I am sick to my stomach as I read some of peoples complaints about their competitions tactics. It started wth whining about tower rushing, which maybe I can see some of your points regarding that (I think it is perfectly fine because its easy to stop if you scout well). However, now people say you shouldnt kill workers??? Whats next?? Placing limits on who i can build and cant build?? i used to respect this forum as a fun place to chat about what the upcoming game is gonna be like, or what civs look cool. Ever since the demo came out all most of you do is whine. There are a couple of you who I really expect and look forward to hearing from (Fergie, Maul, Rhett, etc). But most of you have done nothing but complain about the stupidist stuff. I'm just being honest, but c'mon, complaining that people kill your workers?? Complaining about rushing?? i am sooooo sick of it!! Here is an idea guys. Play against people better than you, instead of complaining EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU LOSE, watch the film afterwards and see what the guy did to beat you, and learn from it. I know, that's gonna hurt some of your hugely enflated ego's, but thats what it takes to get better.
Honestly, what's next from you guys?? A thread telling us which units are "honrable" to build and which ones aren't?? I can see it now "I built all Jedi the other day and some guy countered it with Bounty Hunters, HOW CHEAP!!!!" Or "I had 200 X-wings and this guy build Anti Air units all around his base!!!" As ridiculous as that sounds, I could honestly see most of you guys saying that in the next thread!
PS. If you dont think rushing is FUN, thats your opinion which you're entitled to. But just cuz you dont think its fun doesnt mean we dont, and just cuz you dont think its fun definitely doesnt mean its CHEAP or CHEATING
I suggest you take a long vaccation... and don't come back for at least a week to this forum.
Originally posted by WC_heavyarms
I suggest you take a long vaccation... and don't come back for at least a week to this forum.
Why??
listen to you, complaining over stupid things...
Originally posted by WC_heavyarms
listen to you, complaining over stupid things...
Dont try to turn words around on me bro, I am not the one trying to place my values on others. I think tower rushing is ok, killing villagers is ok, but I dont call people "cheaters" if they dont play by my rules.
Instead of just trying to play devils advocate and give one liners, why dont you try to explain why you think I am complaining, or where you disagree
Porkins, you have a good point, but so does the other side. I have been reading these threads, and I too dont see why people just dont try to learn how to be better. Although i wouldn't call it complaining, or whining.
And as for this:
Honestly, what's next from you guys?? A thread telling us which units are "honrable" to build and which ones aren't?? I can see it now "I built all Jedi the other day and some guy countered it with Bounty Hunters, HOW CHEAP!!!!" Or "I had 200 X-wings and this guy build Anti Air units all around his base!!!" As ridiculous as that sounds, I could honestly see most of you guys saying that in the next thread!
Im not so sure it will become that bad, but I wont be suprised.
I guess the main thing needed to be learned here, is to shut up and play, if someone rushes you, play the strategy game and counter it. The only way to cheat, is to use actual cheating codes.
You were complaining in a thread I just made that I was being too critical. People can express there opinions, including me, and if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen!
Originally posted by Jimi-Wan
I guess the main thing needed to be learned here, is to shut up and play,
I LOVE IT
Originally posted by WC_heavyarms
You were complaining in a thread I just made that I was being too critical. People can express there opinions, including me, and if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen!
Oh OK. So you are mad about another thread. Be mature enough not to hold a grudge the rest of your life man, maybe its you who needs the vacation
Im not so sure it will become that bad, but I wont be suprised.
You'd be surprised. Someone on another forum complained that his jedi's were slaughtered by a group of bounty hunters. He said this so cheap. He he I guess there are alot of people that jsut want to use 1 man armies such as jedi to win wars. won't happen here. Honestly it's a strategy game. somone attacks you early defend them. I always expect a rush. Even if I can't implement a good rush i can still try to advance as fast as I can to counter it.
not gonna see what this said...
I won't fight with you. Just leave me alone, and quit flaming people.
Originally posted by WC_heavyarms
I won't fight with you. Just leave me alone, and quit flaming people.
Leave you alone?? You came in to this thread and started it man!!! You shoulda stayed out. In your own words "if you cant stand the heat, get out of the kitchen"
And I dont flame people. I give detailed analysis of why I might post a negative comment to someone. Just because I disagreed with your post doesnt mean I "flame" people. Who made you the lord almighty.
OMG!!!! Heavyarms I just read the other post which you said I "flamed" you. You call that flaming?? That is ridiculous. You actually responded to me and agreed with me!!! You need to get your story straight
*sings*
Oh WHERE oh WHERE could the moderators beeeeeee? or wheeeeeeeeeeere oh where could they beeeeeeeeeeeeeee?
This calls for the spam turkey, Rommel.
And porkins, There is a question mark by the "Honor Code" thread. This was just an idea that might not even come to place...
That should sort it out.
got me wondering where da mods are too.
Porky, I swear even when I agree and what your saying I feel like arguing with you. It probably has something to do with that fact that to counter- the overly exaggerated "dont shoot my droids" whiners you are the-OMG SPASTIC CLOWN OF KNEE JERK POSTING.
You miss the point constantly. Your still harping on this point, and now we are on thread #3 in this forum about the same damn subject. Kindly remove your Lego Xwing out your ears before posting and learn some manners or something.
I actually want to play you in some GB action, be on the zone today my zone name is PCXL_Dvlos. Just don't talk and play, if that's friggin possible for YOU. Your flamey.. yes you are.. its more than one person telling you this, your spastic, and you have a tendency to insult people who don't agree wholeheartedly with your opinions.
Heres an Idea!
Can we all just SHUT UP!?
Originally posted by Dvlos
I actually want to play you in some GB action, be on the zone today my zone name is PCXL_Dvlos. Just don't talk and play, if that's friggin possible for YOU. Your flamey.. yes you are.. its more than one person telling you this, your spastic, and you have a tendency to insult people who don't agree wholeheartedly with your opinions.
7:00 std time i will be on, same zone name. Quit crying everyone
I dont care if you guys agree with me. It depends what your definition of flaming is. Everytime I disagree with any of you I make sure I give a detailed explanation as to why I don't agree. All you guys do is cry "flaming!!!!" and don't even say why. I always make sure to make it clear why I disagree with you guys when I do, however, you peopole just come back with one sentence answers saying that I am flaming. That ***
oh ya, one little tidbit: I am an unofficially announced employee for this website, so watch what you say.
I say...
FLAME WAR!!!
FLAME WAR!!!
Quit flaming each other.
Originally posted by WC_heavyarms
oh ya, one little tidbit: I am an unofficially announced employee for this website, so watch what you say.
What is that supposd to mean?? You gonna kick me out for a difference in opinion?? You are sounding more like Hitler, and this place sounds more like Old school Germany than I could imagine. Seriously, why are you acting like this?? You are the one with contradicting stories. you said I flamed you in the Developer's Forum, I went and checked, and in that thread you actually AGREED WITH ME!! That doesnt make sense. So you gonna kick me out because you made a mistake and I stood up for myself?? Fine, go ahead, if thats how it works here than I dont need to be involved.
A quote from Yuri's Revenge, slightly edited :D :
Porkins, porkins, the war's over. Can't we all just ... get along?
I agree, yes I would love to get along. Remember, I didnt start all of this, I just disagreed with people who tried to push their beliefs on others. Calling different strategies "cheating" just cuz you either cant do it, or cant beat it, isnt fair. Then I turned into the bad gay. I dont want arguing, but I wont stand for certain stuff, so I talk about it. If thats flaming, then I'm sorry
I'm on both sides of the issue. Basically, as long as you don't become a llama, the strats you use are fine. People who whine because they thought there one-unit-type armies would win(aka players who have played too much starcraft, ETC) should just shut up and learn.
PS: definition of a llama: llama is a word more often associated with FPSs, but it can apply here. A llama is a person who DELIBERATELY breaks the pre-set rules of the game, or does whatever, JUST TO ANNOY THE OTHER PLAYERS. In other words, they screw the fun of the game for their own personal enjoyment of seeing others suffer. What I mean by pre-set rules is this: example: MSZ zone game rooms have that little banner on top, and sometimes it says 'dont capture monument' or 'no tower rushing'. Either respect these rules, or don't play. If you play, but break these, you're an official llama, and will be disgraced for life. At least, by me.
Originally posted by Darth_Venage
PS: definition of a llama: llama is a word more often associated with FPSs, but it can apply here. A llama is a person who DELIBERATELY breaks the pre-set rules of the game, or does whatever, JUST TO ANNOY THE OTHER PLAYERS.
I like that!! I will use it in the future if you don't mind lol.
don't mind. Just make sure you give proper credit when you use it:D;)
Why is everybody stepping all over Porkins?? He states good opinions and ideals and people just pummel him for it... Is this the community we want, one which somebody posts a well thought out post only for people to come in and twist words around and call him a whiner? Come on people, lets mature up a little. I happen to agree with Porkins completely. How many times have I been on the zone since the dawning of Age of Empires to have sore loser.. yes, thats right.. sore losers tell me my tactic was not "honorable". Translation of that: I got beat and I cant admit it so I have to use every excuse possible to redeem my ego.
If I do make it on the Senate, I plan to hear everybody's complaints. But lets be reasonable. But if the devs let you do it in the game, then obviously they see nothing wrong with it. If they did not want you towering somebody's town, they would have put a limit on how far you can build towers from your town. As for shooting workers... thats a great strat! What do you think goes on in the real world during a war? Didn't the U.S put embargos on Iraq and the Terrorist Organizations? Thats the same thing and fundamental principle of thinking. Does that mean we are not "honorable"? If you want to defeat an enemy, you cut off their resources.
Originally posted by Dvlos
Porky, I swear even when I agree and what your saying I feel like arguing with you. It probably has something to do with that fact that to counter- the overly exaggerated "dont shoot my droids" whiners you are the-OMG SPASTIC CLOWN OF KNEE JERK POSTING.
...you have a tendency to insult people who don't agree wholeheartedly with your opinions.
Amen :) Sorry porkins but he's right. You complain about our complaining. While I agree with you that some of the complaints on this forum are over the top, you use them as the rule rather than the exception. You started out by saying that everyone is entitled to his or her own oppinion, but in that same post compaired anti-rushers to whiners.
The rush question is one that will never be resolved for EVERYONE at the same time so stop harping on it. Some people love rush, some people hate it, and some don't really care. All of them are "right" really.
Once again, like Lord Tirion said, whether you agree with me or not, I am just trying to develop my side in a well thought out way. Unfortunately most of my opposition just gives one line emotional posts with no back up of any sort. If you dont like it I'm sorry, but at least I am taking the time to back up my arguments instead of wasting all of your time
actually, complaining has been the rule, at leats it was for a long while. I have a friend who used to come to these forums, but he doesn't anymore because he got sick of everybody whining. Lord Tirion, I agree with you and prokins completely, as long as you don't become a llama, I don't mind WHAT strats you use.(read my earlier post)
Originally posted by porkins14
7:00 std time i will be on, same zone name. Quit crying everyone
Std time? Is that EST? Well its 8pm EST and I am on the Zone now... hook up with me (or anyone else that wants to play in room 44 Password is 'pcxl' all lowercase no '
Originally posted by Dvlos
Std time? Is that EST? Well its 8pm EST and I am on the Zone now... hook up with me (or anyone else that wants to play in room 44 Password is 'pcxl' all lowercase no '
I play games for fun, not to solve conflicts, we'll see
I'm staying nuetrial in this arguement.
**mod enters with dramatic music**
Hi folks, how's the party going ? :D
Ok, let's take this from the very start. I started the other thread: An Honor Code ?, not the (continued) thread. The reason i started that was stated in the first post: I want IDEAS on an honor code, if it should be implemented AT ALL at CERTAIN tournaments.
That should be enough to avoid the whole flaming war altogether if people actually read it carefully, but since i have a different experience with that, let me elaborate:
- The Senate will host tournaments
- These tourneys will have rules
- Some tactics sometimes surface that guarantee victory against mediocre players
- Senate tourneys will be open to anyone on the forum, including the mediocre players
- We'll be looking at ways to make them fun for ALL
Now i never mentioned that killing villagers is an illegal tactic or whatever... Those were all OPINIONS i asked for, but apparently some people believed them to be solid rules taken into consideration. They're not. They are opinions of forummers.
And now for the important part: like ANY opinion on this board (in alignment with your respective constitutions, that is :D ), these opinions should be respected for what they are; opinions. There will be NO (read that again: N.O.) flaming whatsover over that. Those who did it on this thread, you know who you are. Consider this a public warning.
Now please feel free to post your opinion on the subject, but if you disagree with something, simply say so in a polite manner. Or do you also start fights in a restaurant when a waitress tells you that today's special is actually great while you ordered something else ?
Thank you
Sounds like a good senate to me... although thats what I was expecting this entire time