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Battle 6, Mission 5.....IMPOSSIBLE

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 Pystdoff
05-11-2000, 5:37 AM
#1
I made it this far without cheating (easy mode) and this is the toughest mission yet. I get clear to the part where I dock with the station and the stolen shuttle takes off, but as soon as I call for re-enforcements and exit the hanger to protect the shuttle from the TIE Bombers I get my ass kicked. It`s almost like the game is cheating...the TIE fighters fire like 3 times faster than normal and almost NEVER miss you, no matter how much you try to dodge `em....I`m usually dead after about 5 seconds after leaving the station. I`ve tried almost everything...deverting all power to engines and running like hell (usually gives you an extra 2 seconds of mission time) or dogfighting (instant death). I never had this problem on any other mission even in the YT1300, I usually only lose because a critical craft gets smoked. I actually thought I was damn good at this game untill this mission. If anyone else has had this much problems with this mission and somehow managed to beat it without cheating let me know...thanks for the time it took to read this.
 RDean
05-11-2000, 7:31 AM
#2
I don't know if it will work for you or not, but my strategy was to divert all power to engines and use autofire to take out the ties. That way you can fly all over the place evading and try to get the crap out of there and also get some ties off your butt with the autofire. Good Luck. http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/smile.gif)
 K_Kinnison
05-11-2000, 1:10 PM
#3
Remeber 2 things about the AI, they are predictable in thier movment, and they cannot do high deflection shooting. That means, have them at you 3 or 9 o'clock. Also i allways have lasers at -2 (all to engines) and shilds to even or higher. Keep your speed above 100 MGLTs and you should be able to live long enuf.

Anotehr trick in that mission:

The Gig is up when you dock with the station, one thing you can do is Pick-up the tyderium, and move it to the Hyper Bouy, then go back and dock, the commandos will Be teleported to the Shuttle, and all you have to worry about is not getting killed to fast
 ME_Jeldren
05-11-2000, 1:14 PM
#4
Simply don't call Rogue after you have finished docking.
Leave the station and get some distance between you and
the ties. Then just hop into the turret and kill them. I
completed the mission without getting hit.
 Vark111
05-11-2000, 2:58 PM
#5
I finished this mission by staying inside the station. Just figured out which "tube" the T/B's were launching from, placed myself in that tube, and fragged them as they appeared in front of me. Never left the station until the shuttle was long gone, and then just redirected power and got the hell out of Dodge.

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 RDean
05-11-2000, 10:12 PM
#6
Wow, I like that strategy Vark111 Kill them while they are launching. I'll have to try that myself next time. Even though my method worked that would be cool to try.
 Thrawn
05-13-2000, 2:10 AM
#7
I did everything above http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/smile.gif)

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 garyah99
05-13-2000, 3:41 PM
#8
Another thing to remember is that if you don't have the 2.02 patch, the difficulty levels are reversed. Get the patch first ( and install it http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/wink.gif), the you can either dock with te platform and let the commandos out, then take off and blast the TIEs before calling rogue, or you can wait and play it by the numbers, ie; wait till the commandoes are ready, exit, call rogue, etc. The main thing to remember, is that the shuttle MUST make it to thew jump point. Beware the bombers!!

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 Kokeeno IOS
05-18-2000, 7:51 PM
#9
HARD Level with Patch 2.02: (don't play this mission without patch). Just wait until Sabra finish docking and call RS, leave the station after Tyderium but stay near the station. When bombers are launched switch turret to forward and kill all of them (two or three waves shoul be enaugh).
on EASY (or even MEDIUM) you can destroy every ENEMY crafts for bonus points (after that go to Zhar system and reapeat operation.
 garyah99
05-19-2000, 2:16 PM
#10
You mean go back to the custome platform?? Didn't know you could do that!

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 Kokeeno IOS
05-19-2000, 7:17 PM
#11
Yes, you can visit custom station again, but it's hard to get points for station, because Star Destroyer fires at staion. But you can collect points for other crafts (even for SD).
 garyah99
05-20-2000, 12:20 PM
#12
Does it matter if you get ID'd?? 'Cause I know that's one of the mission goals, is to avoid being ID'd by the Imps.

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 Kokeeno IOS
05-21-2000, 8:19 PM
#13
You cannot be IDed before docking the station. After docking ID objective is no longer valid.
 garyah99
05-21-2000, 9:22 PM
#14
Thanks a bunch! I'll try it next time through. http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/biggrin.gif)

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 LIZZO
05-26-2000, 4:07 AM
#15
You can sort of avoid fighting if you do this:
- Instead of boarding the station fly inside it and pick up the shuttle (shift-P). Once you've done that fly as quickly to the nav-buoy and release the shuttle and it hyperspaces away. Then dump all power to engines and get far way from the TIE-Bombers (about 25km/clikcs from station) then you have to turn around the bombers and fly back to the station and dock. When you have docked dump all power to engines and fly away free!!
 Dark Dude
05-29-2000, 8:06 PM
#16
I'm also having trouble with this level, its Imposible! I've tried to pick it up but i end up getting ID'ed before i get to the hyperbouy. I haven't got the patch, do you know where to get it?
 Abolisher
06-01-2000, 4:46 AM
#17
You guys are real tricksters! It took me awhile but I finally completed the mission the hard (realistic) way, and its still a tough mission. Never thought of the "cheats u guys use http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/wink.gif).

Anyway, when you complete the mission, it is easy to kill all of the remaining TIEs and then the ISD. All you have to do is get the ties on your tail, match speed with them when they are 0.8 to 1.4 clicks away. At that distance, they won't shoot, but you can really waste 'em by jumping to the gunners turret. In the YT 1300, you will probably have to redirect lasers and some shields to engines to match speed with the T/Is. Once the TIEs are gone, you can destroy the ISD at your liesure. In fact, you can use this approach in any mission http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/smile.gif)

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 garyah99
06-02-2000, 1:08 PM
#18
Actually, I've always found the ISD to be invulnerable. I've always been able to get down to 1% hull but that's as far as it will go. The same with the station. You Can't destroy it.

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 Thrawn
06-05-2000, 12:49 AM
#19
Most people hink that XWA is just shoot em up, but it's also planning and strategy.

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 DailyRich
06-24-2000, 12:35 AM
#20
Here's my beef -- I got past the checkpoint without being ID'd. Got to the outpost, still not ID'd. Got inside, docked, dropped off the commandos, left when they told me to. Called for reinforcements -- which NEVER showed up. I took out all the TIEs myself, and waited for the shuttle to come out. Nothing. So I took out the ISD. Still no shuttle or Rogue squadron. After the ISD blows, the shuttle finally comes out, and hypers away. I follow it, and dock -- and look and see that, apparently, according to the objectives, I NEVER boarded the outpost. Even though the shuttle objectives were met, which would be impossible if I never docked to unload the commandos. I have the 2.02 patch, and I'm probably just going to skip the mission -- I'm not going through all that again just over a glitch. I lost a damn lot of points though. Anybody have any idea what happened?
 DailyRich
06-24-2000, 2:28 AM
#21
Nevermind, figured it out. When the commandos gave me the signal to launch, I hit shift+D again to disengage, instead of throttling up. Somehow, even though I'd successfully docked and dropped everyone off, technically this aborted the docking, so it never took place. So I went back and did it, and Rogue squadron showed up and the whole thing took a LOT less time than the first. Was still cool to see that ISD cook up though.
 Thrawn
06-24-2000, 2:34 AM
#22
It's still cool to see Rogue Squadron come in and blow away some eyeballs http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/smile.gif)

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 Taarkin
06-24-2000, 6:17 AM
#23
It's also cool to listen to Emkay try to con the Imp dude http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/cool.gif)

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 Marril
06-24-2000, 6:26 AM
#24
I think "Ace" should have tried his hand at being the con man. Though it'd wreck the character something fierce, it'd be a bit more realistic (the Imps don't like droids, if you'll remember).
 jmillheiser
06-26-2000, 12:00 AM
#25
Thats weird i had no problem with this mission and i completed it before i got the patch. i docked left when i was told to called RS kicked the TIEs butts and as soon as the shuttle left i left. one thing i did was to stick around and play with the T/Bs to keep them from IDing the shuttle. I kept shields on max and lasers off and used autofire. My only problem was getting IDed before i got to the station. I got IDed my first 2 times i finished the 3rd time
 I am Tycho Celchu
07-06-2000, 1:33 AM
#26
Originally posted by garyah99:
Another thing to remember is that if you don't have the 2.02 patch, the difficulty levels are reversed. Get the patch first ( and install it http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/wink.gif), the you can either dock with te platform and let the commandos out, then take off and blast the TIEs before calling rogue, or you can wait and play it by the numbers, ie; wait till the commandoes are ready, exit, call rogue, etc. The main thing to remember, is that the shuttle MUST make it to thew jump point. Beware the bombers!!



YOUR AN IDIOT!!!! THE bomber are the easiest to shoot down easy.CAUSE YOUR STUPID PERSON!
 Fondas
07-06-2000, 5:21 AM
#27
"You're an idiot" ? "cause you're stupid person" ?

Explain yourself, FAST !
 JC_DeadEye
07-06-2000, 5:32 PM
#28
What an intelligent remark. He must have the IQ of a monkey.

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 Primarch
07-09-2000, 9:49 AM
#29
That is being very mean to monkey's...I'd say he had the IQ of a slug.

Anyway...this has always bugged me but how come I can never pick up the blasted shuttle? I seem to spend every attempt slamming into the docking bay wall.

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 garyah99
07-09-2000, 11:53 PM
#30
Originally posted by I am Tycho Celchu:
YOUR AN IDIOT!!!! THE bomber are the easiest to shoot down easy.CAUSE YOUR STUPID PERSON! I guess his vocabulary is too limited to vocalize an explanation as to why he is so angry. Anyway, the point is, (for those that are interested), the bombers are the only real threat to the shuttle, so you should concentrate your fire on them, not that they are a particularly difficult target.



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 paulbarnard
07-10-2000, 2:01 AM
#31
2 things, i am a monkey, a very very very bad monkey who deserves to be...

can't believed no one mentions this, but all the patrol Ties move in the same plane. Saying thay move in the x-y plane, all you have to do is increase or decrease your z height by 5 kliks or more, then fly straight, unmolested, and undetected to the station.

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