer is a 166 mhz but ive got a lan cable modem connection and it is so fast on the net i can download a megabyte in about<font size 6> 2-3 secounds.</f> my dad is getting ready to build his computer and were going to upgrade mine so it can handle all of the new game requirement. Itll be sweet after we get done with it.

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 Kurgan
05-07-2000, 3:24 PM
#17
Ah, and speaking of fast download times, that explains all the eye candy you pack into your posts, dude.

Please tone it down for the "rest" who don't have such fast connections. Thanks!

Kurgan
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