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Double Bladed Saber a reality?

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 GonkH8er
03-30-2002, 12:38 AM
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Toshiya from Raven posted this in the Maul Skin Thread

Yes. It would sure be something if there happened to be a double saber easter egg in multiplayer or something!
^_^





and then a few posts later, this was posted...

(Image removed by zX)

Anyone know anything about it? found it? can confirm it?
 UsEr-X-
03-30-2002, 12:49 AM
#2
Some lamer prolly made it in photoshop.

UsEr-X-:atat:
 Woad
03-30-2002, 12:53 AM
#3
Do we know what the source of that pic is?

I mean where the poster came across it?
 Kalishnikov
03-30-2002, 12:55 AM
#4
 Hobo-wan[RXz]
03-30-2002, 12:59 AM
#5
Apparently some guy looked through the resource files in his JK2 directory and said there was no double bladed lightsaber in them.

Thus, no double bladed lightsaber period.

-Hobo
[RXz]
 Slipped
03-30-2002, 1:06 AM
#6
Its a reality guys, but cheats must be enabled. He showed me.
 JEDIcloud
03-30-2002, 1:08 AM
#7
so how does it work? (controls?)
 UsEr-X-
03-30-2002, 1:13 AM
#8
I think its photoshop, if you read some of the posts on that page posted above, you'll see that they are all babbling retards who don't know what they are talking about lol!:p

UsEr-X-:fett:
 Dalmuti
03-30-2002, 1:38 AM
#9
It must be true since I read it first on the Something Awful boards, land of all that is truthful and just.
 pinkpanther718
03-30-2002, 3:06 AM
#10
Why would a Raven person say something like that? They tend to not put ideas in our heads unless there have a good reason.
 TigZy
03-30-2002, 3:13 AM
#11
Originally posted by pinkpanther718
Why would a Raven person say something like that? They tend to not put ideas in our heads unless there have a good reason.

Yes..... all those in favour of kidnapping changkahn and interrogating him say aye.
 Toshiya[RAVEN]
03-30-2002, 3:21 AM
#12
Alright, really, it's nothing to get too excited about. It does exist and it's just a silly cheat (meaning, works only on servers with cheats enabled) I whipped up one afternoon in about 15 minutes. I thought it might be nice to toy around with, and just to look at, because it's pretty.

So there's that. As for actually activating it, if I said then no one would have the fun of trying to track it down. And that's what hidden surprises are all about! ^_^
 GonkH8er
03-30-2002, 3:21 AM
#13
I just forced it out of Toshiya....


It's real :)

here's what he said

Alright, it is indeed a cheat. It of course only works when the server has cheats enabled, and it's just a simple buggy thing I whipped up in like 15 minutes one afternoon after work because I thought it would be nice to play around with.

As to how it's activated.. I leave that to everyone else to figure out. ^_^
 Toshiya[RAVEN]
03-30-2002, 3:23 AM
#14
The timing!
 GonkH8er
03-30-2002, 3:24 AM
#15
FINE THEN! reply at the same time as me! see if i care :)
 Kalishnikov
03-30-2002, 3:33 AM
#16
Never mind, devmap worked. Wish sv_cheats could still be used though.
 Ulic Quel Droma
03-30-2002, 3:35 AM
#17
lol, thats funny :D
 pinkpanther718
03-30-2002, 3:57 AM
#18
So now all we have to do is uncover the command for it? Anyone know if it is fully functional, meanning both blades colide and such?
 Ron1jed
03-30-2002, 4:02 AM
#19
(edit-Gonk- no personal attacks ron. that was uncalled for. it may very well collide and do damage. you dont know that and neither do we, so he has every right to propose the idea. calm down)

the guy JUST said it was something that he whipped up in 15 mintues and not put in the game. I'm sure the other blade wont' do any damage.
 GlobuleSO
03-30-2002, 4:04 AM
#20
I don't know, but I'd bet money that all the double-saber "cheat" is is a different model for the default saber - meaning it looks different, but the other end has no collision code or anything. I'm sure it took the Raven guys long enough just to get the basic saber working OK...
 Havikar
03-30-2002, 4:11 AM
#21
:D if you bothered to look at the raven faq thing they put out they say how to active cheats. here is what it said.

2. How do I enable the cheats in Jedi Outcast?

Bring down the console and type "HelpUsObi 1" (minus the quotes/it is case sensitive) and press ENTER. This is the Quake III
equivalent of sv_cheats 1, which doesn't work in Jedi Outcast. You can also type devmap <mapname> to load a specific map
and have the cheats enabled once the map loads.
 Ron1jed
03-30-2002, 4:13 AM
#22
the guy spent 15 minutes. he didnt' care. he did it just to see if it would work.


I really don't see any hopes of it working.
 GB_StormTrooper
03-30-2002, 4:16 AM
#23
I hope lucasarts makes a patch for a double bladed lightsaber for mulitplayer, that would be so awesome :D
 TigZy
03-30-2002, 4:17 AM
#24
Could we perhaps reserve naysaying for WHEN the code is found and WHEN people have used it? It makes no sense being negative about the whole thing when we really don't know what it's like.
 JaNg0
03-30-2002, 4:22 AM
#25
I'm no genius in the codes or anything.. But if you think there is no collision code or whatever would the modding community beable to tweak it so it would work?

I have no idea but it's just a question...




:jango:
 Maven
03-30-2002, 4:25 AM
#26
damnit ive been sitting in devmap mode throwing all sorts of commands at the game to get duel sabers and no luck


****

Maven
 Saient
03-30-2002, 4:30 AM
#27
me too.. all the commands I can think of and ones that I make up Im throwing into the console... keep trying someones bound to find out soon
 Maven
03-30-2002, 4:34 AM
#28
im thinking its a model command

ie

model luke..... switches to lukes model

model reborn switches to reborn model

this to me seems most logical


Maven
 Valdarious
03-30-2002, 4:34 AM
#29
Been trying the same thing, give all gives you all weapons and like 999 ammo for everything but no dual saber. I have extracted the pk3's and routed through them to no avail either. He stumped me on this one. "cmdlist" doesnt show anything unusual.
 Darksider
03-30-2002, 4:36 AM
#30
how do you enable cheats on a server? id like to try and crack this code
 Darksider
03-30-2002, 4:39 AM
#31
im thinking its going to be some obscure episode 1 reference (i mean the enable cheats is HelpUsObi 1 so it fits)

wipethemoutallofthem
atlastwewillhaverevenge
isenseadisturbanceintheforce
atlastwewillrevealourselvetothejedi

OOOOOH has anyone tried the original fake codes from dark forces?? cant remember them all now (like falalalalalalalala) but they would also seem likely candidates
 Valdarious
03-30-2002, 4:39 AM
#32
start a server the way you want ie:level... ffa, whatever, then bring down console and type "devmap ffa_bespin(or whatever map) and it will load. Or just from the start do the devmap thing
 Valdarious
03-30-2002, 4:41 AM
#33
Not sure how you are getting this HelpUsObi thing to work, I type it and it says unknown command, devmap works though.
 Ron1jed
03-30-2002, 4:45 AM
#34
haha

I remeber the biggest easter egg of all time was the cloud city and fighitng darth vader. VERY L33t!
 Kalishnikov
03-30-2002, 4:47 AM
#35
I managed to find HelpUsObi in the jk2gamex86.dll as a string using a hex editor. There were also plenty of console commands in jk2mp.exe, but since I'm not familiar with the Episode 1 quotes, I don't know what to search for.
 Saient
03-30-2002, 4:49 AM
#36
Maybe its got something to do with the saber attack cycle command


saberattackcycle or something like that.

i dunno Im stumped too
 Valdarious
03-30-2002, 4:59 AM
#37
I got the command "testmodel" to work with different saber handles but it doesnt let me pick them up, just makes them float above me with no blade. I also cant find an md3 file that looks anything like a dual saber handle.
 Darksider
03-30-2002, 5:02 AM
#38
havent figured it out yet =(
 jedialphaknight
03-30-2002, 5:15 AM
#39
well if you guys think about it he said he only spent 15 minutes on it just fooling aroudn so it can't really be that good it prolly just looks cool to hold but he probably if he says 15 minutes, didn't make all the character animations or anything I mean there would have to be a second set completely and how WOULD that work in combat...............would be a hell of a surprise if it was a full blown double saber tho with animations and all but I doubt it :(
 Valdarious
03-30-2002, 5:18 AM
#40
I know but its just the fact of actualy finding it that intrigues me, heh, dont know why.
 XSnowfireX
03-30-2002, 5:24 AM
#41
I grow tired of this suspense. I dont feel like hearing theories, I wanna just know how to do it
 Luebbi
03-30-2002, 6:21 AM
#42
That pic is from me, and it's NOT a photoshop. That is quite easy to spot; for one, look at Luke`s pose, it's not the default idle position. Now look at the thrown saber; if this was a photoshop, the blade would simply have been mirrored. Instead, one of the blades has a bigger motion blur than the other blade. If this was a photoshop, it would have took a professional at least 6 hours, and I certainly don't have that skill.
 Ulic Quel Droma
03-30-2002, 6:34 AM
#43
well tell us how to get it!!! :p
 Patrickj64_ak
03-30-2002, 6:52 AM
#44
ya....come on...let the cat outa the bag...how do we get it?
 Luebbi
03-30-2002, 6:56 AM
#45
Look at the pics, it's not ME using the doublebladed saber, it's some other guy. He wouldn`t tell me how to get it.

Also, stop leeching my bandwith, if you want to show the pic, upload it somewhere yourself.
 Ulic Quel Droma
03-30-2002, 7:56 AM
#46
damn it!!! :(
 [sico]
03-30-2002, 8:07 AM
#47
Just tell us raven. :mad:
 Morkath
03-30-2002, 9:13 AM
#48
gohnker you might wanna check your original post, someone caught on to you leeching the pic from someone elses sight you evil evil man :tsk:

And how about a hint Toshiya? =)
I have a feeling it has something to do with WP_NONE, but im having problems using the give command.
 Krak3n
03-30-2002, 9:16 AM
#49
I had a look through the cvarlist and the only command i could find relating to the saber was :

ui_freeSaber "0"

0 meaning somethings off, so maybe we should turn it on? see what happens :D
 Owen
03-30-2002, 9:24 AM
#50
I think they will tease this for a while longer.
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