Originally posted by Sivy
i read vector prime and i didn't like it one bit. now people tell me that the NJO gets better after that, which is probably true.
unfortunately I can’t get over how much I didn’t like VP... I just can’t read anymore books in the NJO series.
i've never been a fan of star trek and from what i read from VP, and from what people tell me, that's what the NJO has become.
which is fine if you like that sort of thing. i respect other people’s opinions. just because i think it crap doesn't mean it is crap, it just means I think its crap. tastes differ, it would be boring otherwise.
thats just crazy and lazy :p VP is all about introducing the characters, places and objects of the NJO. To judge the NJO based on VP is just damn silly ! Thats liek someone saying, "yeah I saw ANH, and I hated it, I never will watch the other movies just because ANH was crap" and we all know they'll be missing out on ESB(which we all love), ROTJ and AOTC.... There are some excellent books in the series. Evem ones that focus on single characters, liek Corran Horn, or the Solo twins. The NJO has a depth no other SW lit effort has ever managed to accomplish. The finale, the unifying force is just amazing............. Luke fighting with two sabers against the YV badass.....sounds boring ... ???
BTW Siv, I suggest you step aside and make ME the EU forum badass ! :D
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Rends... I... I think I'm in love with you. :)
Originally posted by Boba Rhett
Rends... I... I think I'm in love with you. :)
BAH ! Rends, see what you've done ! you've bought all the njo haters out of their little sordid burrows... ET, Siv, Prime, now even Rhett has been enticed from his barn.... :p
a man your age should know better :p
SW lit EU needed a new direction, so many stories had been done on :
*clones of emperor, thrawn, clones of stormtroopers !
*mastermind warlords ... Zsinj, Thrawn
*Superweapons.... Darksaber, unused DS prototype, galaxy gun, sun crusher
*SIGH*
even the search for a new generation of jedi had started with the 'Jedi Academy' trilogy.... I just cant see how people can say "ugh ! its not SW !" Of course the njo is not freakin movie type SW, which is what things like the thrawn trilogy is a re-hash of... inevitably, it has to come back to the characters, NJO offered exploration of many great characters, ranging from Mara and Jaina, to Jacen and Vergere, not to mention Nom Anor.....In addtion all the old faves(Luke, Han, Leia etc) got a good run too as far as some examination of their characterisations... I really look forward to the post NJO books, because they will owe alot to the work that was done by the NJO authors...
mtfbwya
Originally posted by Astrotoy7
you've bought all the njo haters out of their little sordid burrows... ET, Siv, Prime, now even Rhett. :p
no respect I tell ya's, no respect. :xp:
Originally posted by ET Warrior
But MY complaints are worth five million
And I think the Yuuzhan Vong are stupid :xp:
he he he.... you is just askin for it with such comments.... :D
http://www.myimgs.com/data/astrotoy7/EU) whiner.jpg
mtfbwya
Originally posted by Astrotoy7
Thats liek someone saying, "yeah I saw ANH, and I hated it, I never will watch the other movies just because ANH was crap" and we all know they'll be missing out on ESB(which we all love), ROTJ and AOTC....
exactly, someone can watch ANH and hate it and we can say, 'but try watching the others you might change your mind' but they wont because if they hated the first one so much, why would they want to watch anymore of them.
if you didn't like lethal weapon, then chances are you wont like lethal weapon 2, 3 and 4 either... even though by the time its got to 4 its a total different film, its gone from a dark action film to a Rom Com.
if you went into a Chinese takeaway and ordered something you hadn't tried before and it made you sick, you wouldn't order it again, even if its from a different restaurant.
i could think of more analogies if you want :D
Originally posted by Sivy
...i could think of more analogies if you want :D
no thanks, but have an "EU Whiner" Limited Edition Card courtesy of astro.com :D (see above)
mtfbwya
So...have we all decided that the NJO sucks yet? :)
Originally posted by Prime
So...have we all decided that the NJO sucks yet? :) we better have, cuz I'm typing up the treaty...
No, NJO rules. You can use that treaty to wipe your buttocks. :D
Originally posted by StarWarsPhreak
You can use that treaty to wipe your buttocks. :D if you wish.
Originally posted by Prime
So...have we all decided that the NJO sucks yet? :)
Yes.
Originally posted by Prime
So...have we all decided that the NJO sucks yet? :)
no
Originally posted by Shok_Tinoktin
no
You don't count. And neither does Phreak or Astro. :D
Originally posted by ET Warrior
You don't count. And neither does Phreak or Astro. :D but I count right?
Originally posted by ET Warrior
You don't count. And neither does Phreak or Astro. :D
Aww, back to the EU forum for me!
Originally posted by InsaneSith
but I count right?
Of course you do :)
Originally posted by InsaneSith
but I count right?
oh yes....of course you do..... as njo hating and fans of images of young pre pubescent japanese females dressed as pussycats walk hand in hand in your and ETs brave new world.. :D
fools....
:p
mtfbwya
THEY'RE NOT PRE-PUBESCENT! they have breasts. :(
as someone once said to me, "grass on the field, play ball"
and they weren't dressed as cats, they were catgirls, they have cat ears and a tail as part of their body. kthxbai.
Originally posted by Astrotoy7
oung pre pubescent japanese females
2 words: tenjou tenge
:p
I read more and more about it and disliked it more and more. And on the contrary anime pwns. And I don't think only anime lovers dislike NJO. It's true the remnants aint good enough for a story anymore, but you can also..stop it. Rebels won, fini!
Had someone told me all about Yuuzhan Vong i'd say "star trek" and be surprised when i was told its supposed to be star wars
Originally posted by Astrotoy7
oh yes....of course you do..... as njo hating and fans of images of young pre pubescent japanese females dressed as pussycats walk hand in hand in your and ETs brave new world.. :D Young pre pubescent japanese females dressed as pussycats pwn NJO.
:D
hmm, seems to me like this thread brought out all the baddies...
NJO... well, NJO is well worth reading, i have to agree with some of you guys like Phreak and Shok, when you say the same plot would start to get old...
It seems like that is all star wars has been about since the time of TPM, i mean, all these uprisings and rotations of government and more uprisings and more rotations of government...
I was aching for something new... NJO brings that to us, it offers a new insight to what the SWG entails, rather than civil war, it is an intergalactic war. People unite more under one cause, that is what NJO seems to be, a galaxy(although split) who are all trying to save their ____(is that ok ET?)_____ against a common enemy...
I do have to say i enjoy the more "classic" time frame and early EU, but this is refreshing,
READ TRAITOR
yub yub, commander
Originally posted by ET Warrior
You don't count. And neither does Phreak or Astro. :D
At least the forums I moderate are actualy active. You'll do anything to get some action here :p
Originally posted by StarWarsPhreak
At least the forums I moderate are actualy active. you know he's a mod at the swamp too, right? :dozey:
I've never seen him there <.<
*beats Sith with a nightstick*
The fact stands, NJO rules. You'll never defeat me! The NJO will survive!
Originally posted by InsaneSith
you know he's a mod at the swamp too, right? :dozey: you don't count
my only problem with NJO was the death of chewie and the whole vong characters thing. They just screamed borg to me. They were just stupid characters :x
Originally posted by Lieutenant_kettch
you don't count nah, I'm pretty sure I do. :p
Originally posted by InsaneSith
my only problem with NJO was the death of chewie and the whole vong characters thing. They just screamed borg to me. They were just stupid characters :x
for many millenia, the SWG has been protected or governed by force-wielders, since they seemed all-powerful, but who will protect you when the force-users are nearly useless??? that's what makes for a good story
Originally posted by InsaneSith
you know he's a mod at the swamp too, right? :dozey:
swamp=veterans. Almost everyone knows what (not) to do there . A day without a lock here is rare :D
Well "force powers cant be used on them", does it work like the ysalamiri (they neutralise force effects in an environment) or only their body? Cause else you could just lift heavy objects and throw em or smash em with it....
Jedi got pwned by "normal" droids as well. There's no need for a new ARCH ENEMY that seems to be INDESTRUCTABLE
Chewie's death tore me up. I hated it.
But it did open up new avenues and possibilities for Han's character, and gave the whole series a darker feel.
EU is EU. Maybe some people like reading about the young Solo kids get out of scrapes at the Jedi Academy and have fun time with the other Junior Jedi Knights. Maybe you want to read about the repetitive and eventually banal New Republic politics. Maybe you want to read new, exciting, and surprising plot's involving a third Death-Star and the Death-Star's big LAZER gun. Hell, let's even throw in some Clones.
Read what you enjoy. If you enjoy reading recycled bull**** about all of our favorite characters, stay away from the NJO. If you want to read something different, try out the NJO.
Originally posted by InsaneSith
Originally posted by StarWarsPhreak
At least the forums I moderate are actualy active. You'll do anything to get some action here :p
you know he's a mod at the swamp too, right? :dozey:
:)
Anyways, the real point here is that eventually EU will probably get over the whole NJO thing and maybe some good stories will come out again :D
Originally posted by Alegis
Well "force powers cant be used on them", does it work like the ysalamiri (they neutralise force effects in an environment) or only their body? Cause else you could just lift heavy objects and throw em or smash em with it....
Jedi got pwned by "normal" droids as well. There's no need for a new ARCH ENEMY that seems to be INDESTRUCTABLE
Just shows what little people know when they refuse to read on. The Vong may not be able to be affected by the force directly, but Jedi can use the Force to affect the surroundings. For example, Tahiri used the force to increase the pressure (or something, I forget) in the room she was in and almost managed to kill an entire room of Vong.
And the Yuuzhan Vong are far from INDESTRUCTABLE .
If you read on, they start to get their asses kicked. I especially liked it when the Lusankya showed up. That was awesome.
Originally posted by ckcsaber
Chewie's death tore me up. I hated it.
But it did open up new avenues and possibilities for Han's character, and gave the whole series a darker feel.
He he he. Chewies death was far too melodramatic for my liking, it almost made me giggle....ie. teh almighty chewie could only be killed by droppin a planet on him :p (I know theres more to it than that but y'know what I mean). But yes, it gave an *excellent opportunity* to explore Han's character, and highlight what a true wanker he is(IMHO) ! Leia 's whole damn planet got destroyed and she perservered. Han loses his furry buddy and he goes all kooky and off into the wilderness like damn Jim Morrison. LEIA ROXXORRZZ(especially slave Leia) :D
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