Movie looks neat.
But they're not called the Watchmen.
Still looks good though.
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Yes. Can't wait.
Watchmen is the best piece of literature I've ever read, graphic novel or not.
Also, everyone's pissing about Manhattan's voice. You think he'd try to isolate himself from the people he loves more by talking like a robot.
Smon, get on so we can talk about Watchmen...
I refuse to let this thread get derailed.
WE TALK ABOUT WATCHMEN.
Hrmph.
I allow this. =D
Though Rorschach is overrated in my opinions of the book's characters.
I believe Manhattan should have a slightly altered voice.
Their reasoning for giving him a normal voice was that he would try to put people at ease.
If he was trying to do that he wouldn't be naked and blue all the time.
Though Rorschach is overrated in my opinions of the book's characters.
No.
No.
I'm not condemning him. Hell, he's my desktop. I'm just saying that I prefer some characters to him because he's the obvious choice as a badass.
&Smon, I actually have a friend who refuses to read it because "There's a naked blue guy in it." & When he goes out with the majority of people, he puts undies on...
Ave! I want a plush Bubastis sooo bad. Kitty! :)
Ave! I want a plush Bubastis sooo bad. Kitty! :)
ITCHY
=D That's the cutest idea ever.
Wrong Kennedy, bro...
Anyways, who's everyone's favorite?
Rorshach is my favourite, followed by The Comedian.
/cigar
Rorshach is my favourite, followed by The Comedian.
/cigar
Second.
I hate to say this and be a failure, but as much of a fruit as he is, I'm partial to Ozymandias. Because I sort of like the idea of...
the villian who thinks they're doing good & being a hero but are really f*cking everything up majorly.
PLUS BUBASTIS.
The best villain is naturally the one who thinks he is doing the right thing and believes in himself.
I really like the Comedian, because he does all these horrible things, but by the end you really don't hate as much as you feel you should.
I hate to say this and be a failure, but as much of a fruit as he is, I'm partial to Ozymandias. Because I sort of like the idea of...
the villian who thinks they're doing good & being a hero but are really f*cking everything up majorly.
PLUS BUBASTIS.
I thought he was okay, almost romantic in the novel. He looks gay in the movie.
On the subject of Ozymandias:
He didn't **** anything up, he saved the world.
He didn't **** anything up, he saved the world.
Was a giant cЬnt in doing so.
I thought he was okay, almost romantic in the novel. He looks gay in the movie.
I guess I understand the costume change. Compared to other costumes, his seems almost silly in the comic. But nipples were unnecessary. It also blows because as a brunette. Matthew Goode (the guy who plays him) is very attractive.
&Smon, you do have a point. He did end up saving the world... But even in the end, he questions the morality of what he did. I know morality isn't really an issue, but that unity can only last so long if you think about it from a perspective.
The nipples on the suit are a joke.
A publicity decision only for Veidt, like the nipples on Batman's costume.
The nipples on the suit are a joke.
A publicity decision only for Veidt, like the nipples on Batman's costume.
I know they're only on his suit. Also, did you hear about the accent thing? Goode decided that Veidt was born in Germany and immigrated at a young age, then gave his money away because his parents were Nazis and Adrian felt ashamed of that fortune. When he's in private situations, Veidt speaks with a slight German accent.
I don't know, do you think that's what Moore intended, cause from what I though, Adrian was born in America to immigrant parents. Your thoughts?
The whole accent thing is to add character, I don't mind it. I don't like the look of Veidt: he had these Aryan looks in the novel, the ultimate Superman-ish guy. In the movie he looks like supervillain sidekick, which sucks because you're not supposed to think he's a supervillain. :/
The whole accent thing is to add character, I don't mind it. I don't like the look of Veidt: he had these Aryan looks in the novel, the ultimate Superman-ish guy. In the movie he looks like supervillain sidekick, which sucks because you're not supposed to think he's a supervillain. :/
Well, no offense but I do understand the change. If I hadn't known a thing about Watchmen and went to see it, and his costume from the book were used, it's probably take away from the serious nature of the film. Even though I think a middle ground could have been found between gold leggings and supervillian.
I know they're only on his suit. Also, did you hear about the accent thing? Goode decided that Veidt was born in Germany and immigrated at a young age, then gave his money away because his parents were Nazis and Adrian felt ashamed of that fortune. When he's in private situations, Veidt speaks with a slight German accent.
I don't know, do you think that's what Moore intended, cause from what I though, Adrian was born in America to immigrant parents. Your thoughts?
I don't particularly care if that's what Moore intended.
It's important to have some differences between medias, because if I wanted to read Watchmen in a theater, I'd read Watchmen in a theater.
Well, no offense but I do understand the change. If I hadn't known a thing about Watchmen and went to see it, and his costume from the book were used, it's probably take away from the serious nature of the film. Even though I think a middle ground could have been found between gold leggings and supervillian.
Naw, I don't mind the costume, it's okay, it's the guy they got to play Veidt, he looks too much of a pussy.
Yeah, Veidt is definitely the character I'm feeling the iffiest about. Everyone else I'm more or less fine with though.
Oh, I bought that Watchmen shirt they only sold at Comic Con on eBay! It's way subtle, it says "Mason Auto Repair" on it. Also, I ordered me a bloody smiley face button. Yay!
Naw, I don't mind the costume, it's okay, it's the guy they got to play Veidt, he looks too much of a pussy.
Honestly, Veidt is half pussy in the book anyways. Hell he did a high bar performance on television (Which I thought male gymnast were automatic gay in everyone's book...) and he wears tight gold leggings.
Pfft, if you catch a bullet with your hands, you're so not a pussy.
Possibly homosexual. Must investigate.
no i don't remember the exact lines, sue me
That reminds me, do you guys think Rorschach was gay for Nite Owl? I kind of got that feeling.
Saw it. Loved it. Only a couple of complaints.
1) NOT. ENOUGH. BUBASTIS.
2) Did a lot of odd stuff to condense. The thing I'm least satisfyed about condensing was that they cut out how Kovacs became Rorschach, got the mask, ect.
3) New ending is fine. I think they could have delengthened the useless prison scene, and something you'll see below.
4) The rape scene was way overhyped. Especially compared to when Nite Owl and Silk Spectre did it in Archie. God, talk about awkward, the only female in the group, with an introverted 18 year old with a moustache, a bisexual teen whom I'd just talked to in person that day, and my boyfriend (who made it a point to tell me how fine Malin Akerman's ass was. Cause you see a LOT of her body. >.>)
My only real gripes. I got pissed at some of the changes, but then I was like "Oh wait, they only have 3 hours for this. They had to cut some stuff..."
I thought the movie was okay. I probably enjoyed it the most for the little easter eggs and all of the nerdy details scattered everywhere.
I didn't like how they cut out the exchange between Veidt and Dr. Manhattan at the end where Veidt asks if he did the right thing in the end and Manhattan is all like "nothing ever ends" and Veidt is all crushed and defeated looking.
Also, they severely downplayed the gore and carnage of the destruction of New York City, which I think helped put more gravity to Veidt's actions. Interesting article:
http://io9.com/5160960/how-911-changed-watchmen)
I'm kind of taking the elitist view of this whole movie...no one who's going to see it with me had no idea about what it was until they saw the trailer, so they're not good enough to see it with. I'll wait 'til rental.
I feel evil.
Hah, it's alright. The movie is a completely different experience depending on whether or not you've read the comic before.
I loved watching the scenes in movie form, and I especially loved the montage they had the beginning, there couldn't be a better opener to the movie than that. Also loved Simon & Garfunkel at the Comedian's funeral, that brought a tear to me eye.
Otherwise though, I think the movie drops pace at around the start of the second half. It gets so entangled in the backstories and histories that it becomes a jumbled mess of strong characters with nothing to do. The story itself picks up in the first third of the movie, then goes off on a hiatus in the middle and returns somewhat in the final third.
Loved every scene with Rorschach and the Comedian, those were wonderful. Manhattan was interesting at the start, but got weary to watch later, and not because of the dong. I was disappointed with Ozymandias, but Silk Spectre and Nite Owl were good. Overall, nothing particularly ground-breaking or Oscar-winning in the movie, but it was kinda fun.
Also liked the ending, it's kinda odd and throws up some more questions but it's okay. The comic ending would have been too unrealistic on screen. Overall, it was a good movie, but it ends up with a V for Vendetta dilemma: good movie in its own kinda way, but nowhere near the comic. I guess I understand why Alan Moore hates it. Also lol'd when his name didn't figure in the credits.
@itchy: Yeah, I can imagine that. I'd probably have disliked the movie more had I not read the comic, come to think of it. The comic adds to character in a way the movie can't.