ok so heres what ive been thinking for the last 10 mins, for ages weve all been turning out small mods, about one every couple of days, but theres hardly ever anything really major. I reckon if we all band together and concentrate our efforts on one big mod we could do something really good. I of course would only really be any gd at making textures and items but we have plenty of people experianced in editing modules files. I do know we cant make new modules (or so i think) and we cant make new models but surely we can use things already in game to make say a new planet,
yavin 4 might be possible the shadowlands of kashykk and a retextured version of the sith valley, (changing the sky box to trees like in kashykk could work!!!!!.
anyway what you all think, i say we make a mod team and look into making something really good
any ideas????
edit- in fact im going to experiment with the sky in the sith valley now, ill post some screenshots tomorrow.
i agree we should try something, i have been trying to make a really big mod alone, but i hve realized, ... I SUCK!!! through asking many questions, and lots of pracitce, i have gotten a little better, so i offer my patheic skills in texing and writing to this project
yea i can make new items and textures (not weapons and not NEW textures just reskins of existing textures at the moment) but this is a really good idea
I would gladly provide support to this project. The challenge is to coordinate our efforts in a unified direction.
great, good to see your interested tk102, of course it would need someone to run it (not me) and website etc.etc. but if anythin does get of the ground ever we can deal with that then
so any ideas to what kinda major mod we could do
That would be great to see everyone join together. I had an idea, and this IS coming from a retexture guy so it may sound foolish, why not make bounty hunter guild mod? Maybe put in a new npc somewhere with quests kind of like the rodian on manaan, you know pick up some extra cash or even use some of the modders unique items as rewards. Just an idea.
I don't know too much about modding but if you need some small weapons editing or something done i can do that for you. i would love to see something big happen. and as soon as i get some more time i will work on some weapons i have been trying to do.
well if we're going to get in a unified direction, well need to know what direction thatis, for instance, are we going for an extended ending mod, a total conversion, a complete sequel, or adding to the current story before the ending? and doom's right we need a leader, otherwise, everyone will end up getting pissed and going off in their own direction. we need a leader, who at the end of the day can say "yes this goes in, and no this doesn't" but before we go picking a leader, we need that direction thing squared away. i mean KOTOR is an RPG, not a FPS, any mod we do as a large group project, should stay cohesive and keep that flow, then when we do pick our leader that person , and all the rest of us, should stay commited to the end. well that's my thoughts, so now what?
ok lets not get ahead of ourselves hear, theres only 4 or 5 people who have said there even interested. I think something like a sequal would be too much, and im sure anybody could make some kind of full conversion simply by putting loads of mods together. Our best bet, in my opininion is to add something major to the story or an after ending mod.
I will Help anyway I can. The only thing is what is it that were doing.
It also has to be understood that whatever is decided on may take several weeks or months depending on how expansive the mod becomes. I have seen in the past people have huge ideas that never get completed. Oh they may get a little bit done but, inevetibly the particapants get bored and quit.
Don't get me wrong I would love to see a large mod come out. It's just that I strongly recomend starting out small then build from there, keep the project realistic. Once an initial cooperative project is release it will only serve to encourage us to work on a really big project that may take awhile to complete. It should also be noted that we All here do this in our free time, some people have more time than others.
So I'll help out.
i agree with T7 we need to start small and work our way up but we should try doing a "test" project to see what it is we can all contribute to the team nothing major at first just some simple things
i think the after ending mod is our best bet to, question though, light dark or both? and t7 is right whoever says "i'm in" needs to be in for the possible LONG road, having said that, i'm in. i can write story lines retexture and do "creative modding"
yep, im up for a long term thing, of course i could only really do writing scripts, retextures, new items etc. but atleest i would be doing something.
OK EVERYONE
First things first, if you want in and prepared for a long spell thing just reply 'yes' or 'no'
and we'll see how many people we have before starting anything at all.
As for me: DAM RITE YES
for a "test run" what about this idea :
a person walks up to you and auto initiates dialogue , s/he asks you to go fetch something from somewhere , you have three choices in dialogue , yes , yes for a price , and no , if you choose to get it you go off on the hunt
you find a couple of bad guys at the site of the object , they threaten you and then start to fight , once oyu have them down to say 50% health points they cut and run , you follow and they lead you in to another place , you then have to face off against them and a few more folks aswell
once you have dealt to them , ie killed all bar one (who has the min1 flag set0 he begs for his life and tells you someone else has the item your looking for
you get told where he is and go to find him , you find hima nd talk to him , three options , threaten him to hand it over (high persuade) , convince him to peacefully hand it over (high charisma check) or you can fight him for it
once you have the object you take it back and hand it to the person who requested it , then you get your reward
if you said yes : virbro blade and gun , both upgradeable less powerful then say the baragin weapons from yavin , maybe a saber crystal or two , eralam , rubet , ie low level ones
if you said yes but for a price you get two options , to hand it back and get your reward , or to sell it to a shop for money , hey maybe you think its worth more then your reward i dont know
reward for the yes but for a price you get the above , plus a weapon upgrade or two , scope or maybe energy projector
if you sell it you get a 1500 worth of credits
idea ? likes ? dislikes ? suggestions ?
i reckon its a great idea, but its the kinda thing 3 people could do in about a week i think, it woulnd ttake someone long to make all the items, and some people could script that in about a day, i know we should start small, but not quite that small. Well atleest someones suggestin something, cheers mate.
[i]Originally posted by Doom_Dealer
As for me: DAM RITE YES [/B]
my sentiments Xactly
:roleyess::nod: :thumbs1:
You know, if we were just able to add another spot on the star map to travel to, the mod itself would become highly scalable. You could start with just a couple areas. Then someone could later add quests on the planet etc. Each mod would be self-contained and yet could build on each other.
Of course the first part, trying to modify the starp map, is not trivial.
Another alternative I just thought of would be to add fork the Riddling Rakatan's dialog in the Mysterious Box that sends you elsewhere. (But how do you get back...)
I can't say how much time I could commit at this point but I do enjoy the R&D of this forum. It keeps bringing me back for more.
i think adding a new point on the star map for a new planet/station etc. would be great. Thats what i always thought would be good. If we could just get that as a basis we could then start the long term work of creating quests and new items etc. for those quests. But were getting ahead of ourselves again, if this is gona work we need: (yes i have been thinkin about this)
1.Structured Grouping of Modders (i.e Leader, texturers, scripters etc.etc.etc.)
2. A new forum --- JUST somewhere to post quick questions between the group of modders NOT general discussions (that all stays in here)
3. A website to keep everyone else updated
4. A group of people to get together to write some kinda story line for it (id quite like to be involved in this, ive got some pretty good ideas hint-planet Ordo-hint (mandalorians))
5. some other stuff i cant think off
ok heres my opinion on what doom said:
1. good idea that would let everyone in the group know whos reponsable for what
2. how about everyone get (or use) an instant messanger program like AIM or Y! and just post in this thread what times u'll be on (i know that not all of us ar in the same time zone or country but we can figure something out)
3. T7 could probaly use his site to give an update on our projects or maybe someone else in the group that has a site could do that just an idea
4. u could have a group that does nothing more than write storylines and each one could either share what they got with the entire group or they could put all their ideas into a single script and run it by the rest of us
5. i'll comment when their is something to comment about :)
edit: as for the 2nd one i have AIM and Y! messanger so i could relay messages to other ppl back and forth if so desired
how's this (ruff idea will put more thoguth into it later) after malak's defeat on star forge, bastilla walks in, some dialog is exchanged, similar to "well done master. with malak dead your reign as ruler of the sith will go unchallanged."
PC: 1. come we have bussiness to atend to
2. indeed, now we shall bear witness to the destruction of the republic.
3. the republic shall temble before our might.
cuts to scenne of republic ships being destroyed, then back to cerimony on koriban were bastilla makes her little speech. then to cutscene of army leaving star forge. then back to the deck where malak fell. looking out the window 9with the pose malak has as you first enter the room) Canderous approuches you, dialog simlar to "Amazing, in all the battles i've seen, i've never seen such an overwhelming force"
PC: 1.. Glad you approve
2. nor will you ever again, out might is unsupassed
Canderous first reply: I don't! with such as force, were is the challange of the battle?
second reply: Indeed, but with such might, where is the honor in our victory?
PC: 1: You dare question me mandalorian?
2: Perhaps you perfer siding with the republic, would that satisify your lust for challange? Of course I would hate to have to gut you where you stand.
Canderous I don't challange you revan, but there is no honor in this, but being with you all this time, i have come to realize, how meaning less my life was without the thrill of war, and destruction, as i said before, i'm your man revan, i'll follow you anywhere.
PC THOUGHTS:(Display by text) You sence unrest in canderous, and in your mind question his loyalty(camera cuts to his face, then back to yours) but for now you will let him live.
PC: 1. A wise desction, your loyalty will not go unrewarded
Canderous: What could you possible offer me ......."master"?
PC: 1. I am in need of an adirmal to command the fleet.
2. Command over all my armies, your skill in battle is unmatched.
3. Your life, and command of my fleet, as long as you sever me loyaly
Canderous first reply: i do hunger for the heat of battle, as you wish Master
second response: it would be an honor, i will serve you well Lord revan.
Third response: I will serve you Revan, but never forget this, i do not fear you ........"master"
Canderous walks away, passing several sith troppers, and a few dark jedi.
Then the pc can explore the star forge for awhile,(new item bins,ect. maybe even a bin with all your old weapons in it. it would be cool to start with nothing, then go to the bin and take only what u want, or maybe a replicator bin\regular bin with all kinds of sabres\sabre crystals to choose from) After the pc finds their way to ebon hawk, bastilla walks up and starts a dialog
This would be where she tells you about the new quest you could take, maybe something like
1: choose new master at sith academy (kor)
2: conqure mannan for it's new found kulto soruce (mann)
3: Silence a small rebellion on Tatione (tat)
and some other ideas to be sorted out later,
then you chose your party from troppers, dark jedi, bastillia, sith apperictes, and the droids,(at the moment not canderous) he's assuming command of the fleet and going out to battle
then you board the hawk and set out for your chosen task,
i got lots more of this story, but first let's see what everyone thinks
msn messenger would be useful
i really like seprithos idea, I get quite annoyed when in most games yoy play as the small underdogs against the mighty power, i wanna be the mighty power damit. Lets not go into on the script yet but i think thats a good starting point.
So to sum it up you play as the emperor of the galaxy and you fight against the Republic Rebellion. Sounds good for an initial idea.
--edit-- but just to clarify we only had a couple of people saying they might help out, dont flood the thread with loads of ideas or we'll just make a detailed storyline for a non exsistent mod.
I think I can help out. I have a fully functional website with plenty of space and running vbulletin. I turned it off to cyberspace a few weeks ago but I could easily get it up, running and updated in no time. If we were to need more space we could get it.
I also offer my services as a part of the story team and writer (been reading SW books for years.)
Let me know if this sounds good to you guys.
I'm no good at retextures or mods, but I consider myself a fairly good person to make ideas (Okay I'm saying it myself).
Yours, PrtyLizardJedi
Originally posted by Synthpsi
I think I can help out. I have a fully functional website with plenty of space and running vbulletin. I turned it off to cyberspace a few weeks ago but I could easily get it up, running and updated in no time. If we were to need more space we could get it.
I also offer my services as a part of the story team and writer (been reading SW books for years.)
Let me know if this sounds good to you guys.
Two togehter are better than one alone. Good ideas come in groups
Sounds like this is going to be a real blast, It'll be a pleasure working with you Lizard. Well, that is if we ever get this project off the ground.
By the way, followed the link to Kotor Fanfic, Good stuff.
yada yada I'm up for hosting it of course, just to make the offer official, anyhow you know how to get ahold of me, shoot me an email or drop me a PM I check them 3 times a day usually, at any rate, the site isn't going anywhere, and I'm not going anywhere, so onto the long haul I pack and trek.
ahem in short: YES :P
Originally posted by Synthpsi
Sounds like this is going to be a real blast, It'll be a pleasure working with you Lizard. Well, that is if we ever get this project off the ground.
By the way, followed the link to Kotor Fanfic, Good stuff.
CAn I get your e-mail adress. Then we can trade good storyline ideas for the mods
Originally posted by JedI_XtRmIsT
ok heres my opinion on what doom said:
1. good idea that would let everyone in the group know whos reponsable for what
2. how about everyone get (or use) an instant messanger program like AIM or Y! and just post in this thread what times u'll be on (i know that not all of us ar in the same time zone or country but we can figure something out)
3. T7 could probaly use his site to give an update on our projects or maybe someone else in the group that has a site could do that just an idea
4. u could have a group that does nothing more than write storylines and each one could either share what they got with the entire group or they could put all their ideas into a single script and run it by the rest of us
5. i'll comment when their is something to comment about :)
edit: as for the 2nd one i have AIM and Y! messanger so i could relay messages to other ppl back and forth if so desired
About time zones. I live in Finland. Time difference with America 9 hours
lol, im glad i decided to make this a topic, if youve got any ideas written up or brainstormed send em to me at --------- so i can have a look.
That's awesome guys! this is definitely a start to something big. I'm going to go ahead and suggest the new planet we could work on that i'm sure some of you have been thinking about: Mandalore!
P.S
Hehe, my site will be up on sunday if all goes well, and we can move the discussion there.
Kind of interesting ...
There are entries in the dialog.tlk file for the following planets:
Corellia (40591)
Yavin VII (40592)
Alderaan (40593)
Coruscant (40594)
and
Sleheyron City (37614)
These may be what Bioware had in mind for the extra planets.
Also interesting: this entry describing a planet, possibly Coruscant or Taris:
Terrain: worldwide cityscape
Native Species: mixed, Human majority
Docking: docking not available (38686)
We of course are not limited to these descriptions. The planetary.2da
shows that entries were set aside for the extra planets' Names and Descriptions. If a mod were to come out, I could write up a simple "patch" that would enter the chosen name and description into dialog.tlk at the approriate slot.
alright people let's nail it down, we going for it or not? if so , it's time to assign some responsiblity(opinuion). and it's is probly a good idea for multi writers, but someone has to be the lead writer, otherwise, the story will show it wasn't cohisevly constucted, the pooling of ideas is great, but someone will need to "cut the fat",the new planet thing would work great, that could be a where a turning point in the story takes place, or the climax. I know we still have alot of research to do, but we can't effectivly do that without knowing exactly what we're going for, in short i think it's time to nominate writers to pool ideas\storylines, and a lead writer to take those and give us a ruff draft script, any one else have a thought?
It has to be done. We have the people, passion, talent and recent brealthroughs in decoding the "KOTOR Genome" to add to our arsenal. I seriously think we could do something great here. It's been building up to this for some time, and even a year from now when everybody has the KOTOR equivalent of the NWN aurora toolset everybody is going to say that those brave and crazy mofos over at the holowan labs did it first.
As for the lead writer position...Uh, seeing as we don't even have a project leader yet......
but think everyone, before we can start working on this, we MUST know what we're working for, we need a direction, an idea to shoot for, a script is the best way to know what we have to do, what we have to research, and what we need to work on, it doesn't have to be very detailed, just a ruff first run, if no-one wants to write it, i will, we just need to pool our ideas, combine them, and post for the rest of the team to read, give fesability rating, and vote on. the reason i say we need a lead writer, is beacuse at the end of the day, everyone's every idea can't go into one cohisive story.
Originally posted by Synthpsi
It has to be done. We have the people, passion, talent and recent brealthroughs in decoding the "KOTOR Genome" to add to our arsenal. I seriously think we could do something great here. It's been building up to this for some time, and even a year from now when everybody has the KOTOR equivalent of the NWN aurora toolset everybody is going to say that those brave and crazy mofos over at the holowan labs did it first.
As for the lead writer position...Uh, seeing as we don't even have a project leader yet......
We need a better place to discuss than this forum. If we stay here, maybe we should mark the modteam-related posts like this:
kmt: Blбh blah blah blah etc. etc. etc.
K.M.T:Kotor Modding Team ^__^ if you don't mind
Holowan Laboratories: Special Projects Division!!
The site is gonna be ready sometime tomorrow, I already finished it but it says it was going to take 2 days to update the DNS servers or something like that. We'll have our own fully tricked out project forum then.
Originally posted by Synthpsi
Holowan Laboratories: Special Projects Division!!
The site is gonna be ready sometime tomorrow, I already finished it but it says it was going to take 2 days to update the DNS servers or something like that. We'll have our own fully tricked out project forum then.
GREEEAT!
Originally posted by Synthpsi
Holowan Laboratories: Special Projects Division!!
The site is gonna be ready sometime tomorrow, I already finished it but it says it was going to take 2 days to update the DNS servers or something like that. We'll have our own fully tricked out project forum then.
Hey, we need some kinda list there with e-mail adresses and positions eg.
JediXtrimist: retexturer, kg@khk.fi
Doom_Dealer: script writer fdhgfdh@jhklh.net
y'know
good idea
my email is jedi_xtrmist@yahoo.com
and i can retexture and create new items
prtyjedi@mbnet.fi story co-creator (synthpsi does them too, he's the other co-writer)
P.S: Someone maybe noticed my commercial about us ^___^
I we could add a list of members, their jobs and email adresses at the page: Example
Member Name Job E-mail Adress
JediXtrimst Retexturer jedi_xtrmist@yahoo.com
PrtyLizardJedi story co-writer prtyjedi@mbnet.fi
I'll make a real list soon. The I'll post it here and update it every now and then
O.K I made a list, correct me if wrong
Member Name Job E-Mail
Doom_Dealer Item Maker /Script Writer jackhanson121@msn.com
Seprithro Retexturer Seprithro@aol.com
Jedi_Xtrmist Retexturer/ items jedi_xtrmist@yahoo.com
tk102 modder
WhiteStripes27 weapon editor
T7nowhere undefined t7nowhere@hotmail.com
Synthpsi co-writer Synthpsi@tampabay.rr.com
PrtyLizard Jedi co-writer prtyjedi@mbnet.fi
Uru hoster
Svцsh New Item/Retexturer
Sorry, the list is abit scrambled
*****Doom Dealer - Item Maker, Script Writer
p.s everyone please vote in this post:
http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=127046)
heres T7's email
t7nowhere@hotmail.com
and Seprithro's
Seprithro@aol.com
those are the only two pples emails i have at the moment had uru's in a pm but foolish me deleted it
p.s. check out my site its being worked on so i don't many mods up on it yet but i'm workin on that now
JX's KotOR mods (
http://www.freewebs.com/jedi_xtrmist/)
Synthpsi, Co-Writer: Synthpsi@tampabay.rr.com
i would like in on writing it to you got my mail adress
this isn't going anywhere if we don't get started, so let's nominate
a project leader
a lead writer
a couple of people to retexutre
after that we can get this thing off the ground i see more and ore post popping up about this project, but we're not doing anything yet, people PLEASE, let's get some leadership structure, then we can assign task, and get things done
count me in
For new items and retextures
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